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Title: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 01, 2015, 01:32:45 PM
Thought I'd share a WIP

These took a painfully long time but I'm quite pleased with them. Here I have attempted to bring these minis from the late 15c to early 16c by sculpting skirted coats typical of the period.

They will eventually be a mixed unit of French missile foot.

Any more ideas of what I could do to Tudorise these plastics?

Thanks

Stuart
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on February 01, 2015, 02:13:16 PM
Great work with the Green Stuff Stuart.

Have you ever toyed with the GW 'Empire' heads? They are a whisker too large for the Perry plastics - but not so that you'd notice unless you were really looking to pick holes.
Mason kindly sent me a few, and I've used some of them - they include quite a wide selection of Tudor-ish / landsknecht style flat hats, with and without adornment... For instance:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/15/577_26_10_13_4_08_00.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/14/577_23_09_13_12_13_10.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/10/577_12_06_12_10_46_59_2.jpg)

Not sure how easy these are to get hold of, but I guess an appeal for spares here on LAF might yield a few donations to further youur project  :)

Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Cubs on February 01, 2015, 02:23:41 PM
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: OSHIROmodels on February 01, 2015, 03:34:40 PM
Excellent  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: pocoloco on February 01, 2015, 03:38:12 PM
Superb GS work, your effort has paid off handsomely.

Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: rumacara on February 01, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
Excelent work Stuart. :-* :-*
Love those conversions.

Like Captain Blood says if you need some empire heads from GW i dont mind to send some.
The ones i have are from the militia box if they are of any use. Just pm me if you want.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: doowopapocalypse on February 01, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
Failing boardmembers, bitzbox.co.uk might be a help
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: aircav on February 01, 2015, 05:29:28 PM
Brilliant stuff  8)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Bugsda on February 01, 2015, 06:26:10 PM
Excellent work  8)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 01, 2015, 07:26:55 PM
Thanks Captain for the cloth caps notion and Rumacara for the offer, i'm pressing on with the sculpting and modifying some of the plastics heads, this is addictive  :D
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 01, 2015, 08:07:19 PM
I've got to say that these are really excellent conversions Stuart!!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

The first mini on the right elucidates your technique nicely too which is always useful  8)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Phil Portway on February 01, 2015, 11:16:47 PM
If only I had the patience. Lovely conversions. They will look the biz when finished
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 09, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
Here's batch 2 and a painted figure from batch 1.

If you're interested in the sculpting process here it is step by step;

http://pinterest.com/stum_23/green-stuff-sculpting/ (http://pinterest.com/stum_23/green-stuff-sculpting/)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on February 09, 2015, 01:17:41 PM
Oooh very tasty Stuart. Obviosuly you don't need those GW Empire hats, because your own from Green Stuff look the absolute mutt's nuts!  :-*
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: SaxonBlackwater on February 09, 2015, 02:55:26 PM
Here's batch 2 and a painted figure from batch 1.

If you're interested in the sculpting process here it is step by step;

http://pinterest.com/stum_23/green-stuff-sculpting/ (http://pinterest.com/stum_23/green-stuff-sculpting/)

That painted model looks amazing, love the pose as well, great job.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Jeff965 on February 09, 2015, 03:13:30 PM
Lovely work, nice natural poses, the clothing hangs just right and the painted sample is stunning.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Gangleri on February 09, 2015, 04:26:56 PM
Oooh very tasty Stuart. Obviosuly you don't need those GW Empire hats, because your own from Green Stuff look the absolute mutt's nuts!  :-*

Quite so.  I love the way the brims bend around the faces. And the hats look like they've been crammed on tightly so they don't slip off in the heat of the action.  Lovely as always.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 10, 2015, 08:41:17 AM
Here's batch 2 and a painted figure from batch 1.

If you're interested in the sculpting process here it is step by step;

http://pinterest.com/stum_23/green-stuff-sculpting/ (http://pinterest.com/stum_23/green-stuff-sculpting/)

Thanks Stuart- that's really nice of you do show us your technique.... no excuses for me not to have a go now!

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 10, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
No problem Darrell, give it a go and keep going, I learned a few tricks along the way and it felt like I got a little bit better with each one I generally had 3 on the go so you don't waste any green stuff.

The last chap (below) I'm particularly pleased with, he has a Wolf Hall look about him, I think I'll paint him in black.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: rumacara on February 10, 2015, 10:32:15 AM
Stuart, you are getting better with that green stuff.
Keep it coming.
Lovelly transformations.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: von Lucky on February 10, 2015, 10:47:34 AM
Lovely stuff - there's an added depth to these I love.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 10, 2015, 11:51:52 AM
No problem Darrell, give it a go and keep going, I learned a few tricks along the way and it felt like I got a little bit better with each one I generally had 3 on the go so you don't waste any green stuff.

The last chap (below) I'm particularly pleased with, he has a Wolf Hall look about him, I think I'll paint him in black.

Amazing stuff. I've been trying to put aside an hour a day to do some sort of sculpting/converting but time sometimes slips away.......

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on February 10, 2015, 08:34:55 PM
Yes, he's very 'Wolf Hall' Stuart. Lovely converting.

I've been trying to put aside an hour a day to do some sort of sculpting/converting but time sometimes slips away.......

Ah, all that time on internet forums like this one, Darrell...  They are a thief of time ;)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 11, 2015, 09:35:26 AM
Yes, he's very 'Wolf Hall' Stuart. Lovely converting.

Ah, all that time on internet forums like this one, Darrell...  They are a thief of time ;)

Ditto  ;) :D

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 13, 2015, 09:47:47 PM
An update and request;

I've got my mitts on some Perry plastic Ansar as the bare heads are perfect for sculpting cloth caps, the bodies great as a starting point for the coat and I can sculpt the bear paw oxmuhle shoes. That and the mercenary and WOTR arms are a perfect fit.

I'm a happy bunny  :D

Do you know of any other plastics with bare heads or almost bare bodies?

Cue giggles and chortles for my need for naked bodies !

Thanks again

Stuart
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2015, 06:02:37 AM
An update and request;

I've got my mitts on some Perry plastic Ansar as the bare heads are perfect for sculpting cloth caps, the bodies great as a starting point for the coat and I can sculpt the bear paw oxmuhle shoes. That and the mercenary and WOTR arms are a perfect fit.

I'm a happy bunny  :D

You don't happen to live near Durham do you? I'm more than happy to take lessons and I'm not kidding!!??

Do you know of any other plastics with bare heads or almost bare bodies?

The first ACW Infantry sets for sure. There will almost certainly be others but I only bought the ACW sets to see what the quality was like- from then on, I just bought what I need.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 14, 2015, 08:12:05 AM
Thanks Darrell, I shall check those out .

Would you believe my hometown is Bishop Auckland  :o

Unfortunately I now live in South Wales  :-I
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2015, 10:04:52 AM
Thanks Darrell, I shall check those out .

Would you believe my hometown is Bishop Auckland  :o

Unfortunately I now live in South Wales  :-I

Doh!!  :'(

So near yet so far  lol

Next time you're up here, give me a shout and we'll do putty  ;) :)

Darrell
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 14, 2015, 11:12:11 AM
ha, it's good but it's not right !
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2015, 11:17:42 AM
ha, it's good but it's not right !

 lol lol lol

Darrell
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 14, 2015, 01:27:22 PM
Ta daa!
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Bugsda on February 14, 2015, 01:33:17 PM
Bravo!  :-*
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2015, 01:42:03 PM
Stunning! Stunning! Stunning!

 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: tancrede on February 14, 2015, 02:00:52 PM
Very nice work.
Conversions look cool, but the painted minis are beautiful !
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: painterman on February 14, 2015, 03:58:33 PM
Brilliant - those have made my Valentine's day - I love 'em!!!!
XXX
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 14, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
Project 2 is underway.

To add some variety to the unit here's the start of a figure in doublet and hose. The mini is the running torso in brigandine.

The sleeves will be difficult I think but going good so far, this was done in one stage so also quicker than the last lot to do.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Ray Earle on February 14, 2015, 06:05:53 PM
Brilliant.  :D Lovely putty work along with top drawer painting. What's not to like?  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2015, 07:06:23 PM
Stuart,

Do you use clayshapers for smoothing the putty out as well as metal tools?

Darrell.

Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Mo! on February 14, 2015, 07:07:25 PM
wow beautifull!!

Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: SaxonBlackwater on February 14, 2015, 07:35:50 PM
Absolutely stunning!
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 14, 2015, 07:40:59 PM
Darrell

This is the set I have though for about 90% of the work I use the tool shown below

Stuart
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: painterman on February 14, 2015, 07:42:21 PM
Nice sculpting of the codpiece!
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 14, 2015, 07:55:25 PM
Well it is Valentine's day  :D
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Steel fist on February 14, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Fantastic work stuart, won't be long now before your sculpting whole minis!
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 14, 2015, 09:20:18 PM
Darrell

This is the set I have though for about 90% of the work I use the tool shown below

Stuart

I've got every one of those implements too  :D.

I tend to use Procreate as i feel that it's not as tacky as GS. Clayshapers work better with the former I find. That's why I asked really, to find out if you used anything other then metal sculpting tools to get a smooth finish.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: von Lucky on February 14, 2015, 09:50:21 PM
Yeah, that is very nice sculpting and painting. You should deservingly be proud.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: NurgleHH on February 14, 2015, 10:21:59 PM
Will be a pleasure to see your work in flesh. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Admiral Benbow on February 15, 2015, 12:32:56 AM
Fantastic work!  :-*
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Monty on February 16, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Really stunning!  :o
Can't wait to see more of your work.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Sirolf on February 17, 2015, 04:25:17 PM
Hey Stuart, have you looked into TAG italian crossbowmen? They look very much like the ones you`re sculpting.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 17, 2015, 06:51:59 PM
Yes indeed, they're a bit slender for my liking though at the rate i'm going it would save a lot of time !
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 17, 2015, 07:48:06 PM
Though the effort is worth it  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 17, 2015, 07:51:29 PM
Fantastic work Stuart!! I love him.....  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Is that one of Simon's 'Burgundian feathers' in his cap?

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 17, 2015, 07:55:57 PM
Cheers Darrell, no it's taken from one of the Swiss heads
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 17, 2015, 08:06:09 PM
Cheers Darrell, no it's taken from one of the Swiss heads

Ah.... Still, marvelous sculpting!!  :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: painterman on February 17, 2015, 08:09:19 PM
Brilliant - that figure is a great 'feather in your cap' Stuart  lol

Fantastic sculpting - you're quickly getting more proficient and confident - adding the points and undershirt showing through - wonderful touches!
You don't need to buy any more Perrys now do you? - just make your own figures!!
Cheers
Simon.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Arthur on February 17, 2015, 08:38:28 PM
My, they're all a bit good, aren't they ?  8)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on February 17, 2015, 09:00:10 PM
Though the effort is worth it  :)

I would say so Stuart.

adding the points and undershirt showing through - wonderful touches!
You don't need to buy any more Perrys now do you? - just make your own figures!!

Just what I was thinking...  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Sirolf on February 19, 2015, 04:41:02 AM
Yes the results are well worth it!! I personall find the TAG to mix pretty well with the Perrys, especially the crossbowmen and handgunners with their heavy clothing that makes them bulkier..

But again, there's nothing like sculpting them exactly to your taste!
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on February 21, 2015, 06:27:36 PM
I coloured him in  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: dodge on February 21, 2015, 06:36:25 PM
I really like what you have done.

Great conversions.

 :D

Dodge
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on February 21, 2015, 09:34:58 PM
Excellent Stuart - great face and headgear in particular.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Elbows on February 21, 2015, 11:01:24 PM
Everything in this thread is friggin' top quality...damn.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on February 22, 2015, 12:39:38 AM
Top drawer Stuart  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Metternich on February 22, 2015, 03:36:01 AM
Stuart, it is amazing how both your conversions and painting fully capture the time period.  You are "a Renaissance man" indeed.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Totleben on February 22, 2015, 07:25:36 AM
Like oil painings from the era.  :-*
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Steel fist on February 22, 2015, 12:49:01 PM
Top notch, you acually use the same tool that I sculpt with, I think it's one of the best ones, great to see you becoming more and more confident!
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: painterman on February 22, 2015, 01:53:56 PM
Wunderbar !!
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on March 03, 2015, 12:33:16 PM
Possibly my best yet.

The body, arms and head are from the Perry plastic ansar tribesman box. The arm carrying a rifle was cut and swapped with an arquebus.

These are barefoot so easy to add the distinctive oxmuhle shoes. Some of the heads in the box are bareheaded so fairly easy to add hair and then a square cloth cap. 3 evenings of sculpting and drying for a nice early 1500's french arquebusier  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: von Lucky on March 03, 2015, 12:57:53 PM
Very nice converting.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on March 03, 2015, 12:59:34 PM
Possibly my best yet.

Modest too  lol

I jest.
You are getting dead good at this, and have every reason to be pleased with your handiwork Stuart  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: rumacara on March 03, 2015, 01:03:48 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
Keep it coming Stuart.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on March 03, 2015, 01:11:59 PM
 lol thanks Richard I'm very smug with him !

I still need to file the shoes a bit as they look a bit like my nan's slippers.

I bought one Ansar sprue on eBay and for heads and a few extra arms which work seamlessly with the other medieval sets they're worth it.

For sculpting conversions like this one there's 4 useable bodies I reckon. All in this running pose but running under fire from a martini rifle or a cloth yard arrow it still works.

Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on March 03, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
lol thanks Richard I'm very smug with him !

You should be!!  :-* :-* :-*

That is a real piece of sculpting Stuart!!

Quote
I still need to file the shoes a bit as they look a bit like my nan's slippers.

I bought one Ansar sprue on eBay and for heads and a few extra arms which work seamlessly with the other medieval sets they're worth it.

For sculpting conversions like this one there's 4 useable bodies I reckon. All in this running pose but running under fire from a martini rifle or a cloth yard arrow it still works.



I wait with baited breath! Keep going!!!  :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Jagannath on March 03, 2015, 01:57:56 PM
He's brilliant - looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: NurgleHH on March 03, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
lol thanks Richard I'm very smug with him !

I still need to file the shoes a bit as they look a bit like my nan's slippers.

I bought one Ansar sprue on eBay and for heads and a few extra arms which work seamlessly with the other medieval sets they're worth it.

For sculpting conversions like this one there's 4 useable bodies I reckon. All in this running pose but running under fire from a martini rifle or a cloth yard arrow it still works.
Ok Stuart Perry, you are the long lost brother of Michael and Alan. Be honest to us. Where have you been all the time? Or is it the Milli Vanilli-Effect? You do the stuff for them????
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: painterman on March 03, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Stuart
Ansar tribesman to French 16th Century arquebusier in 3 shifts - now you're just showing off!
This really must stop now, or you'll be able to charge fees....
  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Stuart on March 14, 2015, 11:22:43 AM
Another one done, Now he's coloured in it seems there's an italian influence though as there are very few depictions of French infantry in the early 1500's my approach is to mix italian and tudor influences with a bit if german, I'm guessing that's a reasonable mix. I like him anyways, the main thing is he looks nothing like a Sudanese Ansar tribesman !
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Gangleri on March 14, 2015, 05:26:46 PM
Stunning!  T he paint-job accentuates the quality of the sculpting. I think my favorite part is the neckline of the shirt, actually.  It's the kind of easily overlooked detail that doesn't stand out by itself but really makes a figure look the part. 
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: levied troop on March 14, 2015, 06:19:10 PM
Brilliant conversion  :o and I love your painting style, looking at the group photo shots on your blog is like looking at a tapestry.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Arlequín on March 14, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
I actually prefer these to TAG's Valois French, which themselves are a fine set of figures, albeit too late for my tastes. If I didn't know, I would call BS if someone suggested these were made from the Perry Ansar figures.

I raise my bonnet to you sir!  :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on March 14, 2015, 10:30:06 PM
Lovely job Stuart. Great work on the face, never mind everything else.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Aaron on March 14, 2015, 10:40:41 PM
Just amazing work from start to finish! :-*
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Metternich on March 15, 2015, 02:13:16 AM
Once again, he actually looks like a figure in a period painting - even your painting style is period !  You own the 16th centuury !
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: pocoloco on March 15, 2015, 08:24:16 AM
Sublime result, both in conversion and painting.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 15, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
Very well done indeed  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Lt. Hazel on March 15, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
I completly missed this thread! You are a talented fella Stuart, you know how to push the putty and how to colour your scuplts. Bravo!
Jan
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: tancrede on March 17, 2015, 07:51:45 AM
As always, very nice sculpts, and cool painting.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: warburton on March 19, 2015, 04:08:16 AM
Lovely work :)
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: Atheling on March 19, 2015, 05:28:23 AM
If I didn't know, I would call BS if someone suggested these were made from the Perry Ansar figures.

I raise my bonnet to you sir!  :)

Consider my bonnet raised too. These are pretty much sculpts and not conversions as you have used the Ansar as dollies. I'm more than highly impressed! You've also given my the impetus to start doing an hour or two of pushing putty a day!

Darrell.
Title: Re: Perry plastics conversions
Post by: janner on March 20, 2015, 07:21:03 AM
Inspiring work as always  :)