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Title: Generic medieval army, for historical and fantasy games...
Post by: tancrede on March 03, 2015, 08:27:13 AM
hi everybody,

After showing my Saxons for SAGA and my Mexican gang for Dead Man's Hand, I will present you my medieval army.

Basically, it was a bretonnian army for Warhammer Battle.
But I have tons of old minis from the 80s and the 90s, and they do not really have a fantasy look, mainly due to the work of the Perry brothers.

So I will certainly use lots of those minis for Lion Rampant or Hail Caesar games.

That's why I've decided to post pics in this section instead of the fantasy section.


First, just some minis painted some months ago. Thanks to the Perry brothers for their fantastic minis !


- some foot knights :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/360175chevalierspied.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/722258chevalierspied1.jpg)



- bretonnian sorceress / damsel :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/251459DSC01880.jpg)



- a knight with some of his men-at-arms. This unit is the one currently on my painting desk (17 MAA done, 12 more to do) :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/767427DSC04070.jpg)


Stay tunned as I have tons of minis for this collection, both painted (but I still need to update the basing) and to paint.
And I'll certainly add some more minis from historical ranges (Perry and Claymore Castings are really temptings, but some others too...) in the coming months.

And as always, you'll find more pics on my blog...


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Post by: Paul on March 03, 2015, 08:44:00 AM
 :-* :-* :-* Eye candy indeed!!!!  :-* :-*
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Post by: Modhail on March 03, 2015, 08:56:15 AM
 :o Amazing paintjobs on some lovely miniatures!  :-*
I love how clean and crisp your heraldry painting is.
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Post by: le bon roi rene on March 03, 2015, 04:50:41 PM
I rather like the floral element you used in your flocking. Can I ask what it is?

Cheers,
Fred :)
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Post by: von Lucky on March 03, 2015, 08:35:51 PM
Lovely painting - what a great start to the day.
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Post by: Michi on March 03, 2015, 08:51:43 PM
The heraldry is excellent as is the basing and everything else! True eye candy indeed!!!
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Post by: A Lot of Gaul on March 03, 2015, 09:19:16 PM
That is some very nice painting and basing!  :)

Cheers,
Scott
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Post by: Tactalvanic on March 04, 2015, 08:52:26 AM
Great work on some  fine miniatures

Thanks for sharing  :)
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Post by: tancrede on March 04, 2015, 09:07:56 AM
Thanks for comments, guys !
XIIht/XVth century armies (and Bretonnia) are my favorite period of history for ages.
And it's a great pleasure for me to paint minis for this period.

I rather like the floral element you used in your flocking. Can I ask what it is?

Cheers,
Fred :)

I use variety of tuft :
- little rocks and grass tufts come from a french online shop (http://www.minisocles-store.fr/ (http://www.minisocles-store.fr/))
- flowers are Silflor and come from a US online shop (http://www.sceneryexpress.com/ (http://www.sceneryexpress.com/))
- and some GF9 "summer clump foliage mix".


I have a little question for you, guys. I have a unit of bretonnian squires to paint and I'm undecided on the color scheme to keep an historical feeling on them (even if I use the GW minis for Robin Hood and his Merry Men).

Just to be clear : the following minis were not painted by me...

Must I paint them in a colorful scheme ?
(http://whfb.lexicanum.de/mediawiki/images/b/b2/Knappen_zu_Fu%C3%9F.jpg)

Or must I paint them in a more neutral/natural color scheme ?
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/833372DSCF2155.jpg)

Thanks for help...  :D
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Post by: Paul on March 04, 2015, 10:08:37 AM
My vote is  for the colourfull ones!!!
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Post by: rumacara on March 04, 2015, 10:52:37 AM
It depends on the scenario/use of the miniatures.
If you have enough you can paint a few as some nobles retainers and others as simple peasants like those for Robin Hoods merry men.

I tend to pick up 3 or 4 diferent nobles and their heraldry and then paint a few retainers on their livery colors.
Medieval armies would be made on this way. Several nobles with their retainers.
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Post by: Miantanomo on March 04, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
I think if you were going for militia, they would be more dull. But colorful is definitely more fun.  ;)
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Post by: Little Odo on March 04, 2015, 02:19:15 PM
Both sets are beautifully painted. As mentioned by Rumacara above, paint some in bright liveries and some as foresters so they can be used for a multitude of games/scenarios/genres.
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Post by: Patrice on March 04, 2015, 07:06:47 PM
Very nice painting!

As others have said, for infantry/bowmen you could paint them in liveries by very small groups of two or three (= each of these groups belonging to one of you knights);
or as a single, larger group (town militia, or recruitment by units);
or in neutral colour but historically you wouldn't happen to see many groups of "civilian" bowmen except in very special contexts.

For liveried troops I would suggest to follow the same coulour pattern for hoods as for tunics (as they were probably given two large pieces of coloured cloth to make both), and perhaps have a few different for variety, as you'll always have a guy or two wearing a "civilian" hood in the lot, at least if the campaign lasts some weeks away from their castle or town.
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Post by: Blue in vt on March 04, 2015, 08:45:29 PM
I guess I kind of split the difference going with mostly natural/muted colors...but with one contrating/brighter color to bring them to life.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/Brets/TobyUnitRedu_zpsawkagsq9.jpg) (http://s91.photobucket.com/user/csabick/media/Brets/TobyUnitRedu_zpsawkagsq9.jpg.html)

I'm sure whatever you chose to do will look fine...all of your work is an inspiration!

Cheers,

Blue
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Post by: Vermis on March 04, 2015, 11:28:23 PM
Tasty!  :-* Especially all that heraldry. Very sharp!
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Post by: le bon roi rene on March 05, 2015, 02:00:20 PM
Lotsa different ways to approach painting your army. Truth is, no matter what suggestions others give, you'll know the look you want when you see it. I went sort of in reverse approach in that my "fantasy" armies always have a historical theme. I love painting liveries and my method is to try to keep my palette somewhat restricted and avoid introducing too many extraneous colors.

Cheers,
Fred
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Post by: Patrice on March 05, 2015, 07:51:46 PM
 :o Magnificent painting, Bon roi René !
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Post by: A Lot of Gaul on March 05, 2015, 08:52:19 PM
Those are seriously impressive-looking figures, Fred!  :-*

Cheers,
Scott
Title: Re: Generic medieval army, for historical and fantasy games...
Post by: Mason on March 05, 2015, 10:45:44 PM
Some gorgeous paintwork on this thread all round.
 :-* :-*

Tancrede: That heraldry is simply amazing.
I thought that it had to be transfers at first it is so clean.
 :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: Generic medieval army, for historical and fantasy games...
Post by: tancrede on March 06, 2015, 08:23:32 AM
Thanks for comments, guys, it was helpful for me.

I've decided to go for squires in livery clothes (blue and red), and I think it works well (pics soon). Hoods and other clothes wil be painted in some muted colors, just as if it was the personnal clothes of the bowmen...

For the rest of the troops, they are already painted, so I won't repaint them.
Bowmen and lowrank men at arms are painted in muted colors, except some little parts in their lord colors.
Higher men at arms (wich I consider as poor knights) and foot knights are painted with their own heraldry.

For exemple, here are some of my foot knights and men at arms :

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/764x461q50/820/kuzb.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x422q90/819/gje0.jpg)


Lotsa different ways to approach painting your army. Truth is, no matter what suggestions others give, you'll know the look you want when you see it. I went sort of in reverse approach in that my "fantasy" armies always have a historical theme. I love painting liveries and my method is to try to keep my palette somewhat restricted and avoid introducing too many extraneous colors.

Cheers,
Fred
Very beautiful minis, Fred.
And as I was born in Angers, I like your nickname !  :D


I guess I kind of split the difference going with mostly natural/muted colors...but with one contrating/brighter color to bring them to life.
I'm sure whatever you chose to do will look fine...all of your work is an inspiration!

Cheers,

Blue

Nice to see you here, Blue.
I like the way you've done your own Bretonnians.

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Post by: Patrice on March 06, 2015, 09:37:53 AM
Astonishing!  :o
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Post by: Atheling on March 06, 2015, 03:26:36 PM
Fred,

It's great to have you on board.... it's been a while! I think the last time I heard from you I was asking about the John of Bedford's Emblem for his standard back in the days of the WABMedieval Yahoo Group!!

I had a sneaky suspicion that it was you when I saw your post in the Medieval Miniatures Painted thread but wasn't sure. V very distinctive and delightful high quality style!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.
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Post by: Duke Donald on March 06, 2015, 03:37:54 PM
These are stunning!
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Post by: le bon roi rene on March 06, 2015, 07:48:09 PM
Fred,

It's great to have you on board.... it's been a while! I think the last time I heard from you I was asking about the John of Bedford's Emblem for his standard back in the days of the WABMedieval Yahoo Group!!

I had a sneaky suspicion that it was you when I saw your post in the Medieval Miniatures Painted thread but wasn't sure. V very distinctive and delightful high quality style!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.

Been away a bit and can never outrun my enjoyment of the hobby for long. It seems like the WAB scene has cooled considerable in the past few years, however, that is a great segueway for a thread about basing. (Something I've been struggling with for months as I weigh basing for maximum aesthetic value against game system versatility.

Thank's for the kind words. Its good to be back.

Cheers,
Fred :)
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Post by: Duff on March 06, 2015, 08:38:52 PM
Fantastic work. I always side with pretty colours over historical accuracy, unless brown and green blobs merging into one another on the tabletop is something that gets you excited of course.
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Post by: le bon roi rene on March 06, 2015, 11:24:07 PM

And as I was born in Angers, I like your nickname !  :D


Nice to see you here, Blue.



Thanks, I learned about the old man reading about his grandson Rene II during the Burgundian Wars. Rene I's life story is far too interesting to pass up. I like to think of him as a 15th Century version of "the World's Most Interesting Man". ;)
Title: Re: Generic medieval army, for historical and fantasy games...
Post by: Atheling on March 07, 2015, 07:03:00 AM
Been away a bit and can never outrun my enjoyment of the hobby for long. It seems like the WAB scene has cooled considerable in the past few years, however, that is a great segueway for a thread about basing. (Something I've been struggling with for months as I weigh basing for maximum aesthetic value against game system versatility.

Thank's for the kind words. Its good to be back.

Cheers,
Fred :)

Good to have you back  8).

Darrell.
Title: Re: Generic medieval army, for historical and fantasy games...
Post by: tancrede on March 09, 2015, 07:50:59 AM
So, between some wine festival (I'm in Bordeaux, so...) and rugby match, I've found some time this week-end to paint my foot squires...
As said, I've chosen to paint them with a blue and red livery, just as my spearmen.

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/318695DSC04086.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/197752DSC04087.jpg)

Those old GW minis are really a pleasure to paint.
Thanks to the Perry brothers !

Now, I must add 2 more to field them for SAGA / Hail Caesar / Lion Rampant games, and a little banner...
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Post by: tomrommel1 on March 09, 2015, 10:17:28 AM
really really nice figures :-*
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Post by: Little Odo on March 09, 2015, 05:57:08 PM
Very nice. That is a lovely looking army coming along here.
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Post by: Modhail on March 13, 2015, 09:55:25 AM
Very, very lovely, impressive painting!
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Post by: Patrice on March 13, 2015, 10:06:30 AM
In blue and red, you can also use them as Paris militia. :)
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Post by: tancrede on March 31, 2015, 08:16:35 AM
Thanks for comments, guys.

For today, Here are Bertrand and his Merry Men (in french : Bertrand le brigand et les Archers de Bergerac).
I still have to do a banner for them, but I will paint it soon (with the banner of the foot squires).

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/870322DSC04151.jpg)
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Post by: Paul on March 31, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
 :-* :-*
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Post by: Tactalvanic on March 31, 2015, 08:45:44 AM
Stunning work - wish I was near that good  :)
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Post by: Leigh Metford on March 31, 2015, 01:26:59 PM
Some of the best painting I've ever seen  :o;  just one small question: why is the horned knight in the first photo standing in a hole?
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Post by: Modhail on March 31, 2015, 06:03:54 PM
Lovely painting! I like the little girl you added to the band of bowmen.
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Post by: Dr DeAth on March 31, 2015, 08:54:01 PM
superb subtle painting - we need bigger pictures and some close ups!  :-* :-*
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Post by: Admiral Benbow on April 07, 2015, 10:45:04 AM
Superbly painted army!  :-* :o
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Post by: danmer on April 07, 2015, 11:31:12 AM
Bootiful work there! Some of those old sculpts are fantastic to work with, but your paint jobs are top notch!  ;D
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Post by: Steve63 on April 07, 2015, 06:06:50 PM
Great work! lovin' it
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Post by: tancrede on May 18, 2015, 12:46:29 PM
Thanks for comments, guys !

Some news from the desk :

- a champion for a new unit of knights :
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/332829DSC04403.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/583160DSC04404.jpg)

- 2 more foot squires (now I must finish the banner and the movement tray) :
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/662614DSC04409.jpg)

- and 2 more minis in WIP : the musician for the new knights unit and a mounted sergent (displaying the champion's heraldry) :
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/648133DSC04411.jpg)
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Post by: von Lucky on May 18, 2015, 01:42:24 PM
Such rich colours in your painting - love it.
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Post by: Michi on May 18, 2015, 04:29:31 PM
Such rich colours in your painting - love it.

Indeed - splendid!
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Post by: Modhail on May 18, 2015, 04:42:40 PM
Such vibrant and neat heraldry! I love it. :-*
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Post by: Melnibonean on May 21, 2015, 11:24:21 PM
A lovely bunch of figures. Great, vibrant colours.
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Post by: NurgleHH on May 24, 2015, 10:27:44 PM
Great! The two bowmen look so realistic. Old Warhammer miniatures??
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Post by: tancrede on September 22, 2015, 08:12:16 AM
Thanks for comments, guys !

Old Warhammer miniatures??
Yes. Some foot squires from the 90s bretonnian range...


As I have started playing King of War, I just want to give some love to my old Brets again (as they have nice lists to field them in KoW). So I made some archeological work in my bitzbox and built me some more knights.

For today, I just have some pics of another knight hero for my bretonnian army. Not very historical, but I like it :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/911126DSC05019.jpg)
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/650049DSC05020.jpg)
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/692034DSC05021.jpg)

More spearmen to come soon...
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Post by: Vermis on September 22, 2015, 12:27:24 PM
 :-* :-* :-*

Look at that. Look at that red. Look at those freehand patterns. I don't even...
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Post by: Paul on September 22, 2015, 12:40:14 PM
 :-* :-*
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Post by: **GS** on September 22, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
pffft, just too much art instead of plain craft. I will never try... lol

No, those are truly gorgeous!

Cheers
GS
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Post by: rumacara on September 22, 2015, 04:59:10 PM
Very very nice painting. :-* :-*
Well done.
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Post by: Treebeard on September 22, 2015, 05:55:30 PM
This is a masterpiece.
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Post by: Atheling on September 22, 2015, 07:27:46 PM
Wonderful lush brushwork mon ami  :-* :-* :-*

There are some really lovely old classics in among that army  8)

Darrell.
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Post by: tancrede on September 23, 2015, 01:05:26 PM
Thanks for comments, guys !

There are some really lovely old classics in among that army  8)
Yes, I have some old minis in this army, especially from the 90s range (imo, the best ever sculpted for the bretonnian range). I have more knights lying in the bitzbox, waiting for their turn, but I'll take some pics of other units soon (as soon as I will have rebased them to fit the new basing).
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Post by: tancrede on October 08, 2015, 08:26:16 AM
For today, just a little pic of the just finished musician of the knights unit, with his leader...

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/594969DSC05049.jpg)
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Post by: Atheling on October 08, 2015, 08:34:28 AM
For today, just a little pic of the just finished musician of the knights unit, with his leader...

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/594969DSC05049.jpg)


Lovely  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.
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Post by: Michi on October 08, 2015, 09:14:57 AM
Lovely  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Darrell.

Can´t say it better!