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Title: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses - Live on Kickstarter now - See page 4
Post by: Richard on March 30, 2015, 08:58:54 PM: I have been working on a project with Craig and Charles of IHMN and Russ and Duncan of Elemental Games to develop 28mm steam horses and riders for game such as IHMN, EotD and WWE.

The riders and horses will be seperate but are shown here as final first renders waiting for first test prints.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=23456)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=23457)

The Kickstarter campaign will initially be for horses in 2 poses with 3 heads and 5 riders. with stretch goals to include cavalry, Sioux Indians and hopefully more. They are designed to fit in with other 28mm figures suitable for the above games.

I am forming a new company to commission these figures called Copper Mine Miniatures and if this first Kickstarter is a success I plan on expanding the range. I have already set up a basic website and Facebook page to keep you updated. If it is okay I will also update this thread from time to time with major events only to avoid spam.

Regards
Richard
Copper Mine Miniatures
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Malamute on March 30, 2015, 09:38:23 PM: Hi Richard, good luck with this venture. :)

If its ok with you I will move this to the main VSF board where it will probably get more exposure. :)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Craig on March 31, 2015, 05:35:11 AM: We are so looking forwards to this venture succeeding :D
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on March 31, 2015, 01:07:07 PM: Quote from: Malamute on March 30, 2015, 09:38:23 PM
Hi Richard, good luck with this venture. :)

If its ok with you I will move this to the main VSF board where it will probably get more exposure. :)

Fine with me, I was not sure where to post, Thank you.

Regards
Richard
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: axabrax on March 31, 2015, 02:53:25 PM: Anyone else not seeing the photos here?
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Malamute on March 31, 2015, 03:04:48 PM: Quote from: axabrax on March 31, 2015, 02:53:25 PM
Anyone else not seeing the photos here?

No problem on my pc, but can't see them on my iPad.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on March 31, 2015, 03:07:54 PM: Oh what do I need to do to them then?
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Genghis on March 31, 2015, 05:49:15 PM: Looking good. Will they accept Hinterland's side saddle riding Lady Hussars?

(Picture works for me.)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on March 31, 2015, 08:16:34 PM: Quote from: Genghis on March 31, 2015, 05:49:15 PM
Looking good. Will they accept Hinterland's side saddle riding Lady Hussars?

(Picture works for me.)

Sorry don't know, not been part of the design spec, but I have an Idea....
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Comstar on April 01, 2015, 09:46:50 AM: These look great :-* all you need now is a clock work dog to go with them :)

Cheers Matt
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Stepman3 on April 01, 2015, 04:16:27 PM: Dismounted versions of the riders?
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Blodwin on April 01, 2015, 09:00:15 PM: Very nice - looking forward to these.

Note to self - don't spend all your money at Salute safe some for this kickstarter :-*

Blodwin
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 01, 2015, 09:10:12 PM: Quote from: Stepman3 on April 01, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
Dismounted versions of the riders?

This project is for mounted figures only I am afraid as there is plenty of dismounted figures about and I saw a potential gap in the market for mounted VSF figures.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Dezmond on April 01, 2015, 11:19:21 PM: Nice!

Might I put in a vote for some Steampunk Household Cavalry riders?

(http://blogs.ft.com/photo-diary/files/2014/03/HOUSHOLD.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tpkDrJukKc4/VFYCAaVQefI/AAAAAAAABM0/OVgn8x8Qswg/s1600/KDG%2B(2).JPG)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: goon3423 on April 02, 2015, 01:32:34 AM: I'm down for the horses, don't really need the riders but I need more steam horses. The Mage Knight ones are ok but some variety would be nice.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Tehet on April 02, 2015, 07:53:06 AM: I second that goon3423. I believe there should be a concentration on the horses.

Of course, if the riders are as characterful and up to the standard suggested by the illustrations, I might be forced to part with more cash!

I don't suppose one of the stretch goals might be a steam elephant?

I will certainly be backing this KS...
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 02, 2015, 07:46:36 PM: Some great ideas coming on here and on Facebook thank you all and please keep them coming.

1: House hold Cavalry has crossed my mind but this project is meant to follow the Wild West theme, if I did I would do the Horse Guards for a change.
2: All pledge levels except one were for horses and riders this will now change (thank you for giving me advance warning)
3: Steam elephant interesting may be another time or if this project goes very well.
4: I am planning to do standard horses as well as steam as my main focus is on the riders as well as the steam horses. I will be re-thinking that this weekend as some characters I really like and want to do, but others could get put back. I also have ideas for alternative versions of the steam horse so need to think about the overall look of the project and the financials implications. I am hoping that if this one is successful I will follow it up with other projects covering other countries and ideas all based around VSF.

That is enough from me I am sure to have bored you all.. Richard
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 02, 2015, 08:01:18 PM: Horse Guards is a building, not a unit. Do you mean Blues and Royals? If so the uniforms are pretty much identical, just different colours.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 02, 2015, 08:03:38 PM: Quote from: Dewbakuk on April 02, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Horse Guards is a building, not a unit. Do you mean Blues and Royals? If so the uniforms are pretty much identical, just different colours.

Yes I knew what I meant just my fingers typed something else.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Genghis on April 02, 2015, 09:26:32 PM: Quote from: Richard on April 01, 2015, 09:10:12 PM
This project is for mounted figures only I am afraid as there is plenty of dismounted figures about and I saw a potential gap in the market for mounted VSF figures.

It may be worth considering dismounted riders for games that allow dismounting (and/or for horses to get shot out from under the rider); being able to replace the horse & rider with a dismounted version of the same rider would be ace. (Another idea may be to style some of the mounted riders to be similar to other companies' dismounted figures, although I'm not sure where that would stand with IP/copyright.)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: gamer Mac on April 02, 2015, 09:48:43 PM: How about a link to the kickstarter?
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 02, 2015, 09:51:28 PM: Quote from: gamer Mac on April 02, 2015, 09:48:43 PM
How about a link to the kickstarter?

Doesn't exist yet.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Tehet on April 03, 2015, 07:51:28 AM: Since you've opened the floor to suggestions, how about this...

Obviously cost is key as at the end of the day you don't want to be making a loss.

Horse wise, how about having a separate sprue for legs/heads/tails and one for bodies. This would allow some variety in styles, i.e. lighter and heavier armoured bodies, eastern and western saddles and paraphernalia. If we pushed it further you might have a more esoteric saddle pack with quiver and axes for a Persian look, or a more basic saddle pack and carbine set for the wild west. Other adornments might include explosives, engineers packs and lances. If the legs were in sets of 8, i.e. two right front legs, two right back legs etcetera, with good design this would allow quite a mix of poses. Add in three head poses and Wow!

Key would be to make the horses parts have a nice tight fit with sockets. Flat joining surfaces can be the bane of plastic assembly. The actual join could be covered by a sort of cupola, similar to how GW cover the join between arm and shoulder on their Space Marines.

For stretch goals you might look at...

A broken down steam horse
A farrier (a cross between blacksmith/steam engineer)
A lady rider (riding with legs to one side in the fashion ladeez used to)

Of course, I'd love to see a steam elephant as well!

Just some thoughts...
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 03, 2015, 11:07:58 AM: Quote from: Dewbakuk on April 02, 2015, 09:51:28 PM
Doesn't exist yet.

Correct I will post when I have a link worth sharing.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 03, 2015, 11:17:55 AM: Quote from: Tehet on April 03, 2015, 07:51:28 AM
Since you've opened the floor to suggestions, how about this...

Obviously cost is key as at the end of the day you don't want to be making a loss.

Horse wise, how about having a separate sprue for legs/heads/tails and one for bodies. This would allow some variety in styles, i.e. lighter and heavier armoured bodies, eastern and western saddles and paraphernalia. If we pushed it further you might have a more esoteric saddle pack with quiver and axes for a Persian look, or a more basic saddle pack and carbine set for the wild west. Other adornments might include explosives, engineers packs and lances. If the legs were in sets of 8, i.e. two right front legs, two right back legs etcetera, with good design this would allow quite a mix of poses. Add in three head poses and Wow!

Key would be to make the horses parts have a nice tight fit with sockets. Flat joining surfaces can be the bane of plastic assembly. The actual join could be covered by a sort of cupola, similar to how GW cover the join between arm and shoulder on their Space Marines.

For stretch goals you might look at...

A broken down steam horse
A farrier (a cross between blacksmith/steam engineer)
A lady rider (riding with legs to one side in the fashion ladeez used to)

Of course, I'd love to see a steam elephant as well!

Just some thoughts...
Well quite a list, costs a tight and the horse is signed off, but I will give it some thought and discuss with sculptor. These will be cast in white metal though.
Broken steam horse interesting idea as is a farrier, watch this may be a late stretch goal or a later project.

Steam elephant will have to wait for another year and perhaps a Steampunk Raj Campaign...
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Grimmnar on April 04, 2015, 05:00:41 AM: i have been collecting the Mage Knight Steam Horses for years. I have been collecting them for various genres. Always look for them at cons and flea markets. I have quit a stable of them.
With that's aid these new beauties are looking pretty spiffy and i await the KS release.

Grimm
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 05, 2015, 08:42:15 PM: I hope this is okay if not please delete but when Copper Mine Miniatures Facebook page reaches 75 likes currently 54 I will announce first stretch goal and a few other details.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 09, 2015, 08:06:38 PM: Capture of signed off first steam horse more details to follow.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=23816)

Currently on 62 likes more details willed unveiled at 75 likes.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 09, 2015, 08:50:32 PM: Still can't see any pics on my iPad :'(

Any chance of a link to them as well?
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 09, 2015, 08:57:33 PM: Quote from: Dewbakuk on April 09, 2015, 08:50:32 PM
Still can't see any pics on my iPad :'(

Any chance of a link to them as well?

www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures (http://www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures)

The picture is on the above facebook page only for now, I'll find out what is wrong over the weekend.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Dewbakuk on April 09, 2015, 09:33:10 PM: Cool thanks, I've liked the page so I can see future updates.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: oabee on April 10, 2015, 04:58:36 PM: I have successfully resisted the lure of several kickstarters lately, but will definitely be on board with this. I have no specific suggestions except a fervent hope for your success, so our options can expand, and expand, and expand. Maybe two--or more--versions of steam horses in addition to different poses, for example.

Best of luck with this! :D
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 10, 2015, 08:11:35 PM: I can reveal that I have re-organised this project and have been in touch with Hinterland Miniatures about his Hussars. He is sending me over a mix of figures so that if we can unlock our first stretch goal we have 2 characters of our own in mind riding side saddle on and adapted steam horse that will also accommodate Hinterland figures.

Horse Pose 2

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=23817)

Also on facebook as before
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 11, 2015, 04:44:25 PM: (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=23888)

more details being added at www.coppermineminiatures.co.uk (http://www.coppermineminiatures.co.uk)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Genghis on April 13, 2015, 03:21:48 PM: Quote from: Richard on April 10, 2015, 08:11:35 PM
I can reveal that I have re-organised this project and have been in touch with Hinterland Miniatures about his Hussars. He is sending me over a mix of figures so that if we can unlock our first stretch goal we have 2 characters of our own in mind riding side saddle on and adapted steam horse that will also accommodate Hinterland figures.

Now we're talking. :) Once that stretch goal unlocks I'll definitely be signing myself up for some.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 14, 2015, 12:49:17 PM: Quote from: Genghis on April 13, 2015, 03:21:48 PM
Now we're talking. :) Once that stretch goal unlocks I'll definitely be signing myself up for some.

No pressure then ;) I am just hoping to reach the first target, then worry about the next.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Tactalvanic on April 15, 2015, 08:29:08 AM: One to keep an eye on :)

Just have to convince my better half that it would be a necessary addition to my addiction.. o_o
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 16, 2015, 08:05:46 PM: First rider Bernard Stodden

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=23814)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 19, 2015, 03:52:08 PM: Here is the starting steam horse line up

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24188)

I hope you like, if you do please like our facebook page www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures (http://www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: fred on April 19, 2015, 04:49:16 PM: this looks intriguing...
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: white knight on April 19, 2015, 08:15:19 PM: My, this looks interesting. 8)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 19, 2015, 08:34:04 PM: Thank you for your interest, preview of rider 2 (Joe Stodden) below

Please also like our facebook page for updates www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures (http://www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24209)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on April 24, 2015, 02:57:08 PM: Here it is the final renders of the second rider and pose 2 and head 2 of the steam horse.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24374)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24375)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Black Burt on April 26, 2015, 08:24:48 AM: Are you doing dismounted versions of the riders as well?
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming Mid May 2015 - 3D prints
Post by: Richard on April 26, 2015, 04:40:10 PM: Quote from: Black Burt on April 26, 2015, 08:24:48 AM
Are you doing dismounted versions of the riders as well?

Not at the moment but I have had several requests.

I collected the 3D prints for Salute yesterday and had a meeting with the design team. One alteration to be made to the horse for casting and we are good to go.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24436)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24437)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24438)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Genghis on April 27, 2015, 05:59:15 PM: Looking good. Now let's see the dames... ;)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on May 09, 2015, 11:18:37 AM: Kickstarter will launch in seven days count down is here www.coppermineminiatures.co.uk (http://www.coppermineminiatures.co.uk)

I'll update fully later today.
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on May 09, 2015, 01:42:16 PM: (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24737)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on May 09, 2015, 08:09:44 PM: I have today finished painting the first 3D printed sample and here are a few pictures, since this print a modification has been made to the horse for casting purposes more details to follow.

Horse only
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24767)

Horse and Rider 1 Bernard Stodden.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24768)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24769)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses coming May 2015
Post by: Richard on May 16, 2015, 01:00:21 PM: (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=24928)

Kickstarter Project Live at: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/926673037/28mm-steam-horses-for-victorian-sci-fi-the-wild-we
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses - Live on Kickstarter now - See page 4
Post by: Blodwin on May 19, 2015, 09:29:44 PM: I'm in - long wait but I'm sure it will be worth it.

Good luck

Blodwin
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses - Live on Kickstarter now - See page 4
Post by: Richard on May 20, 2015, 07:33:18 PM: I am hoping to deliver early, just from past experience it is better to be early than late hence the March 2016 delivery date.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=25058)

www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures (http://www.facebook.com/coppermineminiatures)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/926673037/28mm-steam-horses-for-victorian-sci-fi-the-wild-we (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/926673037/28mm-steam-horses-for-victorian-sci-fi-the-wild-we)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses - Live on Kickstarter now - See page 4
Post by: Richard on May 24, 2015, 04:29:38 PM: Size comparison to other 28mm figures.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/926673037/28mm-steam-horses-for-victorian-sci-fi-the-wild-we (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/926673037/28mm-steam-horses-for-victorian-sci-fi-the-wild-we)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=25177)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=25178)
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses - Live on Kickstarter now - See page 4
Post by: Richard on May 30, 2015, 09:10:47 PM: 2 NEW RIDERS ADDED
I have taken the decision to added to new riders to the first goal of £4300 so that those who pledge for 5 horses and riders are guaranteed to get 5 different riders. These new riders are cowboys to continue the theme of the first 3. The picture below shows the second of the 2 cowboys and I hope to have details of the other from Duncan the sculptor in the next few days.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=25430)

Please share this Kickstarter with your friends and family, the more the merrier. The project will run for just over 2 weeks, so if you want a steam horse now is the time to pledge. Remember no money will be taken if we do not reach our initial goal.

Regards
Richard
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses - Live on Kickstarter now - See page 4
Post by: Tehet on June 01, 2015, 01:01:25 PM: Seen them in the flesh so to speak and they are beautiful sculpts...
Title: Re: [Kickstarter] - Steam Horses - Live on Kickstarter now - See page 4
Post by: Richard on June 01, 2015, 08:30:10 PM: Tehet Thank you.

Here is the 5th rider.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=25524)

We have passed 165 followers on Facebook so this has been unlocked and will go to all backers over Steamer (1 Steamer horse No rider) level.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=25525)

]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/926673037/28mm-steam-horses-for-victorian-sci-fi-the-wild-we (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/926673037/28mm-steam-horses-for-victorian-sci-fi-the-wild-we)