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Title: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Koroni2001 on May 06, 2015, 10:48:18 AM
Hi everyone
I am looking at gaming the 100yw - crecy and Poitiers period.
I know front rank do lots of 100yw figures.
Can someone suggest the suitable codes for this stage of the 100yw?
I appreciate assistance from all the experts out there!
Cheers
Peter ;)
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Atheling on May 06, 2015, 10:56:26 AM
Hi Peter,

I might be better if you posted up pics and we could say yay or nay..... a lot of folk here have very limited time to answer such a large question  :)

Darrell.

Hi everyone
I am looking at gaming the 100yw - crecy and Poitiers period.
I know front rank do lots of 100yw figures.
Can someone suggest the suitable codes for this stage of the 100yw?
I appreciate assistance from all the experts out there!
Cheers
Peter ;)
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Koroni2001 on May 06, 2015, 11:07:20 AM
Thanks for the response Darrell
I will posts the codes I have based on looking at photos on their web site
It would be quicker than posting photos!
Regards
Peter
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Lowtardog on May 06, 2015, 11:24:58 AM
I would and did use mainly Front Rank for my French Crecy and Poitiers time period army. They are ideal as they have mixed armour and though some Foot and mounted Knights/Men at Arms have White Harness, you will note a lot have heater shields and bucklers which was far less common in the later period of Agincourt

I would say that these are ideal for the period you want to cover
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Koroni2001 on May 06, 2015, 11:37:50 AM
ok thanks guys,
i bought this stuff from another gamer so it has all sorts in there.
my thinking is that for the dismounted men at arms, the first 9 codes (HR25-33) are fine which have cyclas surcoats or short surcoats with varios helmets and swords etc.
I was thinking that figures armed with short lance and no shield, polearms, two handed sword and no shield or white harness are too late.
Any way i have tried attaching some photos to help...
sorry about this but will also post longbow and billmen also...
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Lowtardog on May 06, 2015, 11:39:56 AM
I think they are all fine to use, and they are very nicely painted too
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Lowtardog on May 06, 2015, 11:45:44 AM
If doing French for Crecy your main force will be Genoese xbowmen with mainly mounted knights and MAA however that's not to say you cant fit in foot knights and MAA as otherwise you will be limited to merely pitched battles and your foot knights will be good for skirmish and sieges raids etc
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Koroni2001 on May 06, 2015, 11:50:51 AM
thanks for the speedy response.
And now for th english archers and billmen milita etc.
I assume archers in tunics and hoods etc are fine.
its the others with helmets etc that is aa bit confusing..
comments welcome! :D

BTW i also have the old perry metal bretonnian guisarme figures with kettle hat which i think are great for french milita. Has anyone used the perry bretonnian spearmen in mail for anything?
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: rumacara on May 06, 2015, 12:07:08 PM
Although im not an expert i would avoid using the archers with the armoured legs.
I think they are the only ones outdated, perhaps 1 or 2 helmets too but mixed, i think they will work.
Nice painting by the way. :-*
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: le bon roi rene on May 06, 2015, 12:37:56 PM
I pretty much have the whole line myself. FR makes it tough because the range is all over the map. As has been already stated, most of the archers are a bit late (more mid conflict and not early campaigns). For the first 20 years or so I'd keep archers more poorly armored.

My feeling is that a lot of the infantry is on the cusp of period appropriate. You can probably get away with it. There are plenty of early knights with cyclas or jupons but there are also some decidedly post 1400 poses (avoid all the personality models, obviously).

I'm first and foremost a fan of the Perry's work but I have to admit FR paints up really well. They are chunky, and I don't like their crossbows or horses, but in spite of those things I still think its a solid range.

Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Koroni2001 on May 06, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
Thanks Fred, lowtardog and Darrell.
Fred- I'm glad im not the only one who has problems with sorting through the front rank range!
I think your comments confirm what I thought also..
Generally poorly dressed longbowmen and Knights in mail and plate with shields.
I assume the same with the billmen- meaning less armoured?
I know there were spearman , x bowmen and Pavisers but I dont have any of those figures yet
I was thinking of suitable billmen etc for french militia..

Any thoughts on perry bretonnian spearman?
Many thanks
Peter
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Lowtardog on May 06, 2015, 04:11:57 PM
Also worth checking out are blacktree design historical range but also their men of averaign who are dead ringers for brettonians and match really well with front rank
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Little Odo on May 08, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
Those figures look really nice - especially with your great paint jobs.
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Atheling on May 09, 2015, 04:31:03 AM
I don't know if you have your heart set upon the FR stuff but Claymore Castings have started to produce a Crecy range all based upon contemporaneous evidence. The rage will have some real gems in (I know- I have seen the pics of the upcoming range) and will serve your needs much better than FR. you could even mix and match though there is a size difference. The Claymore Castings also have much more dynamic poses as they were all sculpted by Paul Hicks and Matthew Bickley.

Darrell.

Some examples:

Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: le bon roi rene on May 09, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
Were I starting to collect 14th century from scratch today, I would definitely start with Claymore Castings. They fill a void in the available model timeline very nicely (and with real quality models).

The only reason I haven't added them to my current projects (besides already being awash in models) is that they are very premium priced and there is no way I would escape an order without spending several hundred USDs.
 :'(
Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Atheling on May 09, 2015, 03:30:14 PM
The only reason I haven't added them to my current projects (besides already being awash in models) is that they are very premium priced and there is no way I would escape an order without spending several hundred USDs.

I see your point Fred but I disagree about the pricing. It's the overheads really,. to start a miniature company from scratch seeking out the best mould makers etc and not doing the castings ones self can really add to the costs of the miniatures. Of course you've got to add to that the cost of paying the sculptors etc and the costs start to rocket. Then add to that the costs of the metal......

Basically, you pay for what you get. A company that casts their own models is at a financial advantage to one that does not. The same goes for the making of both master production moulds. It does not work out anywhere near as cheep to do this for ones self. Often, I think, when we think of the price one pays for metal mini's we simply don't take these into account. Claymore Castings is also one of those companies that does not run their production moulds into the ground as some miniature companies have been known to do.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: le bon roi rene on May 09, 2015, 05:26:10 PM
Don't get the wrong idea, Darrell. I'm not busting on them. (but they are premium priced, at least for someone buying from the US). As niche as our hobby is, I don't complain about cottage industry pricing. It is IMHO, a luxury good run by very small operations where no one is getting rich.

I'm just saying that the minute I place an order with them, several hundred dollars would be going on my credit card. lol

Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Atheling on May 10, 2015, 05:39:53 AM
Don't get the wrong idea, Darrell. I'm not busting on them. (but they are premium priced, at least for someone buying from the US). As niche as our hobby is, I don't complain about cottage industry pricing. It is IMHO, a luxury good run by very small operations where no one is getting rich.

I know that Fred. I wasn't baiting you- just merely disagreeing. i suppose it's easy for me to say what I did as I sometimes receive a few free mini's (not as a bribe to promote them[!!]- I'm friends with both the owners of the company).Also, wen i order the postage works out a lot cheaper ten ordering from the ASA.

I'm just saying that the minute I place an order with them, several hundred dollars would be going on my credit card. lol

Funnily enough, I feel the same way about Brigade Games, they have a lot of stuff that I would dearly love to order, the only thing that's held me back are the potential custom costs  :-[.

I suppose that when it comes to buying an army, it's going to cost a lot of money- especially if US customs decides to add duty.

Darrell.
Title: Re: Front rank 100yw
Post by: Koroni2001 on May 11, 2015, 12:37:17 PM
Thanks everyone for your views and comments!
Will have a look at claymore castings also!