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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Dalauppror on October 16, 2015, 10:40:56 AM

Title: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151202 Alexander Nevsky WIP pic.
Post by: Dalauppror on October 16, 2015, 10:40:56 AM
Hi

I´m very glad for the news that Fire Forge games (http://fireforge-games.com/) will release a complete new range of figures, Medieval Russians :)

What I´m most exited about are that there seems to be a box of Plastic Russians Infantry in the plans, as well as extra minis in Resine. You can read a bit more and find a 3-up picture of one of the new plastic minis at my blog. (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/2015/10/plastic-medieval-russians-from.html)

I hope you all will have a really nice weekend !

Best regards Michael

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Cky2uuzpcWQ/ViCHREbULsI/AAAAAAAAG6U/5P5lNOTw1D4/s400/dalauppor%2Bpreview.jpg)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Captain Blood on October 16, 2015, 10:54:50 AM
Interesting indeed, thanks Michael.

You can never have too many plastic medieval parts to make nice figures from :)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: pocoloco on October 16, 2015, 11:06:05 AM
Excellent news indeed  ;D

Medieval battles in Eastern Finland, here we come! :)

Many thanks for the info Michael.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: 3 fingers on October 16, 2015, 11:38:29 AM
Interesting indeed, thanks Michael.

You can never have too many plastic medieval parts to make nice figures from :)
Soon as I saw these I thought evil fantasy Knights  lol
Going to get some. ;)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: commissarmoody on October 16, 2015, 11:41:49 AM
About damn time!  lol
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Captain Blood on October 16, 2015, 12:14:59 PM
Soon as I saw these I thought evil fantasy Knights  lol

Lannisters!
 :D
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Pappa Midnight on October 16, 2015, 12:19:57 PM
I've got to say I've got mixed feelings about this..........
It's brilliant that they are producing Russians BUT they could have done so before I built a Russian army using metals!!!!  lol

Really looking forward to seeing these (the 3-up looks very promising). The skirmish rules sound very interesting and hopefully will be of the same production quality as the Deus Vult rules.

On a side note, their Crusader and Arab metal archers are very nice indeed!

Thanks for posting.
Regards
PM
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 16, 2015, 12:33:36 PM
I see these being very useful  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: 3 fingers on October 16, 2015, 12:53:05 PM
Lannisters!
 :D
  :o  :)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Argonor on October 16, 2015, 01:07:27 PM
Logical way to go, as they are obvious opponents for both the Teutonic Knights and the Mongols.

I think I need to either complete my Chivalry rules (and study warfare in the east) or find a good skirmish ruleset with stats usable for the Russians...
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Oleg on October 16, 2015, 02:00:49 PM
Good news! Can they manage to do properly Russian... ???
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: commissarmoody on October 16, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
Good news! Can they manage to do properly Russian... ???
We can only hope.  :D
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Paboook on October 16, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
I am even more excited about the FF plan to make plastic Byzantines!
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: commissarmoody on October 16, 2015, 05:02:05 PM
I am even more excited about the FF plan to make plastic Byzantines!

That too.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Atheling on October 16, 2015, 06:29:34 PM
Well, it will be very interesting to see what they produce  8)

Darrell.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Timbor on October 17, 2015, 12:49:44 PM
That is great news!  I have always liked the look of medieval Russia, but I have not been as keen on the current metal figures available...
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Neldoreth on October 18, 2015, 03:17:01 AM
That is awesome. The Mongol invasion of Russia is one of my favourite periods to game!

Thanks for posting!
n.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: Dalauppror on October 18, 2015, 10:41:57 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7UdSL2LNhmw/ViNn03dO64I/AAAAAAAAG60/BmJKHmWdfVs/s400/forgestarter.jpg)

It seems like the The FireFirge Medieval Russians pre-order are up and running, You find it here (http://fireforge-games.com/forgestarter/)

In the plastic box you will get 5 sprues, each consisting of:

5 different bodies
11 different heads
1 Faceplate
5 Shields (3 different types)
5 arms for shields (3 different types)
1 arm with sword
1 arm with mace
2 different set of two-handed weapons
2 different set for bow
2 quivers for arrows
1 bow case with bow
4 spears

Pictures of some 3-ups from the upcomming plastic box.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sxAWxFVvZhE/ViNoIf3wuKI/AAAAAAAAG7I/ZH3uIOKQPLU/s400/russian_infantry_1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qa0Ol-jau58/ViNsbQqO5SI/AAAAAAAAG7o/cR_Q9fW2ZYE/s400/russian_infantry_3.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YHESihuXUOs/ViNsbG6PaiI/AAAAAAAAG7k/BqcYMqFTMRg/s400/russian_infantry_4.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xUfJRQSeMCU/ViNsbmdo-aI/AAAAAAAAG7s/-a-lK8FqbsU/s400/russian_infantry_5.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6fn9q8CAyys/ViNsb8YOjiI/AAAAAAAAG8E/6e4iJhgVajM/s400/russian_infantry_6.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cqrfYon8V6Q/ViNsb3PGUxI/AAAAAAAAG70/uo7Rmdb3iuA/s400/russian_infantry_7.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GTeIJuMR6Vg/ViNscCcz27I/AAAAAAAAG74/10A1BGlofS0/s400/russian_infantry_8.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dp8MhRFVTWA/ViNsc3w_5tI/AAAAAAAAG8A/1zDPr2nvzgI/s400/russian_infantry_9.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-InkEPmhf44c/ViNsbGMQNAI/AAAAAAAAG7g/fvAXPFlHIo8/s400/russian_infantry_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: OSHIROmodels on October 18, 2015, 10:43:36 AM
I spy a Lannister sheild  ;D

cheers

James
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Nord on October 18, 2015, 11:57:16 AM
Why are the hands not gripping the spears, like the other weapons?
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: tyrionhalfman on October 18, 2015, 12:37:31 PM
Those look great.i can see lots of uses for them in both historical and fantasy settings. I don't need them but then again that's not stopped me before
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Captain Blood on October 18, 2015, 09:42:13 PM
I spy a Lannister sheild  ;D

cheers

James

lol I thought exactly the same thing...

Doesn't sound like a luxurious array of arms/weapon choices? Only one arm holding a sword?

Some of the helmets look rather good though. Feel sure I'll get a box...

Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Paint Pig on October 18, 2015, 10:52:25 PM
...... I don't need them but then again that's not stopped me before
Spoken like a true war gamer  :D
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Vermis on October 18, 2015, 11:08:59 PM
Why are the hands not gripping the spears, like the other weapons?

Can we have a forgegoal of hands moulded to the weapons, rather than ye olde lego mittens?

Sculpting looks okay (good thing there's less of the crab scuttle poses), but there's some weird lighting or contrast or something in these B&W pics that's making some of the detail hard to focus on, IMO.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Hupp n at em on October 19, 2015, 01:57:50 AM
Sculpting looks okay (good thing there's less of the crab scuttle poses

Great to see, as that is the one thing I've disliked about Fireforge figures so far (well, the GW-sized weapons are a bit too much sometimes too).  lol
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Elbows on October 19, 2015, 02:05:27 AM
Wonderful...could definitely use some of these to my fantasy kitbashes...looking forward to the Byzantines as well. 
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Timbor on October 19, 2015, 10:56:39 PM
Why are the hands not gripping the spears, like the other weapons?

My guess is that they have to make the spearshaft a certain thickness for durability sake, and to have the hands grip it entirely would require massive ham-hands?

Nice to see the preorder up and running... but the page seems a bit unpolished to me.  Also, the 2.5 month time for the preorder to finish leaves me little incentive to pay now... I might as well check back in December and sign up then.  I am looking forward to the figures, though!
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Hupp n at em on October 20, 2015, 01:31:44 AM
...looking forward to the Byzantines as well. 

 :o Huh? Did I miss this news?
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Elbows on October 20, 2015, 03:12:26 AM
Someone on the previous page stated they were doing plastic Byzantines...or was that another manufacturer?
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Whitwort Stormbringer on October 20, 2015, 05:23:22 AM
Huh, these certainly look like a fun set to build, although I'm not sure I'd find a use for that many armored Russians since the only Dark Ages/Medieval game I play is SAGA.

Pagan Rus, Jomsviking, maybe regular old Viking (?), Hearthguard on foot.  Can't think of much else.  Maybe Welsh or Scots HG, with leg and head transplants...
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: tyrionhalfman on October 20, 2015, 07:23:09 AM
You could always buy a box and just keep a couple of sprues for yourself and sell the rest either on here or eBay, as I've seen others do before, or wait for others to do that and buy a couple of their sprues? Or buy them and hope they come in useful down the line? I'm already thinking of different uses for when I get mine, in the fantasy era, evil knights in black like Bavmordas forces in Willow
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Elbows on October 21, 2015, 01:25:10 AM
I fully intend to kitbash mine into fantasy figures, since I don't game historicals.  I love anything unique and a bit different. 
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Whitwort Stormbringer on October 21, 2015, 03:12:17 AM
evil knights in black like Bavmordas forces in Willow
Great, now I'm thinking about how to build Erik and his men!  Greek helmets, capes, Viking bodies?

Yeah, I'll likely grab a box once they're out for retail - plastic sets are affordable enough that even if I only have a planned use for a handful, the rest will almost certainly get used up one way or another.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Hupp n at em on October 21, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
Great, now I'm thinking about how to build Erik and his men!  Greek helmets, capes, Viking bodies?

Yeah, I'll likely grab a box once they're out for retail - plastic sets are affordable enough that even if I only have a planned use for a handful, the rest will almost certainly get used up one way or another.

I have every intention of doing this myself too! That movie's costume design really captured my imagination as a sprout.  :)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: tyrionhalfman on October 21, 2015, 07:40:29 AM
Great, now I'm thinking about how to build Erik and his men!  Greek helmets, capes, Viking bodies?

Yeah, I'll likely grab a box once they're out for retail - plastic sets are affordable enough that even if I only have a planned use for a handful, the rest will almost certainly get used up one way or another.

Why not just use the bodies from this box, using Greek style helmets and a different paint job for Eric's force?
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: tomrommel1 on October 21, 2015, 09:18:10 AM
Seems some of the heads could be used for GoT Sun/spear southerners .
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Vermis on October 22, 2015, 12:03:30 AM
Can't really disagree, Humakt. :) I think they'll be good 'nuff for most applications, but it would've been nice to have some extra polish in some areas.

I wonder if people would buy add-on bits of weapons with moulded-on hands, or at least closed fists for drilling out and sticking wire spears through...? :?
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: 3 fingers on October 22, 2015, 10:02:35 AM
They have put artwork picture up on facebook page,I've asked if we can have cleare pics of the miniatures. :)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Lord Ekard on October 23, 2015, 05:55:44 PM
They have put artwork picture up on facebook page,I've asked if we can have cleare pics of the miniatures. :)

Working on. We will put new pictures next week. Meanwhile we are sculpting Alexander Nevsky and Infantry Command :)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Nord on October 23, 2015, 09:58:11 PM
It's perfectly possible to cast gripping hands and spears together - GB include them in the plastic Saxon boxset, and Perry medievals grip the hafts of their weapons well enough, to name but two.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games 151018 picture of 3-ups
Post by: Dalauppror on October 26, 2015, 06:17:21 AM
Not really a Medieval Novgorodian but i got a picture of a upcomming FireForge Mongol general - Tsubodai 1175–1248.

Best regards Michael (http://dalauppror.blogspot.se/)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GpvpGDnPfqk/Vi1KGe8CL4I/AAAAAAAAHAo/erk6C9ARQrM/s400/Tsubodai.jpg)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Engel on October 29, 2015, 07:05:57 AM
Is it just me or any one else see this?:

If you just swap the heads these looks like warhammer High Elves ?  ;D


(http://fireforge-games.com/forgestarter/images/items/infantry_command.jpg)

(http://fireforge-games.com/forgestarter/images/items/nevsky.jpg)


Really nice sketches, hope the comming miniatures lives up to them.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: tyrionhalfman on October 29, 2015, 07:49:32 AM
Yeah I think you've found GW's historical inspiration for their high elf armour style
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Vermis on October 29, 2015, 09:55:15 AM
Is it just me or any one else see this?:

If you just swap the heads these looks like warhammer High Elves ?  ;D

It's uncanny! I always thought the elves were meant to be like some kind of hittites or assyrians or something, but shows what I know. ;D
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: 3 fingers on October 29, 2015, 01:27:02 PM
Yes,well spotted,but they will be cheaper ,and now a gw hit squad will be after you, lol
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Vermis on October 29, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
Y'know, I'm looking at one half-converted high elf spearman right now - with legs resculpted into sane proportions and hands to follow - and all the other spearmen to do for Dragon Rampant, and I'm wondering if it'd be easier to take Engel's suggestion, pop the heads off, and stick them on these guys.

Might still have to resculpt the hands, though.  >:D ;)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Matakakea on October 29, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
I might have to buy some of these for Lion Rampant. I'm also having thoughts about minor conversions for Dragon Rampant too.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Argonor on October 29, 2015, 11:32:22 PM
You just reminded me of the High Elves I started about 5 years ago while we were moving to our current home. Combined with Dragon Rampant coming out soon, hmmm...
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge Games
Post by: LordOdo on November 01, 2015, 03:43:58 PM
Lannisters!
 :D

I think I'll use them actually for Targaryens; the scaly armour reminds me of dragons :)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Charlie_ on November 01, 2015, 04:47:46 PM
What century are these supposed to be from? Can't say I know a thing about medieval Russian armour!
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Longshanks on November 01, 2015, 06:40:44 PM
I can't say that I know much about Russian armor either, but considering they are marking a Nevsky figure and they have Teutonic and Mongol ranges for the 13th century, I'm going to guess they are based on the same period
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Dalauppror on November 01, 2015, 09:35:05 PM
Hi

Battle of Neva was 1240 against Swedish Crusaders and Battle of Lake Peipus was 1242 against Teutons with friends.

The minis woul work at least a couple of hundred years erlier (mix with Gripping beast Vikings to get stunning Rus) to and well in to the 15th century, at least for me.

Best regards Michael
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: pocoloco on November 02, 2015, 09:11:37 AM
Hi

Battle of Neva was 1240 against Swedish Crusaders and Battle of Lake Peipus was 1242 against Teutons with friends.

The minis woul work at least a couple of hundred years erlier (mix with Gripping beast Vikings to get stunning Rus) to and well in to the 15th century, at least for me.

Best regards Michael

The Battle of Neva might have actually never taken place:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Neva

Or it was just a small (border) [there really wasn't an established border at those times] skirmish. In the skirmish there were supposedly Novgorodians and Karelians against Swedish, Tavastians (semi-pagan-Christian Finns at that point), Finns (Christian Finns from SW part of Finland with bishop of Turku leading them) and even Norwegians(!).

Anyhow, like Michael wrote, these are good for until at least the early 15th century. Hopefully there will be some plastic cavalry as well soon.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Gandalf the G on November 02, 2015, 05:15:06 PM
Anyhow, like Michael wrote, these are good for until at least the early 15th century. Hopefully there will be some plastic cavalry as well soon.

Since resin cavalry of a few different flavors are already part of the "kickstarter", I doubt that they will do any in plastic.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151026 Mongol general - Tsubodai pic.
Post by: Dalauppror on December 02, 2015, 05:21:27 AM
God morning

Posted a bunch of pictures of the upcomming FireForge resine Alexander Nevsky mini at my blog (http://www.dalauppror.blogspot.se/2015/12/alexander-nevsky-wip-pictures.html)

Best regards Michael

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uIGR8mrLYZI/Vl31tsBmXmI/AAAAAAAAHjk/YqjUFKL1mTE/s400/Nevsky-2.gif)
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151202 Alexander Nevsky WIP pic.
Post by: Vermis on December 02, 2015, 10:08:45 AM
I'm sorry, but I think that horse's head needs to be redone ASAP.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151202 Alexander Nevsky WIP pic.
Post by: robh on December 02, 2015, 10:42:07 AM
I'm sorry, but I think that horse's head needs to be redone ASAP.

Given that this is going to be a resin model all the added detail is too coarse and bulky. The shield icon must be about 8" thick in scale. Looks like it has been done in preparation for the loss of detail /sharpness that results from plastic casting.
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151202 Alexander Nevsky WIP pic.
Post by: axabrax on December 02, 2015, 02:43:45 PM
I think all the figures are beauties. The Turkish/Eastern influence on Russian armor has always made it look exotic and interesting and cool. I also think the effect on the tabletop of the bas relief shields and banners will be stunning and fun to paint as well. I've always wanted to game the Mongols' invasion in the West, and this looks like a great opportunity! I'm much more interested in this personally than in battling the Teutonic Knights.

My only lament is that there doesn't seem to be an accompanying Mongol supplement for Deus Vult or it's skirmish variant being previewed with the Forgestarter--unless I've missed it somehow. It's odd that there is basically a full Mongol range and no rules for Mongols! I feel like part of what could help this campaign is marketing the history a little better (or at all) and this would have been a good way to do it.

Incidentally, Medieval Warfare magazine is doing a relevant Mongol Conquest of Europe issue this month with some stunning and inspiring artwork. Check out that awesome armor!

http://www.karwansaraypublishers.com/shop/catalog/product/gallery/id/677/image/1247/

That's a Mongol heavy cavalry and Russian knight locked in combat  ;D




Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151202 Alexander Nevsky WIP pic.
Post by: Paboook on February 06, 2016, 01:59:03 PM
It's odd that there is basically a full Mongol range and no rules for Mongols! I feel like part of what could help this campaign is marketing the history a little better (or at all) and this would have been a good way to do it.

How about these? Army list for Deus Vult: Novgorod Republic; Army list for Deus Vult: The Mongol Horde.

http://fireforge-games.com/downloads/category/3-deus-vult-armi-lists
Title: Re: Plastic Medieval Russians from FireForge 151202 Alexander Nevsky WIP pic.
Post by: delbruck on February 06, 2016, 03:15:57 PM
I am disappointed to see the Druzhina  will be resin. If these were in plastic they might have been a great complement to the Gripping Beast cavalry boxes.