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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Stuart on April 29, 2015, 09:42:35 AM
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I was itching to see what could be achieved with some sculpted additions to the light cavalry box. For me and I'm sure many others this has been a long and eagerly awaited release, in my case I've been hoping to create some early 1500's French Ordonnance archers and the first effort isn't too bad if I do say so myself !
To achieve the shape of the base coat skirt I had to glue the rider to the horse which may prove tricky when painting. I may try different ways of doing this but nothing springs to mind as yet.
Stuart
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Looks good :)
Could you sculpt part of a horse and saddle as a temporary figure mount when sculpting the figures?
cheers
James
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Good work Stuart :)
I could wish Michael would sculpt a few more different heads in soft caps though... ::)
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Excellent work Stuart :-* :-* :-*
You talented so and so ;) :)
Re: my comments about Procreate being less tacky at Salute? Well, I bought some more, as the other stuff was more then three years old and it was more tacky than usual but not as tacky as the older stuff- of course it could have been the mixing ratio that but I think I prefer the stuff that's three years old and probably going off!!
Darrell.
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Lovely work. Looking forward to seeing it with some paint on it. :D
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Neat looking conversion, look forward to seeing it in glorious colour.
I always paint cavalry with the rider in place, and rarely have difficulty painting them.
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Greate build Stuart !
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Nice work. :)
Plastic bits and metal horse - superglued? If you've glued it lightly enough is there a chance you could wiggle the bond loose and take the rider off intact, greenstuff and all? Could be a bit hairy, though.
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Beautiful as always. I can only imagine what wonders your fertile mind will produce from the new kit.
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Quick out the blocks Stuart !! - and looking excellent. Seems to fit well on the Foundry horse - which is better sized for cavalry who rode into battle.
Simon.
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Quick out the blocks Stuart !!
He is indeed!!
and looking excellent. Seems to fit well on the Foundry horse - which is better sized for cavalry who rode into battle.
Yeah, quite so. They mainly rode horses that were capable of walking! Seriously!! They had a completely different gait to modern horses and indeed the chargers of the same time period. Of course, I've forgotten the name of the said horses but I could look it up eventually when the garage of doom has been tackled!
Darrell.
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I agree with Phil - I always paint with the rider firmly glued in place. It provides for a tougher bond, as well as ensuring that the rider has the right "seat" before you put paint to figures. Sometimes it needs real care to paint and some re-touching but I prefer the result, and if one is a little worried about the possibility of bare metal/undercoat then a wash of Van Dyke brown into all the shadowy little places before you add the colour soon solves that problem.
Graham
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I like working with both rider and mount separately during the painting process. My answer is a bit old school. Whether plastic or metal I always drill and pin the rider to his mount. I only attach after painting. Minimizes the glue required but still creates a good bond.
Cheers,
Fred
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Thanks for your thoughts chaps.
I also drill and pin as I've found it easier to paint and a stronger bond though I will see how the single cast painting goes as there's some potential for time saving I reckon.
I'll re-post when he's coloured in and his companions currently on the workbench.
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very nice indeed
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I think we (I really mean "I" of course!) need a step-by-step with each conversion you do Stuart- have you no sense of social responsibility my man? lol
Darrell.
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I nearly did but got carried away sculpting :D
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I nearly did but got carried away sculpting :D
You tease! lol
Darrell.
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Well done! ;)
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Nice!
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Just received the army deal from Perry Miniatures in the post. Too much good stuff. The possibilities when mixed with their other box sets are awesome! 8)
Cheers,
Fred
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Just received the army deal from Perry Miniatures in the post. Too much good stuff. The possibilities when mixed with their other box sets are awesome! 8)
Cheers,
Fred
I know! They are such lovely models too!
I picked three boxes at up at Salute- I will never want for 'light' cavalry for Late Med. wargames ever again!! :D
Darrell.
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Bit of a wait but hopefully worth it. Completed conversion number one. I've got to make him some friends now.
I resisted the temptation to paint the figure in Tudor colours and stayed on message with my current burgeoning Louis XII French army. The figure represents an Ordonnance Archer which has proven to be a most difficult to interpret element of the French Lance of the early 1500's. I have some Coutilliers / Men at arms also as well as the Gendarme but that's the easy bit so I've left it until last.
Anyway, enjoy !
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Beautiful as always! And full of character. :) Looking forward to the others.
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He looks the biz 8)
cheers
James
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Excellent work Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Love it!!
Darrell.
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Very realistic effect, well done , I,ll look forward to seeing more of them.
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Here's no. 2, loosely based upon Durer's painting of St. Eustachius, quite pleased overall but I'm not sure about the right arm holding the spear, it's the best /most natural looking angle I can get with that arm as my sculpting hasn't advanced to puffed sleeves yet. Also not sure whether to paint it as a light lancer or as a standard bearer, or whether he looks French enough, a bit overly critical perhaps, thoughts?
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Found it !
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Very good :)
cheers
James
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Here's No. 3 in the series. I've gone for a base coat with short sleeves and a wide brimmed cloth cap. The head is a bald Ansar from the Sudan box with added hair.
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Fantastic! You are getting really good at this! :o
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Great Stuart.
Some of those ansar heads are very useful indeed :)
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Masterful stuff Stuart..... I think that this is the best conversion work apart from some that Paul Richardson had specially converted by someone for the Wars of Religion range!! And that is really a great compliment.
I reckon you could make it as a very successful sculptor Stuart.
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Darrell.
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Woo, that hat is on another level - do you really need to take any "professional advice"? (...You're going to show me up, aren't you!!)
;) ;) ;)
Really great conversion Stuart, I'm in awe.
Simon.
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Really great conversion Stuart, I'm in awe.
You're not alone Simon, the man is a natural :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Lovely conversions in this thread. And I know the painting's going to be aces.
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Well thought out and executed conversions, its'a look'a very nice'a.
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Completed Ordonnance Archer c. 1500-1520
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Very good indeed :-* :-*
Love the face 8)
cheers
James
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Marvellous! He looks a bit not-safe-for-riding, though. o_o
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Low pay and a threat of death at the end of a lance would push anyone to drink ! ::)
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Your really bringing the best out from that range with your ever improving sculpting technique.
Well done!
I think in the end your French will well surpass the English in period look and quality.
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Not unless I start em again hahahaha! Now that would be masochism
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Absolutely lovely Stuart.... superlatives fail me!
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Darrell.
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Ante has been upped I think, feels like I've increased my skills a bit.
Anyways, this trumpeter is based upon Flemish and German influence. Another Ansar head, I was about to sculpt hair and a cap but thought he could be interesting as a moor perhaps? thoughts?
Henry VIII & James IV had moorish musicians, I'm assuming they were imitating courts of the continent though I don't think I've noticed them mentioned or illustrated in French sources ( this chap is destined to accompany some Gendarmes).
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Very clean sculpting 8)
How about giving him a turban (or whatever you call the large wraps of cloth around the heads of moors) :)
cheers
James
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Lovely work there, really improving on sculpting cloth. I like the head bare, but also a turban would look nice with ostrich feathers or something.
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Very good work here, both sculpting and painting.
As always ! :D
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Simply excellent work Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
The folds in the clothing are brilliant. 8) 8) 8)
If Henry VIII employed Moors as musicians in imitation of Continental practice, would they have been sans hat? I don't know about Henry VIII's times but as far as the Battle of Bosworth it was seen as extremely impolite for a male (or female) not to be wearing headgear of some description.
I reckon you should gibe sculpting from scratch a go quite soon if not now :)
Darrell.
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I'm going to go with turban and cloth cap, stay tuned
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I'm going to go with turban and cloth cap, stay tuned
I'm tuned :)
Darrell.
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Brill :)
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And we're done.
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Nice one.
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Almost forgot the plume !
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Marvellous! Each of your pieces. :)
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Bit of a hiatus but here's the completed trumpeter
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Superb. Sorry, no more words, this is bordering art. :-*
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Wonderfully executed in both the putty and painting departments Stuart!!
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Darrell.
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Another wonderful conversion Stuart :-*
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Most excellent :-* :-*
cheers
James
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The only thing to say, is that it's always cool to see some update on this thread : once again, wonderful work ! :-*
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Another work of art Stuart.
Brilliant conversion and putty work, lovely painting - but the addition I love most are the gauntlets hanging on the saddle (why haven't I thought of that !! Argh!).
C'est fantastique.
Simon.
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Another work of art Stuart.
Brilliant conversion and putty work, lovely painting - but the addition I love most are the gauntlets hanging on the saddle (why haven't I thought of that !! Argh!).
C'est fantastique.
Simon.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Those gauntlets are such a wonderful touch.
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stunning!
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Brilliant!! :-* :-*
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the addition I love most are the gauntlets hanging on the saddle (why haven't I thought of that !! Argh!).
lol
I thought the same thing.
(Then I thought 'I am so nicking that idea!' :D)
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So pretty, so very pretty! :-*
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Here's the inspiration for the gauntlets
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Here's the inspiration for the gauntlets
Excellent source 8).
Could you tell, us all where is it from Stuart please?
Darrell.
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I'm so good to you;
http://musee-renaissance.fr/objet/tenture-de-david-et-bethsabee-armee-de-david-detail (http://musee-renaissance.fr/objet/tenture-de-david-et-bethsabee-armee-de-david-detail)
There's a book on the tapestry available from the museum site and/or amazon
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I'm so good to you;
You are and you should know it's very much appreciated. :)
The book you suggested re: Flodden arrived the other day and is a bit of a goldmine 8) 8) 8)
http://musee-renaissance.fr/objet/tenture-de-david-et-bethsabee-armee-de-david-detail (http://musee-renaissance.fr/objet/tenture-de-david-et-bethsabee-armee-de-david-detail)[
There's a book on the tapestry available from the museum site and/or amazon
Thanks Stuart, if it's not to steep I'll check out Amazon and buy a copy. Always nice and useful to have it on one's bookshelf, I tend to lose things on my laptop! :)
Darrell.
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Great work once again Stuart, your sculpting skills are growing leaps and bounds. Definite eye-candy. 8)
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Good grief ... this thread is inspiration in buckets.
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Awesome GS and paint work on that trumpeter :-*
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Hello,
Superbe job on this trumpeter (painting and conversion) !!! :-* :-*
I'm impressed by all your work about late medieval period/beginning of the Renaissance !!!
Nikko
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I've changed the thread title as I'm picky like that :)
Here's the latest, a French / Swiss crossbowman 1500-1515
Once again hours of toil on a lovely codpiece are obscured but I had fun !
Thanks for looking
Stuart
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I do so love to see your work it is some thing I would love to be able to do is play around with green stuff you do and get something that looks
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Very nice Stuart. That's a great hipster beard ;)
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Now that is what I would call very confident converting work Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Beautifully done- I love the superbly executed details.
Darrell.
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Lovely stuff Stuart .... As always
Is this going to be a 48 man unit? ..... :D
All the best. Aly
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Ha ! Of course, I don't need to go to work :D
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Ha ! Of course, I don't need to go to work :D
Yeah, lazy ;) :)
Darrell.
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Very nice!
8) 8)
Very nice Stuart. That's a great hipster beard ;)
It sure is.
I bet he loves a craft beer.
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French crossbowman 1500-1525
Getting the hang of base coats now
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Hold on to your craft beers I coloured him in !
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Hold on to your craft beers I coloured him in !
Tres beau :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooh - that's very nice, Stuart. he works a treat :-*
Right, I'm off to start adding beards to mine! ;)
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Looking through this post I am ready to pack up my tools and brushes. Anything I do is amateur hour in comparison, my Italian Wars figs will be packed away in shame! :)
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Just read this thread all through.
I am seriously impressed by your sculpting skills and your panting as well.
chapeau!
Cheers
GS
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Just read this thread all through.
I am seriously impressed by your sculpting skills and your panting as well.
chapeau!
Cheers
GS
You're not alone GS!! :)
Darrell.
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I simply love your painting style! It has something of old oilpaintings on canvas, works great for the topic! ;D
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It has been an age since I visited the forum.
Having not picked up a brush in over a year, my attentions in life have been elsewhere.
But.
A few minutes admiring your work again is pushing up the stairs to the dusty painting erie.
Superb as ever.
You take creating and painting toy soldiers to a whole different level.
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Glad to help, I frequently have lows in inspiration and LAF is generally the remedy
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It has been an age since I visited the forum.
Having not picked up a brush in over a year, my attentions in life have been elsewhere.
But.
A few minutes admiring your work again is pushing up the stairs to the dusty painting erie.
Well that's great news :)
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Did this one a while ago and just got round to painting him, the cod piece and arms I've done better since but he's still OK.
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Nice mate :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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I have be looking over all of yours and Captain Blood's posts.
Excellent work, some of the best painting one could wish to see.
So I went and ordered some Perry's to paint.
The ordering was ez, now painting them might be a little tougher.
Thank you both for sharing your talents.
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Another great little character Stuart.
Marine0846, persevere with those Perry figures. You'll find them addictive once you've built a few 8)
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These two have taken a while to get to a stage of satisfaction. First up a rather dandy looking crossbowman in a base coat with slashed sleeves and wide brimmed plumes hat.
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Next a light cavalryman, I'll probably use him as a standard bearer. It may not look that hard but the arms were an absolute arse to get right ! I think this is attempt no. 6. Each slash is sculpted seperately and manipulated to the right angle and drop of the cloth. It took a while to get this right. I originally started with adding green stuff then cutting the slashed bits away but it was too heavy and clumsy. This way have a much more convincing feel and has some body to it.
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Very pleased with him though, I'm no expert but I don't think sleeves like this would be possible or rather could be very difficult to cast effectively. It's great to be able to achieve individuality in this way.
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très bien mon ami
bonne chance...Aly
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nice work on those sleeves :)
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Thats fantastic work on the slashing of the sleeves (...sounds like a medieval traditional event! :D)
Well worth the effort to get that look - doubt if it would be cast like that?
Simon.
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Very well done :-*
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Excellent work Stuart :-* :-*
cheers
James
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No real idea of what I'm doing but I'm having a go, torso almost done, legs in progress.
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Brave man :o
I've often thought about it, and had a few half-hearted attempts. But have never managed to get the flipping armature right.
I shall be following with interest! :)
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You never know till you try :)
cheers
James
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I expressed an interest and Alan gave me the armature, it's been a challenge sitting on my painting desk and practically staring at me with it's wiry eyes for a few months.
Armature, and heads are going to be tough ???
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I'm liking what I see - go that pioneer!
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Stuart ...
The trouble is that Alan ( and Michael ) make this look all to easy.....
He probably made a couple of cavalry masters with his feet while he was showing you how to do the armature ... :?
Take your time ... And most of all have fun.
All the best. Aly
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Cheers Aly, I've had more fun adding stuff to existing models as the results are a bit quicker, and pretty good as they've done the hard work for me !
but I do like a challenge and what's an army without a hideously deformed monster to terrify the enemy with lol
Ps Michael just makes the tea, I've seen it, he's actually really into quilting
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It looks fine, stop whining and get on with it... ::)
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Actually I admire your bravery, not only attempting the sculpt, but for broadcasting your efforts here. So far it is actually looking quite good... I imagine the hardest part will be the face. Still you've a few of us cheering you on and I don't suppose anyone ever got it 100% first time; practice really does make perfect.
:)
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Stuart, it look damn good from where I'm sitting mate :-*
Please keep posting and please add the odd methodological script for us all to (hopefully!) copy! :)
Darrell.
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Your really coming on now, you will find once you crack it you will get faster and faster at completing sculpts.
Do you have a small rubber colour shaper as grey stuff does not stick to them.
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Hi Stuart
wow, you are brave! :o The twins certainly made it look easy, I look forward to seeing your results.
I'm hoping to paint the conversions i did that weekend very soon, as they keep staring at me....
cheers
Steve
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Hmmm might be a while, though I am looking forward to that horse barding of yours ;)
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Only just found this thread, I'd been following your progress with greenstuff over on Pinterest without realising you were posting here as well. Nice to see you are having a go at creating your own figure. I have total confidence that it will be a success. Big question is will you actually go the next step and start casting up your efforts and sell them on to plebs like me?
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A bit mid-project but here's an early WIP on some GS work to bring the Perry WOTR artillery crew into the 1500's
Stuart
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Love all those conversions and the actual sculpt is coming along nicely.
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And the best thing about all this, of course, is that the finished product really is your own.
8) 8)
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Excellent - you've 'aged' them just right! Great head swops and GS work...
Simon.
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Perfect conversions Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
There's a dearth of Spanish Artillery crew available- just one set from TAG so...... idea nicked!! :D (Just hope I have the skill!!)
Cheers,
Darrell.
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Great conversions Stuart.
What a start to the New Year. Start as you mean to go on :D
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Great conversion work and painting, bravo! :o
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Worked to completion; some slashing, a Bishop's mantle and heavy sleeved doublet.
Renaissance-ified but not too overstated, just right for the French look I was hoping for - I hope !
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Nice.
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Just admit it, you are hooked on this now, aren't you?
You cannot help looking at figures and thinking 'I could just change that bit....'
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Renaissance-ified but not too overstated, just right for the French look I was hoping for - I hope !
Wot? Where's the string of onions then (...can't you do them in 28mm)? ;)
Lovely conversions!
Simon.
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Erm.... words fail......
.....have you ever considered asking for a job at Perry Towers?
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Just brilliant!
Darrell.
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Most excellent! :-*
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First two to be coloured in
The Master Gunner had GS mutton chops added along with slashed breeches.
Really pleased with the kneeling chap
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Wonderful as always, sir.
The Master Gunner had GS mutton chops added along with slashed breeches.
Were mutton chops common during this period? I can't recall seeing them in contemporary artwork.
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This was my inspiration, fifer on the right
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And this, obviously lol
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He actually used to be a gunner... he was gunner reform Slade and they woz gunner tour again. lol
Great work on the figures, really outstanding. :)
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I'm thoroughly enjoying following this thread, your work is an inspiration.
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Beauties Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Awesome work Stuart :-*
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Excellent as always but that standing chap in the blue is amazing, he looks like he stepped out of a tapestry.
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Splendid work :-* :-*
cheers
James
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Wow, very great paintings.
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Dang those are brilliant! :-*
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2 more gunners, I attempted an oilskin type jacket which I'm quite pleased with - and the GS work obviously
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Love the oilskin jacket
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Oilskin is brilliant.
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Really nice- as inspirational as ever!
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It's amazing how much a Darkest Africa game can inspire lol. Well done with getting back to the brushes it's always a pleasure to see any of your work.
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More great work Stuart :)
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lol I know, thanks both, I've had a veritable peak in productivity
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Another pair of great looking figures.
Best Iain
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This is absolutly inspiring... :-*
You are a true master of the green stuff...;)
Cheers,
Don
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Great stuff Stuart. They look brill.
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First gun and crew complete.
More pics over on my blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/french-light-couleuvrine-crew.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/french-light-couleuvrine-crew.html)
Stuart
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I really like the way the slashed sleeves on the kneeling figure came out. How is you sculpt going?
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Me too, he's my favourite of the four and not that hard to do. I'm modernising a breastplate from one of the gunners, 2nd attempt so far. That and being in two minds whether to redo an arm on another gunner is making for slow progress but it helps the learning curve :)
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Ruddy gorgeous Stuart. You have (once again) excelled yourself :)
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Lovely work on those Stuart,they look a treat based up too. :)
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First gun and crew complete.
Well done on the gun and the crew, Stuart, and very nicely photographed.
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Lovely looking renaissance gun crew
Best Iain
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Second all the above compliments. You're sculpting is now at a very high level and your painting as always been up there.
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After numerous mediocre attempts I've finally cracked a decent looking base coat. More in progress, watch this space.
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Excellent!
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Nice work on that mini Stuart,how many left before you have a unit ? :D
Cheers
Keith
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Nice basecoat - and the hat ain't half bad either!
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Fantastic conversions, you've really mastered the way different materials hang and fold.
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very very good work!!!
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Nice work on that mini Stuart,how many left before you have a unit ? :D
Cheers
Keith
I'm re-basing existing figures and intermingling new sculpts with base coats so hopefully I'll have the first unit quite soon.
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I'm re-basing existing figures and intermingling new sculpts with base coats so hopefully I'll have the first unit quite soon.
Ok mate,will look forward to seeing those. :)
Cheers
Keith
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No. 2
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That is some beautiful work, both the conversion and the painting. :-* :)
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Man, that's good...
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Bang tidy mate :)
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So good!
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No. 3,
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Hello,
So beautiful !!! :-*
Nikko
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Foot knight in livery.
I've made an effort to differentiate the skirt of the coat from that of the infantry by sculpting deeper and greater folds to show the amount and depth of rich material used in contrast to the wool of the lower class foot uniform.
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Gobsmackingly impressive! :o
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Another one-off gem Stuart!!
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It's taken me a while to get to this point in sculpting a reasonably convincing coat, the hardest part of which I've found to be the skirt. If you look back through this thread you'll see that development.
How to do it just comes down to practice but I've found a couple of tricks along the way which I shall share as follows.
Here I'm working on the back half of a skirt having already done the front. It's not really possible to sculpt the entire front and back without obscuring and smudging detail as you go so I do it this way.
I've prepared the figure by filling in the gap from the rump of the figure down to the knees so there's a flat edge for the GS to adhere to rather than a void to fill then sculpt in one go. I then started by rolling some green stuff (GS) to the rough shape required then pushing it up to the belt line and to each side where it joins the already sculpted front.
It's really important to get this part right, move the GS around to the depth and length that you require. I use a wax 5 tool for most of the sculpting I've attempted. For this part, get a bit of moisture on the tool with a very small amount of liquid paraffin cream, this will make moving the GS easier and faster. I put a little on my hand and take more from there as I need it.
To get this shape I use the flat of the blade and push the GS down from the top and out to give a slight bow from the middle to the bottom, don't use too much pressure and work in a series of motions from one side to the other, checking from the sides as you go, you want a good curve or half bell shape. It's important to get the depth right as this will dictate how deep the folds will be.
When you're happy with the starting shape cut off any excess from the bottom, I use a Stanley blade.
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I've made an effort to differentiate the skirt of the coat from that of the infantry by sculpting deeper and greater folds to show the amount and depth of rich material used in contrast to the wool of the lower class foot uniform.
A pedant after my own heart. lol
The practise paid dividends, I'd say. Very impressive work. (And the painting!) Apologies for not going back over the whole topic, but have you sculpted any full figures?
(Oop. And sorry for interrupting the flow)
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To start the folds I use a tool from a dental scaling kit. I've no idea what it's called but you can get a basic kit quite easily.
I previously used the edge of the wax 5 to create deep folds but this works better as it gives a more linear and gentler starting point.
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Now use the wax 5 tool to develop the folds. It's difficult to describe but I work on each fold by gently pushing it from the top in a left to right motion, first from one side then the other to build a 3D half pipe shape which is tapered at the top.
Then extend this wave into the next fold and so on.
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When working on these 'Waves' you can impart movement or hang of the material depending on the gait or stance of the figure.
Also as you near completion flatten the bottom of each fold from the underside to create a cut off, this will also push a little body from the bottom and make the fold a bit more pronounced.
When you're happy with the folds add a little Nick or gentle line from the top of each fold about one third down to imitate the pull of material where The pleat is sewn to the belt line.
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Front and side
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Here's the rear view of the painted figure above. It is in a more active pose so I have sculpted the skirt to hang in the stance / lean of the figure.
Once the skirt was done I then added a little GS on the front and back from the hem up. On the back here I have squared off the neck line and put a join in the middle back where the jacket parts were sewn together.
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Vermis I have attempted to but not with any meaningful result. I find this way gives me a ready made and proportioned dolly to add to.
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A little off-topic, but perhaps quite relevant regarding this particular period is the excellent novel (well, series actually) is C.J. Sansom's 'Heartstone' where part of the novel covers the sinking of Henry VIII's flagship (?) Mary Rose which was loaded to the brim with troops - particularly longbowmen. Now, in the novel, Sansom goes into considerable detail (after his usual meticulous research) on the army of Henry VIII - particularly in the área of their weaponry, training and day-to-day life. Personally, since reading this particular book, i've always had an urge to do something in this period. Probably why your work is so inspiring! Keep 'em coming! :)
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Lovely conversions and great painting. Keep up the good work.
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I love the Yeomen of the Guard. Apparently one of my ancestors was one of the Guards of Henry VIII. Only reason we know this was because the got titled 'Sir' and was given a house and pension after saving this Henry's life. It wasn't any thing to glamorous I am afraid. King was drunk and feel into a stream an almost drowned. Edmond Moody used his pole to jump across the stream and drag the Royal person out. lol
Of course I my family is very much removed from any person of that might own any clime to the title, but I thought it was a good read when I found out about it. Ether way, would be an excuse for me to make some Yeomen and maybe even A young up in comer with the Family coat of arms.
And thank you for the book idea Jim Rae, I will have to check out Mr. C.J. Sansom's 'Heartstone' series of books.
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Commissarmoody, the series is within the Shardlake series.
Here's the link to the (essentially correct) Wikipedia entry for Sansom:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._J._Sansom
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I knew I recognized the name, reading Dominion along with a few other books at the moment.
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Do you think the WoTR figures can be converted for mid-late 16th century?
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Do you think the WoTR figures can be converted for mid-late 16th century?
Curiously enough, I had a similar conversation today and although there would be some heavy modification invoved, I can't see why not....
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I knew I recognized the name, reading Dominion along with a few other books at the moment.
Commissar - the first 'Dissolution' is a bit rough around the edges (Sansom's first novel) but they steadily improve from there. They give a great feel for life in Henrician London with the increasing concern that what it was okay to believe last week may get you executed this week. They are murder mystery type books more than anything else.
Aplogies for going off topic. That is super sculpting Stuart.
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Cheers and by no means am I trying to derail the topic ether.
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No problem at all. I also recommend The Winter King and The Last White Rose, both factual but written very well.
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So many books, never enough time to read.
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Do you think the WoTR figures can be converted for mid-late 16th century?
I would say not.
If you look at the Foundry Sea Dogs range as a good example of late Tudor (kind of Armada era, say 1580 - 1600) fashion in wardrobe styles, never mind arms and equipment has moved on fairly radically from the 1460s-1470s 'Peak WOTR' era. A very different look altogether.
WOTR is really still medieval world.
Elizabethan Tudor is early modern. Rather more in common with early ECW than late WOTR, wardrobe and arms and equipment-wise.
Lovely figures by the way, Stuart :)
(PS. Personally, I hate the Shardlake series. Boring, repetitive, and too many mistakes. I gave up buying the after the third one... )
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Above walkthrough complete.
This chap will be a standard bearer so I'll shorten the spear but thought I'd also demonstrate a Scottish pikeman in the front rank at Flodden.
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Love it - perfect for GoT too..... Can just imagine a unit of these as Lannisters.... (my apologies! ;))
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Excellent work there Stuart
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Another Standard bearer
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Fabulous figures , spot on as always, what set do the hands on the last figure come from? To me they seem larger than the other hands, or maybe it's just the angle of the photo. Glad to see more of your 16th century conversions of the Perry wotr chaps.
Best Iain
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Very good green-stuff work. well done :)
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Thanks both, Iain they're from the foot knights command sprue. I'll post a painted photograph soon.
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I coloured him in
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Lovely :-* :-*
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So good!
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Really very good, got to love that green and white colour scheme on a great conversion.
Best Iain
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Possibly my favourite so far
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Will these guys also work for the "Rough Wooing" and Henry's 2nd war with France?
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Not really no, the base coat was a feature of the early Tudor period up until around 1525 after which the uniform jackets are shorter.
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Here are two near contemporary studies, 1513 & 1544 the main difference being that the coat extends to or slightly further than the knee in the earlier period.
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Thank you for the images
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This chap looks a bit like a sailor but hey ho.
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Oooh he looks great, Stuart :)
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In colour
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I am continuously amazed at how you've achieved a uniform yet unique look for each of your figures. I understand why this one is a favourite - a lot of character and a very well sculpted coat. Thank you so much for the inspiration!
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Lovely work as usual Stuart, how many before you have a unit?
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Just another 2 :D
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Can't wait to see them all based up :)
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My sensible head is telling me to sculpt and paint a few more than I need for the first base to pick the best variety but it's also tempting to just base the first 6.
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Wonderful, as always. Stuart, you are the very spirit of the age.
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Stunning job Stuart,as usual. :)
Cheers
Keith
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Latest sculpt painted, those Ansar heads are becoming a firm favourite
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Onward to the next, conscious of ensuring a mix of sallets
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Splendid continuation of a great project :-* :-*
cheers
James
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Lovely work, I can't wait to see them all based up and ready for battle :-*
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More awesomeness :-*
Cheers
Keith
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It's just amazing how you get such effects on such a small canvas. Bravo.
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Splendid looking chaps - fantastic work on the face!
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Only one more to go until the first unit :)
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A Dorset a Dorset !
(Marquis of Dorset)
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Lovely painting - that standard is sublime.
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Marvellous :-*
Cheers
Keith
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Final sculpt for this unit, a Moorish standard bearer.
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Oh, very good. :)
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woo - great pose and conversion.
Is he based on historical evidence? For your French I assume?
Simon
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More awesomeness!!
I love the painting on the Tudors - the latest conversion (or should we call it a sculpt?) looks very promising
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Loosely with a bit of artistic license Simon, for my Tudors, Henry used Moors as musicians in the early part of his reign no doubt influenced by Catherine of Aragon. Also the leader of this unit, Thomas Grey, campaigned in Spain, hopefully see more soon.
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You've done great work in this thread. :)
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Loosely with a bit of artistic license Simon, for my Tudors, Henry used Moors as musicians in the early part of his reign no doubt influenced by Catherine of Aragon. Also the leader of this unit, Thomas Grey, campaigned in Spain, hopefully see more soon.
I remember reading something, a while ago... I think it was this article (http://www.historyextra.com/feature/missing-tudors-black-people-16th-century-england) when it was printed in the magazine. African people in Tudor Britain isn't an uncommon subject when you google for other sites.
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Done. Gotta love complex Tudor heraldry
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I dunno, it looks frightening to me. But brilliantly done. :)
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Fabulous painting. :-* :-* :-*
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Great stuff Stuart :-*
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Sublime.
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Stunning work again Stuart,can't wait to see these "in the flesh" so to speak lol.
Cheers
Keith
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What Romark said :-*
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Done and ready to do battle
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Fantastic work - very well done :-*
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I can't find words to express adequately what I'd like to say... they do indeed look like I would expect them to though, in all respects. Top work!
:)
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Most inspired! :D
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Wow. What a splendid work of art and modelling prowess. Love 'em :-*
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Marvellous,a treat for the eyes ! :-*
Cheers
Keith
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Excellent stuff. I really like your painting style. A really inspiring work.
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Love 'em - looking forward to close up inspection this weekend!!
Simon.
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Stunning work as usual Stuart
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Proper bloody gorgeous!
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Absolutely magnificent :o
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Superb! :-* - care to share your flesh recipe / technique (assuming you've not done so already)?
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Too good :D
cheers
James
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One runs out of superlatives :-*
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Simply beautiful. Words don't do justice.
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Tremendous. It looks like you have moved to "big basing" too. In the past when I've enjoyed your blog your figures have been based on smaller stands.
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Incredible conversion skill with superb brushwork! :o :-*
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Brilliant! :o Once again I suggest it is time you give up your day job and start producing these figures for sale. I can not believe that you wouldn't find an eager market fr your work.
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Superb! :-* - care to share your flesh recipe / technique (assuming you've not done so already)?
He has a fantastic blog about how to paint Landsknechts, big fan here.
http://paintinglandsknechts.blogspot.com.es/search/label/Painting%20Faces
Regards.
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Talking of Landsknechts wasn't warlord supposed to release multiple part versions this year?
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what an absolutely great looking unit :D
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It's lovely to watch such a fine project reach its conclusion. 8)
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Thanks all, very much indeed, it's been a long process to this result.
I don't think I'll be sculpting on anything other than my own collection, I sculpt on to existing Perry figures and like kit bashing and sculpting to see what I can create, the sculpting being an extension of that.
This thread has demonstrated a line from fairly crude experiments to some with more convincing results (I think), I guess as much as I use it to value critique and encouragement I wanted to show that a bit of sculpting can add an extra level of detail with not necessarily that much effort.
I hope it's inspired a few to take the plunge or to paint some obscure early renaissance types. I love LAF, always good for inspiration and glad to contribute in my own way.
Rambled a bit there, anyway, Thanks again :)
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Tee end results are beautiful. I really enjoy your works. Cheers!
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these are plain gorgeous :-* :-*
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Talking of Landsknechts wasn't warlord supposed to release multiple part versions this year?
Maybe...
Unless one's looking to augment a WFB Empire army, it's best to avoid these former Pro-Gloria figures.
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Maybe...
Unless one's looking to augment a WFB Empire army, it's best to avoid these former Pro-Gloria figures.
I take it they fall on the larger side then. :D
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A marvellous project completed and shown to our commuity. Thanks for sharing!
Cheers
GS
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Done and ready to do battle
Bloomin' stunning Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell
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That is an excellent unit!
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My Green Stuff adventures have turned to casualty markers.
I've had these warbases dial casualty markers for quite a while now and never done anything with them - not gaming that often probably didn't help but not anymore.
I think i'll try and get into the habit of doing one of these for every unit that I complete.
All figures are from the Sudan Ansar box with various WOTR, Foot Knights & Mercenaries arms added, I think there's even a WW2 one in there too.
First up, we have a Tudor and a French casualty
The Tudor Longbowman has come off worse from a fight with an unknown assailant, his sword broken and a rather nasty open fracture on the foot he pleads with the attacker - or judging by the expression perhaps wills on the coup de grace.
Accompanying him is a French Arquebusier sporting a heavy blow across the face, writhing in agony he clutches his rosary beads in acceptance of his fate.
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Next up a Tudor Billman at the wrong end of a crossbow bolt
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Finally, a French foot officer with a fine plumed hat and sash reaches out with his last gaze at a missed objective or perhaps reaching for a weapon
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Wow excellent, you've clearly given this a lot of thought and I can't wait to see them painted up :-*
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They are excellent Stuart - amazing how versatile the other out-of-period plastics can be - with your talented putty work added!
Love the facial expressions, which do add to the drama...
Simon.
Working on mine, which I'll show when all painted up ;)
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Nice work, all very well posed.
I especially like the idea of the loose shoe.
8)
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Very nice indeed :)
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I was going to use the word nice, to describe these, but they are far to evocative of pain and death for that.
But they are very good, and highly effective. They make the big dials much more terrain rather than just a marker.
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3 crew converted from the two available Perry WOTR culverin packs.
left to right the chap with the breech was perhaps the simplest conversion; I added GS to his arms to give more voluminous sleeves typical of the early 1500's and did a head swap from a Wargames Foundry Landsknecht (also Perry sculpted), he wears the red & yellow livery of Louis XII.
The master gunner wears a woollen base coat in national colours, the base coat was added after the figure was prepared; I filed away about 1-2mm off the torso and created a GS fill between the legs, allowed it to dry and then sculpted the coat on top. The filing / cutting in the gap between the arms and body was quite fiddly but I think it's turned out OK.
Finally, the chap with the sponge was perhaps the most difficult sculpt, the puffed sleeves are quite hard to get right in terms of how much volume there is in the material and how much I can emphasise the fold in each pull of material. The head is a plastic Ansar head with added GS cloth hat - get yourself a box, they're a must have !
I also built up the breastplate a bit and altered it to look like a maximilian style breast plate in the latest fashion.
So, a small crew of chaps with some money spent on them by their lord to fire guns at unsuspecting Tudors.
Stuart
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They are superb!!!
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Very nicely done again Stuart. The casualties are really great too - you talented swine, you! :D
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Suberb! I'm not sure which I like more, your conversion work or brushwork. :-*
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Usual brilliance with the old putty matey :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Darrell.
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Both light guns are complete and on the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/french-light-artillery-crew.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/french-light-artillery-crew.html)
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Another Casualty marker, having knocked him to the ground, a Tudor billman kneels on his opponent pushing his head forward to expose the neck to a finishing sword thrust.
Really pleased with this one, I had a go at a bellows visor and I've cracked how to sculpt belts (which can't really be seen here, doh !)
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Beautiful work, I do love a good casualty figure and you have created some lovely touches with these sculpts. Not quite so much a fan of the thick counter bases though, but that's just personal preference.
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very nice indeed :-*
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More great work Stuart :-*
Cheers
Keith
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One runs out of superlatives :-*
Me too ! ;D
Great conversion work on your casulaties markers
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7528/27792300105_dea174707a_n.jpg)
Cheers
Eric
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WOW just inspiring work. :o
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Another Casualty marker, having knocked him to the ground, a Tudor billman kneels on his opponent pushing his head forward to expose the neck to a finishing sword thrust.
Ouch. Nicely done as always, though.
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Working on creating a Tudor gun crew using the WOTR, Confederate artillery & Ansar plastic kits, here's the Master Gunner.
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Cracking work as always Stuart 8) 8) 8)
cheers
James
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Working on creating a Tudor gun crew using the WOTR, Confederate artillery & Ansar plastic kits, here's the Master Gunner.
Ok Stuart,I see, the game is ,spot the parts lol
I'll kick it off,the head is from the Ansar set lol
Seriously though,more great sculpting on that mini :)
Cheers
Keith
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Bearing a passing resemblance to your good self Keith !
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Nice, I really should get me some of those ansar warriors, should give good bits for both my ancients and TYW armies.
I guess the arms are from the ACW and the torso and legs from WotR parts?
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Yep, most of the ACW arms in the artillery box are of some use
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Bearing a passing resemblance to your good self Keith !
Lol,you're obviously referring to the hat and hair style Stuart ;)
Cheers
Keith
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Casualty markers are all painted up and on display over on the blog
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/casualty-markers.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/casualty-markers.html)
Thanks for looking
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All good stuff Stuart,enjoyed the reasoning behind each sculpt over on your blog,well done. :-*
Cheers
Keith
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Lovely :)
Painting of course, not the fact he's dead lol
cheers
James
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The casualty markers are outstanding - well done :-*
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Stunning work 8) 8) :o 8) 8)
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the markers are really great
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I've just found this thread. I have to say that I can't think of any work - sculpting or painting - which has impressed me more. This is just stunning. The conversions are like works of art.
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Tudor Organ guns and bespoke gunners now on the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/tudor-organ-guns.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/tudor-organ-guns.html)
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Bloody brilliant Stuart :-*
The halberdier and his luggage is my particular favourite. What a brilliant character you have created there 8)
Top work.
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That's a lovely scene :-* :-*
cheers
James
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Stunning Stuart - thats is all...!!
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More really great work - both the builds and the painting. Great stuff really full of character.
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Very nice work as usual. Would it be a good idea to blacken the inside of the bronze barrels? They seem a bit shiny, I assume they would be blackened by repeated firing?
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Well spotted, I shall rectify that thanks :D
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Gorgeous work as usual. Are you doing the carts for them as well?
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Thanks very much, carts are something the army lacks, must get that rectified at some point.
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This is just an amazing thread. All this greenstuff work is simply superb... :-*
Cheers,
Don
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Fantastic 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Really pleased with this batch.
More photographs and narrative on the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/wip-french-infantry-conversions.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/wip-french-infantry-conversions.html)
Let me know what you think - are these chaps suitably Gallic?
Stuart
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Flipping eck :o it's your best work yet :-*
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Lovely ruffles and slashes.
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Fantastic conversions. Definitely Gallic.
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Excellent work.
Perhaps a string of onions or garlic? Or perhaps not...
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More impressive putty pushing Stuart,love 'em :-*
Cheers
Keith
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Very nice.
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this gets better and better
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Another 3
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They look really nice, I'm always amazed by your skill in transforming these plastic pieces. Can't wait to see them painted.
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Really like them - well done!
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Wonderful conversions - love the way the cloth and hats sit so convincingly.
Simon.
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Your sculpting just gets better and better, clearly not gaming enough >:D lol
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Excellent work!! I like to think I'm a pretty good painter, but when it comes to working with green stuff......
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Your green stuff sculpting leaves me agog (and decidedly jealous - how wonderful to be that talented).
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More impressive work Start :)
Cheers
Keith
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The latest project, Tudor Pikemen;
More on the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/work-in-progress-tudor-pike.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/work-in-progress-tudor-pike.html)
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Ooo, they look good 8)
cheers
James
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These look tremendous.
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Brilliant, have you ever had a go at building something up from scratch on a dollie? I reckon you must be getting to that stage now with your sculpting. My only criticism is that your not painting these fast enough ;)
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Superb! Very impressive work.
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Excellent Stuart.
Did you have fun designing the different codpieces? :D
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Love 'em :-* :-*
Now,how do we get these into Lion Rampant games ;)
Cheers
Keith
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Those are excellent stuart :o
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Excellent work as always. Is that your first fully sculpted face on 2nd left? It looks impressive.
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I wish, sadly not, it's a press mould along with the armour.
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Wow they're awesome!!!
any tips on how to sculpt the plate amror?
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This is highly impressive. Great work.
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Still each item artwork
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Stuart: please forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by a 'press mould'?
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Press moulded or not you have still applied the armour in a very convincing way which is a mark of talent and good perspective as many pro sculptors have trouble getting things to have weight, proportion and look alive and you have achieved this I think with a little more practice you will be able to sculpt this no problem.
Stuart: please forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by a 'press mould'?
Press moulding is when you use the origanal figure press it into a moulding substance and once removed you put putty in the mould and apply the pattern to a mini your working on.
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Thanks Oliver, it's a shortcut but not a straightforward one but it does add options for aspects that I'm not confident to sculpt or simply to save time on.
Fingers crossed I'll have an attempt with a dolly some day (oo err !)
And Richard there's something very satisfying about sculpting a convincing cod piece lol
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Many thanks, Oliver and Stuart. Interesting.
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Complete deviation from the main brief but I couldn't help myself.
Mounted German / Swiss Crossbowman early 16c
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Simply splendid. Is the head all your own work, or a conversion Stuart?
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Head is a conversion
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Fanfeckintastic :o :-* :-*
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Excellent work Stuart...
Now!....Get working on that armature and make one fron scratch :D
All the best. Aly
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Beautifully done.
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Great work again.
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Wow :o can't wait to see in colour !...did easy cavalry used infantry helms ? Maybe...in all illustrations and there are no really much....shows the most time caps, schaller and early morion...but...stop discussion.....looks great.
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This was the initial inspiration
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Beautifull maximillian armor....and a new pictuere for me...looks like an early kurass or an infantry officer.
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I've added a few companions for this chap, more photographs and ramblings on the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/german-swiss-light-cavalry-part-1.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/german-swiss-light-cavalry-part-1.html)
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Perfect....the text in the illustration in your block iss really interesting....a little bit over tactic for the easy horse and the working together with infantry.
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Wonderful work Stuart
I have been trying to make that same early Burgonet from that drawing but I can't quite see the way the back of the helmet works...
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Superb 8)
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Oliver here's a selection of burgonets typical to 1500-1530
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And some more
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A few more
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Last one and a final combed burgonet with cheek pieces c.1580 but typical in varying forms from about 1540, this design evolved from the preceding examples into the early 1600's
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I re-did the trumpeter
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Beautiful work Stuart as always.
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Wow! :-*
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So, when are these getting shipped off to Renedra? ;)
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French infantry are complete and ready for action.
More photographs over on the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/french-infantry.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/french-infantry.html)
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More stellar work Start :-*
Cheers
Keith
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More beauties Stuart 8)
Richard
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Lovely work. You should be very proud of these.
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Gorgeous painting, very impressive.
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Beautiful work Stuart.
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Great stuff! Each time you post something it shows your skills are improving. You've gone from better to betterer. :D
The helmet you posted earlier is actually a 15th Century sallet re-purposed to look like a burgonet; probably by a dodgy second-hand armour dealer.
;)
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That mounted German/Swiss crossbowman in burgonet is a beautiful piece of sculpting.
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Stunning work on those French fellas.
A totally unique unit in every sense of the word.
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Also, every time I look at your pictures of the figures 'in situ' it reminds me that I really need to make some more realistic greenery for my own games.
Your results are outstanding.
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The pikemen are moving along, I've done quite a few since the last update of the figures in armour, here's the commander, a nobleman shouldering pike in the front rank in the Swiss fashion receiving instruction from a mercenary captain (also a conversion).
The commander is a Perry foot knight body with a mix of arms from the WOTR & mercenaries boxes with a steel fist head from their mounted Knights pack. These heads are fantastic, lots of ideas for these.
Now if we're ever to do some Scots, this would be the format 😜
Unit hopefully complete by the end of the month if I get a wriggle on
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Two more brilliant little creations Stuart :-*
Does Oliver supply his heads separately, or are you butchering whole figures to get these?
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Thanks Richard
Each of the mounted knight packs come with 4 seperate head and plume variants IIRC. I don't think these are available seperately as a pack but that would be very useful if they were hint hint Oliver if you're out there 🤔
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Excellent work Stuart,will these be based as a pair ? As the noble seems to be inclining his head for instruction,lovely :-*
Cheers
Keith
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More lovely posing (the figures, not you) and GS work - inspirational stuff Stuart!
Simon.
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One of the best medieval topics ! Great painting, great sculpting. Really the kind of great topics why I like LAF so much !
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Very nicely done 8)
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Excellent work Stuart,will these be based as a pair ? As the noble seems to be inclining his head for instruction,lovely :-*
Cheers
Keith
Glad you noticed, that was my plan though I wasn't sure if it were a bit too subtle
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Lovely work.
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As always outstanding work. :)
I have one criticism, the noble is too attentive, in my experience you can't tell a Scotsman anything. ;)
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Outstanding work indeed :-*
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Tudor pikemen are complete !
More photographs over on the blog; http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/early-tudor-pike-unit-complete.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/early-tudor-pike-unit-complete.html)
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Terrific Stuart :-*
Also enjoyed the explainations of things on the blog :)
Cheers
Keith
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Wow! These are amazing! :o :'( And this period isn't usually my 'thing'!
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Art, pure and simple.
Think those must be amongst your best yet Stuart. Really amazing detailing on the banner and tabor.
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Yes, very inspiring!
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oooerrrrrr misses. outstanding brushwork.
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Beautiful, absolutely beautiful :-*
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As Richard said - your best yet methinks - fantastic sculpts and intricate paintwork (love the emblems on the arms!).
Simon.
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Excellent work Stuart! :-*
Christopher
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Fabulous work. The banner is amazing.
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Incredible painting! The banner is astonishing :-*
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Here's the latest, a Perry, GW, Steel Fist, Pete's Flags sculpting combo !
Stuart
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Prior to painting
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Lovely naturally posed figure, and top notch sculpting and painting as we've all come to expect. More please Stuart :)
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Excellent,more great work Stuart :-*
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marvelous :-* :-*
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Stonkingly good - sculpting and paintwork (...I still can't do belts that good!)
Simon.
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Brilliant- so full of character!
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Please, never stop. You're killing me with Pope b*gg*r**g Holy goodness.
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Fan-frickin-tastic. Such inspirational (enviable) work. :-*
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Another wonderful figure.
Love him.
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thats a real beauty!
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Lovely work! :-* I feel as though I may have said this before, but your painted figure looks like he's cut straight out of a 16 century painting! :o
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Amazing conversions and painting :)
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Terrific work Stuart, love the flag bearer.
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What a character :-*
Another miniature masterpiece Stuart 8)
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Superb - good thing the belt was pointed out, I hadn't noticed it. 8) 8) 8)
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Holy cow! What an amazing paint job. Full of character. :-*
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I'm going to need a thesaurus to find more ways of saying "that's so damn good!"
Until then, that's so damn good :-*
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Marvellous. The face is just amazing.
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There is just so much character in your Tudor flagbearer's face. Bravo.
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Fantastic sculpting and painting. Never tired of seeing your masterpieces.
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I've been working on some more Tudor infantry - these will be moulded and cast, woohoo ! I might complete the army before I die !
More info on the blog http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/tudor-sculpting-conversions-first-foray.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/tudor-sculpting-conversions-first-foray.html)
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Those dolly sculpts look great Stuart,you'll soon be rattling units out :)
Cheers
Keith
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So you are joining the ranks of the Lead Barons :D
Good plan. Should speed up your Tudor production line quite a bit!
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Interesting idea, an after-market in plastic figures for wargamers. I wonder what other campaigns/periods might benefit from that.
Seeing more Tudor figures from you will be the real benefit but I would be interested if you were able to make these more widely available.
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My first figures !
Tudor moulds are back from casting and available for pre-order
More info and ordering details via the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/tudor-figures-available-for-pre-order.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/tudor-figures-available-for-pre-order.html)
Stuart
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Lovely work Stuart. Will they work for the Papal States?
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Thanks Helen yes They'd be great as Papal guard.
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Thanks Helen yes They'd be great as Papal guard.
Thank you Stuart.
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Thanks Helen yes They'd be great as Papal guard.
I am sure that people could find a way to use them in their Game of Thrones forces too.
Might be worth getting word spread about them over in Fantasy Adventures.
I am sure someone must have thought of it already....
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They've turned out splendidly Stuart :)
Cheers
Keith
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Here they are assembled
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A few more
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They look great :-*
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Superb 8) 8)
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Stuart,just thinking,perhaps you could put a dedicated sleeve sculpting tutorial on your blog,could help remove any lingering doubts buyers might have,myself included :)
Cheers
Keith
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Thanks Keith Good idea buddy
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Wow, Stuart, those look fantastic! And I can think of all sorts of uses for them.
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Here's a tutorial on how to assemble the figure and sculpt the arms;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/assembling-tudor-figures.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/assembling-tudor-figures.html)
Stuart
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Blimey! That was quick lol
Clear and precise Instructions Stuart,a great help,certainly food for thought .
Cheers
Keith
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A couple more casualty markers. Straight conversions from the WOTR casualty pack. Bases are by warbases
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More nice work on those Stuart :)
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We'll have to put them to good use Keith
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Very cool. I always enjoy seeing these markers and they are well painted too.
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That some great Markers Stuart! :-*
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We'll have to put them to good use Keith
Will look forward to it :)
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Lovely work matey :-*
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They look great Stuart!
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awesome work Stuart!
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Love those casualties.
Enjoying Radcliffe and Maconie at the moment Stuart?
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Hahaha I am indeed :D
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So am I, although in my case, painting Mexicans. lol
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Work in progress; converting a Zvezda 1:72 bombard into one of Henry VIII's 'apostle ' Great guns cast in 1512.
Stuart
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You're such a Renaissance man.
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Title says it all really.
More on the blog
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/painted-tudor-dollies.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/painted-tudor-dollies.html)
Stuart
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Top stuff, they turn out a treat.
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Darned nice Stuart. Now you can go into Tudor production overdrive! 8)
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looking good old boy.... :o
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Excellent work Stuart. Love the wip on the bombard.
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They look great Stuart :-*
Cheers
Keith
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Very nice - well done
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They look excellent! Mine won't be half as pretty, but the sculpts seem to take well to a lick of paint. Can't wait to get my mitts on them!
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Here's the first unit with the new figures;
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9QUuPvMmIdQ/WSr3GnJCcaI/AAAAAAAAD7s/L9LLDTI5-uAqwxFIvQu9MZMMPM-9FUJEQCLcB/s1600/Stanley.jpg)
More on the blog;
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/lord-thomas-stanley-2nd-earl-of-derby.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/lord-thomas-stanley-2nd-earl-of-derby.html)
Stuart
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Smashing looking unit Stuart :-*
Like the mix of figures too,I think the ensign is dressing the line :)
Cheers
Keith
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Stunning!! Some of your best work yet :-*
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Luvvly Jubbly Stuart!
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Very tasty mix of figures. Great work as usual Stuart.
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perfect...
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very well executed unit !!!!
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Outstanding work and great blog too, thanks. for sharing!
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That is one fantastic looking unit.
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Just wow - thats a splendid looking unit for sure.
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Well done! I need some of these in my life, Too bad the budget says I will have to wait for later. :(
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I picked some up, going to use them for Dornishmen I think.
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Very nice old boy...
So... next up a selection of heads ;)
All the best. Aly
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Lovely brushwork on your miniatures.
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That is a great looking unit!
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The French have been neglected for a while, here's the latest off the workbench a French Ordonnance archer / coustiller;
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A few new landsknecht parts, perchance?
Great Greenstuffing Stuart 8)
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Very nice 'folds' 8)
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Yes the purse, plume and dagger, very nice pieces in that box and sure to be used on forthcoming conversions.
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Fantastic - you have truly mastered the GS!!!
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Very nice, look forward to seeing him painted up.
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As ever - FANTASTIC !
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A few new landsknecht parts, perchance?
Great Greenstuffing Stuart 8)
You know, I was just looking at that figure thinking "Stuart should make an arms sprue with puffy sleeves for Warlord's plastic Landsknecht".
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I am so amazed you can just keep adding to this project with the wonderful perry miniatures and a bunch of greenstuff and make everything look like you want it. Amazing stuff, I'm jealous! :D
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An update on the Tudor dollies and what can be achieved with a bit of kit bashing.
https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/tudor-dollies-update.html?m=1 (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/tudor-dollies-update.html?m=1)
Thanks
Stuart
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Great examples Stuart,thanks for sharing :)
Cheers
Keith
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Very inspiring work.
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More adventures with conversions, terrain and photography
Full post on my blog;
https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/tudor-great-bombard-part-2.html?m=1 (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/07/tudor-great-bombard-part-2.html?m=1)
Stuart
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Is this your take on the St John the Evangelist episode Stuart?
Now you and Simon can have matched semi-submerged Apostles! :)
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It is indeed, it's been a slow burner since that BLAM game.
Simon kindly donated the cart and bombard which I converted.
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Well it's a fantastic scene :-*
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Beautiful work, thanks for sharing.
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It's amazing :-* :-* it's like a painting by some great artist from the past lol.
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Amazing work! In both cases, have you assumed that the bombard cradles or carriages would be built on the spot, should they or once they reach siege lines?
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Lovely work, superb diorama. I note that the backdrop is a painting not a photograph. Did you paint the backdrop as well?
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Thanks, it's a painted rail backdrop
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Another French Coustiller
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Here's the last one with some friends
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Love the paint job on the coustilier, the blond hair is particularly striking & the face is full of character. Once again looking at your work I'm turning a horrible shade of green with jealousy of your skill and talent.
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Love these, keep doing more :D :D 8) 8) :-*
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More fabulousness Stuart. Each one a miniature work of art 8)
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And a Gendarme, I'm working on 3 units at once and slightly regretting it !
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Superb :-* :-*
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Is the gendarme a Steelfist miniature? The horse furniture is lovely, nice colour and superb patterning.
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It's Wargames Foundry, getting them done to make way for some SF figures
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:-* :o :-*
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Beautiful. Both your painting and your sculpting are a real inspiration. As Captain Blood has already said, every one of your miniatures is a real work of art.
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Excellent effort here!
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I did not realise the Wargames Foundrty gendarmes had so much detail in their armour , or is it a question of you painting on additional detail? Have you had a chance to paint up any of the Steelfist gendarmes?
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The horse armour is plain so it lends itself very well to painting decorated panels. I'm sad to say that I haven't painted any of the SF gendarmes yet despite having all of them.
I'm keen to create a lance of SF gendarmes with converted men at arms and archers in support. They're excellent figures and I'm looking forward to doing them justice.
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The horse trapper is amazing !
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Wow! Absolutely amazing. :-*
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I find your artfulness disturbing :o o_o :-* :)
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Wow :o Your skills are incredible - well done :-*
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That Gendarme is the bees knees.
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Breathtaking painting :-*
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unbelievable good
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Fantastic Work
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Absolutely lovely Stuart
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Truly Splendid! Great skill on display.
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Coustiller no.2 painted with an uncanny likeness to Alan Perry
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Here he is again as an arquebusier
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Wow. Just WOW - words fail me. Enough said. I don't know if I can ever pick up a brush again.
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Here he is again as an arquebusier
Lol,hadn't noticed that before ,more nice work Stuart,is this based one of your metal torsos?
Cheers
Keith
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These are both conversions
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Words are poor to describe all these splendid works of art! :-* :-* :-*
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Really like these Light horse conversions very good!
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Your painting skill is simply impressive :-*
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Love these last two - brilliantly done.
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Beautiful work.
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Stuart your work is really inspiring!
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Lovely conversion and brushwork, as usual.
:-* :-*
Here he is again as an arquebusier
Ah, the Mr Ben of the wargaming world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqpHnrm5dik
;)
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Gob, meet smack. :-* :-*
Beautiful as always.
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Amazing work.
Steve
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Lovely work as usual matey :)
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Tudor era is not a favourite historical period of mine, but you're doing quite a good job with them - well done!
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Fantastic work! :-*
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Lovely toys Stuart
All the best. Aly
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French Mounted Archer
A fairly small conversion using an Ansar head with sculpted hair and cap.
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Lovely stuff :-*
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Another lovely character, Stuart 8)
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Another lovely figure.
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Another very nice addition Stuart.
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More nice work Stuart :)
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Amazing :-* love that Yew bow; mine never end up looking that good
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Another mounted archer ready for painting, I really like the way this one came together
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Simple and effective conversion,a very natural pose,looks great :)
Cheers
Keith
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Simple and effective conversion,a very natural pose,looks great :)
Cheers
Keith
Couldn't have put it better myself :-*
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And another in a similar fashion
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More nice work Stuart :)
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Just discovered this thread and blog - truly amazing work. 28mm Italian Wars is one of my passions, so I shall be following this work avidly.
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My stars and garters, what cracking GS-job AND painting!
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very nice indeed
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Thanks chaps, here's one I did earlier
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another productive day!! ;)
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Excellent painting on a fine conversion.
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Thanks, it's rather grey today so the photo's not the best. Day off today 😊
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Beautiful Stuart...
You must be close to sculpting a whole figure by now... go on, you know you want to...
All the best. Aly
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Crackin' paint job :-*
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Top notch :-* :-* :-*
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Scruffy looking fellow.
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The quality of this tread si really impressive, I'm going to read it all at once now!
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Another light cavalryman, destined to be a standard bearer I think
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Ah, those gauntlets - must use that idea! More lively work with the Green Stuff!
Simon.
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Good aren't they. I've seen helmets and sometimes 1 or 2 swords hanging from saddles too which I might try.
It has a more casual air about it though so I think I'll be selective with any future builds.
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Haha - gauntlets. Lovely. I am so having that idea too :D
Another stylish creation Stuart.
That's a noble visage too. Is that a Perry Zouave head under there, or something more esoteric? I don't immediately recognise it...
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Gauntlets & 2nd sword examples
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The head is from my much used box of Perry Ansar. This one had thick hair which I cut and filed off then replaced. The box is very useful for all sorts of conversions
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Ah yes. Recognise him now. Quite different without the afro!
I did suggest a while back to Michael Perry that they might consider producing a generic set of heads and body parts for the converter. But I guess that would be of limited appeal to the great wargaming public, given the scale of investment required to produce a plastic set. But you know... generic bodies in legging and shirts. Some bare arms, some shirtsleeve arms... Some bare heads, some in soft hats, some bearded... Maybe some livestock too... Dogs, cats, chickens. Could be adaptable as civilians from the medieval to Napoleonic, and provide a host of conversion possibilities...
One can but hope... :)
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I would buy up their entire stock !
The Ansar are good for that but the pose is limiting. Heads and arms however are great and the bodies are easy to make casualties out of too.
If there were a similar box of ahem scantily clad chaps in standing poses I'd be very happy.
I've thought ancients might lend themselves to this but I haven't been able to find anything yet - not looked that hard to be honest so all suggestions welcome.
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There's the Warlord Ancient Celts set, but the poses are somewhat over excitable... and the muscled physiques are a bit too fantasy...
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I do like the look of that mounted standard bearer; absolutely screams early C16th, a look I have been trying to come up with for years.
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I love the horse best!!! ;)
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lol yes indeed, it's widely traveled this one
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French 'archer' cavalry complete......
But as all my photographs are too big you'll have to take my word for it or have a look !
http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/french-cavalry-part-1.html (http://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/french-cavalry-part-1.html)
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Lovely stuff Stuart can't wait to see them on the table.
When it comes to computers and such I'm a real dunnderhead, however I have discovered that if I email photos to myself they are automatically resized and I can fit eight on a thread. I don't know how it works but it does lol.
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It's magic ! Cheers Jeff !
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Cracking work Stuart :-*
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What the eyes can ask more :-*
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Again, fabulous looking figures.
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Fantastic work! :-*
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Another Gendarme.
Or how to slightly lose your mind saying 'over and under' to yourself while painting the lattice
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Superb! Man and horse and the well done lattice and your color palette.
I like even the woodgrain on the lance! Congrats!
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I can imagine this takes long. Very well done stuart. You are a continued source of inspiration.
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Flip! That's tidy.
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Eye bendingly amazing.
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Amazing as always.
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Well that's rather nice!
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Steel Fist Miniatures has great figures for this period.
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Stunning absolutely stunning :-* :-*
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Another Gendarme.
Or how to slightly lose your mind saying 'over and under' to yourself while painting the lattice
Two words........worth.....it!...actually two words and an exclamation! Great stuff! :o
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Or how to slightly lose your mind......
I wish you'd bite my painting hand lol
Magnificent work!
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Wow - best ever Gendarme :-*
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Amazing. Just amazing. Out of interest, how long do you think painting this figure took you?
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2 days painting on this one
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Superb! Looks like I'll have to get some more Foundry gendarmes.
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Further adventures with conversion, this time I've done some surgery on the Tudor dollies and swapped their legs with those from plastic Perry and Warlord Landsknecht figures to create more static standing poses.
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Rear view
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What a quality work :o
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They're gorgeous. I think the chap who has just fired his bow looks a bit static though - the pose doesn't look like he put much effort in. But beautifully painted.
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Cracking work :-*
Tudor troops always look 'warmer' than their Late Medieval counterparts :)
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Outstanding work! Top notch! Congrats!
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Thanks yes I see what you mean, I've based these alongside figures in more active poses and noticed that myself so I think I'll do some more conversions.
It's always warmer if you've got your big coat on :D
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nice :-*
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More lushness there Stuart :)
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Again they look absolutely terrific.
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I haven’t posted in a while, here’s some more archers
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And a couple of WIP casualty markers
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Some archers
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Where to start ?
Imaginative posing,lovely paintjobs,,those Tudor livery colours are just perfect and the clothwork on the trumpeter is amazing :-*
Love 'em :)
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Where to start ?
Imaginative posing,lovely painti jobs,,those Tudor colours are just perfect and the clothwork on the trumpeter is amazing :-*
Love 'em :)
What he said +1 :-*
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What he said +1 :-*
And more! I would like to praise your technique of how you paint the hands and the faces! Very expressive!
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+++ what they said, plus I love how you put as much attentions to detail on your casualty markers as you do your main figures. Superb. :-* :-* :-*
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Very cool.
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Lovely!
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Excellent work! :-* :-* Thank you for sharing this with us.
LB
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As usual, your Tudor archers are simply brilliant. Very good idea for the casualty markers.
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Incredible detail on faces and the trumpet banner looks like real cloth!! These are real works of art
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I love seeing these updates, really inspirational.
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Extraordinarily impressive painting! If you don't mind my asking, what is your process for painting skin tones? You have achieved an enviably life-like effect. (I apologize beforehand if you have outlined this somewhere, but I'm not particularly good with the search function)
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Thanks all, I’ve been asked a lot about the way I paint faces lately so I shall put a brief summary up with the next figure that I paint.
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Nice work!
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Thanks all, I’ve been asked a lot about the way I paint faces lately so I shall put a brief summary up with the next figure that I paint.
Excellent.
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I'll be delighted to see your posting!
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Here’s the completed unit, more pics on the blog https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/archers-of-dorset-retinue-and-brief.html?m=1 (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/archers-of-dorset-retinue-and-brief.html?m=1)
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They look really pretty!
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So beautiful! Like a painting of that era!
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As I said on your blog, beautiful work.
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Quality of the miniatures in this thread is incredible. Keep up them amazing work.
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Fantastic work as always.
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Nice to see the old "two-fingered salute" on the tabletop. Not sure I'll be able to replicate that in 15mm when I have my Herician figures commissioned, but I may well have a "speciality figure" doing something similar.
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Lovely base of archers. Great conversions and lovely painting. :-* :-*
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I’ve not managed much over the last month but here’s what’s currently on the work bench.
I’m converting the Perry WOTR metal marching bow and bill into archers in livery coats along with a couple of kit bashed figures like this unfinished bagpiper.
All the best
Stuart
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Very nice figures and painting as always. Looking forward to seeing the bagpiper finished. Were they common in English units?
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Nice work on those Stuart :)
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Lovely, you get better and better :-*
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Stuart, you are getting really good with your conversions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bagpipes and a variety of other instruments were present at the Tudor court. They were also common in Northern France.
The inspiration for the pipes in a military fashion came from this German source upon viewing Henry’s army in array in 1513;
He had not many mounted men, but had his footguards or halberdiers with him, of whom about 300 all clad in one colour ran with him on foot. [From a tower the King showed the Emperor] what belonged to the town (the town of Therouanne and state of the siege). Whilst both lords were on the tower the King had placed all his people who were in camp in lines everywhere three or four deep. He conducted the Emperor through to inspect this. They are really big strong men having a captain to every hundred, and their pennon on a long spear as our horsemen carry them. It is carried with both hands in front against the breast. Some have English bows, some crossbows, certain of them maces with long handles and certain of them long spears; and almost all are clad in long white coats edged with green cloth and wear breast plates, and steel caps on their heads. For their field music they have a fluteplayer (schalm) and a bagpiper (sackpfeiffer) who play together and certain of them a trumpet."
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Super as usual Stuart.
Love the bagpiper already :-*
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This conversion for a piper has been a pig but I’m happy with the result
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Looks good to me :)
Great work mate :)
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Looks great - I guess the bagpipes were also a pig (once upon s time)? 😉
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Looks great - I guess the bagpipes were also a pig (once upon s time)? 😉
:D :D
Great conversion. Looking forward to seeing him painted up. :-* :-*
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Great stuff, you must be near to doing a full figure now Stuart?
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Just an amazing project :o
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All coloured in :)
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Lovely model Stuart :-*
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Another terrific model Stuart :-*
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Oh! How realistic face! :-*
A fantastic paintjob!
And knowing it is a conversion, many, many congratulations! Perfect!
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Splendid conversion and painting Stuart - even the fingers seem to be placed over the holes!
I see the look of concentration on his face and can almost hear the din of the pipes!
Simon
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Lovely work both on miniature and brushwork.
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That looks fantastic.
Steve
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nice flashtones and superb eyes 8)
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Another little masterpiece Stuart. You’ve really gone to town on the face. I’m sure I’ve seen that very countenance amongst the early Tudors in the National Portrait Gallery (if you haven’t been, it’s well worth a visit by the way, if you want to gaze into the eyes of actual people from the early 1500s... )
Anyway - lovely job :)
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gorgeous!
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Just brilliant !
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Great love for detail....wow.
Super modelling skills and on top your painting abilitys... o_o :-*
Outstanding result.
Cheers,
Don
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Wonderful model and fabulous painting. :-* :-*
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Great face!
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Marching archer unit completed.
Converted Perry WOTR figures, more pics on my blog https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/06/marching-retinue-bowmen.html?m=1 (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/06/marching-retinue-bowmen.html?m=1)
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Excellent and splendid - particularly excellent and splendid are the command trio (drummer, piper and other chap)!!
looking forward to closer inspection very soon...
Simon.
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Excellent and splendid - particularly excellent and splendid are the command trio (drummer, piper and other chap)!!
looking forward to closer inspection very soon...
Simon.
Can't say more, they are lovely! :-*
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Just awesome! :-* :-* :-*
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OMG :o :o :o :o :o :o
They are superb! (pick tongue off floor)
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Stunning work :)
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Hello,
Superb paintjob !!! A great project !!!
Nikkobourges
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Hello,
Superb paintjob !!! A great project !!!
Nikkobourges
Exactly that !
:)
Cheers
Keith
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Brilliant. :-*
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Lush. Perfect in every respect.
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Simply put - magnificent painting.
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Wonderful. :-* :-*
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It's been a while...
Hopefully this makes up for it; Early Tudor Demilancers led by Rhys ap Thomas, his son Gruffudd and Sir John Oghan, a veritable Tafia of Welshness :D
a LOT more photographs and ramblings here https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/11/rhys-ap-thomas-and-demilancers.html (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/11/rhys-ap-thomas-and-demilancers.html)
Enjoy !
Stuart
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Just lovely Stuart,enjoyed the write up and wip pictures on the blog too! :-*
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The level of your paintjob is beyond any imagination! And your pictures so well staged! Many-many congrats!!!
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Just lovely Stuart,enjoyed the write up and wip pictures on the blog too! :-*
Thanks Keith I thought you might.
If you ever find yourself down West, Rhys’ castle at Carew is well worth a visit
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Hi Stuart,yes it is,was lucky enough to visit last summer,really impressive. :)
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Fantastic! I really like the idea of this sort of 'medium cavalry', and have been trying similar conversions with the Perry plastics myself.
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I’ve been missing your posts but this was well worth the wait :-*
The unit is brilliant and the thinking behind it fascinating
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A splendid force :-*
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:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Some great conversions and paint jobs. Not my period really - just dabble - but I like the creativity and research you have done.
On the Pete's flags, they look nice, where can these be found?
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:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Some great conversions and paint jobs. Not my period really - just dabble - but I like the creativity and research you have done.
On the Pete's flags, they look nice, where can these be found?
There’s a link in the paragraph that mentions the flags toward the bottom of the article
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Wonderful as always and an excellent blog post. :)
One of the suggestions I've come across for the origins of the term 'demi-lance', is that the archetypes of that class came alone to muster, i.e. without custrel and page, as would be the case with a 'lance' (or 'spear') or man at arms proper. So 'part-lance/half-lance' may be the root of the term.
The man at arms at 12d a day disappeared from around 1492, the 'man at arms' proper now got the old 24d 'knight rate' (to help finance his mini-retinue and spare mounts), while the demi-lance just got the 9d rate formerly paid to 'foot men at arms' (who did have a horse) and 'scowrers' etc.
Back in the days of English armies fighting largely on foot, there was no need to distinguish between 'lesser men at arms' and their betters.
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Thanks Jim
I wasn’t aware of the etymology in that respect as I thought it was just that they carried a short lance. But that (as always from your good self) makes perfect sense !
I’ll add it to the post if you don’t mind
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Hi Stuart, by all means do. :)
It shouldn't be read that demi-lancers didn't become associated with their lighter or shorter spears over time, nor that a chronicler coming across the term for the first time did not just make an assumption that demi-lance referred to their weapon of choice. In a chicken and egg thing infantry 'staves' (spears) became known as 'half-pikes' when used on foot, not that many years on from this.
Certainly references to mounted 'staves' from the Mid-15th Century might indicate a competing term to 'demi-lance' that appeared a little later, by virtue of the weapon used and ultimately the two seem to become almost by-words for heavy lancer and heavier lancer in your era.
Here's to the wonderously vague terminology of the 15th-16th Centuries! ;)
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Jim, thanks for the scholarly explanation for the etymology of the term demilance.
I think another distinction is that while the gendarmes (or true "man at arms") of the early Tudor period in full plate rode a barded horse, the demilances rode unbarded horses.
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Great stuff Stuart, good to see you back at the brushes
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Thanks Jeff
It’s a tonic
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Jim, thanks for the scholarly explanation for the etymology of the term demilance.
I think another distinction is that while the gendarmes (or true "man at arms") of the early Tudor period in full plate rode a barded horse, the demilances rode unbarded horses.
Thanks, glad it struck a chord. I would say that you are almost certainly correct that all demi-lances rode unbarded horses. Whether all men at arms had them by the early years of the 16th Century, I'll leave Stuart to ponder and discuss.
;)
We had a discussion a while ago on it as regards the 15th Century and despite most of us thinking the French and Burgundians led the way, it turned out there was very little evidence, other than Charles the Bold suggesting to his men at arms that it would be a good idea to bard their horses if they could. It was a bit like the government with motorcyclists today; "You have to wear a helmet, but we're not going to stop you riding around in your shorts if you can't run to a set of leathers".
In my mind there was probably a process that saw the 'true' men at arms get fewer due to the cost, but those that didn't descend into the demi-lances were the type of folk who could bear the expense regardless. So fewer men at arms = higher incidence of barded horses, until all men at arms had barded horses by default.
This process wasn't confined to England either. By the end of the 15th Century, France's Ordonnance 'Archers' were predominantly younger sons of chivalrous families. Some were there because age entry into the gendarmes was a year older than required for the archers, but many simply didn't have the money (or credit) to fund the equipment, horses and lifestyle. I doubt there were many 'low-born' professionals in the corps after the end of the HYW and a few of the famous gendarmes of the 16th Century started their careers as 'teen archers' for a year or so.
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The peerless Bayard started his career as an "archer."
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Early Tudor field artillery piece is the latest on the blog, here’s the crew and the based up piece and ramblings can be found here;
https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/12/tudor-culverin.html?m=1 (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/12/tudor-culverin.html?m=1)
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Outstanding... I love how you managed to get all those figures on what looks like a pretty small base for artillery and yet they all look very natural and not crowded.
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Excellent! :-*
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Stonking, just utterly stonking...
that is all.. :)
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Great work, gets better and better :-*
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Beautiful painting, real works of art in 28mm! ;)
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Beautiful painting, real works of art in 28mm! ;)
So beautiful! :-*
Great!!!
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Awesome stuff as always.
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I ran out of excuses so I picked up the green stuff and brushes to create a unit of militia / shire longbows, hope you enjoy them.
More photographs and info over on the blog https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2020/04/early-tudor-longbowmen.html (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2020/04/early-tudor-longbowmen.html)
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Great work!
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Top notch work as always!
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Lovely additions to the collection mate 👍
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Those look very nice!
Steve
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Excellent conversions. :-* :-*
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Delightful brushwork and great to see that you have more time to pick up the brush/putty Stuart. :-* :-* :-*
I love the manner in which you and Oli have gone for playing LR with multi based mini's. They just look so much better that way IMHO.
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Ditto and ditto. It’s great to see new work from you again.
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Loving the additions to the army!
Cheers
Matt
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Inspiring additions, Stuart :)
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Lockdown project no. 7 I think.
Some standing figures to go with Perry mercenaries / WOTR arms.
These are converted from the Steel Fist Landsknecht artillery crew. I hope to have 8 but couldn’t resist sharing the work in progress.
All being well these will be cast up at some point and available, don’t know an idea of time at the moment, I’ll put an update on that when there’s further progress.
They’re pretty good though and as ever they’ve been a huge trial and error lesson in putty pushing.
Hope you like em
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Nice conversion work Stuart 8)
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They work well 8)
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Amazing work Stuart! :o :-* :o
Your control of the putty pushing just gets better and better! :-*
Fantastic news that they might be cast up as I could certainly do with some standing poses to go with the humungous number of dollies I have bought in more active poses!
Do keep us all posted please 8)
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You’re getting very good at skirts, Stuart ;)
They look great.
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Perry's & Steel Fist will be looking forward to the royalty cheque once you cast these.
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That's pretty cool. Looking forward to grabbing some in the future.
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Great news!
I have had good use of your other dollies and look really forward to these :-*
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Perry's & Steel Fist will be looking forward to the royalty cheque once you cast these.
What Stuart says, is that the dollies will be cast up - not the temporary examples he shows here using Perry parts on the green dollies.
Also doubt that Steel Fist will be demanding royalties for the use of their ankles and feet. Stuart and Simon (who owns Steel Fist) are the best of friends, long term collaborators, and gaming buddies.
It pays to be abreast of the facts before casting aspersions.
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Nice sculpting, and great idea to use the artillery crew as a base!
They'll definitely save cutting the legs from the WotR bodies! I've got a pile of kneeless torsos from my last attempts! lol
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I know the feeling lol perhaps a series of casualty vignettes hit by grapeshot could be in order ?
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I know the feeling lol perhaps a series of casualty vignettes hit by grapeshot could be in order ?
I'm going to hold you to that :o lol
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Also doubt that Steel Fist will be demanding royalties for the use of their ankles and feet. Stuart and Simon (who owns Steel Fist) are the best of friends, long term collaborators, and gaming buddies.
I would hazard a guess that if these become commercially available one day, it might be Steel Fist that ends up selling them, as happened with the previous dollies by Stuart:
https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/wfd-10.-tudor-dollies/
I do actually have a dozen of those dollies, though I have not yet glued any arms or heads to them. Still good to hear that more variants, in more static poses, might be coming up in the future.
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Apologies for any confusion.
The first pack of dollies were made, cast and distributed by me with the approval of Perry Miniatures - they were specifically created to take the arms of the WOTR plastic sets. Initially not commercially I might add.
They did quite well and I made the decision to offer ownership and production over to Steel Fist Miniatures.
This process is pretty much the same. I’ve a load of spare arms left over from the mercenaries sets and in anticipation of making some 16c figures from them I’m hoping to use existing channels to get them cast again.
Both manufacturers who are supportive of the venture and good friends, will benefit from this and I’ll get some new figures to paint.
Hope that clears things up.
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Crystal ! :)
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Apologies for any confusion.
The first pack of dollies were made, cast and distributed by me with the approval of Perry Miniatures - they were specifically created to take the arms of the WOTR plastic sets. Initially not commercially I might add.
They did quite well and I made the decision to offer ownership and production over to Steel Fist Miniatures.
This process is pretty much the same. I’ve a load of spare arms left over from the mercenaries sets and in anticipation of making some 16c figures from them I’m hoping to use existing channels to get them cast again.
Both manufacturers who are supportive of the venture and good friends, will benefit from this and I’ll get some new figures to paint.
Hope that clears things up.
Well said Stuart. More power to you.
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I just had a evil thought about possible future dollies. Guys in "Almain River". Ether in standing or more in a aggressive pose. ;)
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They’re here !
https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/wfd-31.-tudor-dollies-standing/?fbclid=IwAR1Jhj0tU4m34PDNN3VY2n5jBSTVuEMjTrZ3IYAUv49-WHdJTVOZ58bSsZY (https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/wfd-31.-tudor-dollies-standing/?fbclid=IwAR1Jhj0tU4m34PDNN3VY2n5jBSTVuEMjTrZ3IYAUv49-WHdJTVOZ58bSsZY)
And very quickly sold out :D
Hopefully not too long for a re-stock, here’s a quick look at a couple of painted examples without conversion, an English archer in Stanley livery snd a Scots arquebusier in Douglas livery.
Also some figures I’ve started to convert with them, I’ll post up further progress soon.
Lots of possibilities for these.
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A couple more awaiting a bit of GS work on the arms
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They’re here !
https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/wfd-31.-tudor-dollies-standing/?fbclid=IwAR1Jhj0tU4m34PDNN3VY2n5jBSTVuEMjTrZ3IYAUv49-WHdJTVOZ58bSsZY (https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/wfd-31.-tudor-dollies-standing/?fbclid=IwAR1Jhj0tU4m34PDNN3VY2n5jBSTVuEMjTrZ3IYAUv49-WHdJTVOZ58bSsZY)
And very quickly sold out
I might be largely responsible for that :D
Perfect for the pike blocks I have in mind ;) :D
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And very quickly sold out :D
I'll need to be quicker on the draw next time! lol
But seriously, excellent work on the figures, a real nice job showing off the new bodies!
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Good for you Darrell :) they’re very easy to paint and really clean moulds.
Here’s my back of a fag packet list of potential uses
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They look nice. To bad I missed them this time. But seeing how I need the steelfist dimi-lancers, I will just have to tack them into some future borders.
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That's an interesting list of potential uses! I'd be really curious to see someone's take on dismounted Stradioti using them
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Yes, that would be very interesting to see some dismounted Stradioti.
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I'll need to be quicker on the draw next time! lol
I couldn't believe my luck! I just happened to be on Facebook and they post popped up- no mean feat with the new layout which I still find confused.
Good for you Darrell :) they’re very easy to paint and really clean moulds.
Here’s my back of a fag packet list of potential uses
Cheers Stuart! Half of my wants to say "thanks, I didn't think of that" and the other half, "begone ye Satan" lol So many more ideas!!!
I bought them to use as retinue pike for Flodden and have a lot of the first set of dollies to use for Retinue Archers etc. I'm hoping I can manage the sleeves- a bit of practice and they ought to be doable- the most difficult part of the project is going to be some of the armours on some of the Billmen etc. A subtle change from the later stages of the Wars of the Roses but one that is essential to get right.
I'll pop over to your blog sometime and see how you managed the leg armours etc :)
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Here’s a couple mocked up as pike.
You could add sleeves to create a livery coat or leave them as is as the wearers own jacket.
If you want to maintain the original sense of movement that the pike arms were designed for you could do a leg swap.
Alternatively you could find suitable arms in a standing pose and convert them.
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Here’s a couple mocked up as pike.
You could add sleeves to create a livery coat or leave them as is as the wearers own jacket.
Interesting. I didn't think of that. I will probably do split; the Liveries soldiers with sleeves (one I've practiced on some plastics) and leave the rest in their own jacks as you say.
If you want to maintain the original sense of movement that the pike arms were designed for you could do a leg swap.
Those are lovely Stuart. I do see what you mean about maintaining the sense of movement, no matter how subtle.
Alternatively you could find suitable arms in a standing pose and convert them.
There will be conversions for sure. I'm looking at the whole Flodden thing as a (very) long term project. It's been hard enough trying to collate the requisite heraldic banners and standards etc. As I said, the biggest problem I'm going to have is converting some of the armours. I was thinking of making some castings with Green Stuff World's Blue Stuff. I've tried it out a couple of times using plastic parts but I have not found it easy at all. Having said that, I'm sure my technique will improve with practice- or should I say I hope? lol
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Raids feature regularly in Tudor warfare, here’s a fire starter
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Great looking figs. And now I got Prodigy stuck in my head.
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Great looking figs. And now I got Prodigy stuck in my head.
lol
I can live with that lol
Great conversion Stuart. Looking forward to seeing what you do with this piece 8)
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These look incredible!
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Each miniature a piece of art and an inspiration :-*
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Excellent work as ever.
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First pack done :)
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Absolute beauties! :-*
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That standard bearer is just outstanding!
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Great stuff! The Landsknecht is amazing especially!
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Everything, from the poses to the paint choice, fantastic!
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Works of art :-* :-* :-*
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Works of art :-* :-* :-*
Yep! 😎
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Entirely fabulous, you talented git lol
That standard bearer has stepped straight down from the canvas of an old master... He’s sublime. Well done Stuart :-*
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Astoundingly fab Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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They look amazing.
Steve
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Those are something else!
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Wow! They're absolutely amazing! It's truly inspiring to go through this thread.
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Wow, more than bloody superb
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Beautiful! Very well done!
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Absolutely wonderful indeed.
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Beautiful conversion work.
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Wow. Absolutely fabulous. :o :o :o :o JUst love that standard bearer. :-* :-*
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That standard bearer is just out of this world.
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I can only reiterate what has already been said - fantastic work!
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That standard bearer is pure badassness.
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Sculpting and painting? = awesome work!
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Another pack done.
Group 1. Yeoman of the Guard alongside 2 looters
Group 2. French Gendarme in conversation with an Archer guard and a Crossbowman.
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Superb (as I might have mentioned before) painterly work Stuart :-* :-* :-*
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Wow incredible artistry
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Cracking paintjob! Awesome faces!!!
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Wonderful painting. :-* :-*
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Again, looking forward to snaging some of those dolls. When they are available again. :D
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Lovely! :-*
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It's such a joy to look at this thread. The research, the construction and conversions, and then the glory of them in all their painted loveliness.
Of course, the banner bearer is utterly outstanding, but then you look at the others and see as much care is taken in the faces of archers or the bowstrings of crossbowmen as in all his finery.
Really, really wonderful.
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Thanks very much, I appreciate it :)
If you’re keen to see more have a look at my blog;
www.stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com
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Stuart
Still setting the standard. All power to your painting arm.
Stuart
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Cheers Stuart :)
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I know I committed every where else, but they look great. :D
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Great work, could be taken out of the gunpowder plot. Your work feeds my imagination, great! Hope to see more.
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Cant wait to see him painted
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I've just completed a unit of early Tudor mounted archers, i think the first period conversion I did with Perry medievals was a French mounted archer so it's come full circle.
Painting and modelling tips, a bit of history and gaming in this blog post;
https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2021/12/early-tudor-mounted-archers.html (https://stuartsworkbench.blogspot.com/2021/12/early-tudor-mounted-archers.html)
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Not bad Stuart,not bad at all ;) :)
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Great work! And thanks for the writeup too, a lot of really interesting information there!
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Wonderfully crafted and converted not to mention beautifully painted unit Stuart :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Superb! Great figures! I love the horses, especially the grey!
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Great looking unit, like the conversions and as said already the horses look very nice
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Great conversions and beautiful painting. :-* :-* :-*
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More beautiful and unique creations, Mr. M.
love ‘em :-*
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Lovely work, Stuart - very impressed. Any chance these could appear as "dollies" via Steel Fist, and are you making any more such figures generally?
Do you know what proportion of the 1513 army wore the Tudor smock you have modelled? Also, is the colour scheme your interpretation, or does it have supporting evidence? The reason I ask is that Helion has just produced a book entitled "The Tudor Arte of Warre, Volume 1" which shows a similar smock, but halved white and green, rather than being all white with green trim. Is this just another interpretation of what the smock might have looked like? Could both versions have co-existed?
As you know, I use the Field of Glory: Renaissance (FoG:R) rules. I'm not sure how familiar you are with them, but they have specific rules for "dragoons" (function as "light troops"; mixed movement rates depending on whether firing or riding and how close the enemy are) and I think the definition suits these chaps rather well, but the "rules committee" refuses to allow that - or even permit their presence on the table! (We have discussed similar "exclusions" in the past, some of which they have - reluctantly - agreed to!) Your thoughts?
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Thanks very much
There’s always a possibility but I think it’s presently beyond my current capabilities. I agree they would be useful though.
Re appearence those on the border were described as wearing white coats whereas those in livery tend to be a feature of more well off captains.
There’s a Venetian source which describes those in the french campaign of 1513: soldiers sailors and labourers in coats of green and white.
Also an imperial source which describes all in white coats fringed with green. There are English sources which state the same (Percy’s retinue for example).
Coat money was provided by the state but there was no stipulation regarding cut. Badges were allowed but this was from the retinue leader’s funds.
For this unit I blended all of the above so I can use them for Scots and French battles.
Re the rules I have always used them as a guide and add further additions to give a period feel per the campaign/scenario. Rigidity is unfortunate but if you can get a consensus i think you can make for some interesting games. Using dragoon rules would fit. There’s plenty of references to their use in this manner.
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Absolutely magnificent brushwork! These figures are some of the best I've ever seen!
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Brilliant :-* :-*
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Have you done a group shot of all these lovely conversions yet? :-* You've got quite the collection now!
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I don’t think I do, there’s shots of them in action in various games on my friend Oli’s blog here http://camisado1500s.blogspot.com/?m=1 (http://camisado1500s.blogspot.com/?m=1)