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Title: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update New sections painted 10th March
Post by: 6milPhil on February 24, 2015, 01:04:26 PM
Decided to have a bash at making road sections for the larger scales which look more like the cobblestone roads I've seen, typically the ones available seem just too regular, which is fine for the elitist streets of Paris but not quite perfect for the parambulation of peasants.

Like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/9yk3X9x.jpg)

So I've cut the basic shapes and I'm trying to keep them as thin as possible, so they can be used on boards as well as tabletops, finished they should be about 3mm thick. The biggest straight is 220mm long and 100mm wide, the length being defined by being able to comfortably fit in my vacuum chamber, and obviously the mould has to be larger.
(http://i.imgur.com/Co1UOc1.jpg)

Then I've started on the stones. I've cut sheet plastic into strips, mainly 2mm wide stone, but also a few 5mm and some 8mm, which with an average gap of 1mm between them works out fine, they're also in three different thicknesses to give variety. I've then carved them so each one is different... this is the exciting step.  ::)
(http://i.imgur.com/OcXrM8c.jpg)

It's so exciting that taking another photo when you're halfway is a momentous event.
(http://i.imgur.com/F9bCSPz.jpg)

Then the laying begins. Having drawn a few lines on the base to keep them in line and starting in a number of places to make sure the spacing and the relative straightness is maintained.
(http://i.imgur.com/WkuAfSz.jpg)

Of course my striving for thiness was a fool's errand and in the morning this had warped from end to end by about 20 degrees, and bowed too. So I'm thickening the base, so they'll be around 4.5-5mm thick and mounting them on mould box base boards, plastic atop 5mm MDF, to remove any warpage... oh the joy.  ;)

Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 24, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
Oh wow! I'm afraid madness lies at the end of that road.

But I am sure it will look brilliant once you have completed it.
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: Duke Donald on February 24, 2015, 01:26:20 PM
This is dedication!

However, I would suggest adding yet another tedious step to the process. I would give some texture to the cobblestone by "crushing them" with an uneven stone. I did this for the tiles in my build in the "Build Something Contest 2015" and it really improved them.
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/Duke_Donald/2015-02-21074732_zps91da81bf.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: 6milPhil on February 24, 2015, 02:46:22 PM
Oh wow! I'm afraid madness lies at the end of that road.

But I am sure it will look brilliant once you have completed it.

Very likely and thanks.

However, I would suggest adding yet another tedious step to the process. I would give some texture to the cobblestone by "crushing them" with an uneven stone.

I've gone for whittling and different thicknesses so should have a similar effect, although hitting it would be a good thing at some points.

Increased the thickness and mounted it on the mould box bas, so on we go...
(http://i.imgur.com/E7Yewde.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: Dr. Zombie on February 24, 2015, 04:38:57 PM
Hitting it with at rock might turn out to be therapeutical to stave of the gluing tiny bits induced insanity.

When you get to casting them I might be interested in some.
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: FramFramson on February 24, 2015, 05:32:42 PM
One solution I saw recently to this problem is a thick, deeply-creased leather, with very clear and discrete forms. Though to find, but works well if you can get ahold of some.
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: SotF on February 25, 2015, 12:56:56 AM
One solution I saw recently to this problem is a thick, deeply-creased leather, with very clear and discrete forms. Though to find, but works well if you can get ahold of some.
Actually, skip normal leather if you want to go this route. Look for imitation alligator or crocodile...or even for the texture that's used for basketballs.

Attach it to a wood base if you want to mold it, but it actually works rather well attached straight down and painted up.
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: 6milPhil on February 25, 2015, 01:11:17 AM
Hitting it with at rock might turn out to be therapeutical to stave of the gluing tiny bits induced insanity.


Exactly, now where's my  hammer?   lol

Et voila!
(http://i.imgur.com/51hgkKY.jpg)

...and before anyone asks...
(http://i.imgur.com/bwgaruD.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: 6milPhil on February 25, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Onto the short straight...
(http://i.imgur.com/9FqrpuI.jpg)

...the 45 degree curve, now originally I cut two of these to limit repetition and then got to thinking one would be enough... I imagine I'll repent later.
(http://i.imgur.com/XfXEhst.jpg)

... and the Y-Junction
(http://i.imgur.com/ntJx6n0.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: 6mmfan on February 25, 2015, 06:04:05 PM
Follow the yellow brick road....
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: mcfonz on February 25, 2015, 07:27:12 PM
Great stuff Phil. A real test of patience I can imagine. Well worth the end result though. Plenty of uses those will have!
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm
Post by: 6milPhil on February 26, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Thanks mate.

Finished them, sealed them with some paint, also makes for a better picture...
(http://i.imgur.com/DIwjYDs.jpg)

Now to box them for rubber...
(http://i.imgur.com/l32vJru.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: Andym on February 26, 2015, 10:37:34 AM
With all respect.....you're mental!! o_o o_o o_o

The separate stone, they don't look like squared edges! Are you trimming each single stone to make it more realistic? WOW!
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: 6milPhil on February 26, 2015, 11:26:26 AM
Yep every stone is roughly bevelled around the edges and a bit of hacking on top too, some have additional detail, esp. the larger ones. It's the only way to make them look worn over centuries. ;)

It'll show up better when painted.    :)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: Captain Blood on February 26, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
Superb Phil.
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: 6milPhil on February 26, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
Ta.

Boxed for the rubber...
(http://i.imgur.com/Yyb6nA1.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: gamer Mac on February 26, 2015, 04:25:52 PM
They look great :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: 6milPhil on March 05, 2015, 12:06:14 AM
Thanks, I'm painting them at the moment and then have a couple more pieces to make for variety.
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: Remgain on March 05, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Great!!

I'll surely get some.

Marco
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update 26th Feb.
Post by: 6milPhil on March 05, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
...and finally with some paint on them...


and a short straight varient ounderway with a manhole cover...

(http://i.imgur.com/xKEzjgy.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update Painted, 5th March
Post by: mcfonz on March 05, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
 :o :-*

Those are great Phil! I can see so many uses for them from medieval through to modern . . . brilliant paint on them as well!
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update Painted, 5th March
Post by: 6milPhil on March 05, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
Thanks mate. I did faff around painting them but sussed it in the end.  ;)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update Painted, 5th March
Post by: Mason on March 05, 2015, 04:57:43 PM
They have come out brilliantly, Phil.
 :-* :-* :-*

(Although I do have to concur with Andy: You are a mad bugger! :D).

Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update Painted, 5th March
Post by: 6milPhil on March 05, 2015, 07:10:47 PM
Thanks.

If I could have found something already like this I'd have gone for that believe me, but I couldn't.  ::)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update Painted, 5th March
Post by: 6milPhil on March 07, 2015, 05:24:03 PM
Another curved section, I really wanted to avoid repititions in bends, so with two pieces they can be alternated.

(http://i.imgur.com/0QpX3wf.jpg)

A short straight with a manhole cover.

(http://i.imgur.com/qfdmdAN.jpg)

If anyone's interested in some please PM me, discount for you Lovely LAFers of course.  ;)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update two more sections 7th March
Post by: Remgain on March 08, 2015, 10:56:42 PM
PM sent.

Marco
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update two more sections 7th March
Post by: 6milPhil on March 09, 2015, 09:02:54 AM
PMs answered.

Someone wanted to know about the gaps between sections so while I wait for paint to dry and resin to set I took a photo against white paper of two pieces just pciked up and put next to each other...

(http://i.imgur.com/ZPSTSkS.jpg)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update two more sections 7th March
Post by: Silent Invader on March 09, 2015, 09:33:01 AM
An excellent job Phil  8)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update two more sections 7th March
Post by: Centaur_Seducer on March 09, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
Good job as ever Phil!
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update two more sections 7th March
Post by: Sangennaru on March 10, 2015, 08:56:38 AM
Good job! The stones are rather flat and shiny, but it's good if they are paired with the GW scenery, that have similar effects for the stones! :)
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update two more sections 7th March
Post by: 6milPhil on March 10, 2015, 12:27:25 PM
Thanks guys, of course any similarity to GW products is coincidental.

Painted the two new sections:
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update New sections painted 10th March
Post by: Eric the Shed on March 12, 2015, 11:32:22 AM
These are fantastic...I assume we are looking at the resin versions not the masters?
Title: Re: Normandy Cobblestone Roads in 20/28mm Update New sections painted 10th March
Post by: 6milPhil on March 12, 2015, 01:23:23 PM
Yes these are casts. I've been experimenting with casting resin very thinly, and sussed it it's just a long winded process.