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Title: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Silent Invader on June 16, 2015, 06:07:47 PM
Yep, another project.

Much inspired by Dr De'ath and his excellent Sandport topic and facilitated by Brummies' 15mm resources thread.  Thanks guys  :D

This one is meant to be a quickie and is actually a realisation in 15mm now of a project that I'd originally planned to do in 28mm next year.  

The excellent works mentioned above convinced me that what I wanted could be done with 15mm but also quicker and cheaper, requiring less storage space, less play space and quicker to set up.  I have also set out to achieve the 'game in a box'  as initiated by Dr.The Viking quite some time ago.

Progress so far plus some thoughts and intentions have been written up on my project website, which can be found here:

EDIT: BROKEN LINK

This isn't Star Wars.  I know it'll mark me out as a weirdo but I'm not a Star Wars fan.  What I do like is Aliens, Alien 3, Ghosts of Mars, Outland and similar stuff, which all influence this project, which at it's most basic is conflict on an arid mining planet, involving super-cool Rangers, tough-nosed Roughnecks and raging-cultist Wreakers.  

I've made quick progress with building 6 of 30cm sq tiles, which can be laid out in a variety of configurations, comprising a habitation unit and various hills. At some later stage I will likely add another habitation unit and the mine/quarry.

There are a lot more images on the website but here are a few of the WIP, before I apply the filler etc to the foam and then slap on the various sand and crumbled cork textures:

NB1: The satellite dish and solar panels aren't yet fixed, merely loosely positioned for appearance.

NB2: The roofs lift off the buildings but I'm not planning to fit out the interiors.

EDIT: BROKEN LINK

With a couple of minis:

EDIT: BROKEN LINK

More soon.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: commissarmoody on June 16, 2015, 06:17:50 PM
Your off to a great start.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Sangennaru on June 16, 2015, 06:23:20 PM
That's a great start indeed! Where are the doors and the air conditioning units from?

I can send you a few of my doors and windows at shipping cost, if you like! They have not been purchased yet from any company so i'm not bound by any contract!

(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/P1195489.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Brummie on June 16, 2015, 06:35:07 PM
Now that is nice! The little settlement is supber, really like it being built up a hill!  :o

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: gamer Mac on June 16, 2015, 07:02:53 PM
Lovely work :-* :-* :-*
Another one joining the 15 mm band wagon :D
Antenocities for the bits and bobs?
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 16, 2015, 07:10:34 PM
Nice start!

I wish I knew where to get all that stuff.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Commander Roj on June 16, 2015, 08:13:23 PM
That's a great start indeed! Where are the doors and the air conditioning units from?

I can send you a few of my doors and windows at shipping cost, if you like! They have not been purchased yet from any company so i'm not bound by any contract!

(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/P1195489.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack

I like those! How big are the smaller doors/panels in the top left? Could they work for 6mm? (I can tell what the scale on the grid is) 15mm looks good too.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Commander Roj on June 16, 2015, 08:19:20 PM
Yep, another project.

Much inspired by Dr De'ath and his excellent Sandport topic and facilitated by Brummies' 15mm resources thread.  Thanks guys  :D

This one is meant to be a quickie and is actually a realisation in 15mm now of a project that I'd originally planned to do in 28mm next year.  

The excellent works mentioned above convinced me that what I wanted could be done with 15mm but also quicker and cheaper, requiring less storage space, less play space and quicker to set up.  I have also set out to achieve the 'game in a box'  as initiated by Dr.The Viking quite some time ago.

Progress so far plus some thoughts and intentions have been written up on my project website, which can be found here:

http://www.silentinvader.uk/index_w_rrw_index.html (http://www.silentinvader.uk/index_w_rrw_index.html)

This isn't Star Wars.  I know it'll mark me out as a weirdo but I'm not a Star Wars fan.  What I do like is Aliens, Alien 3, Ghosts of Mars, Outland and similar stuff, which all influence this project, which at it's most basic is conflict on an arid mining planet, involving super-cool Rangers, tough-nosed Roughnecks and raging-cultist Wreakers.  

I've made quick progress with building 6 of 30cm sq tiles, which can be laid out in a variety of configurations, comprising a habitation unit and various hills. At some later stage I will likely add another habitation unit and the mine/quarry.

There are a lot more images on the website but here are a few of the WIP, before I apply the filler etc to the foam and then slap on the various sand and crumbled cork textures:

NB1: The satellite dish and solar panels aren't yet fixed, merely loosely positioned for appearance.

NB2: The roofs lift off the buildings but I'm not planning to fit out the interiors.

(http://www.silentinvader.uk/image_w_rrw_terrain_tile_making_08.jpg)

(http://www.silentinvader.uk/image_w_rrw_terrain_tile_making_09.jpg)

(http://www.silentinvader.uk/image_w_rrw_terrain_tile_making_10.jpg)

(http://www.silentinvader.uk/image_w_rrw_terrain_tile_making_11.jpg)

(http://www.silentinvader.uk/image_w_rrw_terrain_tile_making_12.jpg)

With a couple of minis:

(http://www.silentinvader.uk/image_w_rrw_terrain_tile_making_13.jpg)

More soon.


Great project. Looking forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Ray Earle on June 16, 2015, 08:22:10 PM
Great introduction to the project SI. Will be following this with interest.  :D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on June 16, 2015, 08:32:13 PM
Thanks chaps.  :)

It's a hot planet. this one, thus the buildings cut into the lee of the hill for shade.  The minis will also be wearing mask headgear to keep the dust out of their lungs, so no 15mm faces to paint!!  ;) :)

All the resin bits are from Antenociti and can be found in the Governance of Technology section of their website.  The doors (and solar panels) are in 2mm lasered MDF by Mad Mecha Guy.  The small storage tanks are connectors for DIY plastic overflow pipe, and they are a perfect size for the Antenociti fans (from which I'd scraped off the hinge unit).

That's a great start indeed! Where are the doors and the air conditioning units from?

I can send you a few of my doors and windows at shipping cost, if you like! They have not been purchased yet from any company so i'm not bound by any contract!


Thanks Jack, that's a really kind offer and I really like all of what you make   :D  Unfortunately though, I've only got a couple of buildings left to do and I want to keep the parts consistent between them so it wouldn't be right for me to take up your offer.  I do hope you sell them soon as if I'd known about them before starting the build they'd have been perfect.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Captain Blood on June 16, 2015, 08:47:32 PM
Are you sure, Mr M, this isn't just a displacement activity to put off painting that huge pile of lovely 28mm WW1 miniatures you have waiting for you... ?  :D

;)

Great work as usual, of course  :) 
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on June 16, 2015, 08:55:25 PM
Are you sure, Mr M, this isn't just a displacement activity to put off painting that huge pile of lovely 28mm WW1 miniatures you have waiting for you... ?  :D

;)

Darn..... I am revealed!!!!    lol

I have resolved that my mini painting mojo will be in full swing by mid-July and that all 120 of the WW1 minis will be painted by end of August.   ;)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 16, 2015, 10:14:28 PM
Darn..... I am revealed!!!!    lol

I have resolved that my mini painting mojo will be in full swing by mid-July and that all 120 of the WW1 minis will be painted by end of August.   ;)

And Santa and the Easter Bunny paid down their mortgage, had loads of offspring and lived happily forever after.  :-X lol
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Dr DeAth on June 16, 2015, 11:09:25 PM
Impressive start to the project - really like the buildings set into the rocks - may steal/borrow that for bits of my SandPort stuff.

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Mason on June 16, 2015, 11:15:57 PM
That is a great 'look' that you have chosen, with the usual rapid start.
Gonna be another good 'un, I reckon.
 :-* :-*

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: MrHarold on June 17, 2015, 04:08:14 AM
This is looking really great!  Any tips for building, er, buildings like that in the side of the hills?

Also are the hill cork and foam?

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 17, 2015, 04:46:39 AM
 lol lol lol

You're so weak  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on June 17, 2015, 04:53:28 AM
Thanks* all  :D

*and yes, Jimbob, that includes you!  Your mockery motivates me  ;) :D


Any tips for building, er, buildings like that in the side of the hills?
Also are the hill cork and foam?

Sure thing, Mr H, I'll add something shortly.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on June 17, 2015, 05:43:27 AM
A run through of of how I built the buildings into the hill.

NB: I use Evo-Stik weatherproof wood adhesive rather than standard PVA: it is relatively expensive but it is excellent - grippy, strong and water-tight.

Btw - the terrain is on 30cm sq 6mm MDF of which both sides were sprayed with Plastikote Matt sealer before commencing construction

1. Decided on the building height. This was influenced by mini height, as roofs were to lift off to accommodate minis.  

2. The building height determined the 'level' height for the hillside.  The back of the hill was built up using wooden battens glued into position.

Bottom left tile in this image:

EDIT: BROKEN LINK

You can see from the sketching on the tile that I was going to have 5 buildings but changed my mind, as I decided I wanted overhanging roofs and wall buttresses, which ate into the space.

3.  Built up the volume of the hill by using Soudal expanding foam (if you plan to use it or similar, do check the instructions and safety notice on the can!).  

EDIT: BROKEN LINK

4. Meanwhile, the basics of the buildings had been constructed using 5mm foamboard

5. The expanded foam was cut away to accommodate the buildings

EDIT: BROKEN LINK

6.  The buildings were glued into the hillside after their various accessories had been added.  It wasn't quite as simple as that, as quite a bit of testing and dry-fitting was required.

The cliffs were faced with pieces of cork

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7. The hill slopes and tops had a coating of general purpose wall filler (the image is of a different section of hill for illustrative purposes)

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8. Next steps will be to tidy gaps with Milliput then add the surface textures (sand, ground cork, etc) then paint (NB: The foam must be covered as it isn't UV stable)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: MrHarold on June 17, 2015, 05:49:01 AM
Excellent... thanks!
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 17, 2015, 05:57:55 AM
Joking aside (only for a short while  ;)) I like the building layout, much better then just plonked on the tabletop  8)

Now then, I'm assuming that the spray sealer on both sides of the MDF has worked before and this isn't just an experiment?

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on June 17, 2015, 07:31:36 AM
I'd experimented before.... Sort of.

I generously sprayed one side of each of the six tiles, which promptly started to curl, so promptly flipped them and sprayed the other, which promptly straightened them out.

That said, I did wonder if the expanding foam would curl the MDF, as I hadn't tried it before (Captain Blood having suggested it in his excellent Cave Wars build thread). So far though, all has seemed fine with the bases of the tiles staying flat and distortion free without being weighted down.

The next test will be when I apply the water-based glue/sand texture coat, though I've done this before on solvent-painted MDF without ill effect.

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Andym on June 17, 2015, 09:01:52 AM
Mate, thats a fecking great start!! :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Zaheer on June 17, 2015, 10:29:11 AM
Wonderful project so far, I think the half-buried buildings show a keen eye for pleasing dimensions and arrangements, subscribed!
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: MrHarold on June 17, 2015, 01:24:48 PM
Did you have any issues cutting the foam?
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Damas on June 17, 2015, 01:29:52 PM
Looking good SI!

Simple query, where did you get the 30cm square mdf from?  Did you cut it down yourself or is there a convenient stockist?

I'd like to get some baseboards for my bits but if the edges are off by a couple of mil so there's a gap between the boards, that would really annoy me.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on June 17, 2015, 03:10:48 PM
Thanks folks  :D

No issues cutting the foam, I just use a standard 9mm segmented blade craft knife then extend the blade its full length for nice wide cuts. The foam has more air in it than say pink foam and so offers less resistance.

The mdf was from my local B&Q shed that offers a free cutting service. Be warned though that you are subject to the competence of the operator as I've had them come out with sides in the range of 28mm to 32mm! Not usually a problem though as the corners are still square.

Edited for gibberish
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Malamute on June 17, 2015, 03:43:20 PM
Looks great so far. ;D

 How many configurations do you have for the terrain squares?  :D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Silent Invader on June 17, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
Looks great so far. ;D

 How many configurations do you have for the terrain squares?  :D

I thought you'd ask that!  :D

I haven't worked out the number of playable but different combinations as yet as there are two more tiles to add: 2 more buildings and the mine. The mine is waiting on BLAM as I want to see how Cave Wars plays before deciding on tunnels or a quarry.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 17, 2015, 06:40:24 PM
I can sort you out Kev for 300mm boards when I get back  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Damas on June 17, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
Thanks Jim.  I'm assuming you're in the land of the rising sun and awesome food.

Let me know about those CAD files I sent you.

And now we return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Commander Roj on June 19, 2015, 03:48:24 PM
That's a great start indeed! Where are the doors and the air conditioning units from?

I can send you a few of my doors and windows at shipping cost, if you like! They have not been purchased yet from any company so i'm not bound by any contract!

(http://www.thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/P1195489.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack

Could I purchase some of the windows to use as 6mm sci Fi doors? I have some difficulty securing appropriate doors in this scale. I like the 3 pieces just in from the 100 marking on the board and the row of 3 in the just up from the bottom row of 3 windows. Hope you can help!
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers (conflict on an arid planet) WIP
Post by: Sangennaru on June 19, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
Could I purchase some of the windows to use as 6mm sci Fi doors? I have some difficulty securing appropriate doors in this scale. I like the 3 pieces just in from the 100 marking on the board and the row of 3 in the just up from the bottom row of 3 windows. Hope you can help!


i think i could make proper scifi doors if you like! it's a very simlpe modelling indeed, i can do it and put them on shapeways at printing cost, if you like!
PM me if you are interested, i don't want to hide the super-cool table with this OT here ^_^
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Silent Invader on June 20, 2015, 01:50:04 PM
 :)

Some progress

I sealed the foam and filler edges with glue then used milliput to align matching faces (where faces had a number of possible matches, I used one as a control)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_20_06_15_2_20_37_1.jpg)

Then two coats of the basic texture (beach sand, glue, a little water) with a more dilute first coat to provide a key (the buildings only got the first coat)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_20_06_15_2_20_37_0.jpg)

With the mini selections now made, here's a comparison (but ignore relative size of hands and heads as no flesh will be showing: gloves, masks and helmets/hoods for all)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_20_06_15_2_20_37_2.jpg)

L to R:

Critical Mass Games, ARC Fleet Recon
Brigade Models, Armed Tank Crew in Helmets
Real Partha Europe, Sinners
Ground Zero Games, Light Duty Vaccine-Suits

NB: the BM and GZG minis have a 0.25mm plasticard insert beneath the base, for height equivalence

L to R:

Rangers X 20
Roughnecks X 30
Wreakers X 40
VIPs/Scientists/etc
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Silent Invader on June 20, 2015, 03:27:55 PM
Another possible layout

Tiles not quite square as the table is uneven!

Just tufts, pipes, cables and humanistic debris to add.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_20_06_15_4_25_16_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_20_06_15_4_25_16_0.jpg)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 20, 2015, 03:32:07 PM
Coming together nicely  :D

You really need to change the scale though  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Andym on June 20, 2015, 08:13:03 PM
Why? When he and Mark are finished they be able to join together to make a cracking board!

Brilliant work bud!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Brummie on June 20, 2015, 09:22:17 PM
Coming together nicely  :D

You really need to change the scale though  ;D

cheers

James

Get with the times man! 15mm or bust!
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Constable Bertrand on June 21, 2015, 12:38:16 AM
Nice work Steve!

The expanding foam/cork works well. 8)

I've been using 3mm mdf without sealing - and have experienced the warping you mention. :( might give that a go, or a wooden frame, or just switch to 3mm perspex.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Silent Invader on June 21, 2015, 01:49:40 AM
Thanks Guys  :D

Well it was Captain Blood who flagged the possibilities of expanding foam and I'm glad I followed his lead  ;)  :D

Btw Matt, it's possible to warp Perspex and other plastics as well.  Warping can be caused by uneven tension inside the material, or outside it, or both. With plastics its what's stuck to it that can make the difference, for example, I believe that superglue will contract when it cures, as I've had warping with sand and superglue on plastic. Static grass paper with any 'wet' glue has also lead to distortion, as the backing paper stretches when wet then tightens as it dries.

The wood adhesive I use is quite stable - when using it to make rivers etc there's not a lot of shrinkage.  As I had to add a little water to the sand texture mix I was concerned that some shrinkage and distortion might occur but all seems to have turned out ok.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Dr DeAth on June 21, 2015, 08:41:09 AM
Looking good, that expanding foam has worked out really well. I'm tempted to give it a go myself.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Silent Invader on June 22, 2015, 03:02:56 PM
If nothing else Mark it's well worth the experiment! Though to be honest I was over enthusiastic in application and do had to carve loads away.

The terrain has now been finished - just the painting and tufts to add. The WIP images are really a reference for me as at some later stage I will add the quarry/mine tile and another with a couple more habitation units and a workshop/lab.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_48_58_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_48_58_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_48_58_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_48_58_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_48_58_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_47_46_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_47_46_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_47_46_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_47_45_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_47_45_0.jpg)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Malamute on June 22, 2015, 04:45:14 PM
Great stuff Steve. The mining installation looks brilliant with all the pipes, cables etc. :-*

So are you brining this to BLAM now instead of Belgium, or perhaps both ??? lol
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Mason on June 22, 2015, 04:51:42 PM
Looking good!
It will look even better when you have coloured it in.
 8) 8)

Tommy is right about those cables, they do set it all off a treat.
 :-*

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Silent Invader on June 22, 2015, 04:54:53 PM
Thanks  :)

So are you brining this to BLAM now instead of Belgium, or perhaps both ??? lol

15mm at BLAM? That's allowed?!  lol

Seriously though,  Belgium has precedence but I can probably prep and paint the 100 or so 15mm minis at the same time as I prep and paint the 120 or so 28mm. We'll see........
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Malamute on June 22, 2015, 05:00:13 PM

15mm at BLAM? That's allowed?!  lol



I know, standards are slipping, as we have in the past allowed 1/300th Star Wars, so 15mm is a considerable improvement on that lol
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Silent Invader on June 22, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
Looking good!
It will look even better when you have coloured it in.
 8) 8)

Tommy is right about those cables, they do set it all off a treat.
 :-*



  :D

I'm thinking red for the general power cables, white for the comms cables and blue for the wet utilities cables........ Just thought I'd flag that.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Mason on June 22, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
I know, standards are slipping, as we have in the past allowed 1/300th Star Wars, so 15mm is a considerable improvement on that lol

And you forgot those ridiculously large gladiators that some idiots brought along a few years ago!
 ;D

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: gamer Mac on June 22, 2015, 06:04:11 PM
I vote for 15 mm at BLAM
Cracking work Steve putting my 15 mm project to shame.
What rules are you thinking of?
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Malamute on June 22, 2015, 06:05:48 PM
And you forgot those ridiculously large gladiators that some idiots brought along a few years ago!
 ;D



 lol

Yep, what is the world coming too ;)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Silent Invader on June 22, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
 :D

Rules will be a rewrite of my Stand Up Fight or a Bug Hunt? that were used for the Aliens games I took to BLAM a few years back.

This project will become what I wanted SUFOABH to be though more akin to John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars than Ridley Scott's Aliens.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: commissarmoody on June 22, 2015, 06:29:40 PM
That settlement keeps getting better and better. Who are you using for your 15mm figs.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Silent Invader on June 22, 2015, 08:11:32 PM
Thanks  :D

With the mini selections now made, here's a comparison (but ignore relative size of hands and heads as no flesh will be showing: gloves, masks and helmets/hoods for all)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_20_06_15_2_20_37_2.jpg)

L to R:

Critical Mass Games, ARC Fleet Recon
Brigade Models, Armed Tank Crew in Helmets
Real Partha Europe, Sinners
Ground Zero Games, Light Duty Vaccine-Suits

NB: the BM and GZG minis have a 0.25mm plasticard insert beneath the base, for height equivalence

L to R:

Rangers X 20
Roughnecks X 30
Wreakers X 40
VIPs/Scientists/etc


To add a bit more to the above  here's some more background from my website:

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Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers is a 15mm Sci-Fi wargaming project that deals with conflict on an arid mining planet.

The home-world of Earth has been so ravaged of mineral and other resources that mining teams - the Roughnecks - have been estabished on other planets, where they conduct themselves with little regard for anything and respect only that which is tougher.

Some Roughnecks, having become unhinged by the extreme risks and isolation of their work, find solace in a dangerous mix of drugs and cultism that both fuels and releases a lust to destroy what they were part of. These so-called Wreakers are a threat to everyone and everything.

The Rangers are an interplanetary patrol that is tasked with keeping the order necessary for productivity. They are structured similar to mobile infantry.

The game plays out on a hot, dusty, rocky planet that has little vegetation. The Roughnecks are housed in small communities that service the nearby mines while the Rangers conduct their patrols in small, mobile and lightly-armed dropships.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain WIP & Mini Comparison
Post by: Commander Roj on June 22, 2015, 09:02:44 PM
Thanks  :D

To add a bit more to the above  here's some more background from my website:


May I make a constructive suggestion you may feel free to take or leave at your discretion. I gave some vaguely similar terrain/buildings. Vaguely. But he environment is similar. Had you considered piling up some sand banks in the general direction the notional prevailing wind comes from? Just some drifts against the buildings etc based on the wind coming from a particular direction. Not burying, just what you might see against wooden  groynes at the beach. And against roof fittings too. Hope you don't mind the suggestion. Worked a treat on my buildings, I thought.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Silent Invader on June 22, 2015, 10:07:59 PM
Thanks for the suggestion CR  :). I shall give it some thought (though, it has to be said, this evening I painted the base coat and mid coat).

Edit: I did previously consider dust storms in the style of the kirk Russell movie (Soldier?) but decided to keep the weather a bit more benign (though that's not to say there wouldn't be wind as you suggest). Cheers
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Andym on June 23, 2015, 07:11:12 AM
WOW! I can't wait to see some paint on that outpost! I love how everything is "plugged in".
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 23, 2015, 07:40:56 AM
Awesome work mate  8) 8) 8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - Terrain finished to prepaint stage
Post by: Commander Roj on June 24, 2015, 12:01:24 PM
Thanks for the suggestion CR  :). I shall give it some thought (though, it has to be said, this evening I painted the base coat and mid coat).

Edit: I did previously consider dust storms in the style of the kirk Russell movie (Soldier?) but decided to keep the weather a bit more benign (though that's not to say there wouldn't be wind as you suggest). Cheers

Stick with your vision, it's a great project!
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Silent Invader on June 24, 2015, 06:36:46 PM
Thanks folks  :D

Groundwork is now painted (and since the photo I've added about 15 tufts to each tile)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_24_06_15_7_32_23.jpg)

Next up is the painting of the settlement
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Dr DeAth on June 24, 2015, 06:56:05 PM
I'm liking that a lot, I need to get my finger out and make some hills for my project.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Silent Invader on June 24, 2015, 06:59:26 PM
Thanks Mark: you're project was my inspiration  ;) :D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 25, 2015, 02:17:48 AM
Looking good mate if a bit shiney  ???

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2015, 06:07:18 AM
Not sure what you mean by shiney, James. Glossy, new, clean, smooth, etc?  ??? Much appreciated  :)

Edit: just had a thought.... The final highlight was in Off White ..... Maybe that looks like shine (reflection) in the photo?
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Malamute on June 25, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
I'm liking that a lot, I need to get my finger out and make some hills for my project.

It certainly has the look of another planet about it.  :)

How quickly you have progressed this Steve, great work ;D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2015, 11:49:05 AM
Thanks Nick  :)

The smaller scale makes for fast work.... if for 28mm the 6 tiles would have taken a lot longer, what with significantly more being required for the same play space.  And there's only one complicated tile (the buildings), the rest were really speedy/easy.

I shall try prepping and painting the minis at the same time as I do a similar number of 28s - I'm reckoning on about a 1/4 of the time/effort required but we shall see.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Malamute on June 25, 2015, 12:11:35 PM
Looking forward to seeing the figures next (after the mining installation is completed) ;D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2015, 01:23:26 PM
Thinking about it and now that I am at a PC, I'm not sure that the colours have transposed so well from real life to image

Here's another attempt, this time with tufts  ;)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_25_06_15_2_20_52.jpg)

Edit: Damn photography! Still doesn't look right on my monitor.  It's influenced by the desert near El Paso, Texas.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 25, 2015, 01:56:18 PM
I think your tufts might be a little bit too regular in their spacing  :?

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 24/6 Groundwork painted
Post by: Silent Invader on June 25, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
I think your tufts might be a little bit too regular in their spacing  :?

cheers

James

 :)

Doubled the quantity:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_25_06_15_4_59_46.jpg)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Silent Invader on June 30, 2015, 03:47:19 PM
The first phase of the terrain is now finished, for a 60cm x 90cm board that can be laid out in a number of ways.

For the habitation area, most of the component parts are off-world prefabrications used in conjunction with local bulk-fill and rendering. Power cables are red, comms cables are green, water processing and storage tanks/pipes are blue and chemicals/fuel are indicated by yellow.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_08_00_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_37_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_37_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_36_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_36_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_36_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_06_27_4.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_06_27_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_27_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_27_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_07_27_0.jpg)

Phase 2 of the terrain will follow at some later stage and will add two more 30x30 tiles (to the right in the following map, which shows the existing tiles in a different layout) that will comprise a quarry or mine and an additional group of buildings with a workshop or lab.


(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_30_06_15_4_08_00_1.jpg)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 30, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
Looks the bizz and your spreadsheet quality has improved  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Dr. The Viking on June 30, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Excellent!

Who needs 28s!
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: commissarmoody on June 30, 2015, 04:52:37 PM
Don't forget a green house/hydroponics for fresh vegetables and the like. :D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Commander Roj on June 30, 2015, 06:33:52 PM
Don't forget a green house/hydroponics for fresh vegetables and the like. :D

These are wreckers and roughnecks! They don't EAT vegetables!
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Captain Blood on June 30, 2015, 06:57:25 PM
Looks very good Steve. And envisioned and put together at lightning speed.
I think we must all just face the facts, that you like building terrain much more than you like painting figures  ;)
(Me too in some ways - maybe we should give up wargaming and take up model railways instead.  :D)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Mason on June 30, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Looks bloody brilliant.
 :-* :-*

And about time too.
 :D ;)



I think we must all just face the facts, that you like building terrain much more than you like painting figures  ;)
(Me too in some ways - maybe we should give up wargaming and take up model railways instead.  :D)

I should join that club.
After terrain, I prefer putty pushing, with figure painting a distant third....
Not into trains, though....

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Dr DeAth on June 30, 2015, 10:15:08 PM
That's come together nicely, now paint up the figures and we can have a game at BLAM! :)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Andym on July 01, 2015, 06:59:08 AM
That's 'da bomb!' as I believe the young kids are saying! ;)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 01, 2015, 07:23:00 AM
That's 'da bomb!' as I believe the young kids are saying! ;)

 lol funny boy

cheers

James
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Malamute on July 01, 2015, 08:23:16 AM
Great stuff, Now lets see some figures! ;D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Silent Invader on July 01, 2015, 09:04:27 AM
Thanks chaps  :D

Well, the table has now been cleared and is readied to prep minis...... Quite a few of the minis will need a smidgen of greenstuff to cover faces with masks..... While I truly admire what Dr.De'ath has achieved in painting his 15s to 28s standards, I won't be painting faces!  ;). I've also bought some GW washes, which will be an interesting try-out.

Do I prefer making terrain to painting minis? Well the evidence would certainly suggest so!  But in reality it's not quite as simple as that.  What I really don't seem to be able to motivate myself to do is paint minis without both the gaming mechanic and scenic context pretty clear in my head.  I feel that I paint minis better and quicker if I have a clear purpose for them.  Incidentally, I did once have a railway but found that hobby to be too static so broke it up and/or sold it when finished.  :D

Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Mason on July 01, 2015, 10:19:44 AM
That's 'da bomb!' as I believe the young kids are saying! ;)

Init doe?
 8)





Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Dr DeAth on July 01, 2015, 12:35:36 PM
While I truly admire what Dr.De'ath has achieved in painting his 15s to 28s standards, I won't be painting faces!  ;).


I don't paint the faces, I just paint them flesh and wash them with GW flesh wash (and then touch in the nose and cheeks when they're dry).   :D



Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Silent Invader on July 01, 2015, 02:10:51 PM
I don't paint the faces, I just paint them flesh and wash them with GW flesh wash (and then touch in the nose and cheeks when they're dry).   :D





Really?! Then it's very effective.  :)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Damas on July 01, 2015, 05:27:38 PM
I don't paint the faces, I just paint them flesh and wash them with GW flesh wash (and then touch in the nose and cheeks when they're dry).   :D
Then he paints in the eyes, adds the five o'clock shadow, teeth and the occasional interesting scar or mole.  ::)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Dr DeAth on July 01, 2015, 09:56:14 PM
Then he paints in the eyes, adds the five o'clock shadow, teeth and the occasional interesting scar or mole.  ::)

I only did the five o'clock shadow twice, I do paint lips and the odd scar, but I never paint the eyes.  It's mostly washes - honest :)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Damas on July 02, 2015, 07:04:12 AM
I only did the five o'clock shadow twice, I do paint lips and the odd scar, but I never paint the eyes.  It's mostly washes - honest :)
See!  The truth will'out.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Silent Invader on December 12, 2015, 02:00:46 PM
I've decided to abandon this project (Old West and Sicily 1943, both in 28mm, will henceforth satisfy my 'arid' terrain urges).  So I thought I'd start by listing the 6 terrain tiles for sale. They've been carefully wrapped and boxed for storage but can I find them........ Agh, no! The hunt continues.....
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Major_Gilbear on December 12, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
I don't know how I missed this thread earlier, but I have to say that this looks amazing! Well done!  8)
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Silent Invader on December 12, 2015, 05:05:18 PM
I don't know how I missed this thread earlier, but I have to say that this looks amazing! Well done!  8)

Thanks Major, I just wish I could find it!!!!!  o_o :D
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: MrHarold on December 13, 2015, 04:15:04 AM
That looks so excellent!

What did you use for the cabling? A wonderful effect.
Title: Re: 15mm Rangers Roughnecks & Wreakers - UD 30/6 Terrain & buildings finished
Post by: Silent Invader on December 13, 2015, 04:32:48 AM
Thanks MrH  :D

The cabling is just solder painted with acrylics. You can see it in this WIP shot:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/22/2031_22_06_15_3_48_58_3.jpg)