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Title: Frontier settings in space
Post by: 3 fingers on November 14, 2015, 02:32:00 PM
Just wondered who's done what ,I seen warlord Paul's blog with Boone landing,
And another Wild West style 40k planet that I've forgotten the name of .
But  I thought a setting like this would be ideal for skirmishes,and lead to wide range of miniatures being used, sci fi gunslingers  :o
I always liked the Wild West exodus idea in space
But just don't like the miniatures they produced or warmachines cygnar either.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Elbows on November 14, 2015, 05:15:13 PM
Firefly.

I'd play a skirmish game based on it.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: tnjrp on November 15, 2015, 08:50:55 AM
Not quite sure what's being asked about here.

I'm not aware of a consistent line of miniatures for scifi gunslingers. If the steampunky stuff (including Malifaux) isn't to your liking, there are some not-Firefly crew models around. Reaper probably has one or two that could work for space westerns. Dark Age too and some other post-apoc lines maybe. The Icarus Project just recently brought out a space marshal type and Counterblast probably has something like that too. Obviously you could also convert some real WW figs but that might be a bit too much of a bother.

As for rules, if you chop off all the magic type stuff I'm sure Wild West Exodus would work pretty well for space cowboys. Generally, small skirmish scifi or post-apoc rule sets should work I'd think.

For inspiration, if you are not allergic to anime you might try Trigun or perhaps IMCO superior Cowboy Bebop which I don't find quite so wild-westernly as their tagline "see you space cowboy!" might indicate.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: 3 fingers on November 15, 2015, 09:03:05 AM
Well I was asking if anyone had done similar or had seen similar in blogs or other forums etc.
I thought I seen one that had artizan design miniatures but can't find it now.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 15, 2015, 11:43:25 AM
There are a fair few people out there doing Firefly style games. Not happened yet but at some point I'd expect Pinnacle to do the Reloaded version of the third Deadlands setting 'Lost Colony'. That was a western in space and they've done miniatures for the other two so I'd expect more of the same.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: YPU on November 15, 2015, 12:12:19 PM
There are a fair few people out there doing Firefly style games. Not happened yet but at some point I'd expect Pinnacle to do the Reloaded version of the third Deadlands setting 'Lost Colony'. That was a western in space and they've done miniatures for the other two so I'd expect more of the same.

Oh hey I hadn't thought about that possibility yet.  :o
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Cubs on November 15, 2015, 12:22:02 PM
Ever seen the Sean Connery film 'Outland'? (Not to be confused with the odd sci-fi/Viking film 'Outlander'.)

It's basically 'High Noon' but set in a futuristic (but not too futuristic) mining facility in space (on an asteroid I think). A little gem it is, with plenty of scope for gaming.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Westfalia Chris on November 15, 2015, 12:34:26 PM
Ever seen the Sean Connery film 'Outland'? (Not to be confused with the odd sci-fi/Viking film 'Outlander'.)

It's basically 'High Noon' but set in a futuristic (but not too futuristic) mining facility in space (on an asteroid I think). A little gem it is, with plenty of scope for gaming.

Set on the Jovian Moon Io (I read once they changed the original title "Io" to "Outland" since people kept reading it as "10"  lol). Very good, that one, with swell model work by Martin Bower of "Alien" fame. Underrated, and shows up far too rarely on TV, and I agree it captures the "lone lawman" thing perfectly - it's a Space Western without the Western trappings (I loved Firefly, but the production design was always oscillating between underwhelmingly mundane and OTT).
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Predatorpt on November 15, 2015, 01:24:47 PM
You should check Ironworker's blog:

http://ironworkersminiatures.blogspot.pt/

His setting history is here:

http://ironworkersminiatures.blogspot.pt/p/solarempires-nathan-miller-2013.html

Lots of scratchbuilt stuff; various manufacturers used together, lots of toys converted... :-*

Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Lysander on November 15, 2015, 03:13:15 PM
Heresy and Hasslefree have a lot of miniatures that could work.

Reaper has some as well.  There actually are quite a number of figs that fit.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: 3 fingers on November 15, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Many thanks for the suggestions  :)
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: area23 on November 15, 2015, 08:27:40 PM
After all, Han Solo was nothing but a space cowboy.

Don't forget the Marshall Bravestar '80's cartoon!
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Oldben1 on November 16, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
I'm doing something similar, just a blending of Star Wars / Firefly and old west.  Mos Eisley seems like a good start to me!  Frontier town with villainy down every alley.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: NurgleHH on November 16, 2015, 06:03:07 PM
You should check Ironworker's blog:

http://ironworkersminiatures.blogspot.pt/

His setting history is here:

http://ironworkersminiatures.blogspot.pt/p/solarempires-nathan-miller-2013.html

Lots of scratchbuilt stuff; various manufacturers used together, lots of toys converted... :-*


Great Blog and fantastic tables
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: The_Beast on November 16, 2015, 06:18:34 PM
Battle Beyond the Stars was a space Magnificent Seven... meets John Boy.  lol

If I didn't love it so much, I would have called Outland a ripoff of High Noon. Big point, it's the feel of the western movie without constant 'oh look, he has a cowboy hat' 'Oh he's got a blaster that looks like a Colt revolver...'

I'm going to guess that's what Chris is talking about. On the other hand, Firefly was so good otherwise, I forgave it.  :D

Bravestar, I can't.

Doug
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Westfalia Chris on November 16, 2015, 07:20:05 PM
I'm going to guess that's what Chris is talking about. On the other hand, Firefly was so good otherwise, I forgave it.  :D

I'd say that's it.

To illustrate, there's two great episodes in Firefly that highlight it for me - "Jaynestown" and "Heart of Gold". The former's just a big puddle of mud (or Space MississippiTM, for what I know), the latter has this gloriously cheesy Best Little Whorehouse in Space TexasTM thing going on, what with the solar panel walls, and the villains have a hoverjeep. It looks like they blew their SFX budget on every other episode, leaving slim pickings for the series' other half.  lol
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Argonor on November 16, 2015, 09:42:34 PM

And another Wild West style 40k planet that I've forgotten the name of .


That would be 'Logan's World' in The Eye of Terror.

If you are after minis with a 'Space Cowboy' vibe, try browsing Reaper's Chronoscope line, among others.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Vermis on November 17, 2015, 01:50:39 AM
Don't forget the Marshall Bravestar '80's cartoon!

 :D

Firefly was so good otherwise, I forgave it.  :D

Bravestar, I can't.

 :o

How could you not like Bravestarr? It had ewoks and everything!
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Dewbakuk on November 17, 2015, 02:04:30 AM
:D

 :o

How could you not like Bravestarr? It had ewoks and everything!

It was awful. Even as a kid I thought it was terrible. Still watched it though 😉
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: The_Beast on November 17, 2015, 04:11:28 AM
How could you not like Bravestarr? It had ewoks and everything!

Well, I suppose I didn't watch enough for it to grow on me. Sort of like a lot of fungus I've avoided...  ;D

It was awful. Even as a kid I thought it was terrible. Still watched it though 😉


Ah, I suppose that was part of the problem; I wasn't a kid. I forgave a LOT as a kid.

Really? Not even a comment about the Space Valkyrie?  lol

Doug
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Elk101 on November 17, 2015, 07:01:26 AM
There was also an Old West world visited by Starbuck in the original series of Battlestar Galactica. It had Red Eye the gunfighting Cylon.

I remember quite liking Battle Beyond the Stars. I don't think I've heard of Space Valkyrie unfortunately. I'll look it up.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Rhoderic on November 17, 2015, 09:20:29 AM
Ooh, I remember Bravestarr! It never ran on Swedish telly (I think) but I had some VHS tapes of it.

I also had tapes of Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs, one of those 80s Japanese anime series re-edited for a Western audience. It had a fairly strong space western theme as well, albeit mixed with some typically Japanese high-tech elements. Anyone else remember that one? I remember thinking as a child that between Bravestarr and Saber Rider, the latter was superior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awxKPdqLHGE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awxKPdqLHGE)
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Brummie on November 17, 2015, 09:31:21 AM
I'm doing a 15mm sci fi frontier setting on the side of my 15mm sci fi military stuff. So much for it in that scale. I have plenty of fauna and flora rolled out for more interesting planets and I can tie it into my 15mm military setting.

Considered doing a similar project in 28mm, but can't decide if its worth having a different setting for that, as most 28mm sci fi figures are more advanced looking, so considered a more Game of Thrones in space style shizmo.
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: Rhoderic on November 17, 2015, 10:51:52 AM
My sci-fi urban gang war project is going to have a space western connection, counterintuitive though it may sound. Specifically, this will be in the form of the "Docker Mafia", one of the factions I've thought up for my mega-city underworld.

In this setting, "Dockers" are immigrants who have come to the mega-city from various frontier colony planets which generally have kind of a rugged space western air about them. Within an urban context they're something of an immigrant ethnicity and as such they're forced to endure some degree of unofficial segregation, xenophobia and discrimination. These conditions have forged a mafia which is quite prominent in the mega-city underworld. Members of the Docker Mafia are generally proud of their frontier-world heritage and like to reflect this in their style of dress.

The way I intend to model them, they won't look all too much out of place in an urban milieu, but there will be some stetsons, boots, longcoats (in shades of brown), big belt buckles, bolo ties, vests/waistcoats and the like.

This could also be a good springboard for me to do a proper space western project in the future, but if I do I'll probably keep it quite low-key (no robot horses or aliens that look like Native Americans, for instance).
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: The_Beast on November 17, 2015, 04:34:31 PM
...I don't think I've heard of Space Valkyrie unfortunately. I'll look it up.

Sorry, I was referring to Saint-Exmin in Battle Beyond... ;D

Doug
Title: Re: Frontier settings in space
Post by: 3 fingers on November 17, 2015, 08:53:25 PM
My sci-fi urban gang war project is going to have a space western connection, counterintuitive though it may sound. Specifically, this will be in the form of the "Docker Mafia", one of the factions I've thought up for my mega-city underworld.

In this setting, "Dockers" are immigrants who have come to the mega-city from various frontier colony planets which generally have kind of a rugged space western air about them. Within an urban context they're something of an immigrant ethnicity and as such they're forced to endure some degree of unofficial segregation, xenophobia and discrimination. These conditions have forged a mafia which is quite prominent in the mega-city underworld. Members of the Docker Mafia are generally proud of their frontier-world heritage and like to reflect this in their style of dress.

The way I intend to model them, they won't look all too much out of place in an urban milieu, but there will be some stetsons, boots, longcoats (in shades of brown), big belt buckles, bolo ties, vests/waistcoats and the like.

This could also be a good springboard for me to do a proper space western project in the future, but if I do I'll probably keep it quite low-key (no robot horses or aliens that look like Native Americans, for instance).

That sounds a unique and great theme,when I read that ,I instantly thought of the Patrick swayze film,next of kin,where all the hillbillies ,stick together in the bar and boarding house in the town they go looking for work.