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Title: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on April 30, 2015, 01:50:34 PM
Bit of a random musing. Does anyone have any thoughts on forces that would make good opponents for Daleks? I'm thinking about armies rather than one man with a time machine. They could be from a film, book, miniatures range, computer game etc but from outside the Who canon.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: shadowking1957 on April 30, 2015, 01:59:56 PM
In the novel war of the Daleks the  future Thralls  fought them exterminate absorbing  armour and   hard hitting  blast rifles.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on April 30, 2015, 02:02:52 PM
In the novel war of the Daleks the  future Thralls  fought them exterminate absorbing  armour and   hard hitting  blast rifles.

I'm thinking of outside the Who canon - a crossover if you want.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Ray Earle on April 30, 2015, 02:10:31 PM
Aliens. Everyone's favourite bug. Acid for blood and a generally ever lasting supply of troops.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on April 30, 2015, 02:16:03 PM
Aliens. Everyone's favourite bug. Acid for blood and a generally ever lasting supply of troops.

Thats a good un  :)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Steve F on April 30, 2015, 02:30:33 PM
Terry Nation's original ending for the second series of Blake's Seven was for the Liberator crew to be forced into an alliance with Servalan and the Federation to fight an invasion not by shape-changing aliens from Andromeda, but by Daleks.  So that's a possibility, with lots of nice Crooked Dice minis to use.

Or there's the Bash Street Kids.

(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w519/SteveFlanaganUK2/Odds%20and%20Ends/Bash%20Street%20Kids%20vs%20Dalek_zpsh3kalwrj.jpg) (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/SteveFlanaganUK2/media/Odds%20and%20Ends/Bash%20Street%20Kids%20vs%20Dalek_zpsh3kalwrj.jpg.html)

But no-one makes minis of the Bash Street Kids, worse luck!
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Michi on April 30, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
Weren´t the Cyberman fighting them in Canary Wharf?
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on April 30, 2015, 02:35:35 PM

Or there's the Bash Street Kids.

(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w519/SteveFlanaganUK2/Odds%20and%20Ends/Bash%20Street%20Kids%20vs%20Dalek_zpsh3kalwrj.jpg) (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/SteveFlanaganUK2/media/Odds%20and%20Ends/Bash%20Street%20Kids%20vs%20Dalek_zpsh3kalwrj.jpg.html)

But no-one makes minis of the Bash Street Kids, worse luck!


 lol
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on April 30, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
Weren´t the Cyberman fighting them in Canary Wharf?

Yes, but Cybermen are in the canon  ::)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Earther on April 30, 2015, 02:47:08 PM
How about Crooked Dice's Federation troopers (not-Blake's 7)?

Or EM4's Spacelords?
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Tactalvanic on April 30, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
How about Crooked Dice's Federation troopers (not-Blake's 7)?

Or EM4's Spacelords?

or starwars through the rebels and/or the empire against them, from far far away.

Emperor Ming and his minions come to mind to
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Inso on April 30, 2015, 02:55:24 PM
Powered armour Grymn:
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=sci%252dfi-%26%0D%0Aweird-war~grymn-powered-armour

Sharclons:
http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_60

Tyranids, Necrons and Ad-Mech from GW.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: jp1885 on April 30, 2015, 02:57:37 PM
Canon-wise, they have fought many races, including the Thals, Spiridons (easy to do in miniature as they're invisible!) Cybermen, the Mechanoids the Draconians, Exxilons, and, of course Humans (including resistance fighters when they invaded Earth).

EDIT
Quote
but from outside the Who canon.

Ah, in that case please disregard! :D
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: whiskey priest on April 30, 2015, 03:41:56 PM
How about Cylons? The new crooked dice not-cylons would be perfect. Or maybe captain scarlet! Or Jerry Cornelius!
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: commissarmoody on April 30, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Powered armour Grymn:
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=sci%252dfi-%26%0D%0Aweird-war~grymn-powered-armour

Sharclons:
http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_60


My vote is with these guys. They stylistically fit with the daleks but with out being who. Of course I would most likely just use my moderns against them.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Michi on April 30, 2015, 04:15:43 PM
Valkeeri...  ::)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: v_lazy_dragon on April 30, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
Skynet style terminators?
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on April 30, 2015, 04:32:32 PM

My vote is with these guys. They stylistically fit with the daleks but with out being who. Of course I would most likely just use my moderns against them.

I like them but be honest, the Sharclons are very similar to a certain Who race.

I like this pic by Mechmaster - Daleks vs the Drub: http://www.mechmaster.co.uk/cg-lair/daleks/dalek_pic133.htm
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Germy on April 30, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
More interested in a clash of famous TV / Movie armies or just something that would be an interesting contrast?

When I did my Daleks vs Cybermen the idea of putting them up against so 2000ad judges sounded like fun  8)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on April 30, 2015, 05:32:05 PM
More interested in a clash of famous TV / Movie armies or just something that would be an interesting contrast?

When I did my Daleks vs Cybermen the idea of putting them up against so 2000ad judges sounded like fun  8)

An interesting contrast more than anything. Judges sound good. Surprised we've not had more suggestions from comics, books & computer games.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: dexter on April 30, 2015, 05:52:41 PM
The Starship Trooper Earth force ,the Skinnies and maybe the bugs too. What about the MIB, the Asguard or the Jaffa from Stargate 
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Commander Roj on April 30, 2015, 05:54:24 PM
Terry Nation's original ending for the second series of Blake's Seven was for the Liberator crew to be forced into an alliance with Servalan and the Federation to fight an invasion not by shape-changing aliens from Andromeda, but by Daleks.  So that's a possibility, with lots of nice Crooked Dice minis to use.

Or there's the Bash Street Kids.

(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w519/SteveFlanaganUK2/Odds%20and%20Ends/Bash%20Street%20Kids%20vs%20Dalek_zpsh3kalwrj.jpg) (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/SteveFlanaganUK2/media/Odds%20and%20Ends/Bash%20Street%20Kids%20vs%20Dalek_zpsh3kalwrj.jpg.html)

But no-one makes minis of the Bash Street Kids, worse luck!


What a shame that never happened! Having said that, given my opinion of the current flavour of Who, I should be glad that B7 isn't in the mix to be corrupted.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Eric the Shed on April 30, 2015, 06:31:55 PM
Given Daleks can time travel why not pit them up against forces of WW2 - imagine to everybodies surprise if you introduced them to a straightforward WW2 Skirmish game - would the players join forces to contend with this new threat
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: fastolfrus on April 30, 2015, 11:39:03 PM
Given Daleks can time travel why not pit them up against forces of WW2 - imagine to everybodies surprise if you introduced them to a straightforward WW2 Skirmish game - would the players join forces to contend with this new threat

I did a skirmish game with US Rangers racing against Russian commandos to pick up technology from a German rocket base, the underground bunker wasn't just manned by black-uniformed fanatics....
(Background fluff - a small badly damaged scout ship crash lands in the Harz mountains 1934. German military scientists step in, at least one of the "crew" survves and leads local rocket research (to build an escape ship and bring reinforcements to wipe out the planet)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: The Gray Ghost on April 30, 2015, 11:55:39 PM
S.D.Z.A. - Super-Hero Dinosaur Zombie Apocalypse Miniatures have not V for Visitor and not Battlestar Galactica
I think the Hydra Miniatures rangers are nice, very 50s pulp
does the old line of Spugs still exist?
not Starfleet from Victory Miniatures?
John Carter, Bronze Age Miniatures
Spy-Fi from, Copplestone, Crooked Dice, Artizan
Supers, Crossover Miniatures
Cthulhu

Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Diakon on May 01, 2015, 12:14:31 AM
I'd definitely like to see a Judge Dredd VS The Daleks comic booka nd imagine it would work well on the tabletop too.

Or Johnny Alpha & Wulf Sternhammer taking a bounty out on Davros?

Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Duke Donald on May 01, 2015, 01:33:56 AM
The Daleks will happily fight anyone or anything"!
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Michka on May 01, 2015, 09:21:44 AM
I apologize if this is too far off the subject.

A few years ago I wanted to run a Space:1999 role playing game based on Earth after the moon went shooting off into space. The world has been utterly devastated by tidal waves, earthquakes and all manner of environmental havoc. Just as the heroes are getting busy doing rescue missions and making emergency relief runs, a bunch of saucers show up to surround the world. Of course the players, who know Space:1999 better that I do, would be thinking these were the baddies from UFO. (same universe) Imagine their surprise when a load of Daleks came pouring out of those flying saucers, shooting everything in sight.

The game never happened, but it could have been glorious.
 
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Vanvlak on May 01, 2015, 10:23:59 AM
I'd go for:
Dalek civil war- there's a rather nice comic out there: http://www.mechmaster.co.uk/cg-lair/daleks/secemp-index.htm (http://www.mechmaster.co.uk/cg-lair/daleks/secemp-index.htm)
S.H.A.D.O.W. from the Gerry Anderson series UFO
Mars Attacks Martians
War of the Worlds Martians
Orks (why not?)
Austin Powers
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on May 01, 2015, 12:04:38 PM
Some great idead out there. I've especially liked the Daleks vs Judges idea. I think the Judge Dredd vs Aliens crossover comic is one of the best crossovers out there. Now I want them to a Dredd vs Daleks comic.

Vanvlak - some great ideas but you can't get more canonical than Dalek civil war (even though Mechmaster's brilliant comic isn't.)  ;)

Gray Ghost - some great ideas too. Cthulhu hmmm. Well they do have a Dalek at Miskatonic - how do see the Daleks fight the big guy?
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: The_Beast on May 01, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Couldn't you consider Daleks in WWII as a bit canon as well?

Second Skynet troops. They would hate the organic Dalek interiors, and if you use movie terminators, they'd be just the reverse of the mobile trashcans: soft on the outside, crunchy on the inner.

Doug
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Michka on May 01, 2015, 03:33:35 PM
Have you considered how cool Daleks vs Aliens would be as a Space Hulk game? You wouldn't even have to change the rules. I mean, Genestealers are Xenomorphs, and what is the difference between Terminator Space Marines and Daleks? Well, the Daleks have more personality.  ;)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on May 01, 2015, 03:37:42 PM
Have you considered how cool Daleks vs Aliens would be as a Space Hulk game? You wouldn't even have to change the rules. I mean, Genestealers are Xenomorphs, and what is the difference between Terminator Space Marines and Daleks? Well, the Daleks have more personality.  ;)

I have. As it happens I do own 1st Ed Space Hulk. Might pit Marines against the Daleks too.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: freewargamesrules on May 01, 2015, 10:44:19 PM
In the Victory of the Daleks the "Ironsides" were fighting on the British Side

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/976x549/p02byjfk.jpg)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: beefcake on May 02, 2015, 05:40:34 AM
Predator

Austin powers, as said previously, would be awesome.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Chilledenuff on May 02, 2015, 06:48:05 AM
The Red Dwarf crew (if you can find good minis)
Imperials from Star Wars (so many who would win threads on websites, make it work on the tabletop)
Forces from Dune
Batman
Klingons from star trek
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Eric the Shed on May 02, 2015, 10:50:53 AM
This topic pushed me to start up my Dalek Army..thank you

More here on the blog posting
http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/something-very-different-from-shed28mm.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/something-very-different-from-shed28mm.html)

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Dalek/d8_zpsssiwlylp.jpg)
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Onebigriver on May 02, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
This topic pushed me to start up my Dalek Army..thank you

More here on the blog posting
http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/something-very-different-from-shed28mm.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/something-very-different-from-shed28mm.html)

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Dalek/d8_zpsssiwlylp.jpg)


Excellent!
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Wachaza on May 02, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
The Red Dwarf crew (if you can find good minis)
Surpised no-one had done the Dwarfers yet.

The Daleks would fight anyone. Any historical (WWII, cold war, terrorist) or any SF force would do. As long as the opposition have guns or magic/super powers and it's not just a quick "Exterminate!!" for the Daleks anyone is viable for a time travelling foe.
Title: Re: Possible enemies for the Daleks?
Post by: Steve F on May 02, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w519/SteveFlanaganUK2/Odds%20and%20Ends/Dalek%20RT%20cover_edited_zpsc8phrmur.jpg) (http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/SteveFlanaganUK2/media/Odds%20and%20Ends/Dalek%20RT%20cover_edited_zpsc8phrmur.jpg.html)