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Title: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Khurasan Miniatures on February 12, 2016, 04:40:58 PM
We are very pleased to release the first army in our 15mm "Late 16th Century" range -- the Spanish.  This was the period that saw the mighty tercio at its apex, with Spain at war in the Netherlands, attempting invasion of England, intervening in the French civil war, and sending troops to aid the Irish.

Armoured pikemen
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-hvy-pk.jpg)

"Pica seca" (unarmoured pikemen)
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-lght-pk.jpg)

Arquebusiers
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-arq.jpg)

Musketeers
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-musk.jpg)

Infantry command
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-inf-comm.jpg)

Corazas (heavily armoured pistoliers)
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-cuir.jpg)

Lancers
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-lncr.jpg)

Armoured mounted arquebusiers
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-hv-mtd-arq.jpg)

Unarmoured mounted arquebusiers
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-lt-mtd-arq.jpg)

Heavy cavalry command
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-hv-cv-comm.jpg)

Light cavalry command
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-lt-cv-comm.jpg)

High command
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/l16-span-hgh-comm.jpg)

Artillery is coming soon.  The "herreruelos" were actually German Reiters, and they are available now as well, but they haven't been painted up for display yet.  All mounted codes can choose the simpler horse furniture or the fancier version with long rump straps. 

Available now:
http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/late16thcentury.html
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Knight of St John on February 12, 2016, 06:49:28 PM
Thank you. Just what I need for the Great siege of Malta. Will make my first order from this range as soon as I get the children to sleep.
Michael.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Andym on February 12, 2016, 06:52:43 PM
They are lovely wee figures! :-*
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: MattW on February 12, 2016, 11:51:12 PM
These are beautiful little figs. Can't wait to see the rest of the range filled out.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 13, 2016, 08:33:15 AM
 :-* Awesome miniatures. What do you have planned for future releases?

BTW... Anyone interested in the period should start here: http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/sfbattle.html
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Paul Richardson on February 13, 2016, 11:23:17 AM
Very nice. I wish someone would bring out something similar in 28mm. My eyes can barely cope with 28mm so I'm sure I couldn't cope with 15mm now.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Khurasan Miniatures on February 13, 2016, 03:55:15 PM
:-* Awesome miniatures. What do you have planned for future releases?

The English will be next -- pikes, arquebusiers, muskets, bills (used only by militia in the late 16th C), longbows (ditto), infantry command, light horse (with shield as shown in Ireland), demilancers, heavy cavalry command, and high command. They are done and ready for release. Just want to space them out a bit from the Spanish. They can fight the existing Tyrone Irish rebel range of course, or can fight the Spanish in the Netherlands or at home (assuming the armada landed).

Dutch and German (later landsknects, imperials, etc) foot have been made. Reiters have as well and are up for sale -- just waiting for Rafa to paint them to display them. Ditto the artillery, and a set of master gunners of various nations.  (He just got this stuff.)

Dutch cavalry is being made as are variant English Light Horse wearing plate rather than the chainmail and shield combo shown in Ireland. I'll need to investigate what sorts of cavalry besides Reiters the late 16th C. German/imperial armies used.

After that Clib is taking a detour from late 16th C and making Sassanids. Once they're done, French, which will be suitable for the last campaigns of the French Wars of Religion, including Henri IV's super army with Royal Swiss and Miller cavalry!

After that we may make late 16th C Ottomans. Ultimately I'd like to make every army that marched in Europe in the late 16th C.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on February 13, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
Fabulous additions! :-*
Will said Landsknechts be wearing baggy trousers?
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Knight of St John on February 13, 2016, 05:19:41 PM
They look marvaous and looking forward to receiving my order. 16th C ottomans would make me very happy. Do you have any plans of adding sword and buckler men to the Spanish range?
Michael.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: rumacara on February 13, 2016, 11:20:24 PM
Great miniatures. :-*

DONT FORGET THE PORTUGUESE TOO.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Khurasan Miniatures on February 14, 2016, 01:29:37 AM
They look marvaous and looking forward to receiving my order. 16th C ottomans would make me very happy. Do you have any plans of adding sword and buckler men to the Spanish range?
Michael.
Rodoleros had been phased out by this period in continental service.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Khurasan Miniatures on February 14, 2016, 01:33:46 AM
Great miniatures. :-*

DONT FORGET THE PORTUGUESE TOO.

Well, in this period (1580-1605) the Iberian Union was in effect. Did Portuguese troops in continental Europe look different from the Spanish?
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: rumacara on February 14, 2016, 10:45:55 AM
In terms of equipment no, except for a few helmets and less availability of armour.
If i find images of the helmets and/or other variations of equipment i will pass it to you.
There are some portuguese figures of this period that you can check from Eureka that illustrates a bit the aspect.

http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_781_787&sort=3a
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 14, 2016, 12:18:47 PM
Well, in this period (1580-1605) the Iberian Union was in effect. Did Portuguese troops in continental Europe look different from the Spanish?

No, not really... And less so in Continental Europe.

From the period iconography I've noticed the Portuguese tended to use more the cabasset than the morion along with other types of contemporary hats. The main difference was in the cavalry.

Acobertados: They were the army’s powerful shock weapon. The higher nobility still maintained a medieval structure and fought armoured in caparisoned horses (much like French Gendarmes) that performed a crucial role in battle. They protected the king, the vulnerable infantry and were used to puncture the enemy lines.  By this time a small number of acobertados were beginning to be used by the garrisons in North Africa in conjunction with the light cavalry as a holding force when disengaging and protecting retreating infantry.

Ginetes: The traditional and best cavalry mounted in Moorish fashion that had already proven very effective during the Reconquista and in North Africa. They were highly mobile with their jack of plates, adarga shields and lance and served not only as scouts and skirmishers but as an excellent counter-measure against other light cavalry and foot.

Estradiotes: The Portuguese estradiotes were closer to chevaulegers and English demilances than to light cavalry. Lighter armoured than the acobertados these gentlemen and esquires, were used in support of the heavy cavalry. After the Moroccan disaster they were probably the only heavy cavalry available during the Spanish invasion of 1580.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 14, 2016, 12:24:04 PM
In terms of equipment no, except for a few helmets and less availability of armour.
If i find images of the helmets and/or other variations of equipment i will pass it to you.
There are some portuguese figures of this period that you can check from Eureka that illustrates a bit the aspect.

http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_781_787&sort=3a

The Eureka range isn't a good example for "Continental" armies. The figures are more suitable for colonial types and small expeditions.
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Khurasan Miniatures on February 14, 2016, 02:32:36 PM
Thanks for all of that information kingscarbine. To what extent did those formations survive post 1580?

Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: wkeyser on February 14, 2016, 07:34:46 PM
Just put in an order for 200$. I love that you are doing this period. Please move up the French Wars of Religion as the Perfect Captain has a fantastic set of rules from small actions to campaigns to sieges.

The fact that they are specifically for this period is just icing on the cake.  So you can start small with the action small scale rules and move upto larger battles with Pistols.

Keep this up Khursan and don't forget to add to the Thirty Years Wars figures.

William
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: rumacara on February 14, 2016, 10:11:13 PM
Quote
The Eureka range isn't a good example for "Continental" armies. The figures are more suitable for colonial types and small expeditions.

Indeed. I just mentioned as a base to see some types of equipment. :)
Title: Re: Khurasan releases 15mm Late 16th century Spanish
Post by: Kingscarbine on February 15, 2016, 07:01:50 PM
Thanks for all of that information kingscarbine. To what extent did those formations survive post 1580?

The Portuguese cavalry could make 1/4 of an army or garrison but the best part was lost in the ill fated 1578 Morocco expedition.

In 1549 people of “status” should have: high saddle, corselet with gorge, thigh and arm protections, sword and 20 palm lance; they could also have cuirasse and gineta (light cavalry/Moorish style) saddle instead; if they didn’t have corselet they should have arm protections or an adarga shield instead, plus full head protection.

In 1639 all the cavalry in the Kingdom of Algarve (Southern Portugal) was equipped with lance and adarga shield as in emergency situations they would support the North African garrisons, as in the 1562 siege of Mazagan.

There aren't any records of mounted arquebusiers prior to 1580. Neither the "Rules for horses and weapons" of D. João III (1549) nor the "Weapons Law" of D. Sebastião (1569) stipulated the use of firearms by the cavalry, although that practice was widespread in the Spanish army (the herreruelos and the harquebusiers made up to 1/5 of the Spanish cavalry in 1580). In 1613 the garrison of Mazagan had 60 mounted arquebusiers, as well as 60 ginetes so it's clear that by this date they were standard.

As to heavy cavalry the use continued well into the 17th century. There are records of their use in North Africa up until 1677 in Mazagan. The Acobertados could be up to 1/3 of the cavalry and the rest Ginetes.

During the 1580 Spanish invasion of continental Portugal and subsequent struggle for the Azores until 1583 the main cavalry available was provided mostly by towns and lesser nobility so the heavy cavalry was mounted on unbarded horses backed by light cavalry. The higher nobility was either pro Philip, bought or neutral. At the battle of Alcântara in 1580 even the Lisbon Moors volunteered a squadron.

Pikes level!

KC