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Title: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 11, 2016, 08:34:56 PM
"Whereas by the Emergency Powers Act 1920, it is enacted that if it appears to Us that there have occurred, or are about to occur, events of such a nature as to be calculated, by interfering with the supply and distribution of food, water, fuel, or light, or with the means of locomotion, to deprive the community or any substantial portion of the community, of the essentials of life, We may, by Proclamation, declare that a state of emergency exists: And whereas the present immediate threat of cessation of work in Coal Mines does, in Our opinion, constitute a state of emergency within the meaning of the said Act: Now, therefore, in pursuance of the said Act, We do, by and with the advice of Our Privy Council, hereby declare that a state of emergency exists."

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28mm 'State of Emergency' Range
or Britain in the Winter of '79

STOP PRESS: I am ridiculously proud (and rather excited) to announce that Mike Bravo Miniatures (http://www.mikebravominiatures.com/) is open for business.   Our first releases are in production and therefore available for pre-order.  

Webshop here: Mike Bravo Miniatures Web Store (http://mike-bravo-miniatures.myshopify.com/).

Available are:

Pre-order status whilst waiting for stock to come online, which should be within 2 weeks.  I'm busily knocked up labels and readying envelopes for the first intrepid few (very much appreciated, you know who you are!)

Right, back to the purpose of this thread.  Our first main range is the 28mm 'State of Emergency' line, initially for figures suitable for Winter of '79 type games, starting with figures inspired from events in Northern Ireland.

These will tie in nicely with some new rules that have become available, 'WINTER OF ’79 – LIVING ON THE FRONT LINE' by Mark Hannam, Matthew Sparkes & Mike Bradford and released by Caliver/Partizan Press.  See here (http://www.caliverbooks.com/Partizan%20Press/partizan_79.shtml).


So without further ado:

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1120/7370/products/IMG_9571_1024x1024.JPG?v=1455065694)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1120/7370/products/IMG_9573_1024x1024.JPG?v=1455066046)

Following a little behind these will be:

Thereafter plans are afoot for further Army figures with Sterlings and Brownings, head variants (eg helmets, fusiliers, Scots), variants without flak vests, dog handler, medic, drivers and more.  Also RUC/mainland police, and more generic civilians and plain clothed types.

(Much depends on how well the initial releases go, what other manufacturers may decide to do, what requests and ideas come in, etc etc.)

Better photos (forgot the inkwash, couldn't find my tripod, it was 3am, yadda yadda yadda) and painted examples and comparisons vs other manufacturers will follow as soon as I can.

Cheers
Dan
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: carlos marighela on February 11, 2016, 09:42:30 PM
Nice. I'm up for a pack of each.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: Earther on February 11, 2016, 09:43:11 PM
Luurvely!  :D
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: Harry von Fleischmann on February 11, 2016, 10:04:28 PM
Don't start me talking, I could talk all night. I was staring down my sights onto the Severn Bridge from the sangar and my mind was sleep walking. Every night Taff would blow the central span and every day we'd repair it, ready for The Big Push into Wales. Their 105s were zeroed in on the approach ramp and ours were zeroed on the bunkers where they had their Charlie Gs; they'd gone deep though, all that rugby put hairs on their chests and no one was digging Taff out once he'd dug in. Better this than the Powys front though, we'd heard stories and that was eneough.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: orm1 on February 11, 2016, 11:10:37 PM
Very nice are these Robi Baker sculpts? Can't wait to see the rest of the range especially police and civilians.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: orm1 on February 11, 2016, 11:23:53 PM
Dan I've just seen on the thread they are Robi Baker's lovely sculpts I'm a big fan of his full of character. What happened to your broken greens? Is that due to casting process I'm half way down the road to having a set of minis sculpted so interested in process any advice would be appreciated
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 12, 2016, 05:16:40 AM
Orm, I'll drop you a note over the weekend when I have more time but yes, that's how they came back from the initial mould making process.  Essentially (in my non expert, non scientific way) they can break under the pressure of the moulding process - on these ones, pretty much any part that was joined to another part came away.  On the bright side, it's interesting to see how the sculptors do their thing and it makes it easier to re-purpose the green into another figure!

On topic, lots of new posts recently on the W79 blog: http://winterof79.blogspot.co.uk/ 

The latest Wargames Illustrated has a piece on W79 and a useful one on Cold War scenery: http://wargamesillustrated.co.uk/shop/wi340-february-2016/  Also some good bits and bobs for W79 on its Companion Piece pages: http://wargamesillustrated.co.uk/winter-of-79-companion-pieces-extra-ideas-on-ways-into-a-games-setting/
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: monkeylite on February 13, 2016, 11:56:24 AM
I ordered Living on the Front Line yesterday lunch time, and it just arrived. That's bloody quick.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: tradgardmastre on February 13, 2016, 03:50:46 PM
I ordered mine yesterday too and it has arrived. What do you think of it?
I have had a quick glance- nicely produced and very interesting.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: monkeylite on February 16, 2016, 09:58:34 AM
I ordered mine yesterday too and it has arrived. What do you think of it?
I have had a quick glance- nicely produced and very interesting.

Yeah, I enjoyed reading it, and am looking forward to playing it.

I especially liked the initiative system, a bit like Bolt Action, but frequency is determined by quality of troops not quantity.

The rest of the game seems sweet and to the point. They haven't wasted a lot of space on covering everything ever, but just got straight to the nitty-gritty of what happens when Steve the establishment pawn royal fusilier points his sterling at Dave the marxist-anarchist-revolutionary.

I was a bit disappointed that the setting wasn't covered much. Istm that is where the main interest in the game should lie, but they're bringing out a supplement for this, soon, according to the rules. And as a 48 yr old Brit, making my own factions should be trivial, in any case.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range by MBM
Post by: Arlequín on February 16, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
The rest of the game seems sweet and to the point. They haven't wasted a lot of space on covering everything ever, but just got straight to the nitty-gritty of what happens when Steve the establishment pawn royal fusilier points his sterling at Dave the marxist-anarchist-revolutionary.

I presume that he can turn and walk away or he can fire the gun, stare at the sky and stare at the sun.  ;)

The initiative system sounds like a good call, that was something I liked about Bolt Action, but the randomness of it not so much. You couldn't move in conjunction with other units either; so your Saracen would have to go tootling down the road with the guys that were behind it stood in the road hoping for another of their dice to come out the bag next.

Regards

Ex-establishment pawn.  lol
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Chris Abbey on February 18, 2016, 07:33:46 PM
I'm very much looking forward to playing this, VBCW-2! or should that be VBCW-5 (if you include the 3 disturbances back in the 17th Century). I've ordered some figures and am planning to use my Modern British buildings and maybe add a council flats and multi-story car park to the range.

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Categories/Photorealistic_Wargames_Terrain/Photorealistic_Wargames_Terrain_Gallery/28mm_uk_road_system_10,Medium.jpg)

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Categories/Photorealistic_Wargames_Terrain/Photorealistic_Wargames_Terrain_Gallery/28mm_uk_road_system_9,Medium.jpg)

I will need to update the cars and some of the onlookers, but apart from that pretty much good to go.

Lots more photos in my terrain gallery: http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Photorealistic-Wargames-Terrain/Photorealistic-Wargames-Terrain-Gallery (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Photorealistic-Wargames-Terrain/Photorealistic-Wargames-Terrain-Gallery)

If anyone is in North Yorkshire and fancies a game, let me know!

Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: orm1 on February 18, 2016, 07:48:52 PM
Council flats and car park sound great
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: monkeylite on February 18, 2016, 09:54:31 PM
We did a little run through of Living on the Frontline, to get used to the rules, with added cats:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S89R57guagE/VsYwfhQHVBI/AAAAAAAADac/h_NeBX7pSFU/s1600/003.JPG)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lyS-4U-9C7M/VsYwupTfRzI/AAAAAAAADas/47OOk__E4S4/s1600/067.JPG)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8KuUnDPoPRg/VsYxVeDJG4I/AAAAAAAADbU/CRwW9zVMLu0/s1600/121.JPG)

http://tewblogger.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/living-on-frontline.html
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 18, 2016, 11:24:45 PM
I'm very much looking forward to playing this, VBCW-2! or should that be VBCW-5 (if you include the 3 disturbances back in the 17th Century). I've ordered some figures and am planning to use my Modern British buildings and maybe add a council flats and multi-story car park to the range.

Go with something like this
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 18, 2016, 11:25:24 PM
Then all you need to do is add this....
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 18, 2016, 11:26:42 PM
 I know I am a bit dim but how do I order the figures?
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 19, 2016, 02:04:39 AM
Oh that's a great photo Carlos, consider that pose nicked.

www.mikebravominiatures.com should take you to the webstore.

Due to pick the first batch up from the casters on Tuesday. Dollies for the next sets of sculpts just need to be cast up then we're good for quite a few more Brit poses (command and section weapons next), both with and without flak vests, head swaps and so on. More PIRA (priority)  and armed civvies on the to do list too.

Also looking forward to getting some of the Sally 4th buildings.  .
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 19, 2016, 07:19:01 AM
Cheers Mike.

I was having a giggle today reading about the Irish Cabinet's 'almost decision' to invade NI in Aug '69. Fortunately for the paddies, someone saw sense and realised it was a monumentally stupid idea that would have seen the Irish army destroyed and all political capital lost, including entry into the EU. That said, it was serious enough for the Irish CoGS to conduct the planning and with considerable and pointed wit, title it Operation Armageddon. The nuttier members of the cabinet were dead keen on it so it's a potentially amusing what if, unless you are playing the paddies of course. Only about half of the Irish regular forces were deemed in any way combat ready and the Free Clothes Association were in even worse shape.

The idea was for company sized battle groups to take key points in Derry, Newry and elsewhere along the border, whilst 'commando' groups attcked the offices of the BBC in Belfast, Stormont and lines of communication. Mind shatteringly daft of course. From a gaming perspective it's appealing cos the Irish still had 8 Comet tanks in 1969, albeit short of ammo as well as those hilariously Heath Robinson Ford armoured cars plus the odd Landsverk. No airforce, no navy and probably a realistic lifespan of about 48 hours give or take, once the army and RAF got stuck in.

Who wouldn't like to brew up light grey painted Comets with a Charlie G outside the walls of Derry?
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Ray Earle on February 19, 2016, 10:23:37 AM
Ordered some squaddies.  :D

I'll wait for some more insurgent releases before picking them up.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 19, 2016, 11:18:02 AM
Cheers Ray.

Interesting snippet, Carlos. So it seems a handful of Comets were still trundling (albeit modified guns) in the mid 70s before becoming display pieces etc.  I wonder if a W79 faction might have infiltrated Curran Camp to liberate the one kept in running condition..?  Even without main ammo one of those appearing in a street brawl could be a game changer (until the Army arrives at least).

I can certainly imagine the Irish intervening on humanitarian grounds to set up safe zones in the event of a W79 decent into disorder. I've always like the Panhard 90 that they used at that time, and the Irish were in Lebanon which is where our IDF range will get to one day... oh God you've planted an idea... NURSE! MY TABLETS!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 19, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
Comets had the original guns, unmodified. Trouble was the HE ammo for them was mostly unserviceable by the late 1960s which limited them to AP/ APDS and that was fast running out. They even converted one hull by mounting a 90mm RCL as a sort of mobile SP AT gun. They ran out of cash to do any more conversions.

It's hard not to gain the impression that the Irish Army of the late 1960s was a less than fearsome and all conquering force. Lack of funds meant they were poorly equipped and not especially well trained. Their record in the Congo was less than inspiring and their only other military experience until the late seventies, where they served as Aunt Sallies/ live figure eights for Israeli gunners in southern Lebanon, was getting a sun tan in Cyprus.

Still, the whole episode is so Ruritanian, it's kind of tempting, if limited to platoon sized skirmishes. Plenty of shots of British squaddies in summer 1969 in shirt sleeve order so I'm half tempted to field both sides using Eureka conversions or utilise my remaining Mongrel Congolese mercs as the Irish. Saladin v Comet sounds like a fair fight.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Grimjack on February 19, 2016, 12:30:00 PM
Now then Carlos, could you provide a link for Operation Armageddon?

I'm the chap who has written the first supplement for LotFl - W'79 and hinted at the USA-backed United Ireland Initiative, where the Republic take over in NI and try to unite the nation, backed up by US 'Advisors'...

I'm supposed to be just editing the fourth supplement (yep, number three being written by a mate now) which would focus on the games being played by others but your desription has just hooked me into wanting to write the Irish bit myself - which just proves how absorbing this stuff is!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Grimjack on February 19, 2016, 12:34:23 PM
Of course, if you put together suitable forces for the late '70's rather than the let '60's, you would be a great resource for photographs, or you could even write up your gaming as scenarios for the book?

I'm sure I could help to source figures, there are actually quite a few manufacturers aiming to support the concept now! :)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 19, 2016, 02:30:05 PM
This should get you started:

http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/operation-armageddon-would-have-been-doomsday-for-irish-aggressors-1.728983

I muust find the RTE documentary on it. Bound to be on youtube.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on February 19, 2016, 02:33:29 PM
... no navy and probably a realistic lifespan of about 48 hours give or take, once the army and RAF got stuck in.

I can't believe you're so dismissive of the Flower Class Corvettes; Macha, Maeve, and Cliona. Why they'd take just 48 hours to get ready for sea!

... where the Republic take over in NI and try to unite the nation, backed up by US 'Advisors'...
 

Thanks for that brain nugget... I'm picturing plastic paddies being sought out as advisors, so they can blend-in with the Irish forces and McDonald's execs wrestling with the Catch 22 of prominent advertising on uniforms versus the need for camouflage.

 ;)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 19, 2016, 02:41:56 PM
Not to mention a handful of Vampire trainers for the AirCorps.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Chris Abbey on February 19, 2016, 03:11:00 PM
I'm very interested in the project, I have a number of new buildings plan to bring my British town from the 1940's up to the 1970's. Council flats, Multi Story Carpark, more shops etc. So if anyone would like a photo-shoot for photos to go in any new publications, do let me know and I'd be very happy to help out.

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Categories/hobby/New_folder2/very_british_civil_war_game_2_5.jpg)

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Categories/hobby/New_folder2/very_british_civil_war_game_2_4.jpg)

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Categories/Photorealistic_Wargames_Terrain/Photorealistic_Wargames_Terrain_Gallery/28mm_uk_road_system_11,Medium.jpg)

http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Photorealistic-Wargames-Terrain (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Photorealistic-Wargames-Terrain)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Grimjack on February 19, 2016, 04:01:10 PM
Carlos, many thanks, I now need to see that documentary and the report itself, Google here I come!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 24, 2016, 09:19:14 PM
Sitrep:  Pre-orders are being prepped for despatch and some limited stock is now available.

With pics of some potentially suitable diecasts:

Dinkly 1/60(?) Saracen and Bedford:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F30CQF5cK0I/Vs4YyBlhxQI/AAAAAAAAAR8/dTlD3UtuEu0/s1600/Screenshot%2B2016-02-24%2Bat%2B20.49.29.png)

Corgi 1/50 Bedford S (needs repainting from its brewery livery but makes for a decent requisitioned/rebel lorry):

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ayXYEruPoy8/Vs4ZB-wgMkI/AAAAAAAAASA/ucKcW2OYqi8/s1600/Screenshot%2B2016-02-24%2Bat%2B20.49.53.png)


(The landrover is from Akula's Apocalyspe Isle range)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 25, 2016, 07:45:46 AM
Ordered.  :)

You should probably give these a push to the Ambush Alley crowd, there's a scenario in their Cold War Gone Hot book that features the RAF AKA Baader-Meinhof group  attacking a US base. Your balaclava clad chaps would make good proxies for the terrorists and the forthcoming Yanks the opposition.

I think they have a new forum after the old one fell over but I haven't bothered registering.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 25, 2016, 09:28:55 PM
Thanks Carlos (on both counts).  Oddly enough that's the second time someone has suggested Baader-Meinhof to me today... 


(http://i2.wp.com/wargamesillustrated.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Review.jpg?resize=678%2C381)
http://wargamesillustrated.co.uk/ (http://wargamesillustrated.co.uk/)

WI Review:
"PROS: All the figures are well sculpted, arrived as very clean castings and have suitably realistic poses. They have a touch of character on each one, whether moustaches, facial expression or stance."

"CONS: These could be seen as quite a controversial range..."

Hmmm, on second thoughts perhaps I'd best stop Google Image searching the Baader-Meinhof Group...!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on February 25, 2016, 10:36:00 PM
My pleasure.

By the way, the Polish airborne thing wasn't entirely tongue in cheek.  Your site solicits suggestions for Warpac troops.

Under Fire already do the NVA and on their website the owner mentioned possibly doing VDV and/ or Spetznaz. If it was just me I'd ask for Romanians but then, no doubt, it would be just me asking for them.

I suspect Poles would be a better bet for sales, after the Soviets and East Germans, if for no other reason than there are a lot of Americans of Polish descent and it seems like there is a growing gaming community and established modelling community there, at least on the basis of the Polish companies I have seen advertising. Airborne and /or their Naval Assault division (actually part of the army). Useful for invading Denmark, battling ACE or even fighting the Soviets, if you want a hypothetical with a grain of historical possibility.

It would also appeal to those of us tragic sods who recall sitting in an overly stuffy hut  on warm afternoons watching films like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFnTiacaDU

The enemy party in those films always made me think of Poles.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 27, 2016, 08:03:16 AM
Noted re Poles, will put those on the to do list I think.

Anyhoo:

Iron Man, Wild Goose: 28mm Mercenary Officer for W79 Private Armies and Overseas Ops
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eHIBh6quCkU/VtFV6kjGNDI/AAAAAAAAASg/rC4nz_BlbF0/s320/Screenshot%2B2016-02-27%2Bat%2B07.44.33.png)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: orm1 on February 27, 2016, 01:32:30 PM
I like that full of character
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Ray Earle on February 27, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Brilliant.  :D
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Earther on February 29, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
I approve. :D
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on February 29, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
If you've been on the W79 Facebook page you may have already seen this, but... 

Bravo Go! Go!  Winter of '79

As an experimental alternative to running a KS, I'm giving a discounted pre-order scheme a bit of a run out.  Pre-order the next batch of our '79 Brits and Paramilitaries and not only do you help get the following batches of armed police and armed civilians closer to being produced (ie within a couple of months rather than waiting into the summer), but you get a healthy discount on the RRP AND you get a free Iron Lady as a thank you for essentially taking a big leap into the unknown*.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1120/7370/products/Screenshot_2016-02-27_at_07.44.01_1024x1024.png?v=1456564010) (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1120/7370/products/Screenshot_2016-02-27_at_07.43.31_1024x1024.png?v=1456560819)

The Brits and Paramilitaries are all in various stages of being sculpted, but I'm waiting on an ETA for those and the follow on stretch targets (hence this is still in a 'soft launch' phase). 

This scheme will run from now until about the end of March.  If by then any of the stretch targets aren't in a position to be completed, 'backers' will have the option to take a refund or wait it out.

More info, targets, concept photos (where applicable) and in time the WIP shots, available here:

https://www.mikebravominiatures.co.uk/collections/bravogo-go-new-winter-of-79 (https://www.mikebravominiatures.co.uk/collections/bravogo-go-new-winter-of-79)

*Those who pre-ordered previously will get one too with their next order.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on March 01, 2016, 12:33:56 AM
You should have stuck with one photo, the lady's not for turning...  ;)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on March 01, 2016, 06:10:34 AM
You should have stuck with one photo, the lady's not for turning...  ;)

 lol lol lol lol lol

I'd be more worried about Gerald Scarfe chasing you for an IP infringement. Can we have the not-Maggie tank commander in flowing head scarf next?
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: georgec on March 01, 2016, 07:22:13 AM
You should have stuck with one photo, the lady's not for turning...  ;)

Why does she need  a pistol when she already has her handbag...'
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on March 01, 2016, 08:05:35 AM
That's not a handbag, it's Dennis.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Chris Abbey on March 01, 2016, 08:21:31 AM
Oh yes, a Maggie tank commander, please!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: monkeylite on March 01, 2016, 08:58:35 AM
Rejoice!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on March 01, 2016, 10:03:37 AM
Carlos, that is an inspired idea. And I know of a Chieftain that may be in the works... hmm...

Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on March 01, 2016, 10:50:01 AM
Christ is risen! Don't tell me that after god knows how many years sitting on the Ian Crouch masters, Sloppy Jalopy are actually going to produce something new, er secondhand almost new, well new for them model? Are we sure this is imminent? They have been promising the  Chieftain and the T-62 for a very long time now. I won't be holding my breath.

For the record I have a number of their kits and like them a lot, even if their idea of packaging fragile resin seems to be whack it in a box and hope for the best.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Harry von Fleischmann on March 02, 2016, 09:12:30 PM
Well, my Brits and balaclavas arrived today. Cracking. Simply cracking.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on March 12, 2016, 10:59:41 PM
 Eye candy (painted by Battle Studios (http://www.battlestudios.co.uk/))

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1120/7370/products/70s_brits_1024x1024.JPG?v=1457814305)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1120/7370/products/Paramilitaries_1_1024x1024.JPG?v=1457814390)

Our discounted pre-order campaign for additional W79 poses is about 20% Funded - meaning the female paramilitaries and plain clothed detectives are funded. Sculpting work has commenced on those - WIP photos coming as soon as I have them.

Winter of '79 BravoGo!Go! campaign  (http://www.mikebravominiatures.co.uk/collections/bravogo-go-new-winter-of-79)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: CompanyB on March 13, 2016, 06:29:34 PM
Years ago, before I started Company B, I mastered 1/48 accessories and painted custom models for retailers.  I did partner with a shop in Oregon, and there was a really nice pre-painted Merkava III.  It's a beast of a model in 1/48.  But I did commission Israeli tankers..which I may still have the masters for somewhere.

(http://035f399.netsolhost.com/MerkavaIII.jpg)

But, it's a beast.  It would cost me about $450 for the CAD printing of a 1:56 sherman.  This think this is 5X that size.  Here it is next to a 1/48 Abrams, and our 1:56 Stryker and Panther F.
(http://035f399.netsolhost.com/Size_pose.jpg)
 
We actually now have a shop that could cast this as one piece.  That would save on some costs.  It's still huge though!  I think this would need to be a styrene and putty old school master, as the print cost would deb the same as buying a 3D printer.  And even then... there needs t be demand for it.  If I could sell 50 of these thing the first month it would be a no brainer.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Wyrmalla on March 13, 2016, 07:56:29 PM
Sorry, I'm just off here crying in a corner at the sight of that thing. If the market's as such that WWII dominates then I see your standpoint. The 1980s Israelis which were available a few years ago have gone OOP, whilst I think its more something to discuss with Mike Bravo miniatures what their own plots are for their modern Israelis.

From my own perspective, considering that the alternative for a Merkava in 28mm amounts to a toy, when it comes to Israeli forces it comes down to converting existing tanks. Even then the tanks available for conversion don't really represent what's currently used seeing as they only really use the Merkava, with the older APCs being pushed further into support forces. =/

Saying that IIRC Infinity made a 28mm Merkava themselves as a showpiece. It was a hover tank though, and from what I can remember was a one off (heh, despite, as ever, the cloying gamers asking when it'd be up for sale). :)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on March 13, 2016, 08:23:51 PM
Cheers Brent, very useful.  Wrong thread but nevermind!  lol

So back on topic, an alternate paint job for the W79 Brits by Adam Cooper of http://www.mountainofmetal.co.uk/ (http://www.mountainofmetal.co.uk/)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3VzDFA6prMI/VuXL12LRQqI/AAAAAAAAAUA/eoEbwL0uKi8NoLkzUHXuZtnXO9TvwZ_ew/s1600/12814759_1164880410242609_1345018847242200143_n.jpg)
http://mikebravominiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/w79-paint-jobs.html (http://mikebravominiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/w79-paint-jobs.html)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on March 13, 2016, 08:58:46 PM
Those look good. I can't wait for mine to arrive.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on March 19, 2016, 06:41:44 AM
W79 BravoGoGo Update: First new sculpts

So proving the concept kind of works, the following two new sculpts are the first funded figures to come off the workbench:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KLoLbZ4FVIA/Vuzvk7tLYqI/AAAAAAAAAUg/cjPD9hHGYgUjc7jJBYEUWtZ7RDSrVe-Kw/s320/Screenshot%2B2016-03-18%2Bat%2B19.24.05.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NbK9Xn-UcFE/VuzvkzD7jmI/AAAAAAAAAUc/JypndZYE540SsNT9bN7ox-mVDnDPh9FZw/s1600/Screenshot%2B2016-03-18%2Bat%2B19.24.56.png)

These will be supplied either as shown, or with balaclavas (which will be identical save that we will sculpt on a balaclava, and maybe a different pistol for variety)

NB - depending on funds at the end of the campaign, we may do bareheaded variants for all of the paramilitaries, or at the very least offer heads for DIY conversions.

What's a BravoGoGo?  Why, didn't you know?  http://www.mikebravominiatures.co.uk/collections/bravogo-go-new-winter-of-79 (http://www.mikebravominiatures.co.uk/collections/bravogo-go-new-winter-of-79)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Ray Earle on March 19, 2016, 10:53:10 AM
Now those I really like.  :D Waiting to get paid to fund my order...  :(

I was hoping to see more bareheaded variants to the packs.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Chris Abbey on March 19, 2016, 12:07:39 PM
Those are fantastic, can't wait to get my full set.
If you have not signed up to the pre-release deal, well worth a look.
Save 20% and a free exclusive figure! A great independent initiative.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on March 27, 2016, 07:31:56 PM
Just a nudge that this pre-order scheme has been slightly extended but will expire next Sunday (3 April) which will be the last chance to get the deep discount before we shift focus to the next project whilst waiting for Robi to finish the sculpting on these.

Also, bare headed variants of the paramilitaries will be offered so have been added to the scheme.

http://www.mikebravominiatures.co.uk/collections/bravogo-go-new-winter-of-79
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on March 31, 2016, 05:45:44 PM
Introducing the B-Squad:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1120/7370/products/Screenshot_2016-03-31_at_17.13.18_1024x1024.png?v=1459440843)

3 days left for the W79 BravoGoGo... http://www.mikebravominiatures.co.uk/collections/bravogo-go-new-winter-of-79
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on March 31, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
Nice to see you've almost achieved your target, well done!

I have some semi-critical remarks about your plod figure though...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r2OfSQiwPxw/Vv1eQUYqF3I/AAAAAAAAXFs/Ey0sb0pAhq4ZEWogvk6jBDMOoD5RhfyVgCCo/s430-Ic42/Screenshot_2016-03-31_at_17.14.48_1024x1024.png)

The major thing for me is the helmet, it actually does look like his head could reach the top of it (I wish I had a £1 for every time I was asked that), it should be about the same size as his head and the brim should flare outwards.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QNwim6cvzYg/Vv1fcnUBJuI/AAAAAAAAXF0/XKi2tpDbiVY2V7jbwwQVdWNLKmIV3FoEACCo/s624-Ic42/_80440000_minersstrike.jpg) 

The top is fine, few forces used the 'Trumpton Fire Brigade' style combed helmet like in the pic above.

Plus he has no radio.  :?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lSWHSu3YuO4/Vv1i9Sl4vLI/AAAAAAAAXGA/P0v3hBALOWUZW4p859Wlp5lvtXi0uQrFgCCo/s620-Ic42/dixon_2972517b.jpg)

"Evening all!"

Minor point: the epaulettes were stitched down flush once the numbers had been put on, so as not to give a grip to anyone being naughty... as modelled by Sgt Dixon above.

Really Petty Point: the whistle chain was attached to the top button, but it should come from under the jacket front. It's the correct pocket though.

Personally I might have given him a flat 'car cap', but the helmet is legit... although iirc dedicated armed police, i.e. the Met's D11, or other forces AFO's wore dark blue berets (along with FR 'boiler suits').
 
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on March 31, 2016, 10:07:13 PM
Thank you very very much Arlequin.  I have the helmet on my 'snagging list' already as it looked a bit odd (hence not explicitly previewed) but your other points are very helpful.  Added to the list :)  Radio is my fault, the reference pics I sent to Robi didn't have one.  Would all constables have had them? 

Ref the headwear choice, I think we'll do a mix of helmet and flat caps, with spare heads to swap around as people see fit. 
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on March 31, 2016, 10:13:04 PM


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QNwim6cvzYg/Vv1fcnUBJuI/AAAAAAAAXF0/XKi2tpDbiVY2V7jbwwQVdWNLKmIV3FoEACCo/s624-Ic42/_80440000_minersstrike.jpg) 
lSWHSu3YuO4/Vv1i9Sl4vLI/AAAAAAAAXGA/P0v3hBALOWUZW4p859Wlp5lvtXi0uQrFgCCo/s620-Ic42/dixon_2972517b.jpg[/img]


 

I knew he was a member of the Labour Party but I never knew that Harry H Corbett was a miner or active in the NUM. Guess he must have fallen on hard times after Steptoe and Son. Good to have another career to fall back on.  :)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on April 01, 2016, 10:13:13 AM
Radio is my fault, the reference pics I sent to Robi didn't have one.  Would all constables have had them?  

Ref the headwear choice, I think we'll do a mix of helmet and flat caps, with spare heads to swap around as people see fit.  

Unless they were not on patrol (in station, attending some formal function etc), or on riot duty (when only the section leader had one), everybody carried a radio. There were several different types, each force having different ones. This was a common one and seems to be the one Dixon is using.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K5S2GRQ1y60/Vv41Oz_EVrI/AAAAAAAAXGU/-cAVqEH5z3o5aMaB7yhGroOGpPknjAbIgCCo/s512-Ic42/BURNDEPT%2BBE470%2BSERIES_IMG.jpg)
Burndept 470... some good photos here; http://avonsomersetpolice.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/equipment.html (http://avonsomersetpolice.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/equipment.html)

My force never bought the mike/speaker/aerial attachment, so we usually clipped the radio onto our collars, or much more rarely used the nylon yoke harness that sat the radio in the middle of your chest (or bounced it in your face if you needed to run, or could be grabbed).

The one shown in the picture of Dixon has the main unit worn on the trouser belt (left or right as preferred) under the jacket, so only the mike/speaker unit can be seen. There was obviously a small bulge wherever it was under the jacket. I recommend this, otherwise just the radio could be too prominent on the figure and 'draw the eye' too much.

Helmet or cap is a good call, the beret would be no different to the army type, and as all AFOs were almost always ex-servicemen in any case, were worn 'forces' style.

I knew he was a member of the Labour Party but I never knew that Harry H Corbett was a miner or active in the NUM. Guess he must have fallen on hard times after Steptoe and Son. Good to have another career to fall back on.  :)

I can't help seeing the copper as a young 'call me Dave'.

On another note, you can see all the numbers and division letters have been removed from the epaulettes, so as to foil identification in press photos. You couldn't stitch the epaulettes down on the mac as it ruined the waterproofing.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on April 01, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
I can't help seeing the copper as a young 'call me Dave'.

 lol

Extra points to you for the most elaborate pigs head gag imaginable.

Speaking of radios, if you are doing more squaddies in IS gear then ask your sculptor to add personal radios. The Pye Pocketfone was the standard item in the '70s/80s. They were also issued to a number of police forces, so it might make sense to make the one master. Same set up, so pretty much indistinguishable from the model in Arlequin's photo in 28mm.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on April 01, 2016, 03:32:42 PM
Good calls both.  Thank you again. 
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on April 01, 2016, 11:10:54 PM
You're welcome.

I don't like nitpicking, but I thought you'd appreciate someone piping up before moulds were made and figures cast. Looking forwards to seeing the completed model.

 :)

Extra points to you for the most elaborate pigs head gag imaginable.

Completely unintended and coincidental I assure you. Sometimes history does it all for you.  ;)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Chris Abbey on April 20, 2016, 02:54:42 PM
(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Battle_Reports/Combat_Patrol_WOD2/Mike_Bravo_2.jpg)

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Battle_Reports/Combat_Patrol_WOD2/combat_patrol_winter_of_79_4.jpg)

(http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Battle_Reports/Combat_Patrol_WOD2/combat_patrol_winter_of_79_7.jpg)

I painted up my first section of these excellent miniatures from Mike Bravo a couple of weeks ago and they almost immediately got themselves involved in a firefight attempting to liberate the sleepy market town of Abermule.

More pictures and after action report at: http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Hobby-Pages/Hobby-Blog/Combat-Patrol-1979-Winter-of-Discontent-Op-Gargoyle (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Hobby-Pages/Hobby-Blog/Combat-Patrol-1979-Winter-of-Discontent-Op-Gargoyle)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: The Gray Ghost on April 20, 2016, 10:19:53 PM
Awesome report
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on April 27, 2016, 08:35:33 PM
Cheers Chris, good to see the guys in action.

Latest off the Robi production line:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VCNIrOgB6tc/VyEQCbqMWsI/AAAAAAAAAWc/qHJFfz-SA3EevQF6BefvN03q8gLydo-2gCLcB/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%252828%2529.jpg)

Squaddies next in the queue.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: The Gray Ghost on April 27, 2016, 11:21:37 PM
 :-* :-* :-*
How soon will these be available?
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on April 28, 2016, 12:59:49 AM
Very nice figures...  :)

... but how are they carrying their ammo?   :?
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on April 28, 2016, 07:40:22 AM
So you want the Treasury to have ponied up for weapons AND ammo? This isn't a fantasy ruleset y'know!  lol

Will see what I can do later on.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on April 28, 2016, 09:47:45 AM
I could already see their miserly hand at work with the Bren, as it's a .303 rather than 7.62 (old ammo stocks cost nothing to use up). I take it traffic wardens are toting SMLEs.

 :D
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: The Gray Ghost on April 28, 2016, 09:01:45 PM
I like them the way they are, looks like they have been hastily pressed into service.

So you want the Treasury to have ponied up for weapons AND ammo? This isn't a fantasy ruleset y'know!  lol

Will see what I can do later on.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: carlos marighela on April 28, 2016, 09:59:48 PM
I could already see their miserly hand at work with the Bren, as it's a .303 rather than 7.62 (old ammo stocks cost nothing to use up). I take it traffic wardens are toting SMLEs.

 :D

Why would you need to arm traffic wardens? Quite effective unarmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExKdZwQg-A4
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on May 20, 2016, 10:47:22 PM
Just by way of update on progress, latest greens here:

http://mikebravominiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/w79-bravogogo-progress-report.html?m=1 (http://mikebravominiatures.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/w79-bravogogo-progress-report.html?m=1)

Taster:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tmKUuqyIO6I/Vz9Shp5LYSI/AAAAAAAAAXQ/546GvfseoyI17iDBS2QLls4drCVUZdNjgCLcB/s1600/W79%2BBrits%2B1.jpg)

(Some of the weapons, ie sterling stock, L4 magazine and gpmg pistol grip are being corrected)
Rest of the planned paramilitaries are next on the sculpting list.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on May 20, 2016, 11:36:28 PM
Very nice figures indeed. Nice juxtaposition too if you're given the police a 'Bren' and the squaddies an 'L4'.

Granted that they are 'operational', but their RSM will be itching to pass out the odd hairnet. I hope the guy with the beard is a pioneer sergeant too, otherwise... well let's just say the RSM will be awfully rude about his apparent 'transplant'.

;)

Seriously though... top job!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: The Gray Ghost on May 21, 2016, 01:07:57 AM
Do you know when you will have the store restocked?
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on May 21, 2016, 08:17:41 AM
Arlequin - we've fixed the Bobby to L4 based on feedback elsewhere, but I think we'll have the Civvies etc with the Mk3.   And yes, I think the razor will come out for the ones for my own collection but gave left the sculpts as they are as others might like the character (and W79 is all a bit if silliness anyway so 'anything goes' to a degree...)

Gray ghost - the W79 codes will be restocked once I've started shipping out all the new sculpts to the bravogogo backers.  I took them off as the new Brits have hackles so I'm resounding the original 5 to match. 

The AU and Cold War codes will be released  for pre-order shortly, with delivery end June (in time for July 4th maybe.)  The Soviets will be a BravoGoGo effort to get more VDV and Spetsnaz completed - aiming for a total of 16 VDV and 8 Spetsnaz initially.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on May 21, 2016, 09:55:58 AM
Arlequin - we've fixed the Bobby to L4 based on feedback elsewhere, but I think we'll have the Civvies etc with the Mk3.   And yes, I think the razor will come out for the ones for my own collection but gave left the sculpts as they are as others might like the character (and W79 is all a bit if silliness anyway so 'anything goes' to a degree...)

Yes I'd guessed some flexibility was needed. Troops preparing for and on deployment to N.I., became 'hairy men', so they wouldn't stand out so much in civvies... a rule which could easily apply in the '79 scenario. Add-in the Territorials, or units gone rogue and you would certainly have something akin to the Hair Bear Bunch. In all the variations work and a file or green-stuff will alter any that don't fit to individual taste.

Regulations aside the guy with the beard has bags of character, I think he's actually my favourite out of the lot.

Bren vs. L4 is small beans really, there would be no real difference other than aesthetics. Changing the L4 mag to the Mk. III's banana mag shouldn't be too much trouble and painting wood instead of black fixes the rest.

In my mind I was seeing 'regulars' and 'territorials' with Maranyl-fitted SLRs. 'Regular' police with walnut-fitted SLRs out of stores, Hobby-Bobbies with No.4 rifles and both with Mk. III Brens... that's my mental image though and everyone's mileage will vary of course.   

Have you any plans to do police with 'vests' with MP 5, AC556 and/or HK33, a la RUC? Historically the RUC began with Sterlings and SLRs, but soon bought-in the afore-mentioned items (I'm guessing UK Police would do likewise in this scenario). It would add some diversity and help depict the progressive fascist foxtrot (guns for specialist officers only > armed officers on routine patrol to support beat officers > guns for all).

 :)     
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on May 21, 2016, 10:01:57 AM
RUC are on the hit list (err, poor use of words...) so will think about how best to kit them out.

Also fancy doing a pack of Irish Army too as I quite like their look (at least the guys on the border anyway) and they'd make for an interesting base for a W79 faction.


Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on May 21, 2016, 10:46:15 AM
RUC are on the hit list (err, poor use of words...) so will think about how best to kit them out.

 ::)  ;)

Presuming you plan on dual-use for them, if you go for the Ruger/HK/MP route, then they would fit for a mainland Police Support Unit/Special Patrol Group/CTU/Maggie's Boot Boys type unit, when compared to the run of the mill 'armed beat bobbies' you have so far.

The RUC cap was virtually the same as the 'UK' style one, just slightly higher in the headband part iirc... in 28mm you would be hard-pushed to tell the difference.

Separate heads are also a way forward, there are so many options across the board...

As for the Irish, I don't know... that would be one for the '79 hard-core. If contemporary to the British troops you have, as far as I recall, they were virtually identical. Only when they picked up the Steyr AUG and their Kevlar helmet (whenever that was) did they become markedly different. As far as involvement in UK affairs outside of NI, you might as well choose the Dutch, Belgians or French though, with equal legitimacy.  

Edit:- The obvious faction being ignored are the Americans. They did after all have a number of bases in the UK, have their own agenda and so forth. While ground troops would be a stretch, Rangers, SEALS and Green Berets, and of course CIA, would be interesting models in the Late '70s/Early '80s.   
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on May 21, 2016, 01:13:03 PM
As for the Irish, I don't know... that would be one for the '79 hard-core. If contemporary to the British troops you have, as far as I recall, they were virtually identical. Only when they picked up the Steyr AUG and their Kevlar helmet (whenever that was) did they become markedly different. As far as involvement in UK affairs outside of NI, you might as well choose the Dutch, Belgians or French though, with equal legitimacy.  

Edit:- The obvious faction being ignored are the Americans. They did after all have a number of bases in the UK, have their own agenda and so forth. While ground troops would be a stretch, Rangers, SEALS and Green Berets, and of course CIA, would be interesting models in the Late '70s/Early '80s.   

'89 for the Steyr I think.  I figure the Irish will be an easy conversion from the Brits (head swaps, adjust the uniform a bit, change the pockets on the flak vests).  LR/FN FAL probably indistinguishable in 28mm?  I'll end up doing this for me, so may as well stick them in a mould for others.

As for the Yanks, well we have Anton's mid 80s US about to go on pre-order (with plans to back date them with head/weapon swaps).  Admittedly a different style to Robi's W79 ones but at table distance, could do a job if you think the Air Bases would have beefed up security.  Might look at some of those particular troop types you've called out if I look at Central America (still undecided on that).
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Arlequín on May 21, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
Well security was beefed up with just the Greenham Common protesters, so arm the Provisional CND and I'd imagine the U.S. would have to up their game too. They'd use USAF personnel and Marines in the first instance, the latter to be replaced by the Army subsequently.

I was thinking Rangers/Snake Eaters (USAF Police and SF also wore berets) et al for more deniable ops within the UK actually... something HMG would not be happy with, but could do little to stop, things being as they 'were'. I would imagine though that U.S. uniforms might not be the way to go for those on reflection. 

Central America is a different ball game obviously, one which Carlos is more suited to comment on... the obvious thing is that temperate combat clothing and tropical will look quite different on a figure.

I wasn't going to give in to this, but now all sorts of ideas are rolling around in my head... thanks for nothing.  ;)
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Mike Bravo Minis on July 01, 2016, 09:24:44 PM
So finally Wave 1 has been cast, and the first ones off look generally fine, so these will be whacked into production moulds asap.   I'll be ordering enough stock from the master moulds to send to the BravoGoGo backers.  Wave 2 is still being sculpted, hoping to get picks of the paramilitaries this weekend.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13521922_290464634636044_5564173046043178700_n.jpg?oh=30419f457513244d0be6c23cd58bb587&oe=57F4AD91) (https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13566938_290464651302709_5884704362495021977_n.jpg?oh=b1c539c1a1cda60793d00298a26a87ae&oe=57E90CCD)

Wave 1 comprises: 16 Fusiliers, 4 bobbies, 2 detectives and 6 armed civilians, Iron Lady, & Wild Goose Mercenary


Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: monkeylite on July 02, 2016, 09:08:56 AM
Can't help feeling you might need a Summer of '16 range.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: Ray Earle on July 02, 2016, 12:02:54 PM
That's a lot of lead.  :D
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: JArgo on July 02, 2016, 04:27:16 PM
Can't help feeling you might need a Summer of '16 range.


I was thinking the exact same thing!
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: commissarmoody on July 02, 2016, 07:28:03 PM
Can't help feeling you might need a Summer of '16 range.

I have been makeing cracks about this even before the vote came out.   lol
It would give me an excuse to pick up some modern British troops.
Title: Re: (Commercial) 28mm 'State of Emergency' Range/Winter '79 chat
Post by: tomcat51 on July 15, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Can't help feeling you might need a Summer of '16 range.

I thought of the W79 range as it all happened as well, lol.