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Miniatures Adventure => The Great War => Topic started by: Helen on November 25, 2008, 02:40:41 AM

Title: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Helen on November 25, 2008, 02:40:41 AM
Hi Folks,

At long last I finished the last mountain gun and crew for my battery. I was awaiting the Sikh command pack so I could have a command stand, so to speak. Please see photos below. I hope you like them.

The other three guns and crew were painted by Leroy some years ago. I've tried to match his style plus adding my own. The mules are painted by me also. The handlers are to be repainted as they were done about year ago and they are very sad looking.

All guns and figures by Brigade Games.

The 22nd Derajat Pack Battery received their new 2.75 in mountain guns in Africa on the 28th August 1917. In early March 1918 they received the new 3.7 in and had to return two 2.75 in back to depot. They are also referred as 10 pounders. These little cuties were deployed in the Middle-East, Salonkia an including two in the Russian Civil War which saw service in Archangel.

Here is the journey of Plynkes's saga of his mountain gun:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=2742.0

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/HelensIndianMountainBattery001.jpg)
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/HelensIndianMountainBattery002.jpg)
(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/HelenBachaus/HelensIndianMountainBattery003.jpg)
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Stecal on November 25, 2008, 04:08:36 AM
Wonderful.  I am so jealous.

What next?  The entire pack trains for all 4 guns....
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: gamer Mac on November 25, 2008, 08:26:42 AM
Stunning as usual.
You put us all to shame with your quality and quantity.
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: aircav on November 25, 2008, 08:52:45 AM
They look fantastic Helen  :D :-* :D :-*


Keith  :D
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Remington on November 25, 2008, 09:31:08 AM
Great work and grand inspiration for those of us that have a bunch of British unpainted, somewhere in a box.  :D
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: argsilverson on November 25, 2008, 09:56:54 AM
As always very nice indeed.

Wonderful.  I am so jealous.

What next?  The entire pack trains for all 4 guns....

same question here
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: carlos marighela on November 25, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
Nice work. Now you'll be needing some more for that Salonika project.

http://net.lib.byu.edu/estu/wwi/memoir/Salonica/images/sal05.jpg

http://net.lib.byu.edu/estu/wwi/memoir/Salonica/salonTC.htm#TC
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Helen on November 25, 2008, 10:05:45 PM
Hi Guys,

Thanks for your lovely comments.

There will be no pack trains! As lovely as they would look on the table I'm only using the mules with ammo containers as logistical counters.

The battery is made up of two gun sections. Each mule will be allocated a set number of rounds an once the ammo is expended the mule disappears until the section or battery is resupplied.

Carlos, the Salonika project is progressing slowly as I paint up smaller units for this an other theatres.

Until the remainder of the foreign forces for Salonkia are designed this will be a very slow project.
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Plynkes on November 25, 2008, 10:24:58 PM
If one is doing Salonika, one simply must have some cyclists. What better way is there to call in for tea with old John Bulgar across the valley?  :)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/30wo945.jpg)
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: twrchtrwyth on November 26, 2008, 01:02:55 AM
Nice. I really like the way the armour fits over the wheels on that particular gun. 8)
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Helen on November 26, 2008, 09:20:07 PM
If one is doing Salonika, one simply must have some cyclists. What better way is there to call in for tea with old John Bulgar across the valley?  :)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/30wo945.jpg)

Hi Dylan,

The great thing about Salonkia is the array of uniforms on figures that are currently available from certain manufacturers. For example, we have Brigade Games that provide us with British in helmet and topis. German troops, Turks, Austrians, French troops, Indian troops and Aussies that would fit the bill also. Russians, and with a few conversions other figures that would fit the bill too.

Then you can look at other manufacturers an for me my favourite will be the conversions I'm planning for German Ulans, and others German units with a neck protector, this includes the feldmutze which had one too.

Anyway this project is a long way from finishing and will be a joy to do as I concentrate on one unit at a time.

Helen
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Lowtardog on November 26, 2008, 09:24:33 PM
Wow soon will will have to call you Woolwich Helen, these are lovely :-*
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Helen on November 26, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
Wow soon will will have to call you Woolwich Helen, these are lovely :-*

If I remember rightly Carl, you must be a car salesperson with the large number of cars you have in your collection :D
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: argsilverson on November 26, 2008, 11:02:23 PM
If one is doing Salonika, one simply must have some cyclists. What better way is there to call in for tea with old John Bulgar across the valley?  :)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/30wo945.jpg)

Hi Dylan,

The great thing about Salonkia is the array of uniforms on figures that are currently available from certain manufacturers. For example, we have Brigade Games that provide us with British in helmet and topis. German troops, Turks, Austrians, French troops, Indian troops and Aussies that would fit the bill also. Russians, and with a few conversions other figures that would fit the bill too.

Then you can look at other manufacturers an for me my favourite will be the conversions I'm planning for German Ulans, and others German units with a neck protector, this includes the feldmutze which had one too.

Anyway this project is a long way from finishing and will be a joy to do as I concentrate on one unit at a time.

Helen

Add also: serbians and greeks [eben Cretan gendarmes) from Tiger Miniatures. Russians in adrian helmet by brigade (alas no epaulettes). So one might have a full representation of all armies involved.

And for opposition: Bulgarians from Tiger miniatures and Austrohungarians from Renegade and the newcomer Scarab miniatures.

Yes I would like to see some cyclists, too!!!! plus some british and American nurses etc. Lots served there!
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: archangel1 on November 26, 2008, 11:51:34 PM
Helen, you wouldn't happen to have any pics of the real BL 2.75'', would you? I've got the whole packtrain set and, since I'd like to do it up in a diorama, I could use some detail shots.  Just wish the mules weren't in identical poses.
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Helen on November 26, 2008, 11:53:47 PM
Helen, you wouldn't happen to have any pics of the real BL 2.75'', would you? I've got the whole packtrain set and, since I'd like to do it up in a diorama, I could use some detail shots.  Just wish the mules weren't in identical poses.

I'll see what I can dig up 8)
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Plynkes on November 27, 2008, 12:32:10 AM
Got this one from my thread that Helen linked to in her first post:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/Plynkes/M-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: archangel1 on November 27, 2008, 03:45:19 AM
Saw that one, but I need to know more about any handwheels or sights that may be hidden behind that shield.
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: Helen on November 28, 2008, 01:35:30 AM
Here is the handbook for the 2.95 inch model 1912:
http://www.archive.org/stream/handbookof295inc00unitrich

I hope this may assist you in some small way.

Helen
Title: Re: 22nd Derajat Pack Battery
Post by: archangel1 on November 28, 2008, 06:34:51 AM
Thanks, Helen.  Although not quite the same gun, it at least gives me some ideas to work with.  I was also interested to see the different tail on the mules in the handbook.  I wasn't sure about those on the minis.  Apparently, mules are quite varied in appearance, swinging between donkey-like and horse-like.  They can also range from about 3' in height to over 17 hands! Also discovered that a male donkey is known as a 'jack', male mules are 'johns' and females are 'mollies'!