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Miniatures Adventure => Post-Apocalyptic Tales => Topic started by: gimzod on January 29, 2016, 12:27:19 PM
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Well, at least we found out where the wargames factory plastic survivors have gone.
http://www.warlordgames.com/announcement-project-z-zombie-skirmish-game/
Know not many people will be after another zombie game, but the bikers and spec ops may be of interest.
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Yeah I just saw this as well, i'm actually really looking forward to the new models.
As far as I am aware, these are the first pics (although only a couple) of the bikers and military guys beyond a couple of sprue shots? Is that right or can someone point me in the direction of further info?
Cheers
Pete
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Those are the first pictures of assembled and painted figures. I hope to see more when I visit Warlord next week (I rather like this job!)
Of course, I shall now have to dig up my WG Zombies and start assembling my three boxes of male and female survivors...
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Given that Warlord often sells individual sprues, hopefully this means we'll soon be able to stock back up on the survivor weapons sprues without having to buy the whole kit!
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Looks like new male zombies in the picture too.
Looking forward to learning more, apprehensive about the price tag...
~Eric
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I have both survivors sets and they are nice, so I'm looking forward to more figures in that series.
I have enough Z games though, so I'll probably skip the rules.
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It's funny, when I started stocking the zombie apoc plastics from WF, I immediately started thinking about making a game to tie in with them (just daydreaming), so I see Warlord couldn't resist with the even bigger temptation having them as distributors. I'd love to see more of those bikers. As always when I see projects like this, I always hope there's something to come out of it I can add to the Believable Female Miniatures :D Plastic girl bikers.....yes yes yes
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Managed to take exclusive sprue pictures of the Biker Gang last year at Salute. The sprue includes parts to make female riders/ passengers.
More of the sprues here http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=78150.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=78150.0)
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Looks like new male zombies in the picture too.
Looking forward to learning more, apprehensive about the price tag...
~Eric
Also thinking those are new. Looking way better than the older Wargames Factory ones. Hoping same prices as from Wargames Factory, their historicals are currently sold by Warlord Games at about the same price. So fingers crossed.
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In the moment I think warlord is talking about a lot of new things, but nothing is really coming. I think the plastic Landsknechte, the Pike&Shot-stuff from Malta, the new Dr. Who stuff, several books for Hail Cesar, Pike&shot, Black Powder. Cancelled stuff like Bolt Action WW1. So, in the moment it would be better when warlord release the old announced stuff....
And like readmao said these will be only another set of zombierules...
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I have to disagree there, I don't know how well the sales go for P&S but it clearly isn't doing a Bolt Action. I see more from Blackpowder and Hail Ceaser then I do for P&S. Dr Who IS coming, just taking them a while. Presumably they want top-notch sculpts or are having licencing difficulties, think of all the hoops Prodos had to jump through to get Fox to give them the ok. As for Bolt Action WW1...eh it wouldn't have done well IMO. WW1 is a difficult one since you either pull a Battlefront Late war (ALL THE TOYS) or you do it accurately but get a very samey kind of feel for a while,
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Did anyone see the new sprues they announced? Spec Ops Modern Military :D
http://wargamesillustrated.co.uk/project-z-spec-ops-modern-military/
(http://i0.wp.com/wargamesillustrated.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Scan-55.jpeg)
(http://i1.wp.com/wargamesillustrated.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/DJF1414-e1454426580838.png)
Useful for a lot of scenarios!
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I'm liking the look of a lot of these figures.
My big hope is that they're more flexible than the survivor sprues, where certain arms only fit onto certain bodies. The spec ops look fairly similar in body mass, so fingers crossed. I also hope they have heads that can be made to look up and down, rather than just left and right.
I also want word peace and humanity to develop warp drive within my lifetime, but decent plastic sprues will do for a start ;D
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Very nice commandos. I really like how realistic the weapons look. Other manufacturers often make the barrels too big.
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I also hope they have heads that can be made to look up and down, rather than just left and right.
The photo of the other side of the sprue shows the necks as flat bottomed like the survivors. Still it certainly looks worth picking up.
-A
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Having put both "Soviet block" and "NATO" types of weapons is a very nice touch… looks like they’ll be very useful models indeed :D
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I am down to pick up at least on box.
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These are also the old sprue shots apparently. Warlord have asked WGF to rework the sprue to have more bodies and legs per sprue. No shots of the new layout yet that I've seen.
~Eric
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You know, as a huge zombie fanatic I still haven't picked up a tabletop miniature zombiegame (last night on earth doesn't count. It's a pure boardgame)
I just haven't found the right one yet and this might be it.
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Apparently, the boxed set is out at Salute and will have a £30 - 35 RRP, with easy play rules and plenty of sprues.
Plus, if traders sign up for a 'Trader Bundle', they get some of the Spec Ops and Bikers earlier than the final boxed sets.
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Apparently, the boxed set is out at Salute and will have a £30 - 35 RRP, with easy play rules and plenty of sprues.
Plus, if traders sign up for a 'Trader Bundle', they get some of the Spec Ops and Bikers earlier than the final boxed sets.
That is a bloody good deal and annihilates Mantics kickstarter.
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That is a bloody good deal and annihilates Mantics kickstarter.
Not sure why it would annilhate the Mantic and Skybound Kickstarter as it has already been launched and looks to be quite succesful. They won't deliver the goods before the end of the year I think but will already gathered the needed funds well in advance of Salute so pledgers will probably not buy the Warlord game. But £30.00 for the Warlord Games game sounds interesting! ;D
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I am more down with the Warlord version than the Mantic, they dropped the ball really with those horrible minis.
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I think I'm much more interested in this game than the Mantic game. I have far too many minis in this genre already.
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I was very tempted by the Mantic Walking Dead Kickstarter, but the news that Warlord was coming out with this new game made me hold off. I'd much rather have multi-part kits to put together!
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UPDATE: If you are at Salute and spend £100 at Warlord, you get the boxed game, with 43 zombies, a Survivor and Biker Gang sprue, the rules and the special dice PLUS one set of each figure release there will ever be in your hand on the day, which includes the re-designed ones.
Which is nice...
New sprue shots on the WI site soon!
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It does look a bit tempting. My only and very major worry is that it is wargames factory. I have previously spend money on their zombies, vikings and skeletons. And after that decided that they have had enough of my money and I have most certainly had enough of the plastic blobs they call miniatures.
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Dr Zombie, I don't have any of the old male zombies but do have some of the new survivors which I quite like. The impression I get from various people is that their miniatures have improved massively since then.
Thanks for the update Grimjack. Looking forward to seeing the new pics.
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Wargame Factory's male zombies are small and pretty awful looking. Their work has improved enormously - the female zombies set they released don't even look like they were made by the same company as the males. (I dearly wish they'll take this opportunity to remake the men.)
I'm in "wait and see" mode on this, though the bikers are tempting.
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UPDATE: If you are at Salute and spend £100 at Warlord, you get the boxed game, with 43 zombies, a Survivor and Biker Gang sprue, the rules and the special dice PLUS one set of each figure release there will ever be in your hand on the day, which includes the re-designed ones.
Which is nice...
New sprue shots on the WI site soon!
Dang, I hope they offer those of us without a chance to go to Salute a similar deal. I know the same deal is too much to expect but I would like to see what they could come up with.
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If anyone is going to Salute, I would be SUPER happy if you could pick this up for me, I can prepay.
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The special forces looks like a great starting point for stalkers. I really hope the arms are less of a hassle than their indian and survivor kits.
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I imagine wargames factory will re sculpt the male zombies , sine it was their first kit and my god does it show! Remember, they do the sculpting/casting for malifuax and dreamforge, so they know their stuff now.
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More previews of the new sprues:
http://wargamesillustrated.co.uk/an-exclusive-look-at-project-z/
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Oh, I think I'll go this way over the Mantic game....
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I like!
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Absolutely will buy this, Warlord know their stuff and this is a winner...don't care about the bikers but the modern troops look amazing. Also Wargames Illustrated have done an online review and the male zombies look so much better. I hope that the rules are simple..just warp drive and world peace to tick off the list now?
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"Plus you may have seen the old plastic Male Zombies before but you haven;t seen them looking this good! Yes, the sprue has been re-designed to create more ‘attractive’ zombies, allowing you to field a more realistic horde of shambling undead."
Told ya! ;D
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I bought the male Z's..the females though are very very good
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I have a couple of packs of the old male zombies, and they are pretty bad. Replacements were long overdue.
I'll definitely be picking up some of those military and biker sprues, probably the rules as well. Hopefully the deal they're doing at Salute will be available at other shows during the year ???
It was mentioned over on the Mantic Walking Dead thread, but the playtest rules are available from Mantic - link (https://www.manticdigital.com/product/the-walking-dead-all-out-war-playtest-rules/)
For some reason you have to get them through their shop (£0.00), so you'll need an account. I'll grab them at some point for a read, as the overview (https://manticblog.com/2016/02/08/15209/) of them looked quite interesting.
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The pre-order is now live on Warlord's site:
http://store.warlordgames.com/products/the-complete-zombie
For the price of £110 you get:
Project Z - The Zombie Miniatures Game
Includes 23 Zombies, 10 Male Survivors, 6 Biker Gangers (inc. 2 motorbikes) plus rules, dice, cards and counters
Zombie Horde Expansion Set
Contains 23 Zombies - every one completely individual. Don't miss Hospital Patient zombie, Roadkill zombie and Baywatch zombie!
Male Survivors Expansion Set
Contains 10 male survivors and includes a weapons options sprue for even more variety.
Biker Gang Expansion Set
Contains parts to make 6 gangers including 2 bikes plus Gang Leader model with pillion rider (and lots of weapon options!)
Female Survivors Expansion Set
Contains 10 female survivors plus the weapons options sprue for more variety. Our favourite is Bazooka Big Momma!
Special Operations Team Expansion Set
Contains 8 Spec Ops soldiers with a fantastic range of heads, weapons and gear.
Feral Dogs (Metal) FREE!
NB. Pre-Order only available until 11th March.
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I already told the wife to budget this for next payday!
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Hey Styx.. I'm in too!
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Hello,
is there any place where one can read a little more about the rules? The Warlord Website doesn't provide much information or maybe i'm just to blind to see it.
Thanks.
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I like the fact they remastered the sprues, the zombies look WAY better like the hospital gown and the cop for example and they merged the male and female zombie sets together.
Oddly, the Male and Female survivor sets were not merged...even the Biker gang is mixed genders and appears SpecOps does not recruit female soldiers. lol
I have the city table from Games and Gears and a fair amount of city related scenery and cars that I was building up for Supersystem, now I got another excuse to start on scenery. I wanted a few more items to round out the city. Plus from the other games I have we can pretty much make anything from an airport, woodlands, snowed in wooded areas, farm or anything else really.
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is there any place where one can read a little more about the rules? The Warlord Website doesn't provide much information or maybe i'm just to blind to see it.
Me too... Will this be BA style activation thingy? That might actually shine in a Zombie setting.
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Me too... Will this be BA style activation thingy? That might actually shine in a Zombie setting.
I don't think it will use the BA style of activation, no real indication of that. I did notice that the "dice" in the game are unique and look like special use dice for the game with the symbols on it. Another thing that caught my eye is that it stated 1-3 players. So there must be a solo play option and 1-3 I wonder could mean 2 human factions and a zombie controller or could it be all three humans with a mechanic for zombies...I am sure a game play example will be out soon.
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I'd really like to see a rule sample like mantid did....
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It seems i am not alone i my desire for a rules preview.
To be honest i can't really understand the excitement then. Half of the kits were already previously released. Nobody knows anything about the rules. And Warlord wants a whopping 110 pounds for the pre-order. I will definitely get the rules or probably the starter set but the all-in pre-order is not for me.
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I'm not sure if the BA activation will be ideal for zombies. Seems whenever we play BA there is always a whole bunch of pulls where one army gets to go many times before the other. Makes sense in a fog of war/battlefield command sort of thing but Z's should always be slow right up until they try and snatch a bite!
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If the Zombies only had one or two dice then they couldn't go more than once per turn, but you would never know when.
Akula's card-driven approach with 'ARSE' does pretty much just that, no?
Either way, I'm just muddying the waters with speculation as I don't play enough of either... o_o
I'm interested in bits of this for conversion fodder and for the bikes!
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You water mudder you!
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It seems i am not alone i my desire for a rules preview.
To be honest i can't really understand the excitement then. Half of the kits were already previously released. Nobody knows anything about the rules. And Warlord wants a whopping 110 pounds for the pre-order. I will definitely get the rules or probably the starter set but the all-in pre-order is not for me.
True, but the models were also remastered. I loved what WF did but I felt they could have done somewhat better, based on what I am seeing in the pics it looks like things was.
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I'll wait until the kits are on sale individually. I have most of them already and only want the Spec Ops & Biker sets.
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Rick posted on the Warlord forums that they are working on a video, perhaps even a battle report. They are also going to have a demo at Salute.
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For me I like the concept and some of the models but the lack of rules previews and the cost is putting me off.
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I like this:
(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/biker-boss-600x408.jpg)
I bet it will look good painted like:
(http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg134/CptJake_Minis/Rocker_zpsga4ozzny.jpg)
;)
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That may be an odd question, but do someone knows if, in the rules, Zombies are based individually or in groups?
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When I Remember it right from a short view in the Rules at the Tactica the zombies are individual based.
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Just to let you guys know, we (Grekwood Miniatures) are also taking pre-orders for Project Z. We have all the items individually and have even knocked a little extra off.
http://www.grekwoodminiatures.co.uk/ProjectZ.php
There is currently limited amounts available of each item due to how much I can currently buy in.
Cheers
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Just to let you guys know, we (Grekwood Miniatures) are also taking pre-orders for Project Z. We have all the items individually and have even knocked a little extra off.
http://www.grekwoodminiatures.co.uk/ProjectZ.php
There is currently limited amounts available of each item due to how much I can currently buy in.
Cheers
How much to post to Amsterdam? :D
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I went for the whole package this past weekend....figure they would be great for not only Z, but Supersystem and TNT
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How much to post to Amsterdam? :D
Too Bo Coo - It depends on what items you would like to get since it's all based on weight. If you want to send me an email grekwoodminis@btinternet.com I can calculate it for you. I'm waiting to hear about the weight of the game itself before I can provide a postage estimate, but the other boxes should be easy enough to calculate.
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In Wayland they have the game box on preorder (for 30 pounds) but not the expansions. Very curious about the final prices of the extra packs. Wargames factoy boxes were really cheap but seens that warlord would be expensier (around more than double for survivors).
If pre order pack is 110 pounds for core + 5 expansions. Core is 30p so 80/5 is 16 pounds per box... (of 10 survivors, when wargames factory boxes had 30 por around 22 pounds I believe).
Survivors boxes now have an extra waepon sprue per survivor sprue (instead of one weapon sprue per 3 survivors sprues) but not really apeling if I can find some of the old boxes.
On the other hand core and bikers box (having the leader mini) would be on my list to buy for sure.
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The survivor boxes dont look like any big bargain if you already have the earlier ones....which I do :D
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Very curious about the final prices of the extra packs.
I have them all on the Grek Minis Website. I've actually taken extra off of everything compared to the RRP - a bit of a pre-order discount :)
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I have them all on the Grek Minis Website. I've actually taken extra off of everything compared to the RRP - a bit of a pre-order discount :)
Are those official prices? or an stimation based on the whole pack?
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They are official, well, kind of. The prices on my website are official for what I am selling them for.
However, the RRP I was provided by Warlord, suggests that the Zombie Horde, Male Survivors, Female Survivors, and the Special Ops guys, should all be £15 per box. The Bikers RRP per box should be £25.00, and the game itself should be £30.
I just decided to knock a little extra off :)
The bundle deal then technically (on Warlord) saves you £5 (I think.. once it's all added up). The deal on mine saves you £15.01, but postage is on top of that which "may" bring it up closer to what Warlord are selling (depending on whether someone is in the UK, Europe or other since postage is different depending where people are).
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25 pounds for 3 bikes and 4 models on foot?
Contains enough parts to make 6 gangers including 2 bikes plus this stunning Gang Leader model with pillion rider (and lots of weapon options!). Also includes game cards unique to this expansion set.
Bikers box just fell out from my buying list...
Seens like survivors boxes pack 2 sprues (models + extra weapons) and the biker also pack 2 sprue (base bikers + smaller sprue with leader). Any real reason for warlord to charge 10 more pound per box other than "cool-model-sure-they-pay-for-them"?
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25 pounds for 3 bikes and 4 models on foot?
Bikers box just fell out from my buying list...
Seens like survivors boxes pack 2 sprues (models + extra weapons) and the biker also pack 2 sprue (base bikers + smaller sprue with leader). Any real reason to charge 10 more pound per box other than "cool-model-sure-they-pay-for-them"?
I have no clue why they are priced like that compared to the others. I just have to price them against what I can buy them in for (and what Warlord have said the RRP is).
The only justification I can think of is that the bikes themselves are pretty large models, so they are the equivalent (in plastic) to a few figures each (so assuming each bike is at least 3 figures worth (could be more), you're getting 9 figures in 3 bikes). Apart from that, I'm all out of ideas. I'll have to wait until the sprue's are in my hand to really have a look.
It's technically better value for money to buy the game itself since you get 2 bikes and 4 biker foot men. You just don't get the leader biker and the extra weapons (I could be wrong on the weapons). Plus you get the rules and a bunch of other figures and dice.
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Nice, 1/3 models, same Price. *Irony off*
(Well technically it's 1/2 of the sprues, but what do I want with the leftover parts from that weapons sprue. 3:1 survivor to weapon sprue ratio from WGF was just perfect. Still many left over bits.)
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When you look at the bikes it becomes even worse. Warlord includes one bike sprue and the new boss sprue at a higher price, while WGF planned three bike sprues for the same price as their other boxes...
Edit: Spec Ops even seems to include only one sprue.
What also pisses me off is, that you can only get the male Zombies with the female ones together. Already got 30. Clone city incoming...
So no more Budget gaming from WGF I guess.
Might as well just get everything in metal...
I really dislike how the new big ones start to exploit everything and transform my favorite stuff into
this boutique **** for the crowds via hype and marketing.
Sorry, I am a bit angry.
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I have no clue why they are priced like that compared to the others. I just have to price them against what I can buy them in for (and what Warlord have said the RRP is).
The only justification I can think of is that the bikes themselves are pretty large models, so they are the equivalent (in plastic) to a few figures each (so assuming each bike is at least 3 figures worth (could be more), you're getting 9 figures in 3 bikes). Apart from that, I'm all out of ideas. I'll have to wait until the sprue's are in my hand to really have a look.
It's technically better value for money to buy the game itself since you get 2 bikes and 4 biker foot men. You just don't get the leader biker and the extra weapons (I could be wrong on the weapons). Plus you get the rules and a bunch of other figures and dice.
But make very little sense when the zombie box is 15p for 23 miniatures.
It should be more logical that survivors, spec ops and biker at same price and the zombie horde at higher one. But why then pay 25 pounds for 23 zombies when you can have the game box for 30pounds?
Sad, if fianlly these are the price, probably drop even the core box. Not really liked to be taken for a fool.
Obviously no offense about your web, it is a critic to Warlord RRP
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Nice, 1/3 models, same Price. *Irony off*
(Well technically it's 1/2 of the sprues, but what do I want with the leftover parts from that weapons sprue. 3:1 survivor to weapon sprue ratio from WGF was just perfect. Still many left over bits.)
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When you look at the bikes it becomes even worse. Warlord includes one bike sprue and the new boss sprue at a higher price, while WGF planned three bike sprues for the same price as their other boxes...
Edit: Spec Ops even seems to include only one sprue.
What also pisses me off is, that you can only get the male Zombies with the female ones together. Already got 30. Clone city incoming...
So no more Budget gaming from WGF I guess.
Might as well just get everything in metal...
I really dislike how the new big ones start to exploit everything and transform my favorite stuff into
this boutique **** for the crowds via hype and marketing.
Sorry, I am a bit angry.
I agree 100%. Once Warlord bought WF, I knew WF's days as a reasonably priced alternative was over. This is even worse than I thought. It's like the old GW model, less of the same models at a higher pricepoint....
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Glad I already have the male and female Z's. Survivor types are all over the place and I was never really interested in them! What a shame that they're going the route of "The Company That Shall Remain Nameless"! And for me to try a new rule set at this point...It better be dammed interesting!
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I have all the WGF sets (including 2 sets of the male zombies :'().
I actually remember wondering how I was going to make all the figures sufficiently different, as there were so many. Maybe Warlord are just thinking about the poor gamers, and saving them having to worry about that problem lol
But, yeah, that's a serious price hike. Not even sure about the basic game anymore, as I don't need the figures. If reviews of the rules are positive then I may be persuaded.
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IIf pre order pack is 110 pounds for core + 5 expansions. Core is 30p so 80/5 is 16 pounds per box... (of 10 survivors, when wargames factory boxes had 30 por around 22 pounds I believe).
The lack of information is beginning to annoy me.
Rules sample?
How much are the packs separately? What's the savng on the pre-order? How many feral dogs do you get??
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I admit the prices aren't what I expected after dealing with the Wargames Factory products, but if I was to drop the prices to what I think they should be, I would probably be making a loss, which defeats the point of stocking them. Best I could do was drop the price a little.
I guess they have to get their money back for re-packaging/re-branding. They are still great figures though, and the price probably can't be beat compared to metal figures.
How much are the packs separately? What's the savng on the pre-order? How many feral dogs do you get??
Wachaza - I know this wasn't aimed at me, but the prices are on my website for individual boxes. I've taken a little off, but RRP should be £15 each, and £25 for the Bikers.
As for rules and Ferrel dogs, no idea on any of that! I don't know if I'll receive any ferrel dogs with my bulk order, or whether that's just a Warlord free-bee for them.
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Wachaza - I know this wasn't aimed at me, but the prices are on my website for individual boxes. I've taken a little off, but RRP should be £15 each, and £25 for the Bikers.
I know you've got prices up, but it'd just be nice if Warlord actually told us officially. In comparison with Mantic's media blitzkrieg the Warlord release seems a bit half bothered in terms of organisation and communication.
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To be fair, Mantic NEEDED a media Blitzkrieg because they were running a Kickstarter. Warlord has a pre-order bundle without a lot of fanfare (though they are putting out a couple articles a week in their newsletters about this).
They have been releasing new plastic Bolt Action vehicles as 'platoon packs' a few weeks before showing prices for individual vehicles, and offering bundle deals for other lines before parsing it out for individual SKU sales. Seems they are following an established pattern.
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Warlord has the rule PDF free for a limited time: http://us-store.warlordgames.com/products/project-z-free-rules-pdf
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In addition to the Free rules PDF, there is also a game play video. Haven't watched it yet myself but am going to check it out shortly.
Link to Project Z rules PDF and game play video. (http://www.warlordgames.com/project-z-complete-offer-one-week-left/?utm_source=Warlord+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6100557f74-Warlord_Games_Newsletter_Fri_5_March_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b7e928b4ed-6100557f74-132748653&mc_cid=6100557f74&mc_eid=b83563a404)
Haven't read through the PDF yet so not sure what I will think of the rules themselves, but I think it's cool they are putting them out there for free.
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Read the rules and watched the video, pretty much a straight up game really. In an odd way I like the jumping right into the game with the cards which I never thought I would be a fan of, but the idea of just using what you have armed with X is nice.
The mechanics seem simple but has some good flow and despite the biker gang getting lucky, I think the balance is there. Excited to get my copy soon.