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Title: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 23, 2008, 11:16:02 PM
Got some models of Yesteryear cheap off of Ebay.
I am repainting them to use in my pulp games.
Below is the before picture.
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1473.jpg)

A couple of pictures of the first repaint.
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1480.jpg)

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1487.jpg)
Not decided whether to put the canopy on or not.
Anybody got good advice on weathering vehicles. I always end up with too much or too little. What colours/paints work best?
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Remington on November 24, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Nicely done! I really like that green color. The dust and dirt on the tires looks really believable.

Now, I got myself two yesteryears as well and I was wondering if you removed the tires/wheels before you painted it. And did you spray prime it at all?

Cheers,

R
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 24, 2008, 10:13:29 AM
I think you have done an excellent job there. You have turned a cheap toy into a great wargames model. Your weathering looks fine to me!

Your models pass the "photo enlargement" test with flying colours  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 24, 2008, 10:14:59 AM
Remington
I didn't remove the tires on this one. I thought I might damage the rims, and the axle was a single piece. I did split the rest of the vehicle up into its component parts by drilling out the rivets on the bottom.
I tried just sanding it first then painting it but at the edges the paint was just flaking off the original blue gloss paint. So I then spray painted a black primer, which seemed to work well.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Malamute on November 24, 2008, 10:19:21 AM
very nicely done. :)
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Remington on November 24, 2008, 10:46:10 AM
Thank you for your reply.

Yiikiies, drilling out the rivers is probably a bit over my toolbox's capabilities. :) I guess I'll have to try some things out.

Again... absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on November 24, 2008, 10:55:34 AM
I think the weathering looks just right. 

Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 24, 2008, 11:31:41 AM
Thanks for the complements.
Remington
Drilling out the rivets is easy. I use a Black and Decker cordless drill with a drill bit of about 4 mm diameter. You just need to hollow out the rivet a bit then you should be able to break off the edge with a pair of pliers.

I have got another one started. But I am not sure the best way to finish it. Below is a picture of it stripped and prepared for spraying. As you can see it was originally white. It’s a very large Mercedes that I want to paint black for my pulp Germans. I have not got a photo of it sprayed but it is now matt black.
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1479.jpg)
My problem is that I think it should have a gloss finish. The question is, do I high light the black before glossing or do I just go ahead and gloss over the matt black? I am not sure which will look best on a scale model.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Argonor on November 24, 2008, 11:52:38 AM
I think that if you're going to use gloss varnish, you should not highlight.

I've done a lot of GW gems without adding the small white dot, and then varnished the gem - the highlight will be formed by the natural light - (and as we usually view the minis from an elevated position, the light will reflect at the upper part of the gem, as intended).
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Johnnytodd on November 24, 2008, 01:25:28 PM
Are the "MODELS of YESTERYEAR" all the same scale?  what scale?
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 24, 2008, 01:32:34 PM
Not sure what exact scale they are but they fit nice with 28 mm figures. The ones I have all appear to be the same scale.
I have a couple of sloppy Jalopy vehicles WIP. If I ever finish building them I will post a picture of them both together. It might give you an idea of the size.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Remington on November 24, 2008, 01:47:56 PM
Thanks, gamer Mac. I'll give it a try.

I also would not highlight the black if you are going to use gloss varnish. When you highlight, you "emulate" shadows and shines. If you add the real shine to that from the varnish, it will only confuse the eye.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Saya on November 24, 2008, 05:40:09 PM
I recently bought two vehicles on ebay too, but Lledo, as there are scale 1 / 43. Looks very good with figures of 28mm.
Very nice paint work.
Cheers
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Onebigriver on November 24, 2008, 07:43:49 PM
Nicely done. I was tempted to buy some Yesteryear models from a charity shop recently, there were 5 or 6 in a bag, all knackered, but the shop wanted £5 for them! I'll have to have a look on Ebay.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: theoldschool on November 24, 2008, 09:07:07 PM
Very nice indeed. I've got a load of these but had been putting off a repaint because I couldn't work out what to do with the tyres. I hadn't thought of masking tape, but it's so obvious now.
I also picked up a couple of the Bluemoon trucks, more expsnive but lovely models.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Remington on November 25, 2008, 01:08:00 AM
I got one or two question more that just struck me. Why exactly the masking paint for the tires? You are painting them anyway when you weather them. And wouldn't you want the spokes to get primed as well, so you can paint them a bit easier?

I am sorry if these are silly questions...
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 25, 2008, 08:56:48 AM
Sorry no pictures which would better explain it. The reason for the masking tape is that the tyres are white wall type and the rims on this vehicle were very fine spokes already silver that I didn’t see the need to repaint and I didn’t want to take the tyres off because I thought I may damage them.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: dodge on November 25, 2008, 09:05:28 AM
Nicely done. I was tempted to buy some Yesteryear models from a charity shop recently, there were 5 or 6 in a bag, all knackered, but the shop wanted £5 for them! I'll have to have a look on Ebay.

Was that £5 for all of them, thats good value if they still have all the bits, you will repaint them anyway so for £1 each thats not bad, unless they were really badly damaged?

I picked up one for £1.25 in the box from a charity fayre which I repainted.

A kit will set you bck between £5 - £15 depending on what or where you buy so these toys are quite good for us really.

dodge
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 25, 2008, 04:37:00 PM
A couple of pictures of the finished Mercedes. This is the one that started out white and I painted black. Not sure what else to do to it? It looks like a toy again. Any suggestions?

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1492.jpg)

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1494.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Remington on November 25, 2008, 05:21:56 PM
First off... The miniature next to it is a real eye candy! Love it.

I think the gloss is the wrong way to go with these. You are right. It looks like a toned down matchbox. I think I would use the same technique as with the first model and varnish it matt.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Bako on November 25, 2008, 07:10:24 PM
Put some matte on it, and maybe put a little grit on and around the tires. That should help. Great work, that mini as well!
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: theoldschool on November 25, 2008, 07:31:43 PM
Why do anything with it. If you had a nice big shiny Merc in the 1930s I'm sure as hell you would keep it polished until you could see your face in it (or at least employ someone to keep it shiny for you), and there certainly wouldn't be any oil spill or dust on it. It's perfect as it is.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Malamute on November 26, 2008, 08:49:44 AM
Why do anything with it. If you had a nice big shiny Merc in the 1930s I'm sure as hell you would keep it polished until you could see your face in it (or at least employ someone to keep it shiny for you), and there certainly wouldn't be any oil spill or dust on it. It's perfect as it is.

Absolutely agree, but if you wanted to do dirty it up a bit, then perhaps a light drybrush of mud around the tyres etc.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 26, 2008, 09:51:31 AM
Why do anything with it. If you had a nice big shiny Merc in the 1930s I'm sure as hell you would keep it polished until you could see your face in it (or at least employ someone to keep it shiny for you), and there certainly wouldn't be any oil spill or dust on it. It's perfect as it is.

Absolutely agree, but if you wanted to do dirty it up a bit, then perhaps a light drybrush of mud around the tyres etc.

Yet again, I must agree with Malamute [and of course theoldschool ]. It looks fine to me as it is. The gloss isn't too overpowering and it is just right for use by the local Supervillain  :)
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Remington on November 26, 2008, 10:03:07 AM
Well, I think neither myself nor Bako thought this does not look good. It actually looks great. In my eyes this tho also looks too much like the original matchbox due to the gloss... And that is shame for all the work put into it. That's all.
Dirtying up the tires and maybe even the sides a bit is a good idea, Malamute.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 26, 2008, 10:10:22 AM
Cheers guys
I will try the mud later on and post another picture.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Onebigriver on November 26, 2008, 01:59:09 PM
Nicely done. I was tempted to buy some Yesteryear models from a charity shop recently, there were 5 or 6 in a bag, all knackered, but the shop wanted £5 for them! I'll have to have a look on Ebay.

Was that £5 for all of them, thats good value if they still have all the bits, you will repaint them anyway so for £1 each thats not bad, unless they were really badly damaged?

I picked up one for £1.25 in the box from a charity fayre which I repainted.

A kit will set you bck between £5 - £15 depending on what or where you buy so these toys are quite good for us really.

dodge

They seemed to be in really bad condition to me, probably should have taken a closer look now you mention it....
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Mancha on November 26, 2008, 03:51:38 PM
A big part of the problem is the spokes of the wheels are too shiny.  Apply a black wash to make them stand out.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: dodge on November 27, 2008, 04:43:24 PM
They seemed to be in really bad condition to me, probably should have taken a closer look now you mention it....

After I posted this I thought I came accross a bit 'arsey' so sorry if it did.

No one wants to pay money for real crap and I wouldn't if they had tyres or wheels missing, but a little chipped paint would be ok in my book for a quid each. Local charity/church fayres are good for cheap good quality models of yesteryear, looked after , in box selling for around £1.25 - £2.

I think thats still good value.
 :D
Dodge

 
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 29, 2008, 04:06:44 PM
I know the title said Yesteryear repaint but this one is not a model of yesteryear.
This was a Kellogg’s van (Lledo days gone). It is now a van for the British museums exploration team. Added some signs to the side, some racks and baggage on the roof and also the back windows which were originally just holes.
Front view. Pictured with Prof. Windsor-Smyth and his daughter Elisabeth
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1500.jpg)
Back
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1501.jpg)
Top
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1502.jpg)
Close up of baggage
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp223/gamerMac/DCP_1503.jpg)
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Calimero on November 29, 2008, 04:16:16 PM
Nice model gamer Mac.

I love the details on the baggage and the way you paint the headlight and rear windows.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Onebigriver on November 29, 2008, 05:13:09 PM
They seemed to be in really bad condition to me, probably should have taken a closer look now you mention it....

After I posted this I thought I came accross a bit 'arsey' so sorry if it did.

No one wants to pay money for real crap and I wouldn't if they had tyres or wheels missing, but a little chipped paint would be ok in my book for a quid each. Local charity/church fayres are good for cheap good quality models of yesteryear, looked after , in box selling for around £1.25 - £2.

I think thats still good value.
 :D
Dodge

Don't worry mate, didn't think you were being arsey. I'm not used to the difference in prices between northern and southern charity shops yet, and I'm on a zombie trip at the mo, buying cheap modern civvie vehicles for terrain, so pulp is on the future project list. Did pick up a 1920s Kellogs van in a poundshop in Manchester though.

 
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Cory on November 29, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
A couple of pictures of the finished Mercedes. This is the one that started out white and I painted black. Not sure what else to do to it? It looks like a toy again. Any suggestions?

In getting ready to paint a similar car I've been mulling over how yours came out and have two suggestions;

1) Weather the roof more. The rest ofthe gloss is fine but the roof willshow wear and tear faster.

2) Insert a plastic windshield with mud spatter.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Gluteus Maximus on November 29, 2008, 09:00:11 PM
I really like that British museum van. It looks just right to go trekking all over Asia and Africa.  :D
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Remington on November 30, 2008, 10:13:53 AM
Beautiful!!!  :-* The windows on the pack are absolutely stunning. That's a lot of inspiration for the fresh yy repainters.

May I ask where you have that pack with shovel from?
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: white knight on November 30, 2008, 12:17:14 PM
I love the details on the baggage and the way you paint the headlight and rear windows.

Seconded. ;D
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on November 30, 2008, 01:07:13 PM
Remington
The two packs are from the GW plastic Catachan heavy weapon spru. With the GW stuff, not suitable, cut off, skulls and things.

Thanks for the complements.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Schweizer on December 02, 2008, 05:26:29 PM
Are all of the yesteryear vehicles the right scale?  I might order one or two from eBay, but have been disappointed with my poor scale estimates in the past.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Wirelizard on December 03, 2008, 04:17:10 AM
Scale of the Yesteryear stuff varies - classic "box scale" toys. My eight or so Yesteryear vehicles are buried in a box at present, but I think they vary from 1/43 to 1/60.

So they're all "roughly" near 28mm, but not all of them look as good alongside 28mm figures.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on June 08, 2009, 01:16:18 PM
Sorry for the bit of thread necromancy but I thought I would add on some pictures of the Film crew car I included in my last LPL round entry.
This is a repaint of a Days Gone, by Lledo, taxi that was originally green.
Below is a link to the original blue version. I got this of eBay for a couple of pounds.

www.taxigov.co.uk/catalog/images/0241_1.JPG (http://www.taxigov.co.uk/catalog/images/0241_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_08_06_09_2_05_47_3.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_08_06_09_2_05_47_2.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_08_06_09_2_05_47_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_08_06_09_2_05_47_0.JPG)


Boxes are made out of balsa wood and the light is made out of a bit of a plastic pen and some brass rod for the legs.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Malebolgia on June 08, 2009, 02:07:40 PM
Fantastic stuff! I have six of those Lledo cars lying around and your stuff is really inspiring to work on them! Thumbs up.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Bungle on June 08, 2009, 02:33:13 PM
Top job

Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on June 08, 2009, 03:55:34 PM
The couple of pounds I paid was including postage which was almost as dear as the car itself. Most of the ones I bought went for about a pound from ebay.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Bungle on June 08, 2009, 08:19:38 PM
Local shop has a big basket with the at £1 each.... I keep popping in to dredge the basket and pick a few up.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: stuzzar on June 08, 2009, 08:33:33 PM
Marvellous work on the vehicles (and figures) very inspirational

Cheers

Stu
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: Mogimbu on June 10, 2009, 01:55:15 AM
Quite inspiring, indeed.  I really like the Museum truck, as well as the Film crew and their vehicle.  Great effects with glass, too.

Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: oldskoolrebel on June 14, 2009, 07:09:46 PM
Hello,

Can any provide me with average dimensions for the yesteryear vehicles especially trucks? I'll need to know a height, width and length.

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on June 14, 2009, 07:11:30 PM
Why???
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: oldskoolrebel on June 14, 2009, 07:14:57 PM
Ha! Now that would be telling!

I'm attempting to design a warehouse, which will feature a loading area that trucks can drive into, although I've got no ideas of dimensions of the yesteryear models.

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on June 14, 2009, 07:18:58 PM
I'll let you know. Give me 15 min.
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: oldskoolrebel on June 14, 2009, 07:22:03 PM
Cheers Colin!
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: gamer Mac on June 14, 2009, 07:40:30 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_14_06_09_8_35_55_1.JPG)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_14_06_09_8_35_55_0.JPG)


width of 40 mm

will that do?

Colin
Title: Re: Pulp Vehicles - Yesteryear repaints
Post by: oldskoolrebel on June 14, 2009, 07:41:38 PM
Yeah that is fantastic thanks Colin!

All I'll need to do is to try and pick up some cork tiles and I can actually get building!

Cheers
Andy