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Title: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Theatralic on April 28, 2015, 05:04:03 PM
Since my Google Search is only showing me rather kinky Stuff that has nothing to do with Tabletop (although you could certainly call it Roleplaying) I thought I would ask in here again.

I want to play some Cungeon crawls, so far I am leaning toward Trap Door, being on the poor side I got myself some D&D Dungeon Master Tiles instead of a proper full blown Dungeon.

To spice Things up I would love to add some Dongeon furniture but most Things I had seen tended to be a tad expensive ...or I am simply to cheap ;P

I would also like to avoid Hirst Arts for now.

Any suggestions who are readily availlable in europe?


cheers T
Title: Re: Sources of affordable Dungeon Furniture
Post by: PatrickWR on April 28, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
Legendary Realms is a USA-based company that sells very nice, fairly cheap prepainted dungeon scenery and furniture. Check 'em out here:

http://www.legendaryrealmsgames.com/store/

Title: Re: Sources of affordable Dungeon Furniture
Post by: Dr Mathias on April 28, 2015, 05:52:52 PM
I'm not sure on European availability, but the Reaper Bones range had some decor. This link has three, there may be more.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones%20decor
Title: Re: Sources of affordable Dungeon Furniture
Post by: Theatralic on April 28, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
Legendary Realms is a USA-based company that sells very nice, fairly cheap prepainted dungeon scenery and furniture. Check 'em out here:

http://www.legendaryrealmsgames.com/store/



Thank you kindly PatrickWR, but after a short check even a 5 dollar Piece would cost 36 dollars in VAT and Shipping. Thats why I am trying to avoid overseas Stuff. But still a big thanks for taking your Time :)

I'm not sure on European availability, but the Reaper Bones range had some decor. This link has three, there may be more.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones%20decor

LOl, thank You Dr Matthias, I had absolutely forgotten about Bones....I actually allready own those Pieces and hadn`t rembered them till this moment...Thats what you get for being a Hoarder

Keep it coming Guys :)
Title: Re: Sources of affordable Dungeon Furniture
Post by: Hobgoblin on April 28, 2015, 06:05:32 PM
What about the old Fantasy Forge/Grendel stuff?

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=227_41&zenid=25f5db77c557b26b9496c79da36b0e90 (http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=227_41&zenid=25f5db77c557b26b9496c79da36b0e90)

Title: Re: Sources of affordable Dungeon Furniture
Post by: Theatralic on April 28, 2015, 07:19:23 PM
Thanks Hobgoblin, I think those are an option, together with some Thomarillion and Reaper Bones stuff. I still find it a bit steep if your aim is to fill several Rooms an get enough doors for the whole dungeon, but i think I need to realize that its not possible to get much cheaper without scratch building everything yourself (Which I am not going to do).

While looking for my Bones Stuff I was Hit by an epiphany. Those are the cardboard Tiles:

(http://i.imgur.com/DVKvfpN.jpg?1)

They biggest Rooms are the same Size as the GW Movement Trays I am using

(http://i.imgur.com/JZQo4Ed.jpg?1)

Now I am contemplating to recreate that set in Plastic which would allow me to paint and pimp it myself. I can get 8 of those for around 27 Euroes /20 GBP/ 30 Dollars. together with my Spare Pieces here that would be enough to recreate the whole D&D Master Tile Box.

What do you Guys think of that idea?

Worth the effort?

Would it be that much of an upgrade in comparison to the cardboard?

Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Cherno on April 28, 2015, 08:03:13 PM
If you have a color printer, consider printing your own dungeon tiles, there  a literally throusands of free floorplans available and if you want to go one step further, go down the cardboard model route for furniture as well... doors, chests and tables are very easy to build, after all, and look good, and they cost next to nothing :)
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Cosmotiger on April 28, 2015, 08:42:55 PM
I would consider scratchbuilding. There's a lot that can be done do with things like clay (or greenstuff), balsa wood/basswood, wire, card/plastic sheets, foamcore, etc.  Since it's in a dungeon setting, it doesn't need to look perfect and mass-produced like a modern or sci-fi setting,
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Vermis on April 28, 2015, 08:55:40 PM
To spice Things up I would love to add some Dongeon furniture but most Things I had seen tended to be a tad expensive ...or I am simply to cheap ;P

Well, what have you seen already? My mind goes to Ral Partha and Fenris Games first.

http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/resin-scenery-c-57/
http://fenrisgames.com/shop#!/Fantasy-scenery/c/2202358/offset=0&sort=normal

Can't say what to do about the tiles and movement trays. It's something I'd consider myself, but then I might want to spend the money on extra furniture. Can you easily get your hands on some plasticard and a plastic scribe...?
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: wolfie907 on April 28, 2015, 10:29:28 PM
try here there will be quite a bit more after the kickstarter rewards go out and the new stuff goes into the store http://www.zealotminiatures.co.uk/
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: VoodooInk on April 29, 2015, 01:48:05 AM
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I am leaning toward Trap Door
+1 8)
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: magokiron on April 29, 2015, 02:21:20 AM
If you go for the "scratchbuit" road, I HIGHLY reccomend you the tutorials by Dungeon Master Scotty.

https://www.youtube.com/user/theDMsCraft

A lot to learn there.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: DeafNala on April 29, 2015, 12:55:12 PM
I agree with my friend, magokiron; i.e., the YouTube videos & DMsCraft site are a FINE sources of ideas & inspiration. Here's a link to the site:

http://dmscraft.proboards.com/

Have FUN with it all!
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Theatralic on April 29, 2015, 02:19:06 PM
First of all let me thank you all for getting back to me and helpimg me out, thats what one has to love and appreciate about this Place. Great fellas all around!  :)


If you have a color printer, consider printing your own dungeon tiles, there  a literally throusands of free floorplans available and if you want to go one step further, go down the cardboard model route for furniture as well... doors, chests and tables are very easy to build, after all, and look good, and they cost next to nothing :)

Thanks cherno, tried hat in the past for pseudo Space Hulk but didn`t quite like it.

Well, what have you seen already? My mind goes to Ral Partha and Fenris Games first.

http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/resin-scenery-c-57/
http://fenrisgames.com/shop#!/Fantasy-scenery/c/2202358/offset=0&sort=normal

Can't say what to do about the tiles and movement trays. It's something I'd consider myself, but then I might want to spend the money on extra furniture. Can you easily get your hands on some plasticard and a plastic scribe...?

Oh shiny, had all forgotten about Fenris (Ral Partha seems to be the same Stuff as Grendel.). Since I want to play some Strange Aeons as well I could pick some pieces here and there that could double in both Games. My thanks.

try here there will be quite a bit more after the kickstarter rewards go out and the new stuff goes into the store http://www.zealotminiatures.co.uk/

Thanks Wolfie, I keep them in mind and check back when more Kickstarter Stuff has arrived. Bookmarked.


+1 8)

Yeah being of a younger generation and not having grown up in a Gaming environment I missed the whole Dungeon Crawler Phase. Never played any Heroquest and their like which means I have no knowledge in that field. Gareth seems like a great bloke and has allways been fast to answer any questions. I love his Blog and the work he put into this so the choice seemed easy to support his Game.


I would consider scratchbuilding. There's a lot that can be done do with things like clay (or greenstuff), balsa wood/basswood, wire, card/plastic sheets, foamcore, etc.  Since it's in a dungeon setting, it doesn't need to look perfect and mass-produced like a modern or sci-fi setting,
If you go for the "scratchbuit" road, I HIGHLY reccomend you the tutorials by Dungeon Master Scotty.

https://www.youtube.com/user/theDMsCraft

A lot to learn there.

Hope that helps.
I agree with my friend, magokiron; i.e., the YouTube videos & DMsCraft site are a FINE sources of ideas & inspiration. Here's a link to the site:

http://dmscraft.proboards.com/

Have FUN with it all!


So, now to the whole scratchbuilding Part. I honestly must say that I avoid it like Hell since I know myself. I would rather paint something or play some Games since I lack the kind of Patience and Dedication needed for such an endeavor. And I do not particularly enjoy it.
Looking up Tutorials, searching and sourcing materials. The fact that I don`t have any Tools and my Hobby ADD doesn`t help. It felsl tedious.
Usually that means I would start something and after realizing how much effort needed I would drop everything and never touch it again, its a character flaw in that regard. Or after hours/days of work I would realized that it looked like crap :(.
 I have come to really appreciateThings that I can buy and use immediately after Painting. But then thats not the most effective way of doing Things if your fund are really limited.

Having said that: Forget it immediately. DMsCraft channel and Site are an amazing Inpiration: EVEN I CAN DO THAT. I have allready some Thoughts on how to change some of his Ideas to make them look more to my Liking (I dislike the look of painted Cardboard for example, i would prefer cork and cover it with some kind of roughcoat or strcuture paste).

I have really warmed up to my Movement Tray Idea. I really like working with Plastic and the fact that they have the right sized rectangles in Place (Again my Lazyness, i would never Scrape them from Hand into Plastic Sheet).
I think painting them would fit better with painted Minis than the bought D&D cardboard.

So I think I will mix up my approach, only buy Pieces that look really nice to me and built "boring" Stuff that I need a bigger quantity off (Doors/Gates) myself.

Thank you for pointing him out and all your Input. I am gonna do this :)

I hope that makes any sense.

cheers T
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Cherno on April 29, 2015, 08:07:20 PM
If you plan to use cork, check Matakishi's Tea House, he builds most of his buildings from cork. Lots of tutorials over there.
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Theatralic on April 29, 2015, 08:13:05 PM
Meinen besten Dank Cherno, appreciate the Heads up  :)!
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Theatralic on April 29, 2015, 08:58:06 PM
Feeling insanely motivated ...and procrastinating hard from other Stuff I should actually do I set out to collect Minis that could fit.

(http://i.imgur.com/tW2w9Vr.jpg?1)
Those will become my Adventurers, I will add a Mordheim Halfling Ranger and Female Dwarf Knight to round out the Crew. This gives me the means to experiment with each class and Race..and should look nice.
Kowig me it will probably take ages to paint anything...


When it comes to Antagonists I found my collection lacking. Being primarily a Warhammer Fantasy Gamer I have several Army Projects that never got far, in recent years I have dropped them all in favor of my Dwarf Army.
(http://i.imgur.com/TtapGs9.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ky5mMFv.jpg?1)

While those would give me a BUttload of Models to toss around, non of them are really speak to me, the fact that my older Paint Jobs are rather shoddy doesn`t help. Eventually I will start to hunt other Stuff. Crooked Claw and Alternative Armies have some lovely Kev Adam Goblin Sculpts I would love to get my Hands on. Reaper has some lovely Stuff as well and...the List is long
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: DeafNala on April 30, 2015, 01:15:20 PM
I can identify with the procrastination; lately the enthusiasm is there, but the motivation is elsewhere. That aside the new Shinies & the old painted pieces all look SPLENDID or potentially so. When the Spirit moves you, have FUN with them all!
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: Theatralic on May 01, 2015, 08:15:25 PM
Thanks Al, as allways your encourangement is more than welcome  :). I can`t imagine you procrastinating tho seing the amount of Stuff you put out  :D

I have found a 2nd Youtube channel , the DMGinfo, with some lovely Ideas I really appreciate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1PgQETtew&index=1&list=PLw-XImXo4zfOKxI_NWJpESKHiX71yyLXU

Some really good ideas in there that can be further tweeked, building a Cauldron out of a Ping Pong Ball is inspired. Really worth a look!. The painting does make me cringe sometimes, but then we are Miniature Painters, thats a different Focus I think and I tend to overagonize about every Brushstroke.

I am still perusing my Collection for anything that could fit, had all forgotten about my Confro Stuff and that Troll would be awesome. Next to it is one of the Albion giants, I had the whole set but sadly sold the other one and the Druid back in the Day. I regret it big Time. Also lost the Menhir :/.
This gives me some Heavy Gitters to slaught ..äh.. provide a sufficient challenge for the Adventurers  >:D

(http://i.imgur.com/F2nagkF.jpg?2)

I also bit the Bullet and bought, printed and bound the Trapdoor Rules.
I thinky they are really, realyl cool but my final verdict will come when I have some Games under my Belt. Still I would urge anyone interested in such Games to support that endeavor. 8 Dollar isn`t so much considering the amount of work that went in.

(http://i.imgur.com/gc8Ubp9.jpg?1)

Gareths Blog:
http://drumsdeep.blogspot.de/

And the the actual rules for download:
http://www.wargamevault.com/product/139366/Trapdoor

Cheers, can`t wait till I can finally show of some painted Minis but past Days the Weather has been awful for priming :/.
Title: Re: Theatralic dives into Dungeon crawlers..maybe
Post by: DeafNala on May 01, 2015, 10:44:57 PM
That One Eyed Confrontation Troll is UBERCOOL. I got to do one for my erstwhile friend, Frank; not the easiest of pieces to du, but enjoyable nonetheless. Have FUN with the Beasty!