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Title: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on August 24, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
Question;

Is the term/name Oldhammer (also spelt Oldehammer) a registered trademark?

Also can you use Olde Skool without upsetting fantasy gamers?

Thank you.

Tony
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: timlillig on August 24, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Not in the US or UK according to http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database) and https://www.gov.uk/search-for-trademark (https://www.gov.uk/search-for-trademark).
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on August 24, 2015, 06:31:00 PM
Not in the US or UK according to http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database (http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database) and https://www.gov.uk/search-for-trademark (https://www.gov.uk/search-for-trademark).

Thanks for that.

Any other thoughts?

Tony
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 24, 2015, 07:07:31 PM
Also can you use Olde Skool without upsetting fantasy gamers?

Can you do anything without upsetting a certain percentage of fantasy gamers?  ;)

I'd say, do what you like.
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: Steve F on August 24, 2015, 07:08:11 PM
Are you sure about "Olde Skool"?  My dictionary has Old English spellings of "Scol" or "Scole".  I don't have a middle English spelling, I'm afraid, but a "k" just looks wrong if you are going for a medieval version of what I suppose we should call the "hippity-hop" phrase.

Quite orky, though.
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: robh on August 24, 2015, 07:14:24 PM
No-one has defined just what "Oldhammer" is as far as I am aware. Does it have cut off dates? or relate to specific versions of specific games. Is Space Hulk "Oldhammer"?
Need to be clear what is being discussed when you use the word.

As for deliberate misspelling words, that really "upsets" me, but as an English speaker and all round grumpy sod, not as a fantasy gamer. I despise seeing people who are capable of better language using words like skool, dorfs, purdey, etc almost as much as the hateful l33t craze.
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: Vanvlak on August 24, 2015, 07:19:40 PM
They killed Warhammer, didn't they?  >:(
So no offence need be taken by anyone.
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: fastolfrus on August 24, 2015, 08:02:59 PM
Isn't Oldhammer the next new venture from Warlord?
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on August 24, 2015, 08:08:03 PM
Thanks for the comments.

As far as misspelling words, I would agree with you, but I want to be sure that if I start using these terms, I am not infringing any trade marks.

To me Oldhammer means fantastic memories of playing fantasy wargames with beautifully painted models and scratch-built terrain, Oh and loads of dice, wooden rulers, pieces of handwritten paper with scratchy stats and bottles of cold beer. Games that always over ran and FUN, FUN, FUN.

Tony
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: Steve F on August 24, 2015, 08:26:20 PM
I look forward to gamers in 30 years' time playing "Age of Oldmar".
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: Silent Invader on August 24, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
Take care re 'registered trademark' and 'trademark'

Something can still be claimed as a trade mark even if unregistered. See

https://www.gov.uk/intellectual-property-crime-and-infringement#trade-mark-infringement (https://www.gov.uk/intellectual-property-crime-and-infringement#trade-mark-infringement)

Something claimed as an unregistered trademark can be followed by a T in a circle, whereas a registered trademark will be the R in a circle.

With the unregistered trade mark, and trading names etc in general, you can still fall foul of the common law offence of 'passing off'.

Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: Keith on August 24, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
They killed Warhammer, didn't they?  >:(
So no offence need be taken by anyone.

Well, Forbidden Power is still full of the stuff and stock will probably last for the next 20 years, so you can always pretend Age of Sigmar never happened. :-)

Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on August 24, 2015, 10:03:48 PM
Once again, thanks for all the comments.

Tony
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: FramFramson on August 24, 2015, 11:58:59 PM
This reminded me of something I learned the other day.

The dog breed known as the old english bulldog is now extinct. Attempts were made to recreate it in the 70s, but as the original lines are gone, to distinguish this new breed from the original old english bulldog, the new breed was named "Olde English Bulldogge".

 ;D
Title: Re: Oldhammer - "is Oldhammer a registered trademark?"
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 25, 2015, 01:24:03 AM
Here in the US we have devolved to having chicken wings and chicken wyngz, the latter not actually being a wing.

As far as I can tell, corporate marketing and HR departments in our country are full of people with braynz.