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Title: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on August 09, 2015, 12:31:19 PM
The next supplement for Frostgrave will be Thaw of the Lich Lord, due out 20th November 2015. There will be new figures, including a plastic box set, coming out with it.

We are planning a mini-Nickstarter pre-order campaign.

So keeping that in mind, save your pre-orders for us, hold off Amazon, it'll be worth it.

Note the Nickstarter will be available from your FLGS as well as directly from North Star. Chat to them about it next time you are in.

Nick


Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Calmdown on August 09, 2015, 12:40:14 PM
How exciting!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: mweaver on August 09, 2015, 01:33:09 PM
Excellent.  I cleverly managed to miss the last Nickstarter, so I will keep both eyes peeled for this one.

Although generally both my eyes point in the same direction, so I am not sure how much that will help.

Any clues on the plastic box?  Cuuuuuultists maybe?  Wizzards perhaps?

-Michael
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Awesomeshotdude on August 09, 2015, 02:44:17 PM
We are planning a mini-Nickstarter pre-order campaign.

Sign me up for everything...

HMmmm, if the release date is 20th Nov give or take, I guess the Nickstarter will kick off around early/mid Oct or so...so potentially in around 7-8 weeks?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: marcusluis on August 09, 2015, 02:56:00 PM
Cool, Cool..!!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Psychopomp on August 09, 2015, 04:08:30 PM
Any clues on the plastic box?  Cuuuuuultists maybe?  Wizzards perhaps?

If the box set is multipart, generic cultists with robes and hoods, I'll buy several!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on August 09, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
Cool. Will be all over this like a rash.  :D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on August 09, 2015, 05:21:05 PM
I was asked this question:
A few of us did the Nickstarter here, but then Amazon sells the book for $17. Why should I join this time & not just buy through Amazon!?

This was my answer:
Because the money that is made by North Star selling copies of Frostgrave is used to pay for Frostgrave figures. It's used to promote Frostgrave and develop the hobby of playing the game, modelling the figures and painting the figures. The money made by Amazon goes into shareholders pockets. If that doesn't matter to you, sure, save yourself a couple of bucks. But don't ask 'what happened to the hobby' when it dies because there is no money to pay the creative people who make the stuff we like.

Am I making too much of an issue about this? Don't get me wrong, I've used Amazon myself, but I just don't think it's the place to buy Hobby product. I mostly used Amazon for books and dvds, but that is because Amazon have already assassinated the high street bookshops and music shops, leaving one little choice but to buy online. I just don't want to see our hobby to go the same way.

Example. I'm attending Partizan, the show in Newark, at the beginning of September. I'll have a small stand selling Frostgrave, showing off the painted figures used in the photos and be there to chat to people. We'll have a participation game on another table where you can join in and learn the game. If all the sales for the rulebooks go through Amazon, hows this stuff going to carry on? Amazon won't fund it. An extreme scenario I admit, but look at Bookshops. We only have Waterstones left in Nottingham. If that goes, who'll host author signings etc in our town?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Harry on August 09, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
I was asked this question:
A few of us did the Nickstarter here, but then Amazon sells the book for $17. Why should I join this time & not just buy through Amazon!?

This was my answer:
Because the money that is made by North Star selling copies of Frostgrave is used to pay for Frostgrave figures. It's used to promote Frostgrave and develop the hobby of playing the game, modelling the figures and painting the figures. The money made by Amazon goes into shareholders pockets. If that doesn't matter to you, sure, save yourself a couple of bucks. But don't ask 'what happened to the hobby' when it dies because there is no money to pay the creative people who make the stuff we like.

Am I making too much of an issue about this? Don't get me wrong, I've used Amazon myself, but I just don't think it's the place to buy Hobby product. I mostly used Amazon for books and dvds, but that is because Amazon have already assassinated the high street bookshops and music shops, leaving one little choice but to buy online. I just don't want to see our hobby to go the same way.

Example. I'm attending Partizan, the show in Newark, at the beginning of September. I'll have a small stand selling Frostgrave, showing off the painted figures used in the photos and be there to chat to people. We'll have a participation game on another table where you can join in and learn the game. If all the sales for the rulebooks go through Amazon, hows this stuff going to carry on? Amazon won't fund it. An extreme scenario I admit, but look at Bookshops. We only have Waterstones left in Nottingham. If that goes, who'll host author signings etc in our town?
Good answer!
I went "all in" with the last Nickstarter .... did I want everything that was included? ... NO. I just wanted to support the endevour ... someone doing something genuinely exciting in the hobby.

Same with the Reaper BONES ... did I want every figure? .... No. I just wanted to support their aim of making some great minis available in plastic at a great price.

We all make the world the way it is. Either we support stuff like this or we don't get more stuff like this.

Anyone who gets a few more fantasy sculpts out of Copplestone gets my full support. :D

Look forward to any new releases for this game .... if Nickstarters is the way you want to go ...


BRING IT ON! :D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: pancakeonions on August 09, 2015, 07:57:06 PM
Yea, not to take this too far off the OP, but I also preordered via the Northstar NS and joked with my friends that it would have been 20-30% cheaper via online game stores later (and I live in the US, where these things tend to be very inexpensive relatively speaking).  But I was very happy to support the hobby and Northstar.  I want to see more cool NS FG products!

Hint: if the game does well, you should produce a deck of spell cards for your wizards.  I paid through the nose to have 'em custom printed via an online game printer studio!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: robh on August 09, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
Another 'Nickstarter' is all well and good, if next time packets arrive without broken and missing items.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Harry on August 09, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
Yea, not to take this too far off the OP, but I also preordered via the Northstar NS and joked with my friends that it would have been 20-30% cheaper via online game stores later (and I live in the US, where these things tend to be very inexpensive relatively speaking).  But I was very happy to support the hobby and Northstar.  I want to see more cool NS FG products!

Hint: if the game does well, you should produce a deck of spell cards for your wizards.  I paid through the nose to have 'em custom printed via an online game printer studio!
Can't get a printer in the UK to quote me a semsible price for a pack due to the only wanting a couple of packs.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on August 09, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
Ordered mine from the states. Not cheap, but as they'll get a fair bit of use its not so bad.  :D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daniel36 on August 09, 2015, 09:00:15 PM
Ho boy... My best friend and I are planning a purchase around next month, for two starter gangs for both of us... I HOPE we can both scrounge some more money and back this Nickstarter as it comes out too.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: wolfen on August 09, 2015, 09:18:40 PM
I missed the first NS and got my current book on Amazon. I plan to back the expansion direct from Northstar.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: wulfgar22 on August 09, 2015, 10:02:10 PM

Hint: if the game does well, you should produce a deck of spell cards for your wizards.  I paid through the nose to have 'em custom printed via an online game printer studio!

I'd definitely get a couple of decks. As for the mini Nickstarter I'll be backing this one, too.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Kegluneq on August 09, 2015, 10:18:08 PM
I missed the first Nickstarter as well, only discovering the book because Amazon suggested I might like it.  Useful advertising, for a change.

I will probably go in on the upcoming Nickstarter, assuming I can sell at least one friend on the virtues of the game.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Sir_Theo on August 09, 2015, 10:39:05 PM
Can't get a printer in the UK to quote me a semsible price for a pack due to the only wanting a couple of packs.

Me and some friends clubbed in and got an order of 8 of audreys decks from printerstudio.de worked out under 15 quid per deck with shipping if that's any help? Impressively quick turn around and excellent customer service as well.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Harry on August 10, 2015, 06:38:33 AM
You shipped them over from the states? :o
The worlds gone mad. How is it possible to buy a pack of cards and ship them from the other side of the planet more cheaply than it is to buy them here.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on August 10, 2015, 10:11:55 AM
You shipped them over from the states? :o
The worlds gone mad. How is it possible to buy a pack of cards and ship them from the other side of the planet more cheaply than it is to buy them here.

With current exchange rates it worked out cheaper than getting them from Europe. I only ordered a deck for myself and a friend so it should be under the limit for HMRC to take their cut. Shipping was fairly reasonable, especially taking into account the madness that is Royal Mail's pricing structure. It's a bit extreme but...
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Annie on August 10, 2015, 01:09:17 PM
Will you be doing cards? I cast another vote for cards. They'd be brilliant.

Good luck, and love the post about Amazon, print screen and shared around the web :)

Annie
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Bodvoc on August 10, 2015, 03:03:40 PM
Another thumbs up for a pack of cards, maybe as part of the next Nickstarter? I would buy at least 2 packs.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Darkson71 on August 10, 2015, 03:05:19 PM
That date works well for me, will follow with interest.


And another vote for cards.  I've got cards for some other games (Dreadball, Shadows of Brimstone) made and shipped over from the US, and it wasn't as painful as I expected, but given Nick's post on giving money Northstar rather than Amazon, in the same vein I'd rather give money for cards to Northstar rather than Printershop.  ;)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Annie on August 11, 2015, 11:20:33 AM
but given Nick's post on giving money Northstar rather than Amazon, in the same vein I'd rather give money for cards to Northstar rather than Printershop.  ;)

Exactly!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: The Dozing Dragon on August 11, 2015, 11:43:20 AM
Count me in surprisingly enough  ;)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Calmdown on August 11, 2015, 01:26:40 PM
I was asked this question:
A few of us did the Nickstarter here, but then Amazon sells the book for $17. Why should I join this time & not just buy through Amazon!?

This was my answer:
Because the money that is made by North Star selling copies of Frostgrave is used to pay for Frostgrave figures. It's used to promote Frostgrave and develop the hobby of playing the game, modelling the figures and painting the figures. The money made by Amazon goes into shareholders pockets. If that doesn't matter to you, sure, save yourself a couple of bucks. But don't ask 'what happened to the hobby' when it dies because there is no money to pay the creative people who make the stuff we like.

Am I making too much of an issue about this? Don't get me wrong, I've used Amazon myself, but I just don't think it's the place to buy Hobby product. I mostly used Amazon for books and dvds, but that is because Amazon have already assassinated the high street bookshops and music shops, leaving one little choice but to buy online. I just don't want to see our hobby to go the same way.

Example. I'm attending Partizan, the show in Newark, at the beginning of September. I'll have a small stand selling Frostgrave, showing off the painted figures used in the photos and be there to chat to people. We'll have a participation game on another table where you can join in and learn the game. If all the sales for the rulebooks go through Amazon, hows this stuff going to carry on? Amazon won't fund it. An extreme scenario I admit, but look at Bookshops. We only have Waterstones left in Nottingham. If that goes, who'll host author signings etc in our town?

Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with this, and it is in the same vein as supporting your FLGS instead of ordering from the super-discount sites, if you dont want Amazon sales to kill your income and ruin the hobby then why is it available through Amazon at all? I'm not sure how the Osprey-Northstar-etc relationship works but if between you all you want to keep the hobby supported, why did you give it to Amazon to price gouge you in the first place?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: area23 on August 11, 2015, 02:12:40 PM
Excellent post,  I wholeheartedly agree. It's a very big shame indeed that many more rare books just aren't available anymore at all in normal bookshops, or only at request if you're lucky.
Editors apparently do not have any control if their books end up on amazon or bol.com
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on August 11, 2015, 02:47:10 PM
Hi Calmdown

A good point. I don't control the distribution of the books, so I can't answer. All I can do is ask people to give me a thought before placing their orders on-line.

But, I do control the distribution of the figures, and they will not be on sale through Amazon.

Nick


Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: darthgus on August 11, 2015, 04:36:29 PM
I really don't use Amazon except when I have no other choice... like I've been given Amazon vouchers. Otherwise I go through my normal suppliers.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Jiron on August 11, 2015, 04:52:17 PM
Agree on the Amazon thing!
However, back to topic! I have already said several times that if the new "cultist" models would look "half as badass as on the poster" I'm in for the miniatures this time!

Sooooo... will they? I don't know what makes the picture on the poster so cool! I think it has something to do with the mystery of their head bags and chains. I love these guys. I hope they would be possible to combine with regular wizards.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: beefcake on August 12, 2015, 04:34:23 AM
I'll be in on this one too. I want to get that Lich mini plus the cultists sound great.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Awesomeshotdude on August 12, 2015, 05:10:48 AM
I think if the next plastic sprue is all cultists, it will have less utility and be less popular to the gaming community as a whole, than the Frostgrave Soldiers plastic sprue does/is. The latter can not only be mixed and matched successfully with other plastic kits, it can also be used in a large range of settings...a heap of cultist would be less so.

I'd prefer to see another set of plastic Frostgrave soldiers expanding on the first set.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Malebolgia on August 12, 2015, 07:11:12 AM
I think if the next plastic sprue is all cultists, it will have less utility and be less popular to the gaming community as a whole, than the Frostgrave Soldiers plastic sprue does/is. The latter can not only be mixed and matched successfully with other plastic kits, it can also be used in a large range of settings...a heap of cultist would be less so.

I'd prefer to see another set of plastic Frostgrave soldiers expanding on the first set.

Cultists less so??
Ehm...Cthulhu? Pulp? Fallout? Sci-fi?
I think Cultists are way more useful for gaming than fantasy warriors. You can find these hoodies in a lot of settings and AFAIK there are no plastics available. So I think it's a brilliant idea to make plastics. As long as they can be carrying all kinds of weapons and their outfits aren't too fantastic.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: beefcake on August 12, 2015, 08:34:37 AM
Yes less popular than generic soldiers but I think still popular depending on how they are presented as cultists. If they are robed then the robe style could be used in many different genre. Just speculating though.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on August 13, 2015, 01:10:11 PM
A question for Nick really, but, with the expansion and slightly more evil overtones are we likely to see some alternate darker wizards and apprentices for any of the schools?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Smith on August 13, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
Oh, go on then...  ;)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Justizius on August 14, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
Really looking forward to the next nickstarter!

I think the cultist box is a great idea, as mentioned before, there are so many games they can be used.
There could be some really weired conversions if they are combined with other plastic kits from the ancient times
up to the WWII.  ;D

I also agree that printed spellcards would be very nice!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: FrozenRob on August 14, 2015, 12:43:01 PM
Sign me you for the Nickstarter
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Commander Roj on August 14, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
Another thumbs up for a pack of cards, maybe as part of the next Nickstarter? I would buy at least 2 packs.

I would always like a nice pack of cards.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: pancakeonions on August 14, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
I'm in like Flynn and looking forward to the box o cultists I'll be getting!

I'd also put in another call for offering the spells up as a deck of cards: I'd be delighted to give you more of my money, and that just seems like a much easier way to manage them all than ticking a box on the wizard warband sheet. 

Thanks!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: flytime on August 15, 2015, 03:35:50 PM
Will it be hard or Softcover ?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Argonor on August 17, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
I'm watching this, more out of polite curiosity than anything else...
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: joe5mc on August 17, 2015, 01:04:26 PM
It will be a soft cover book.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: flytime on September 02, 2015, 08:54:46 PM
Is there a confirmed start Date for the nickstarter already?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Hupp n at em on September 03, 2015, 05:31:24 AM
Is there a confirmed start Date for the nickstarter already?

I second this inquiry... gotta know when to set a bit of paycheck to the side  ;)  lol
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Paboook on September 04, 2015, 01:43:23 PM
Yes less popular than generic soldiers but I think still popular depending on how they are presented as cultists. If they are robed then the robe style could be used in many different genre. Just speculating though.

I expect the opposite :) For example, I plan to use them also for Kings of War Abyssal army and I have noticed high interest about the cultists from Mordheim and 40K players in my area. People have tons of generic soldiers, this will be something long-disered. Really looking forward to having this set!

Also +1 on the spell cards print. Including errata/players feedback on them would be nice.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Argonor on September 04, 2015, 10:42:02 PM
Also +1 on the spell cards print. Including errata/players feedback on them would be nice.

Osprey has purchased Audrey's spell Cards and they'll apparently be releasing a printed deck at some point.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: ghstgry on September 07, 2015, 02:50:40 PM
I'm definitely interested in the Nickstarter as well!  Please let us know when it starts. 
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on September 09, 2015, 08:44:56 AM
All going well, we'll get the 'Thaw of the Lich Lord' Nickstarter pre-order campaign going 25th September to 1st November.

Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: beefcake on September 09, 2015, 09:00:05 AM
Any plans for sneak peaks before the nickstarter? Unless I ve missed them already. (Seen the cultist box)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on September 09, 2015, 09:05:12 AM
All going well, we'll get the 'Thaw of the Lich Lord' Nickstarter pre-order campaign going 25th September to 1st November.

Woo!  :D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: h0unskull on September 09, 2015, 09:58:14 AM
@Nick: are there still plans for the gaming stores to participate?
I wanted to get the local store to join since he said he might like too...
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Morray on September 09, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Well this is exciting, count me in. I snaffle up spell cards as well. A great example of a deck done well are the Malifaux schemes & strategies deck, something like £7 and made of amazing hard wearing material. Big fan.

on a note about buying direct from you, is it ok to buy from thr FLGS as well or is that same as Amazon? And if we buy from Amazon does none of the money go to your company (Frostgrave) At all?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Fencing Frog on September 09, 2015, 01:50:33 PM

Note the Nickstarter will be available from your FLGS as well as directly from North Star. Chat to them about it next time you are in.

Nick


Who should I have my FLGS get in tough with? I know at least one owner who would want to get involved...
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Coenus Scaldingus on September 09, 2015, 10:28:54 PM
For those not on the Facebook group:

(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11150796_890911567667313_7356226278942338020_n.jpg?oh=9bad1603f04ec0f74865961e664edbfc&oe=56A6F3B0)

(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11998921_891106810981122_7503035261805756843_n.jpg?oh=32793ab1d3a99971b9c5016e048231e9&oe=5665EB9C)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daniel36 on September 10, 2015, 09:43:02 AM
I'll have to be honest here... I have to get used to the heads a little bit. The bodies are wonderful, I think so far the Frostgrave models have really captured the low-tech mediëval look and these are no exception, but I am not feeling the heads just yet.

I'm still very likely to get at least one set, probably two. While on a hiatus, I have not abandoned Mordheim completely, so Possessed are a go again. And I have every intention of getting as many of the official models for Frostgrave as possible, so these are going to be in no matter what. So at worst, I might have to do some head swapping.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Morray on September 10, 2015, 09:59:47 AM
Hang on a second, I'm part of the frostgrave FB group but I haven't seen this pictures? Which group are we talking here? ;)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on September 10, 2015, 11:52:12 AM
North Star?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Darkson71 on September 10, 2015, 03:07:48 PM
The second pic (3 heads) was posted here mid-August in the Cultist thread.
The first pic was shown as a close-up of the head at the same time, but not the full pic.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Coenus Scaldingus on September 10, 2015, 04:51:06 PM
Hang on a second, I'm part of the frostgrave FB group but I haven't seen this pictures? Which group are we talking here? ;)
FrostGrave: Fantasy Wargames in the Frozen City; posted by Nick Eyre on the 8th of September (second pic 9th, in the comments below).  :)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: wulfgar22 on September 10, 2015, 05:22:34 PM
Osprey has purchased Audrey's spell Cards and they'll apparently be releasing a printed deck at some point.

Brilliant!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Dakka Dez on September 10, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
Thanks for reposting this, I don't do Facebook :)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on September 10, 2015, 07:42:30 PM
First pictures of the new Wizard, the Lich Wizard, from Thaw of the Lich Lord.

We are planning to start the Nickstarter pre-order program for 'Thaw of the Lich Lord' 25th September, and probably end it 3rd November, in anticipation of the general release date of the 20th of November.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11261247_890912747667195_2318711910638875356_n.jpg?oh=911ebbcede8d35338c492861f3fe49e8&oe=566586F9)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Helznicht on September 10, 2015, 08:55:34 PM
High Magic?
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on September 10, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
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Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daniel36 on September 11, 2015, 07:33:11 AM
Those are really cool! I especially like the apprentice for this one. Well, I am saving up for another warband, so now I just have one additional choice for which wizard I am getting.

Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: joe5mc on September 11, 2015, 08:09:50 AM
Just to clarify - the Lich does not represent a new school of magic. It is an 'option' for wizards from any school of magic...although some might be more inclined than others...
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daniel36 on September 11, 2015, 08:24:52 AM
That I like! So now we can make a Necro Lich, or a Chrono Lich, or a Witch Lich? That last one sounds awesome! :D Elementalich? Sigilich?

Okay, I will stop now.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Cymril on September 11, 2015, 05:58:47 PM
My dreams come true: this miniatures look great! I'm in and hope their will be some "melnibonean" mercenaries as well :D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Dewbakuk on September 12, 2015, 09:46:00 PM
My dreams come true: this miniatures look great! I'm in and hope their will be some "melnibonean" mercenaries as well :D

Mantic's Elves. Bloody awful Elves but absolutely and on for Melniboreans.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Coenus Scaldingus on September 15, 2015, 09:39:24 AM
From Brueckenkopf Online:

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/NSM_Frostgrave_Cultists_Painted.jpg)
Death cultists are mortal men and women who have sworn their service to an undead master, usually in the hope of achieving some form of immortality. They normally come from the lowest rung of society and have few useful skills and little combat training. What they lack in ability, however, they make up for in fanaticism and fearlessness in the face of death. When sent out by their masters, death cultists generally conceal their identities behind masks and hoods, but proclaim their allegiances by adorning themselves with bones, chains and other symbols of death.

The Frostgrave Cultists box set contains enough parts to make 20 different figures. There are multiple heads, arms, weapons and accoutrements per frame, no two warbands will ever be the same.

Cultists feature in Thaw of the Lich Lord as opponents in the scenarios and as random encounters. They should also be used as the soldiers for Warbands of evil wizards, especially ones who’ve embraced Lichdom.

The Cultists have been designed to compliment the Frostgrave Soldiers plastic box set. By that we mean the arms, heads and equipment are interchangeable, giving you even MORE choice to built a unique and personal Warband.

And as an extra bonus, the Cultist plastic frame includes heads and arms to convert your Soldiers or Cultists into skeletons and Zombies. True Frostgrave Undead! Perfect to represent your ‘risen from the dead’ ex-soldiers.

The plastic figures are 28mm sized, supplied unpainted and require assembly with glue. We recommend you use glue designed for plastic to get the best results.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: joe5mc on September 15, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
And a couple more unpainted shots:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/657/21247585619_87d135886b_z.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5743/21423604692_4e65d7515e_z.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5718/21247585709_8686bfc60e_z.jpg)

Plus, there are a few extra undead bits that haven't been shown off yet!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Pappa Midnight on September 15, 2015, 11:09:04 AM
Now they look interesting...........
I can see loads of uses for them for Frostgrave and beyond. Excellent stuff.

PM
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on September 15, 2015, 12:15:35 PM
Excellent.  :D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: tyrionhalfman on September 15, 2015, 11:11:05 PM
Nice updates.thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: mweaver on September 16, 2015, 04:06:39 AM
Most excellent!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: agent_pumpkin on September 16, 2015, 09:14:54 AM

Nice!

 ;D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 16, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
I'm looking forward to these.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Legionnaire Bert on September 17, 2015, 12:49:35 PM
I think if the next plastic sprue is all cultists, it will have less utility and be less popular to the gaming community as a whole, than the Frostgrave Soldiers plastic sprue does/is. The latter can not only be mixed and matched successfully with other plastic kits, it can also be used in a large range of settings...a heap of cultist would be less so.

I'd prefer to see another set of plastic Frostgrave soldiers expanding on the first set.

I think its easy to underestimate the usefulness of plastic cultist models! Useable across so many systems, and people have been crying out for decent cultist models for years. I will be staggered if these don't do extremely well.

Actually now having seen more pictures I absolutely cannot wait for these to become available. Also screams Necromunda with some conversion work - being plastic that should be pretty viable. Simply cannot wait.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Annie on September 17, 2015, 07:40:11 PM
From Brueckenkopf Online:

Death cultists are mortal men and women who have sworn their service to an undead master, usually in the hope of achieving some form of immortality. They normally come from the lowest rung of society and have few useful skills and little combat training. What they lack in ability, however, they make up for in fanaticism and fearlessness in the face of death. When sent out by their masters, death cultists generally conceal their identities behind masks and hoods, but proclaim their allegiances by adorning themselves with bones, chains and other symbols of death.




It's the little things that make my day  :)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: mister c on September 18, 2015, 10:15:44 AM
Hopefully these will look as good with female heads on as the first set did.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Annie on September 18, 2015, 10:30:19 AM
Hopefully these will look as good with female heads on as the first set did.

For sure, I'll definitely be on it as soon as I can get some  :D Might give them loony hairdos.

Some of the faces with hoods, such as the far left in the painted picture could be female as they are anyway  :)

Lovely kit, really excited.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: tancrede on September 18, 2015, 04:50:17 PM
Those cultists are simply excellents !
I really love them, and I see plenty use...

Bad news for my wallet !   :D
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daniel36 on September 18, 2015, 05:01:27 PM
Necromunda... Hadn't even thought about that one.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Dewbakuk on September 18, 2015, 09:03:07 PM
Necromunda... Hadn't even thought about that one.

That was my first thought. May have already started prodding  ;)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daniel36 on September 21, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
I was looking at Tabletop Gaming News, and noticed that, aside from the first Nickstarter, there isn't much news on there for Frostgrave.

Figured I'd give a shout out, TTGN gets quite a bit of traffic, and sending them a quick message that something is out (be they models, books, Nickstarters or anything else) doesn't take very long but might tip some more folks over the edge.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Zinkala on September 22, 2015, 02:12:29 AM
So I saw the new Nickstarter page. Like what I see so far but need to see the new metal undead models before I decide what level to buy in at.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Nooblord on September 22, 2015, 02:23:59 AM
Yep, doesn't appear to be live yet. Clicking the order button goes to 'page not found'.

The spend goals look good and attainable and the deck of cards is great news.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: beefcake on September 22, 2015, 04:15:28 AM
Yeah, just had a look. I guess Nick is still finishing it as there seems to be some place holder images and so on (Ghoul King, Wraiths etc) although the pre-order special says it expires the 25th of September which is not far from now.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Dewbakuk on September 22, 2015, 07:08:58 PM
Yeah, just had a look. I guess Nick is still finishing it as there seems to be some place holder images and so on (Ghoul King, Wraiths etc) although the pre-order special says it expires the 25th of September which is not far from now.

Not looked at the page yet but I do know the Ghoul King and Wraiths aren't finished sculpting yet so I doubt there will be any pics imminently.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on September 22, 2015, 08:18:07 PM
GUYS, stop looking at that page, it's not real. For some reason Kev chose to work on the page online in the public eye  lol

Forget about what you've read there, the real page will be up on Friday.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Belgian on September 22, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
GUYS, stop looking at that page, it's not real. For some reason Kev chose to work on the page online in the public eye  lol

Forget about what you've read there, the real page will be up on Friday.

 lol
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: tyrionhalfman on September 22, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
Oh now you're just teasing us :)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: frogimus on September 22, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
GUYS, stop looking at that page, it's not real. For some reason Kev chose to work on the page online in the public eye  lol

Forget about what you've read there, the real page will be up on Friday.
/me pouts
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on September 22, 2015, 09:25:21 PM
GUYS, stop looking at that page, it's not real. For some reason Kev chose to work on the page online in the public eye  lol

Forget about what you've read there, the real page will be up on Friday.

I saw nuthing..  ;)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daniel36 on September 24, 2015, 08:00:13 AM
It's a conspiracy I tell you! The thaw is a lie!!!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Magos Kasen on September 25, 2015, 11:26:45 AM
It's live everyone. Looks good too. Definitely going in at level three. Maybe four.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 25, 2015, 11:40:59 AM
This looks great. Is it possible to get level 3 + bard/mule, without going all the way to level 4?

Did I see something about ordering through a gaming shop? The one I go to stocks the Frostgrave range.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: armyofmites on September 25, 2015, 11:57:38 AM
I think you can get any level you want, then add any Thaw of the Lich Lord products (see extra products section). I didn't pledge on the previous Frostgrave Nickstarter, so maybe someone could confirm?
I'm not decided yet between level 3 and 4. Too bad you have to go to level 5 to get the Lich King mini, but maybe it will be added to the extra products before nov 5th.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: JohnDSD2 on September 25, 2015, 11:58:17 AM
Rufus,

If its like the last nickstarter, once you have committed/pledged to one of the starter levels you can then access the other figures and add to your order.
In fact it says exactly that down the page, now I look more closely.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Awesomeshotdude on September 25, 2015, 12:00:12 PM
I've jumped in at Level 4...then a day or two before the end I'll revise my order to add anything else that comes along or is currently on the extra's list.

@Rufus - Yes you can. Once you place an order, you get an email with a code that gives you access to further Nickstarter items...and what you want is in there for 6GBP.

I've just checked and they also have White Gorillas in there...

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/2/img7752.jpg)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: fairoaks024 on September 25, 2015, 12:12:33 PM
Backed at lol 4 and waiting for the link to add all the extras.

I've been in on loads of nick starters and they are always great,

Looking forward to this

Regards

Jim
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Daeothar on September 25, 2015, 12:36:16 PM
I've just checked and they also have White Gorillas in there...

Which is nice.

Because those guys were one of the few monsters still missing from my encounter bestiary! :)

Gonna be an expensive month, with the Infinity RPG Kickstarter, the wrapping up of the Myth Pledge Manager and of course this nickstarter... ::)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 25, 2015, 12:36:35 PM
Thanks for the answers re adding extra things! I missed the previous nickstarter so wasn't sure how it worked.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: agent_pumpkin on September 25, 2015, 01:04:29 PM
Resistance is futile!  :o
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: armyofmites on September 25, 2015, 01:42:16 PM
White Gorilla looks great! I'd be curious to know what's available as extra new stuff for pre-order...
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: area23 on September 25, 2015, 01:50:07 PM
So who sculpted what?!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Kegluneq on September 25, 2015, 01:59:29 PM
Pledged at Level 5 since I missed the first Nickstarter.  Should have enough miniatures to run an entire league when it is over.  Which I just might, if I can get a few more people interested.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: tyrionhalfman on September 25, 2015, 02:14:48 PM
Link to the campaign page showing spend goals, etc.

http://nstarmagazine.com/FROSTGRAVE_LICH_LORD.htm
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: mdauben on September 25, 2015, 03:20:32 PM
Just call me the Lich Wizard (Level 4 pledge).   ;)

This reminds me of how little I have painted up from the original releases, though!  I need to get cracking...   :o
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Cymril on September 25, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
Still time until November mdauben :)! I will also join the Nickstarter today, it all looks great!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Zinkala on September 25, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
This reminds me of how little I have painted up from the original releases, though!  I need to get cracking...   :o

I've painted quite a few models for Frostgrave but only a couple were the official ones. I'm starting on my second warband as well as helping out my youngest son with his. Gotta take some pics one of these days.

Time to decide how much I can afford to grab now. At least the apprentice level but I'm liking some other things too.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on September 25, 2015, 07:29:23 PM
The majority of this new release has been sculpted by Giorgio Bassani. Mike Owen did the Snow Troll and Frost Giant. Bob Naismith did the plastic Cultists and the White Gorilla. There's more to come from all three, plus we've yet to even list what Mark Copplestone and Mark Sims are adding. Nick Collier hasn't joined us this time, I don't want him to slow down on the 1864 Danes.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: tyrionhalfman on September 25, 2015, 08:08:46 PM
I'm in level 3 - can't wait to kit bash the cultists with parts left over from my soldiers box, as well as making some undead with the zombie and skeleton parts in the cultists box.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: area23 on September 26, 2015, 02:06:44 PM
The majority of this new release has been sculpted by Giorgio Bassani. Mike Owen did the Snow Troll and Frost Giant. Bob Naismith did the plastic Cultists and the White Gorilla. There's more to come from all three, plus we've yet to even list what Mark Copplestone and Mark Sims are adding. Nick Collier hasn't joined us this time, I don't want him to slow down on the 1864 Danes.
Excellent! Bassani's style fits in great with the others
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: crancko on September 26, 2015, 02:57:06 PM
hi

how much would you save getting Level 5? I did not enter in first nickstarter but now..... :o
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on September 26, 2015, 07:49:20 PM
You don't save a giant amount. The £6 figure packs come in at £5 each, and you get free stuff like the Gnoll Chief, The Lich Lord, 9 treasure tokens, a Knight and 2 special treasure tokens.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: nicknorthstar on October 17, 2015, 11:20:23 AM
Nickstarter participants. Visit the secret pages now for a new exclusive offer.
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 17, 2015, 11:42:49 AM
Nickstarter participants. Visit the secret pages now for a new exclusive offer.

I wish I could see what that was, but I signed up in-store at Wargames Emporium!
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Ray Earle on October 17, 2015, 01:25:40 PM
Nickstarter participants. Visit the secret pages now for a new exclusive offer.

Oo, now that is nice.  :D   :D  :D

I wish I could see what that was, but I signed up in-store at Wargames Emporium!

Ah, you wouldn't be interested anyway...  ;)
Title: Re: Thaw of the Lich Lord
Post by: Paboook on October 18, 2015, 11:22:05 AM
I have ordered two 3rd levels for me and a friend of mine and Bard & Pack Mule and Crow Master & Javelineer sets in addition (there is some issue with international orders with my credit card but I hope this gets solved soon).

I have all metal soldiers from the first Frostgrave Nickstarter as they are absolutely lovely miniatures. I would like to have every official model, but need to economize. I already own have huge collection of various creatures and monsters so the urge for new undead models is not overwhelming.

Besides the new supplement, the most exciting part of this Nickstarter is the second plastic box as converting and kitbashing is my greatest joy in wargaming. The cultist will serve also in my new Abyssal army for Kings of War. They look phantastic!