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Miniatures Adventure => Pikes, Muskets and Flouncy Shirts => Topic started by: Lowtardog on November 24, 2008, 11:38:36 AM
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Right my winter project (and Chrimbo pressie list) is planned out. It is going to be French Indian wars French Canadian force
As I ramble through there may be some questions I need help with
so I have;
The 24 Conquest Marines, these are very nice and being primed this week for a start. I have a few illustrations of the uniform though as they are in campaign gear not too worried.
A couple of questions - those with the fatigue cap, would I be right in thinking that it has a blue band with a white/off white sock?
I know they were issued a Naval pattern unifomr without collar etc but I have noticed quite a few have hoods on their jackets, would these still be blue? or are they civilian jackets-home made?
I also have 14 of their Frontiersmen who will be the French Canadian milita - no problems there
Indians I am going for a large war party of 70 or so with most of the conquest range plus the perry indians
To cap it off I have also ordered 2 regiments of the Crusader 7YW French as they are 20 men strong they should be ideal for This vedry ground. I kow they are wearing european unifors however form the little reading I have done they originally wore the naval pattern uniform when the set out for New France but later were issued with European uniforms in the campaign. I think if I paint the odd figure with different coloured trousers, different jacket perhaps they should work OK. I have found a good site with pictures of the falgs so that should make it clear. I am toying with adding in the odd hatchet or tomahawk if I can find them onto their webbing belts. Jacket colour wise I know it is said to be a grey/white. I was thinking of using a light grey base coat with bone white drybrush and white highlights would this look OK ? as I think white would be a little too much especially on campaign etc and I am sure dyes were not colour fast nor would rank and file be issued with pure white wool uniforms.
The final thing I am looking around for will be a little bit of artillery, I am thinking along the lines of using some of the Foundry/Perry AWI figures but will keep an eye out for those only in waist coats etc as the French wore read from what I can see. I already have plenty of ships cannon so can use them for the seiges etc.
Generals - I want a couple of mounted officers and am thinking to mix well with the above Perry/Conquest figures I should be looking at Foudnry and Perry again - any ideas for the best bet to "look French"?
My mate has the rangers and the Redoubt civilians etc and will likely expand his figures to match mine, here he is spoilt for choice more so than a French gamer. Plans are in the first instance to do a bit of a seige as in the old film Drums along the Mohawk - hence the indians :D and that French Marine with the Tricorne pointing is ideal for the baddie character. redoubt also have the villagers fleeing which are straight out of the film including the cart and stry cows etc.
So any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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I have no idea about the period, but if I can make a suggestion, it might be better to use the Coat d'Arms Unbleached Linen for the midtone on the uniform coats as bone white can look a bit brownish sometimes, and I don't see that working with a grey basecoat.
Other than that, sonds like a damn fine plan! :)
I've had to take a winter break on the painting, at least for the time being as it's frigging baltic in my loft. And a post-BLAM! malaise too. Need to sort out next years so I've got something to work towards!
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I have no idea about the period, but if I can make a suggestion, it might be better to use the Coat d'Arms Unbleached Linen for the midtone on the uniform coats as bone white can look a bit brownish sometimes, and I don't see that working with a grey basecoat.
Other than that, sonds like a damn fine plan! :)
I've had to take a winter break on the painting, at least for the time being as it's frigging baltic in my loft. And a post-BLAM! malaise too. Need to sort out next years so I've got something to work towards!
Thats Great JB, Bleached Linen it is :D thanks for the idea.
I paint in the lounge on a little tray on the dining room table that I then have to stick it back in the garage. I dont compian as I have the box room full of my junk but one day I will clear out the garage and make a little room there.
t is bloody cold at the moment though.
Now, BLAM inspired me to get more stuff done, that and we had our first game of fantasy last Friday with my slowly (though speeding up) painted orcs and goblins - only 5 more units to do ;D and boy I forgot how nasty some of the fantasy critters can be :o in the game
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I also have 14 of their Frontiersmen who will be the French Canadian milita - no problems there
I think most of the "marines" figures would much make better Canadian militia than the frontiersmen. While there are a few of the latter that I think are suitable. the "marines" fit the stereotype better with the coats and tuque stocking caps. It's also a chance to distinguish between your militia units by painting them with different colour tuques (red for Quebec, blue for montreal and white for Trois Rivieres apparently).
I'd also be a little wary of the fringed hunting shirts that you find among the frontiersmen which seem to be a from a later period.
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First, congrats to your plan. The FIW is a very interesting and colourful period. There's even room for some European myth/fantasy - you might have seen the photos of our recent gaming session.
Actually, judging from this thread's title I hoped for forces set into deep Canadian winter. Maybe a suggestion?
A couple of questions - those with the fatigue cap, would I be right in thinking that it has a blue band with a white/off white sock? I know they were issued a Naval pattern unifomr without collar etc but I have noticed quite a few have hoods on their jackets, would these still be blue? or are they civilian jackets-home made?
Soldiers "de la Marine" (no marines!) wore the standard French uniform of the time, i.e. a grey-white coat. This was faced blue and had golden/yellow applications (buttonholes, hatlace and the like). Their company's symbol was an anchor. This uniform was mainly reserved for guard duty in large towns; otherwise the soldiers made their own clothing.
There are some uncertainties about the informal dress, but as far as my own research goes, they had blue fatigue caps with golden/yellow lace and tassel. The jackets are actually made from outworn uniforms, so they should be of the same grey-white. They were tailored along an Indian fashion - therefore any other colour could be used representing an Indian gift or trade ware.
I kow they are wearing european unifors however form the little reading I have done they originally wore the naval pattern uniform when the set out for New France but later were issued with European uniforms in the campaign. I think if I paint the odd figure with different coloured trousers, different jacket perhaps they should work OK.
In contrast to the Marine-troops which were issued by the ministry of naval affairs, the European regulars (called Metropolitaines), which were shipped to the colonies, were under the control of the ministry of war. They wore official dress which means grey-white uniforms laced in regimental colours, and don't seem to have altered their uniforms significantly while on campaign. Respectively the second battalions of the La Reine, Languedoc, Guyenne, Béarn, Royal-Roussillon and La Sarre regiments went to America, the Berry regiment detached its third battalion.
You might find the Ospreys on the Louis XV's Army, volume 2 (French Infantry) and 5 (Colonial & Naval troops), quite useful. The book on Specialist troops (4) isn't necessary for the beginning as gunners are already depicted in both the others IIRC.
I was thinking of using a light grey base coat with bone white drybrush and white highlights would this look OK ? as I think white would be a little too much especially on campaign etc and I am sure dyes were not colour fast nor would rank and file be issued with pure white wool uniforms.
Another debate. No one knows for sure how these grey-white uniforms looked exactly. So you're free to any variation. I've had positive experiences with Vallejo's Ghost Grey, but Foundry's Arctic Grey should work as well, just start with a darker base colour.
Generals - I want a couple of mounted officers and am thinking to mix well with the above Perry/Conquest figures I should be looking at Foudnry and Perry again - any ideas for the best bet to "look French"?
Just before the AWI many European armies altered their uniforms dramatically (shortened coat tails, shortened waistcoats etc.), so if you're a bit picky, don't use Perry regulars for this earlier conflict. If you're not: the more "traditionally" uniformed troops were the Hessians, especially the garrison regiments. You should look for gaiters or boots, breeches and a long-tailed coat. Hessian generals like Knyphausen could work. Some militiamen should also be useful as - guess what! - militia & frontiersmen.
My mate has the rangers and the Redoubt civilians etc and will likely expand his figures to match mine, here he is spoilt for choice more so than a French gamer.
Just be cautious, the Redoubt range for the FIW is a bit broken. They changed their sculptor, and so many later figs don't fit in with their older comrades. Thus pity!
Anyway, good luck, pour le roi, pour la patrie!
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Many thanks for all the information gents this is great.
I think you are right on the conquest Marine as more militia and this was where I was struggling with some of the equipment and clothing they are sculpted in. I think you hit the nail on the head ther Sade Doc, though I will still mix in the frontiersmen would be a shame not too ;D
I have been scouring the 7YW Foundry figures and think one or two generals and artilley might be suitable rather than any of the AWI so will keep an eye out for the odd pack of generals etc.
I will try out some ideas on the French Metro.. regiment uniform colour and see how it goes.
I have a few books on order including the Ospreys so I can improve my knowledge.
I know what you mean about the redoubt figures I did have a French army for AWI and used some of their indians to add a bit of colour and as you say the first packs were very nice but quickly went downhill and varied widley in style.
Again many thanks gents
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Soldiers "de la Marine" (no marines!) ... There are some uncertainties about the informal dress, but as far as my own research goes, they had blue fatigue caps with golden/yellow lace and tassel. The jackets are actually made from outworn uniforms, so they should be of the same grey-white. They were tailored along an Indian fashion - therefore any other colour could be used representing an Indian gift or trade ware.
Soldier of the compagnies franches de la marine in campaign gear (fatigue cap, sleeved veste and mitasses).
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q313/CitizenSade/compagniesfranchesdelamarine.jpg)
Can't remember where this was ripped from
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I have a few books on order including the Ospreys so I can improve my knowledge.
The Osprey on Monongahela, while clearly pro-Canadian, has some interesting pictures which seem to have been the inspiration for many of Conquest's Canadians. In these, the only thing that really distinguishes the militia from the "marines" in campaign gear is the colour of their caps.
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I have a few books on order including the Ospreys so I can improve my knowledge.
The Osprey on Monongahela, while clearly pro-Canadian, has some interesting pictures which seem to have been the inspiration for many of Conquest's Canadians. In these, the only thing that really distinguishes the militia from the "marines" in campaign gear is the colour of their caps.
Arghh cant see image whilst at home though I think it is one where he has a pipe in his mouth?
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Yes, that's right and he's wearing a blue veste.
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Citizen Sade, had exactly this picture on my mind, but sadly not on my PC. Thanks for posting.
Since Lowtardog asked for hooded jackets (capots) I replied to this. According to Osprey and some French resources these jackets were, as said, from old (grey-white) coats. The sleeved waistcoat shown here is part of a soldier's summer dress - simply take off the baggy uniform coat. Besides, the painting isn't accurate in showing silver buttons; they should be gilded as the lace colour is gold, too. Oh my... ;)
Some resources suggest fatigue caps with white 'bags'. It's unlikely to be, but I added them to my French just for fun. Here's a (not very advantageous) pic of some of them, mainly Conquest, one Redoubt Regular in the middle.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/Poliorketes/Tabletop/SJK%20Franzosen/Marines004.jpg)
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Arghh again will have to wait until at home to see the picture. I can see I will have some fun painting these much more of a mish mash of unifomrs, I am rather prleased that I was right in thinking the white top coat was worn and the figure shown is in the blue vest.
Looking forward to slapping some paint on them now :D
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the FIW is looking more and more attractive to me ever min.
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Hi, for your project have a look at some of the table attached, i hope could help you.
Piero
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207093013170french1.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207093013170french2.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207093013171french3.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207092308350mononghaelaleader.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207092308351frenchmilicia.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/Compagnies_franches.jpg
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some others old paint.
if you plan to do some French Milicie please kkep in mind that tuque(hat )is red for all , nad not blue or white.
cheers
Piero
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/winterkit.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/summer.jpg
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the FIW is looking more and more attractive to me ever min.
FIW is a fascinating period to game. It has a little bit of everything that might intrigue a wargamer, and is as colorful as the European theater in its own woodsy way. There are great units on both sides that bring a fun mix of European and Native tactics and clothing.
Lowtardog, I know it might not be entirely accurate, but I know generals were permitted a great deal of leeway in their dress. I would find someone on horseback with lots of braiding and then gild the fleur-de-lys, as it were. But doesn't Redoubt have a FIW general vignette?
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the FIW is looking more and more attractive to me ever min.
FIW is a fascinating period to game. It has a little bit of everything that might intrigue a wargamer, and is as colorful as the European theater in its own woodsy way. There are great units on both sides that bring a fun mix of European and Native tactics and clothing.
Lowtardog, I know it might not be entirely accurate, but I know generals were permitted a great deal of leeway in their dress. I would find someone on horseback with lots of braiding and then gild the fleur-de-lys, as it were. But doesn't Redoubt have a FIW general vignette?
I want to avoid Redoubt as I know they are big ;D I have my eye on the Prussian and Russian generals from Foundry as they look nice, I know a little bigger but should fit with the Crusader stuff.
Also saw that Crusader are doing infantry with the coats with turnbacks down and later in the new year Grenadiers etc
This could get out of hand lol
Next question any other suggestions for French milice?
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Foundry Marlburian Dukes & Princes maybe? Lovely poncy stuff, utterly ahistorical but if you can't have a well-dressed French general than why get out of bed in the morning?
You've got me on the militia. I'd use generic French-painted (gray-white coats w/blue cuffs) Marlburians, but my answer to everything is Marlburians. But why not? The militia always gets second rate stuff.
Edit: I'm not going to apologize for going Marlburian! I just grabbed the Funcken and the uniform of 1736 is effectively Marlburian, and the continental updates didn't take effect until the war was begun in Europe, so the colonies would have had to make do with second-rate uniforms, if anything.
So Marlburians forever, damn your eyes! lol
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not to hijake this thread but dose any one have any links to some good refrance imfo on the FIW? I think I might take it up as a new historical project myself.
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Citizen Sade, had exactly this picture on my mind, but sadly not on my PC. Thanks for posting.
Since Lowtardog asked for hooded jackets (capots) I replied to this. According to Osprey and some French resources these jackets were, as said, from old (grey-white) coats. The sleeved waistcoat shown here is part of a soldier's summer dress - simply take off the baggy uniform coat. Besides, the painting isn't accurate in showing silver buttons; they should be gilded as the lace colour is gold, too. Oh my... ;)
Some resources suggest fatigue caps with white 'bags'. It's unlikely to be, but I added them to my French just for fun. Here's a (not very advantageous) pic of some of them, mainly Conquest, one Redoubt Regular in the middle.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/Poliorketes/Tabletop/SJK%20Franzosen/Marines004.jpg)
Ooh now I am at home they look great and the redoubt figure fits in very well
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Hi, for your project have a look at some of the table attached, i hope could help you.
Piero
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207093013170french1.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207093013170french2.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207093013171french3.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207092308350mononghaelaleader.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/S25C-207092308351frenchmilicia.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/Compagnies_franches.jpg
Fantastic links many thanks :-*
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Regarding militiamen, as mentioned above, you could use American militia/minutemen from Foundry's & Perry's AWI ranges as they are wearing somewhat old-fashioned civilian clothes. Almost perfect fit for the FIW. Another one is to pick up all non-uniformed soldiers from Conquest's own range. No one cares if they came originally from a British blister. ;)
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Sounds like a great project! I have one of everything from Conquest painted except the marine troops. Those are languishing in my pile of neglected lead. I need to get at them ASAP!
If you decide to do some of the other side, the Eureka F&I provincials and highlanders in campaign dress match Perry and Conquest very well!
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Those redoubt French Compagne Marine look very nice as do the regulars, do they all match so well with the Conquest ones? as I thought they would be much larger from previous figures I have bought from them?
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Nice project Karl! I have 70 or so of the Redoubt Woodland Indians. Very nice. It's a great era both to paint and to game. Will enjoy watching your progress on this one. Good luck!
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So what rulse sets would people recomend for play the FIW?
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So what rulse sets would people recomend for play the FIW?
What do you want? Historical skirmish, Hollywood-style heroic skirmish or, as far as it's possible in the F&IW, big battle rules?
And, if it's skirmish, do you want lots of figures or just a few? My recommendations, at least, would vary depending on what you're looking for.
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Grrrrrrrrrr >:(
I've just decided to try and finish my Zulu War armies, have promised myself to buy all of Malamute's Zorro range, several regiments of the Perry's ACW, I am still trying to get my "Future Wars" forces sorted, Darkest Africa is a sponge that will never be sated and now you have re-ignited my interest in the FIW :(
I will not get tempted into buying loads more figures, you horrible man!
I do have plenty of forest and some ACW buildings that would do, along with plenty of uniform and history guides and I only recently watched "Last Of The Mohicans" again........ Oh dear lol
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...have promised myself to buy all of Malamute's Zorro range,
:D :D :D
You will live to regret that remark, at the last count the production list stood at 80 or so figures and is steadily rising with suggestions from my good friends here... ;)
I love the FIW period, I bought loads of the Redoubt figures when they were first released, then lost interest when The sculptor changed.
I think this is a very worthwhile project and look forward to seeing it develop. Those Conquest figures are delightful. Go for it Karl :)
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...have promised myself to buy all of Malamute's Zorro range,
:D :D :D
You will live to regret that remark, at the last count the production list stood at 80 or so figures and is steadily rising with suggestions from my good friends here... ;)
Maybe, but I never said how long it would take me to buy them all lol
It's a bit like my Darkest Africa, which is mostly skirmish/small unit scale, in that because I don't need to buy by the regiment or brigade, I tend to buy lots of small orders at regular intervals. Because of that, I don't seem to have collected all that much until I come to check the box of lead. At the last count [Sunday] I had 300 or so DA/Sudan figures left to paint for my "skirmish games". And that's without including the Zulu War stuff.... lol
Speaking of figure suggestions for Zorro, I'll just pop over to the Swashbuckling board.........
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So what rulse sets would people recomend for play the FIW?
"This Very Ground" is a traditional skirmish game by the Iron Ivan crew whom I have never met but also never heard ill spoken of.
Those Rattrap bastards also put out a set as a supplement for that wonky swashbuckling thingy of theirs. Can't remember what it was called. "Among the War Parties" or somesuch. Anyway, the author's a longwinded idiot but the rulebook was pretty good.
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This Very Ground is great for, say 30-50 figures per player. Sharpe Practice is theoretically Napoleonic but has rules for Indians and is great fun for 15-30 figures per player. I have yet to play Among the War Parties, but I love Gloire so I think this must be another winner for 3-15 figures per player (if including the optional squad rules thingie, otherwise I'd say 3-8 figures per player).
Of course if you are insane like me you have to get and use all three.
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Well no one has ever accoused me of being sane so I think all 3 is were I will go! :D Or maby I should see about moding my GW War on the planes and The alamo rule set. Give me an excuase to actualy use the book for once.
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I think there is an F&I mod in the files section of the LotOW Yahoo group. If not, pm me and I'll see if I can dig out the one my pal and I came up with.
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I am doing a similier project and I am going to use this very ground but this free set are good based on the film last of the mohicans daniel day lewis version http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/skarlet/mohicans/mohicans.html
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...have promised myself to buy all of Malamute's Zorro range,
:D :D :D
You will live to regret that remark, at the last count the production list stood at 80 or so figures and is steadily rising with suggestions from my good friends here... ;)
I love the FIW period, I bought loads of the Redoubt figures when they were first released, then lost interest when The sculptor changed.
I think this is a very worthwhile project and look forward to seeing it develop. Those Conquest figures are delightful. Go for it Karl :)
2006/7 was my Meso American period now looks like 2009 will be North American indians of all types ;)
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Nothing wrong with that, I am kind of burnt out on my NWF force for the moment so a little deversion is not a problem for me at all.
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Lowtar,
I'm late here and you seem to have all answers to your questions. So just have to say I 'm very pleased to see a new Fiw project (and a big one !) and eagerly waiting for your first pics !
meow,
Matt
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Still working through them once I get my camera to work I will post pictures,
I have finished 30 militia and 20 indians nest are the 18 Redoubt Compagne Marine which are very nice
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Still working through them once I get my camera to work I will post pictures,
I have finished 30 militia and 20 indians nest are the 18 Redoubt Compagne Marine which are very nice
Good news ! I thought you gave them up for all this 3ECW crazyness ;)
meow,
Matt
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Reading this thread in its entirety is motivating me to get busy on my FIW collection. However, a choice needs to made as to which scale: I have a large 40mm Sash & Sabre collection - at least one of each model produced; and a smaller 25mm collection, complete with a Redoubt-made fort.
As if all of my other projects weren't big enough, LTD......
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So what rulse sets would people recomend for play the FIW?
I use the brother against brother set for skirmish and British grenadier for larger battles
some of my stuff
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g185/blue-willow/french%20indian%20war/100_2419.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g185/blue-willow/french%20indian%20war/100_2420.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g185/blue-willow/french%20indian%20war/100_2421.jpg)
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Nicely done. Thanks for posting those. The markings on the indians - researched, or just your intrepretations of war paint?
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copied from Griffin paintings, how correct his work is ?
cheers
matt
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Played my first game of this very ground a nicve set and as many have stated the mechanisms are great fast and furious but you have to judge when to Volley fire or fire at will.
Played a simple encounter game to warm up 3 units of canadian militia and 2 units of Indians vs 2 units of Rnagers and supporting 2 units of indians.
The canadians put up a good blocking defence but alas the Rangers (in true Spencer Tracey fashion) managed to limp off the table. Combat is deadly as it is always to the death, took us by surprise at bit but you certainly get a result in 3 hours gaming.
I will try and get my camera up and running for some pics.
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intersting, did you get any pic's?
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Some neat painting
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intersting, did you get any pic's?
going to have to pose some as camera not working atm
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darn, i was looking for some insperation for my French militia and the like.
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hey dose redoute miniatures have a US distributer?
I have SYW/FIW has taken a hold of me big time, its what I think, live and breath lol.
i already have at lest one of all the conquest min's French Compagne Marine and English rangers. Still waiting on my next pay day to get the Natives. BUt after them, I want to get tons of regulers becuase lets face it, who dosnt like seeing tight blocks of men in red, blue, white, green what have you being pushed around the table. Well maby my girl freand but what dose she know.
But Any ways. I was also wondering how the redoubt, crusader, and conquest mins staked up aginst each other.
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I played a F&IW game last weekend, and still have the table set up... I'll try to shoot some pics this weekend and post them. Think I've got pretty well all the Redoubt Indians...
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sweet
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Conquest match up seemlessly with Perry, Eureka and OG. Redoubt, Crusader, Front Rank, and Blue Moon are in a larger category in my eyes. I would mix them on the table, but not within units.
Eureka has provincials and highlanders in campaign dress in their catalogue. I have both and they are very good. The provincials can also be used as the 60th Royal American Regiment as they had no lace on their uniforms. One of these days I will get around to photographing mine!
Eric at Conquest is supposed to be working on regulars also. I know he fell behind schedule because his mold maker had some health problems, but Age of Glory had some of his new releases at Cold Wars, so I think he is getting back on track. I saw the Crusader Brit and French regulars at Cold Wars and they are well sculpted, but a bit static for skirmish games.
I think your best bet right now for more active regulars is Front Rank http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp (http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp). They have a new US distributor, but with the current exchange rate I believe you save a few bucks by ordering direct.
Aaron
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Conquest match up seemlessly with Perry, Eureka and OG. Redoubt, Crusader, Front Rank, and Blue Moon are in a larger category in my eyes. I would mix them on the table, but not within units.
Eureka has provincials and highlanders in campaign dress in their catalogue. I have both and they are very good. The provincials can also be used as the 60th Royal American Regiment as they had no lace on their uniforms. One of these days I will get around to photographing mine!
Eric at Conquest is supposed to be working on regulars also. I know he fell behind schedule because his mold maker had some health problems, but Age of Glory had some of his new releases at Cold Wars, so I think he is getting back on track. I saw the Crusader Brit and French regulars at Cold Wars and they are well sculpted, but a bit static for skirmish games.
I think your best bet right now for more active regulars is Front Rank http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp (http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp). They have a new US distributor, but with the current exchange rate I believe you save a few bucks by ordering direct.
Aaron
I agree I like the redoubt stuff but having done units for AWI and selling them on I couldnt go and paint the same figures again :? I did cave in and buy the redoubt Compagnes Marine which are lovely but sadly tower over the Perry, COnquest and Brigade indians and others.
I dont mind the Crusader figures being static as they in this Very ground will be formed units so marching for me is better than a firing line especially for those ambushes straight out of Last of the Mohicans :D
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The Crusader ones are perfect for ambushing. :D