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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Predatorpt on October 30, 2015, 05:45:36 PM

Title: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Predatorpt on October 30, 2015, 05:45:36 PM
It started today and it's already funded:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hawkwargames/dropfleet-commander

The ships are awesome but the fact that it's a game of orbital combat doesn't cut it for me  :'( But the ships will be useful for sure.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: The Voivod on October 30, 2015, 05:49:36 PM
Makes a lot of sense for it to be about orbital combat to me.

I'll keep an eye on it, but am unlikely to back.
Sure to get in in retail otherwise.

Models look awesome. I'm a UCM player, but those scourge ships are sweet.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Gibby on October 30, 2015, 07:25:46 PM
I guess orbital combat is the only sort of space combat where you can justify ships engaging at the close ranges we're used to.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Elbows on October 30, 2015, 07:29:47 PM
There have been two very lengthy segments covering this with the designers (including...tada...Andy Chambers) on the last couple of Beasts of War weekender videos.

I think some of the mechanics are really sound and I love the idea of the goal being to deliver troops...not just random space combat.  Between this and HALO whatever-it's-called, people are not incredibly spoilt for choice with some beautiful plastic ship kits.  I've debated picking up some of both just in case I ever get drawn into a fleet game, even if it's of a different type.

Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Inso on October 30, 2015, 08:17:54 PM
Not something that interests me...

... but those Scourge ships are things of artistic beauty  :o  :-*

Fantastic design :)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Agis on October 30, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
Same for me the Scourge ships are way to good to resist!
I will follow the KS with interest.

Funny thing is, that imo the ground bases designs never really struck me, some models yes, but never a playable faction.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Vermis on October 30, 2015, 09:24:13 PM
Jings. Usually I pass over these blockbuster kickstarters with a shrug, but this is a bit too tempting.

Good luck painting those Scourge ships anything like the photos, though. ;D (Heck, good luck just painting all those tiny little details at all)
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: YPU on October 30, 2015, 09:47:06 PM
I like the orbital combat idea. As somebody said its one of the few ways "short range" engagements actually make sense. Drop-zone commander was already a quite interesting game, and it has a good objective focus, which I like. I must say this is very tempting. However I think I will just pick them up once they are in actual production. If nothing else I'm really curious to the PHR fleet.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Engel on October 30, 2015, 09:48:25 PM
This is a kickstarter I plan to get into. But its really hard to decide on what to get, Im thinking that atleast an Shaltari starter to compliment my groundforces and a rulebook then we will see.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Harwood Hobbies on October 31, 2015, 03:53:22 PM
Pledged!  Love the look of those UCM ships!   :-*
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Elbows on October 31, 2015, 03:56:46 PM
For those who are unaware...the ships are sold in sprues with heaps of extra pieces...allowing you to build a frigate or cruiser into one of 5-10 types.  So in addition, the sprues will apparently leave you with a load of spare parts for kit-bashing and creating custom ships (if the game allows that).

Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: YPU on October 31, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
For those who are unaware...the ships are sold in sprues with heaps of extra pieces...allowing you to build a frigate or cruiser into one of 5-10 types.  So in addition, the sprues will apparently leave you with a load of spare parts for kit-bashing and creating custom ships (if the game allows that).

Really got the feeling I had when I first got some BFG ships from that myself.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: grant on October 31, 2015, 08:23:49 PM
Pledged!  Love the look of those UCM ships!   :-*

I'm loving the UCM ships too. And that Andy Chambers is the designer - outstanding. This game will rock.

UCM vs rebel UCM -  :D
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: FionaWhite on November 01, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
Those UCM ships tickle all my fancy spots.  :-*
And to me the Scourge ships look like flying whales with tentacles and a really ugly helmet crest...  :?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Elbows on November 01, 2015, 04:01:29 PM
And apparently Beasts of War is doing more videos on the game play etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLDc-iWib48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5xe3f5hyGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3e_RNSSST0

Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Daeothar on November 02, 2015, 02:24:43 PM
I have no doubt the game will be excellent. I've had heaps of fun with Drop Zone Commander, and to have this extra layer on top (literally) would certainly add to the fun. And with the fact that the same guys who did DZC, plus Andy frickin' Chambers are designing it, it's an almost sure bet that this will be good.

Plus: those satelite image maps are just awesome! I could see myself using them for X-wing as well. Battle over Tatooine or Coruscant anyone? 8)

However; the Kickstarter itself is leaving me rather underwhelmed at this point. It's all add-ons, but little to no freebies (unless you go in at the highest levels).

Maybe I've been spoiled by the Myth and Mercs:Recon Kickstarters, but at this rate, I'll simply wait for the game to be retailing...
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Agis on November 02, 2015, 02:45:55 PM
...

However; the Kickstarter itself is leaving me rather underwhelmed at this point. It's all add-ons, but little to no freebies (unless you go in at the highest levels).

Maybe I've been spoiled by the Myth and Mercs:Recon Kickstarters, but at this rate, I'll simply wait for the game to be retailing...

My thoughts exactly, for a KS it is to little freebie.
Basically it is now a pre-order with no real benefit.

I pledged, but I might jump off soon. They are in addition not very responsive to questions etc.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Vermis on November 02, 2015, 03:46:38 PM
Guys, please don't start with that. I've had a faceful of it already, elsewhere. It's about helping to fund a new game and range of minis, not about preordering and making them cut their own throats for you.

Or put it this way: if you're going to preorder or order anyway, why not do it now with a bit of a discount and give Hawk a tiny little bit of a legup to be able to bring it to preorder?

So many big kickstarters offer a bizarre, arcane range of bribes and dangling carrots to squeeze a bit more cash out of folks, and so many then seem to mess up or cut corners in some way. I think it's refreshing that Hawk has a pretty straightforward, basic list of needs and offers (even an aim to support LGSs, rather than get stuck in a cycle of KS preorders like some others), and that's partly why this is the first big KS I've backed.

Maybe they'll still run into trouble with the sheer demand that's already occured, just in the first few days, but I'll bet that keeping it simple won't add to that potential pitfall.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Njall on November 02, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
I really hope we'll be able to choose which fleet we receive with the Captain pledge. I don't really care for the Scourge and being able to start with UCM and PHR fleet would be more interesting (for me at least  :D )
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Love_the_Lash on November 02, 2015, 11:16:38 PM
Must confess I would like the 'exclusive' model but am really not sure about buying two boxed sets to get it...
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Agis on November 02, 2015, 11:21:23 PM
Agreed, the whole high pledge thing is a bit irritating....
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Major_Gilbear on November 03, 2015, 11:26:28 AM
I'll watch this and see how it gets on... I love these sort of games, but already have a few (that I already don't play!  :'().

I do like the exclusive ship, but I feel that as well as an exclusive freebie for £110 pledges, it should also be available as an add-on for a number of the lower pledges too.

I understand not wanting to overload the KS with lots of free stuff, but at the same time I think at least offering the exclusive model to KS backers for money seems fair. Not doing so at all unless you pledge £x is a bit churlish however. :?
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: zemjw on November 03, 2015, 11:53:53 AM
Quite tempted by this one. I wasn't too keen on the Scourge ships, but they're growing on me. I do really like the UCM ships, and the idea of fighting above a planet is a nice touch.

The lack of bolt-ons, and limiting certain ones to specific pledge levels, however, is making me pause

Plenty of time to decide...
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Engel on November 13, 2015, 09:28:19 AM
Damn it is hard to decide a sum to pledge. To many nice things. The Kickstarter seems to be gooing great and it feels reasuring to read over and over again that Hawk does not want to overstretch themselves and promising something they cant hold.

Now Im hoping to something more about the Shaltari ships. Maybe Im just coloured by the fact that I play them in Dropzone but I think they are the least impressive sculpts.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: FionaWhite on November 13, 2015, 01:32:53 PM

Evidently there's now another KS exclusive UCM ship available as a bolt-on.
No clue how big that thing is but when you can bolt-on a starter fleet for 35£ and this single ship is 40£, I'd assume big.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: The Voivod on November 13, 2015, 07:04:09 PM
That bolt on is a display piece. It's twice as big as the rest.
This is not a gaming model
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Elbows on November 13, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
Or...you bash up some rules for a super ship.  lol
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Engel on November 13, 2015, 07:21:19 PM
Im guessing it will be BIG. Its twice the size of an battleship in Dropfleet but they havnt really revealed the size of an battleship yet. Keep in mind that the ships in the kickstarter are just up to cruser clas or something.  :D
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: grant on November 13, 2015, 07:32:30 PM
Agreed, the whole high pledge thing is a bit irritating....

Apart from the horrible reputation of various KS projects that have been absolute disasters, exclusive models that are impossible to get unless you're a millionaire are what turns me off of KS. Sure, I'm poor, that's true, but I don't want it rubbed in my face when I can't participate!
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Engel on December 01, 2015, 09:24:39 PM
Only 49h left and lots of stretchgoal have been unlocked.
Im hoping that they will unlock the Frigate bonanza at 500k which seems plausible. Frigates for all...  :D


Here are some new videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaTmNxQ_FM0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92GeJ5uf6Hc
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: mdauben on December 02, 2015, 07:19:10 PM
I was always tempted to get into the original ground game.  I've only heard good things about it and I really like the look of some of the factions.  Just never got around to it.

I'm a sucker for space ship games though, so as soon as I saw this I knew I was hooked!   lol

I really like the ship designs, and the way each sprue can be used to build one of several different versions of each ship class.  What I've heard of the rules so far sounds good, and I like the unique "orbital" element of the game.  Finances are a bit tight with the holdiays and all, but I still managed to find the money for a pledge. 
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Engel on December 03, 2015, 07:43:13 PM
With about 3h left we got some 3591 backers and are past 590k £....  :o

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hawkwargames/dropfleet-commander/description
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Vermis on December 03, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
Well, that's done. I could tell because of the sudden wrench in my bank balance.
Title: Re: (KICKSTARTER) Dropfleet Commander by Hawk Wargames
Post by: Vanvlak on December 04, 2015, 06:48:29 AM
Well, that's done. I could tell because of the sudden wrench in my bank balance.
I hear you - I felt a great disturbance in the bank account :D