Lead Adventure Forum

Other Stuff => The Lead Painters' League => Season 9 => Topic started by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 19, 2015, 11:47:30 AM

Title: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 19, 2015, 11:47:30 AM
And here we go with the first leaderboard in this season. This time I'm using (thanks to the suggestion of gnomehome!) the distribution of the voting points based on percentage of votes. Not sure if it's going to make that much difference at the end but I also believe that it's probably the most fair way to distribute the points betweeen the contestants. We will see.

Now please check your points. If you find any mistakes, just drop me a PM please.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/3_19_04_15_12_40_47.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on April 19, 2015, 12:51:03 PM
Prof - not sure how you calculate the points from the difference in votes.  It seems that votes count for a lot less than bonus points though eg you scored 314 votes difference and get 8 points.  I scored 78 votes difference and get 6 points.  This seems like a tiny points difference for such a large votes difference.  Then I get 10 bonus points and end up above you in the table  :o ?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Lt. Hazel on April 19, 2015, 01:42:25 PM
Thank you for choosing my black riders, I am honoured!

Jan
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: OSHIROmodels on April 19, 2015, 01:58:22 PM
Woohoo! Top ten!

That's not going to last long though  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 19, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
Prof - not sure how you calculate the points from the difference in votes.  It seems that votes count for a lot less than bonus points though eg you scored 314 votes difference and get 8 points.  I scored 78 votes difference and get 6 points.  This seems like a tiny points difference for such a large votes difference.  Then I get 10 bonus points and end up above you in the table  :o ?

I have no bonus points as I didn't enter anything armoured :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: S44lade on April 19, 2015, 05:33:39 PM

The rules post has full details of how the points are calculated

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=76115.0
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Admiral Benbow on April 19, 2015, 06:47:23 PM
The rules post has full details of how the points are calculated
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=76115.0

Well, that's partly true. But concerning vote bonus points there is only "For every full 50 votes received, a team (win, lose or draw) is awarded 1 vote bonus point." So, nothing about votes distribution and not a clarification why for example I get 9 bonus points for 437 votes instead of 8.

Perhaps it would be nice to once again describe the exact procedure concerning vote bonus points (and add it to the main rules body).

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Captain Blood on April 19, 2015, 06:55:32 PM
I would if I understood it Michael, but I don't.

The Prof has adopted a slightly different method for calculating the votes bonus (per gnomehome's suggestion at the top of page 2 of this thread) based on % differentials rather than absolute numbers of votes. As I say, I don't really understand, being possibly the world's least mathematical person. So I had better leave him to explain :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 19, 2015, 06:56:59 PM
Well, that's partly true. But concerning vote bonus points there is only "For every full 50 votes received, a team (win, lose or draw) is awarded 1 vote bonus point." So, nothing about votes distribution and not a clarification why for example I get 9 bonus points for 437 votes instead of 8.

Perhaps it would be nice to once again describe the exact procedure concerning vote bonus points (and add it to the main rules body).

Thanks.


Like mentioned in the original post, I've used the percentage method this time. The explanation with the succeeding adaption of the rules is coming.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on April 19, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
Quote
I have no bonus points as I didn't enter anything armoured

Oh I get that bit - it was just that the theme bonus is worth more points than the votes bonus.  You won your round with a big margin, I won with around 25% of your margin, yet I score only 2 points less....
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 20, 2015, 03:58:25 PM
Well, that's partly true. But concerning vote bonus points there is only "For every full 50 votes received, a team (win, lose or draw) is awarded 1 vote bonus point." So, nothing about votes distribution and not a clarification why for example I get 9 bonus points for 437 votes instead of 8.

Perhaps it would be nice to once again describe the exact procedure concerning vote bonus points (and add it to the main rules body).

from the adapted main rules:

Quote
10a. Vote share bonus points

1. Both contestants' total vote scores are added to determine the total vote score.
2. Next, each contestants individual score is divided by the total vote score to determine their share.
3. Each contestant receives 1 vote point for every ten percent of the total vote score.
4. For fractions of ten percent, the lower score is rounded up to the next full ten, the higher score is rounded down. This means that unless a contestant receives zero votes, the minimum score is always 1, the maximum score is always 9.

Example: If, in a match, 500 votes were cast, of which 400 were in favour of contestant A and 100 in contestant B, contestant A receives 8 vote points (80%) whereas contestant B receives 2 vote points (20%).

If contestant A received 370 votes (74%) whereas contestant B receives 130 (26%), contestant B's vote points are rounded up from 2.6 to 3.

We consider this to be a fairer representation of the voters' favour than the previous system based on the actual number of votes, since it does not penalise matches with low total vote scores.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Treebeard on April 24, 2015, 11:28:20 AM
I have no bonus points as I didn't enter anything armoured :)

The guy in the pot should be considered in heavy armour  ;D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on April 26, 2015, 10:34:38 AM
After Round Two.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/3_26_04_15_11_33_44.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Drachenklinge on April 26, 2015, 10:44:52 AM
Captain Blood ... beware! I am on my way to the top.  ;D

Thanks to the orga for working on weekends and bringing us wonderful pics and calculations.
DK
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 04, 2015, 07:31:04 PM
After Round Three.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/3_04_05_15_8_30_20.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 04, 2015, 07:33:33 PM
Ah bollocks  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on May 04, 2015, 09:18:09 PM
Nice, moved up a couple of places and got my Entry used on the Leaderboard  :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on May 05, 2015, 12:09:00 AM
Looks like I may have peaked too soon.  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: verd on May 05, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
I'm the 5th!  :o :o :o :o

I will enjoy this while it lasts (just a week, I guess).   ;) lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: pocoloco on May 05, 2015, 01:43:26 PM
Rob Bresnen is listed as 1 W and 1 L on the latest leaderboard, missing one round there?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: XCIV on May 05, 2015, 10:11:20 PM
I suspect I peaked last week.  :'(  Still, being at #5 at any point in this competition is pretty great.  :o
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 06, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
Rob Bresnen is listed as 1 W and 1 L on the latest leaderboard, missing one round there?

Indeed, thanks for the hint, it's been a mistake. Will correct it next time updating leaderboard. Sorry, Rob! :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Rob_bresnen on May 10, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
On the leader board I only seem to have been in two rounds (won one lost one) not sure why?

Edited: just read above post. Thanks pocoloco.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 10, 2015, 07:18:05 PM
After Round Four:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/3_10_05_15_8_17_20.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Mr Tough Guy on May 10, 2015, 09:46:46 PM
Think I got bonus points I wasn't supposed to get as my round 4 entry wasn't new
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: verd on May 11, 2015, 01:52:00 PM
I suspect I peaked last week.  :'(  Still, being at #5 at any point in this competition is pretty great.  :o

Now I feel exactly the same way  :(
 ;)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Vanvlak on May 11, 2015, 04:44:03 PM
I'm going down..... :D
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 11, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
Ah bollocks even more  lol
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Dolmot on May 11, 2015, 07:51:57 PM
Is there something wrong with the totals? I believe W/D/L and bonus points are round tens so the last digits of vote points and totals should match. However, they don't for positions 1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 28, 29, 30, 32. (List not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.) Rounding error somewhere?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on May 11, 2015, 09:21:40 PM
Didn't slide as far as I thought I would .... but another loss this round will see me mid-table at best on the next leaderboard I think.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 12, 2015, 08:55:15 PM
Is there something wrong with the totals? I believe W/D/L and bonus points are round tens so the last digits of vote points and totals should match. However, they don't for positions 1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 28, 29, 30, 32. (List not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.) Rounding error somewhere?

Yes, damn Excel formulas  >:( will take care of it next time.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 17, 2015, 06:07:29 PM
After Round Five:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/21/3_17_05_15_7_07_01.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 17, 2015, 06:14:41 PM
Ah well, still down at the bottom  lol

I promise to better next year  :D

cheers

James
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Stéphane on May 17, 2015, 08:01:51 PM
I protest !
My mice had some drivers. Where are my 5 bonus points ?  :D  lol

Stéphane
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: XCIV on May 18, 2015, 04:43:28 AM
And my slide continues...

Looks bad for Round 6, too.

Looking for that elusive third victory. Maybe next week...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 24, 2015, 02:15:17 PM
After Round Six.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/3_24_05_15_3_14_19.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on May 25, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
The inexorable slide continues....and round 7 isn't going to be any better.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on May 31, 2015, 06:18:27 PM
After Round Seven

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/3_31_05_15_7_17_51.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Vanvlak on May 31, 2015, 06:25:42 PM
I predict this is the highest I'll go until the end of the league.  :D
Meanwhile, at the far end of the league, the Admiral seems unstoppable, although Captain Blood is giving him a run for his money. 
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: XCIV on June 01, 2015, 01:34:42 AM
Man, I can't even see the Admiral from down here.

I'd be happy to hold where I am at this rate.  :?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 01, 2015, 07:10:14 AM
When there is nothing left to a man ... there is still revenge! So, now I am plotting my schemes for the next LPL.  :D

*read with increasingly insane voice and hands raised to the sky* New cam, better cam, new minis, more minis, maybe more terrain, more background, more more! muahaha ...  o_o

I am somewhat honored, to have my match-partner's pic shown as titel this round.

Still, You all did a marvelous job here. Thanks again to all fellow combatants for letting us have these wonderful entries! And for organizing it, as well.

love it
DK
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: D@rth J@ymZ on June 01, 2015, 04:24:10 PM
Made it to the leaderboard banner. A small victory, but I am honoured to be selected :)
There were some excellent entries in the last round.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on June 01, 2015, 11:11:07 PM
Down, down down I slide  ::)

Maybe this week I'll go back up a bit  :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: mikedemana on June 02, 2015, 06:27:17 PM
Wow, what competition! Thirty of 32 entrants have at least two losses... :o

Maybe next year I'll be ready to re-enter....!

Mike Demana
ww.firstcommandwargames.com
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on June 07, 2015, 11:42:19 AM
After Round Eight.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/3_07_06_15_12_41_21.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on June 07, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
I made the leaderboard picture  :o    Thank you for the honour Prof.

A gain of 7 places too.  Life is good !
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: XCIV on June 09, 2015, 03:45:40 AM
Well, I've made two things better than last season: more total points and more wins. So, at this point, I feel like it was a more successful season than 8 (at least for me).

Now, to finish painting up that Round 10 entry...
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Drachenklinge on June 09, 2015, 06:34:28 AM
This LPL I feel somewhat happy to be on the leaderboard at all. However, position three wouldn't be that bad, if it wasn't backwards. lol

Well, one always need a goal to stick to. ^^
DK
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: thebinmann on June 09, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
How interesting, I was wondering what might happen in the last round if I recall it is usually first vs second but as they have faced each other already can they do so again?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Captain Blood on June 09, 2015, 10:37:38 PM
No, but a few of the leading participants have not faced each other yet, so there should still be something worth watching at the finish :)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: thebinmann on June 10, 2015, 06:32:12 PM
No, but a few of the leading participants have not faced each other yet, so there should still be something worth watching at the finish :)

Thanks, and as others catch up it will still be all to play for!

The final, like very round is always worth watching anyway
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on June 14, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
After Round Nine.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/3_14_06_15_12_13_30.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 14, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Slowly on the way back up, can we have another ten rounds  lol

cheers

James
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: S44lade on June 14, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
They'll have to give you a prelim round Jim so you can warm up a bit!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Thargor on June 14, 2015, 01:55:58 PM
Well Gentlemen, it's been an emotional roller coaster again and I have struggled almost every week to get something in vaguely on time.  It's looking like a 5-5 for me.

The entries in this round are simply amazing and there are very few match ups that are easy to choose between.  Well done everybody, it has once again been a pleasure competing with you and a massive thank you to Rich for running it.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Steam Flunky on June 14, 2015, 05:49:50 PM
Hey! Thats my viking longhouse on the leaderboard. Thank you very much. Honoured!
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: NurgleHH on June 14, 2015, 09:34:15 PM
After ten rounds thank you to all 32 Gamers in this fantastic Competition. It was great fun the last ten weeks. I had a lot of fun, great paintings and exciting battles.
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Rob_bresnen on June 27, 2015, 05:12:53 PM
Any final score board yet?
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 27, 2015, 05:14:25 PM
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=79861.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=79861.0)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Prof.Witchheimer on June 28, 2015, 09:15:14 AM
Any final score board yet?

Sorry, guys, forgot to complete that one because of that other "Results" thread.

here we go:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/140_21_06_15_6_09_50.jpg)
Title: Re: The Lead Painters League Season 9 - Leaderboard
Post by: Captain Blood on June 28, 2015, 01:31:17 PM
Thanks Alex.
Very interesting charting how people moved up and down the rankings with the ebb and flow of battle :)

I will be working out with Dr Mathias how we distribute the lovely little LPL medals he has designed to winners past and present.

Meanwhile, here out of interest, is the record of podium positions across the 9 leagues we have run.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/577_28_06_15_2_18_53_0.jpg)

Number 10 should be interesting!