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Title: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: guitarheroandy on June 18, 2015, 07:00:05 PM
I bought a load of Oldhammer Elves of EBAY a couple of years ago with the original intention of painting them up to add to my 90s High Elves. However, after painting the general, it all stalled.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago Dan Mersey sent me a draft copy of his upcoming Osprey release 'Dragon Rampant' as a 'thank you' for play testing his Colonial rules and I got the Fantasy bug again. So I decided to drag the Oldhammer Elves out and sort out a classic Elf army for those rules. Those old 80s sculpts just scream 'Wood Elf', so that's what I decided on. Accordingly, I rebased the General I'd already painted and refreshed his colour scheme to be more 'Wood Elf', using a host of greens, plus ochre and terracotta. Then I looked at the armoured knights I had begun all those months ago. I had already done all the mail, plus the armour plates on the horses, so although I've largely abandoned the 'Dallimore' painting approach due to worsening eyesight, I decided I'd press on and complete them in that style, leaving the archers, close-combat infantry and war dancers to be done in my 'dip and highlights' style. Here's the result on the first two cavalry (plus the General). I was pleased to pick up some 90s GW Wood Elf decals off EBAY and they really make the shields, I think... The General can be fielded as a 'singled model unit' functioning like a unit of 6 knights by himself, or can be fielded with these two knights to be a 'reduced model unit', functioning as a unit of 6 knights normally would. I intend to paint another 4 knights to give me lots of options going forward, but they don't half take ages to do!!! I have a unit of armoured infantry and a unit of archers in progress too...

I hope you like the pics...
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Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: majorsmith on June 18, 2015, 07:17:52 PM
Lovely stuff
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Faust23 on June 18, 2015, 07:44:28 PM
Looking good! I'm starting to prep & prime all of this range too. I love to see other people's work on my favorite Elf models.  Keep the pics coming!  :-*
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Quendil on June 18, 2015, 08:00:25 PM
Great work
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Vanvlak on June 18, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
VERY nicely done. Splendid show.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Vermis on June 18, 2015, 08:17:30 PM
Those shields are lush.  :D All the greens and gold look good too. Great all over.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago Dan Mersey sent me a draft copy of his upcoming Osprey release 'Dragon Rampant' as a 'thank you' for play testing his Colonial rules

Luckaay...

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Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Neldoreth on June 18, 2015, 08:36:30 PM
Excellent! Inspiring stuff.

Dragon Rampant eh? A fantasy version of Lion Rampant?

Thanks
n
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Lowtardog on June 18, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
They look great, think lion rampant has a real oldhammer feel, just finished my Celtos firbolg for use with lion rampant, itching to give it a go. You will have to let us know how it plays
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Mason on June 18, 2015, 08:55:35 PM
Lovely work!
Proper old skool goodness.
 :-* :-*

I have that general figure, one of my all time favourites, and am trying to work him into my Melnibonean cavalry.
Very inspiring.
 8)


Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Little Odo on June 18, 2015, 09:10:47 PM
That horse mail is fantastic  :o
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: tin shed gamer on June 18, 2015, 09:14:13 PM
Nicely done,some of my personal favourite miniatures.
Mark.
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Duncan McDane on June 18, 2015, 10:42:38 PM
Well done. You gave them the paintjob these great classics deserve  :).
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 19, 2015, 01:22:47 AM
Great painting on some classic minis!
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Arundel on June 19, 2015, 03:24:21 AM
They look business!
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Ray Earle on June 19, 2015, 06:12:57 AM
Very nice paintwork.  :D

Those figures bring back find memories.
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: DeafNala on June 19, 2015, 11:37:07 AM
The Ancient Pointy Eared Ones look WONDERFUL. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: guitarheroandy on June 19, 2015, 03:58:16 PM
Many thanks for positive feedback!

Yes, Dragon Rampant is the fantasy version of Lion Rampant. It plays pretty much identically in terms of basic mechanics - very minor differences, plus a host of additional fantasy elements to add in (including magic).
I think the key thing to do is to try to customise the troops to fit the typical stereotypes, e.g. add 'sharpshooter' (+1 to hit) and 'fleet foot' (move through difficult terrain without penalty) for Wood Elf archers... Make Black Orcs 'offensive' foot, rather than typical spearmen, so they attack better...

Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant ( Big Pics)
Post by: Thew1 on June 21, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
Lovely stuff! I hadn't seen those old wood elf cavalry before. They look superb painted like that. Can't wait to see the finished retinue in it's entirety.
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: guitarheroandy on July 01, 2015, 07:16:51 PM
Here's a unit of 'Elite Foot' for my Dragon Rampant Wood Elves. The unit was painted differently to the knights, as I undercoated white. The mail was then painted black and dry brushed with whatever GW currently call the old Boltgun Metal and Chainmail. I then base coated everything else with mid-tone colours before brushing on Army Painter Strong Tone dip. i left this 48 hours before dullcoting the models. I then highlighted up using the base coat colour plus an extra lighter highlight on everything. This is slightly different to my usual dip and highlight approach, which base coats with the lightest shade and only highlights once with that same shade. However, I think this new method looks closer to my old Dallimore-esque technique - not quite as good, but much closer! The shields were layer painted - never use dip on shields!!

The models have mostly been converted with wire spear shafts and spearheads from the current High Elf spearmen, or similar...I got them from one of the online 'bits' people... I bought a couple of the spearmen damaged off EBAY with knackered swords so decided to buy and convert...

The pics were a bit rushed, but I hope you get the idea.
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In game terms they function just like Foot Men-at-Arms in Lion Rampant and can be used to represent a prince and his bodyguard, either as a unit of 6 like this or as a unit of 3 with each counting as having 2 wounds. I think I'll field them in a unit of 6 as they look better that way.

Next up, the first unit of archers...
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: DeafNala on July 01, 2015, 08:18:54 PM
The Elven Elite look appropriately OUTSTANDING...WONDERFUL brushwork & color choices once more. The six pointy ears are an attractive unit AND appearance is The Thing. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: affun on July 01, 2015, 09:40:46 PM
Good stuff.

I am also looking towards Dragon Rampant, as my collection of painted fantasy grows. There's something about the unit sizes and force organisation of that game that just seems neat.

The spear elves look great - Your technique sounds very similar to my own (Basecoat, wash, basecolour highlight, extra highlight) and the results definitely work great! Looking forward to seeing even more stuff :)

(Oh, that huge banner is also way cool.)
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: guitarheroandy on July 01, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
Thanks guys! :D

Yes, the banner was challenging, but fun to paint.
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: tin shed gamer on July 01, 2015, 10:46:31 PM
A man after my own heart,look forward to seeing more.
Mark
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: Faust23 on July 02, 2015, 03:01:17 AM
Great conversion and paint work my friend!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 02, 2015, 05:47:04 AM
Very old school cool Andy  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: Ray Earle on July 02, 2015, 11:29:27 AM
Bloody lovely.

I've got a few Oldhammer figures that would fit seamlessly into Dragon Rampant.  ;)
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: Vermis on July 02, 2015, 12:08:25 PM
Nice! The spearheads fit very well. Can't make out the joins.

Going back to the first minis: no gaming problems with multibased or counts-as-several minis?
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: powerfrog99 on July 02, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
Lovely stuff, old nice models nicely painted  :o :o

Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Oldhammer Wood Elves for Dragon Rampant (Update p2 1.7.15)
Post by: guitarheroandy on July 02, 2015, 07:41:18 PM
Nice! The spearheads fit very well. Can't make out the joins.

Going back to the first minis: no gaming problems with multibased or counts-as-several minis?

No, the author deals with the former in the rules and the latter is essential if you wish to include big nasty beasties like Trolls, Treemen, Demons, etc.