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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: miltiades on February 15, 2016, 09:06:31 PM
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hi guys.
I have started a new project. Yes it is Peking 1900 - I will try it. I used paper and corck for the Tartar Wall and the Legations, 1:72 plastic figures [since they cheap and a great variety, most very well sculpted-especially the Boxers] and the buildings are balsa wood [most converted from toys]
Hope you like it...
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Nicely done. A great subject to do. :)
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Superb work.
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I feel a song coming on.
http://woolshedwargamer.com/2013/02/10/monday-music-55-days-at-peking/
Your work is fantastic. Look forward to seeing more.
Brian
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Tremendous :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Great stuff... even if my knowledge of the Boxer Rebellion limited
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Very well done.
Love it.
Do we get to see more photos, please?
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Excellent! :-*
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I see the HaT Russians, I can highly recommend the heavy weapons and artillery sets as well as the Zvesda WWI Russians. Are the Chinese the Orion ones? Great to see a period not normally wargamed. Been thinking of maybe getting the Orion set for RCW Back of Beyond games.
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Thank you all very much...
Very well done.
Love it.
Do we get to see more photos, please?
I will post new pictures as soon as possible, [I am still working on the project]
I see the HaT Russians, I can highly recommend the heavy weapons and artillery sets as well as the Zvesda WWI Russians. Are the Chinese the Orion ones? Great to see a period not normally wargamed. Been thinking of maybe getting the Orion set for RCW Back of Beyond games.
Yes, the Russians are HaT and the Chinese are Orion. They are of great quality, and they come in a wide range. Unfortunately most other figures are RedBox, and they are not as good as Orion and HaT. They are acceptable. You will see in my next posts ! Thanks again all of you ...
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Very nice, and a couple of scenes could have come from the film. Grand show 8) 8) 8)
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Very nice :-* + on :-*more photos!
LB
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hello, I will post more pics as soon as I have finished the second part of the project. But here are two more shots fromn the first part. Thank you guys
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the last one
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Awe-inspiring work in every way! It looks like it came straight out of the film.
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WoW! Love it. Very nicely done.
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Good job! This movie was one of my favorites growing up.
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I almost completed a Chinese Temple. Supposed to represent the Temple of Heaven. It will be a feature in the Peking Game. Here are my first shots of it
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here is a view of the real Temple of Heaven.
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...ANDanother shot of mine... ;)
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Looks stunning
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Simply WOW!
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Outstanding work!
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Simply WOW!
Ditto :o :o :o :o
Darrell.
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A real fine job on the temple.
Love it.
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Thank you all very much. I am working on the British Legation now.
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the project continues
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british legation gate
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some may remark that in 1900's the British did not wear the red uniform in Peking. But in the volk memory they were always in red as we can see in the following pictures.And I like them better in red anyway ! 8)
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Congrats ol'chap! You managed to create a fully recognizable gate! You have managed to be near the end of your project and I'm eager to see us playing!
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thanks Dinos! here is a pic from the original gate. I did my best to make it look like it [ many many thanks to your help with the coat of arms]
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Great work on the temple and the gate! :-* :-* Always glad to see another China Hand in action :D
LB
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And now the platforms of the British Legation. They are made of Balsa wood and then painted
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Awesome project! Beautiful job!!!!
Cheers,
JB
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Now the British Legation almost finished
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I think the time has come to hoist the British flag on the Legation gate, Miltiades!
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British legation: Large Pavillion and Ministers house
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Very nice! I really enjoy this thread.
LB
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British legation: Large Pavillion and Ministers house
They are real beauties! How did you manage to make the lanterns?
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They are real beauties! How did you manage to make the lanterns?
Thank you . The lanterns were made of plaster. They were pinned on the roof [and painted of course]. The Minister had a collection of rare chinese vases and other ornaments. More pics will follow.
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Superb work!
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The project is almost complete! Now I desperately need ruins. I got inspired by alcal and I made a lot of them.
Here are a few shots from my latest job
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Unfortunately alcal's posts have been deleted from photobucquet. Fortunately I have saved some of them and here they are! As you can see the inspiration is OBVIOUS ! thanks alcal so much...I owe you a lot !!! So these three pics are from alcal:
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Hi!
I'm always happy to see you making one more step towards the completion of this project!
Keep up the good job, pal!
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thanks DintheDin... I will post a few more... the first is the construction of the Canal Grande [of Peking not Venice of course ]
and the second is bags ... an easy way i can make hundreds of them ... they look so natural
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Remarkable project - though I'd like to see the ruins a lot more sooty, a heavy wash of black, they look too "clean" after a fire, even with the weathering that is applied.
I'm building up my own collection from the Blue Moon 18 mm range. One more order to go next year which will include a lot of ruins. You, however, are way ahead of me and have the added element of creativity. Blue Moon is kind of cheating - but in this case I'm happy to cheat. Though I'm still hoping to include some scratch built elements, especially the Tartar Wall and the ruined gate house perhaps. And the palace, something akin to the Forbidden City, or at least a portion of it.
Anyone have photos of the real Tsungli Yamen?
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Remarkable project - though I'd like to see the ruins a lot more sooty, a heavy wash of black, they look too "clean" after a fire, even with the weathering that is applied.
I'm building up my own collection from the Blue Moon 18 mm range. One more order to go next year which will include a lot of ruins. You, however, are way ahead of me and have the added element of creativity. Blue Moon is kind of cheating - but in this case I'm happy to cheat. Though I'm still hoping to include some scratch built elements, especially the Tartar Wall and the ruined gate house perhaps. And the palace, something akin to the Forbidden City, or at least a portion of it.
Anyone have photos of the real Tsungli Yamen?
Thank you very much for the kind comments. Yes, the ruins should be more darkened to reflect the effects of burning. This is done in most completed ruins, as you can see in some of the pics. When I finish with them they will all look dark and "sooty". I will order from Blue Moon too... Yes it is a VERY BIG project. I want to emphasize the "feeling", the general impression,that's why it takes me so much time. ;) I dont want the legations to be a collection of wargaming buildings [including medieval castles or modern houses]. I will repeat it here: I need some help from my friends [are you listening DintheDin?] I cant do everything by myself. :). As for the Tsungli Yamen, I only found one pic, and I post it for you
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[are you listening DintheDin?]
Listening! ;) One of the next days, I'll come to burn your ruins lol
About Tsungli (or Zongli) Yamen, the only pic which could be found, is this that you posted and is repeated in the Wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zongli_Yamen
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Just a lovely project - many congratulations! I've had this as a "backburner" project for ages, but
one of the things that has held me up is a lack of photos/plans of Legations other than the British
Legation (and perhaps the US/French Legations). Probably tactless to ask after you're just enjoying
completion of the British Legation, but are you planning to add any more and if so what are you using
for research/inspiration? Oh, and a couple of other questions - did you scratchbuild the British Legation
gatehouse, and if so, how did you do the coat of arms (another thing that has held me up!). And what
rules will you be using - the ones that were published in Miniature Wargames years ago, or something
else ? Sorry to raise so many questions, but your work and photographs are inspirational!
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Just a lovely project - many congratulations! I've had this as a "backburner" project for ages, but
one of the things that has held me up is a lack of photos/plans of Legations other than the British
Legation (and perhaps the US/French Legations). Probably tactless to ask after you're just enjoying
completion of the British Legation, but are you planning to add any more and if so what are you using
for research/inspiration? Oh, and a couple of other questions - did you scratchbuild the British Legation
gatehouse, and if so, how did you do the coat of arms (another thing that has held me up!). And what
rules will you be using - the ones that were published in Miniature Wargames years ago, or something
else ? Sorry to raise so many questions, but your work and photographs are inspirational!
thank you leadboy. Now about your questions. I will try to answer them one by one:
1st question: there is no lack of photos/plans of legations. On the contrary; you can find plenty of them on the internet. Just google British/German/ Japanese/Italian etc Legation Peking 1900 and you will be surprised! Besides thanks to Blue Moon you may now find ALL legation gates of the period ! So, dont worry about it. A good question would rather be: "what will you do AFTER you play a couple of times the 55 days game?" This is a really good reason to hold you back from the project. What will you do with the huge volume of Walls houses gates ruins, Temples Palaces and Walls ? They are not very useful in other games you know-and this is a big problem. But I have gone too far to stop it here. :D
2nd question.I am planning to add more pics, I have already completed 2 more Legations, but I will post them all-hopefully before this Christmass!!!
3rd question. YES i scratchbuilt the British Legation Gatehouse. The wonderful coat of arms is photoshopped by my good friend DintheDin! I love it!
4th question. Oh yes the rules. Well, this is another issue. I do have a set in mind and as soon as I play I will let you know !
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Here is the Victorian coat of arms I gave to Miltiades to put over the British Legation entrance.
Paper. When seen from a distance it looks like 3D! Isn't it?
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...and Miltiades put it in place
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Thanks for the photo of the Tsungli Yamen! And here is a link to a setup (unpainted) of the Blue Moon buildings I've acquired so far. http://steeplechasingzebras.blogspot.com/p/boxer-rebellion.html (http://steeplechasingzebras.blogspot.com/p/boxer-rebellion.html)
More to come as I said. Oh, and that link will be used in my own thread here on the Colonial Page, too. That's what I came on here to do.
Don't worry about just playing the 55 Days at Peking. Be creative and come up with other scenarios - rearrange buildings to provide different tactical options. And I disagree - the buildings can be used in other theaters. I plan to use most of my Legation buildings to other purposes such as Musketeers in France or Indian Mutiny games. Just have to be careful about making them look too Chinese.
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Thanks for the photo of the Tsungli Yamen! And here is a link to a setup (unpainted) of the Blue Moon buildings I've acquired so far. http://steeplechasingzebras.blogspot.com/p/boxer-rebellion.html (http://steeplechasingzebras.blogspot.com/p/boxer-rebellion.html)
More to come as I said. Oh, and that link will be used in my own thread here on the Colonial Page, too. That's what I came on here to do.
Don't worry about just playing the 55 Days at Peking. Be creative and come up with other scenarios - rearrange buildings to provide different tactical options. And I disagree - the buildings can be used in other theaters. I plan to use most of my Legation buildings to other purposes such as Musketeers in France or Indian Mutiny games. Just have to careful about making them look too Chinese.
1. Your pics are AMAZING ! BLUE MOON has done a great job and deserves our respect. Unfortunately the Legations are extremely expensive by the Greek Standards ...Of course they are worth their value - but I cant afford the cost of 180-200 $ plus the transport expenses just for one Legation. It is a pitty they dont sell the Legation buildings separately [with only one exception]. Of course I will order a few parts [because I cant resist] but I would like to order more. The wonderful building of the Russian Legation for instance...
2. I think you are right. The buildings [especially the Blue Moon buildings] may be used in other theaters: The Russian Legation building might easily be used in an Indian mutiny game: perfect for Lucknow !
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And now, the Canal...Well, you can never have a 55days game without a canal-right?
So, the Canal divided the City in two parts. In winter it looked like this
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But in Summer it was almost dry and it looked like this
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or rather like this [full of grass]
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so I decided to make it look muddy and with grass in most parts
Here it is...
[funny thing is I used several layers of simple varnish [gloss] to represent water and it worked very well. No need for the expensive material used by train modellers to represent rivers et.c.]
The banks are made of paper photoshopped by DintheDin. We tried several kinds of "stone" before we concluded to the one you see in the pic. I know I have to cover some parts of the old "stone" with the new one...I will do it soon
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That canal is great :-* :-* It looks very believable to me.
LB
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That canal is great :-* :-* It looks very believable to me.
LB
Oh ! thank you so much!
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I'd like to post these pics, showing how much effort you put for the canal :-*
Eh, I put a little finger there ;)
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Wow, love the combination of research photos and model work to recreate the "Jade" river - though way too wet for the time from my readings but, who cares, great model. Not so thrilled with the walls - though they are great looking walls. They just give the Chinese too much cover in a game to attack the legations - although that might be good for the Chinese players. But hard to give the canal 'depth' without doing something like that. One of the bigger challenges I have ahead is creating that same feature. Would love to see Blue Moon, or someone, do appropriate bridges. Have you found any sources for bridges or are you scratch building all of yours?
Oh, you could have made the river a lot more realistic if you'd modeled a lot of small tubular items floating about, brown in color. Ick. :-[ ;)
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Wow, love the combination of research photos and model work to recreate the "Jade" river - though way too wet for the time from my readings but, who cares, great model. Not so thrilled with the walls - though they are great looking walls. They just give the Chinese too much cover in a game to attack the legations - although that might be good for the Chinese players. But hard to give the canal 'depth' without doing something like that. One of the bigger challenges I have ahead is creating that same feature. Would love to see Blue Moon, or someone, do appropriate bridges. Have you found any sources for bridges or are you scratch building all of yours?
Oh, you could have made the river a lot more realistic if you'd modeled a lot of small tubular items floating about, brown in color. Ick. :-[ ;)
Thank you FifteensAway. Yes. The Canal looks perhaps more wet for the time. But take a look at the following post card of 1900; the canal is full of water in the foreground and almost dry in the background. You can also see the bridges. They look quite western. However, I will add at least one Chinese looking bridge, because I want to emphasize on the "oriental" side of the game...I keep in mind that this is meant to be a game scenery and not a diorama.
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Miltiades, thank you very much for your reply to my questions. It was a couple of years ago that I researched the Legations (by book and internet) and encountered my problem - perhaps things have got much better since or my google-fu was simply weak. I shall go back and search further as you suggest. I remember at the time that a lot of the internet stuff showed the Legations after they had been rebuilt, rather than pre-Rebellion, and is was quite clear that they had not been rebuilt "as was" (e.g. the introduction of the 'glacis wall' all round the Legation Quarter for defensive purposes). As to the British Coat of Arms, it does look 3D and I never thought of 2D photoshopping - thank you and now I have the JPEG (thank you sir) I will have a go at this myself!! Oh and well done on the canal which I think is "just right" as a representation/gaming piece. I very much look forward to seeing your other Legations in due course and staying in touch with this thread for inspiration!
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While I like the color photo of a canal, it can't possibly be near the Legation Quarter based on both the nearby buildings and especially the hills in the near distance. Though your point about near by water is understood. My reading says canal by Legations was essentially dry (they had to dig wells during the siege) but that near the 'gate' the relief came through (via the canal) was a putrid, fetid, wet spot. So, a bit of difference of opinion in the original sources.
Would like to know if the earlier black and white photos show the a legation wall on the left and a wall of the Forbidden City in the background, if you know?
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Talking about the canal, we needed to build something quickly, so, I decided to help Miltiades with paperwork.
My initial suggestion for the canal wall, was this:
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For the canal waterbed, with the help of Photoshop, I assembled some mud holes and putrid little streams, with dirty, brown water, as follows:
I made three different pics, which you may notice that I tried to make them overlap each other,
so that the first, repeated a second time can be again the continuation of the third and so on.
On that bed, Miltiades found the time to invest and created a 3D riverbed with grass, water effects etc.
Free for anybody interested to use them.
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...as Miltiades did not like a so greenish canal wall, I made another one, which he finally used (see previous canal pics, top of this page)
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Time for another Legation... the Russian Legation this time. Another creation by DintheDin !!!
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The Russian Legation under attack!
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Would like to know if the earlier black and white photos show the a legation wall on the left and a wall of the Forbidden City in the background, if you know?
The first black and white photo is entitled: "Beijing Eastern Wall captured [!] by Russian troops with Russian Flag above the gates". The flag is pretty obvious. So the answer is: No, I dont know anything more but ... yes, it looks like the wall of the Forbidden City is in the background and a Legation wall is on the left... 8)
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The Russian Legation under attack!
Miltiades, don't make people believe we started wargaming, please mention this was only a mock-up trial lol lol lol
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"Miltiades, don't make people believe we started wargaming, please mention this was only a mock-up trial"
What, the two of you don't know that it's all over the internet the two of you invented wargaming, started it all? You must keep up with the times! :o
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What's necessarily "western" about a masonry arch bridge?
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Lovely stuff. You both are a great team! If you don't mind my asking, which figures are you using? I don't recognize them. Keep up the great work!
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Lovely stuff. You both are a great team! If you don't mind my asking, which figures are you using? I don't recognize them. Keep up the great work!
thank you. The figures are 20mm plastics. The Boxers are Orion. Fantastic figures. The Germans, the Americans, French and Japanese are all RedBox. RedBox has a very good set of Boxers [historically accurate but not as good as Orion's]. The British are ESCI or Italeri. The Russians are WWI HAT [because the RedBox Russians are awful]
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Thank you! They look great.
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the Boxer Artillery ! 20mm plastic
the guns are from Mars and the figures are from HaT, the 'British Marines and Sailors' set, with small conversion.
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Bang and their gone...
Loving this project especially love the ruins. What rules will you be using?
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Bang and their gone...
Loving this project especially love the ruins. What rules will you be using?
the rules? well... let me finish the project first, and I will think about it afterwards. As I said beforeI have some rules in mind but I have to test them first...
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This is developing into a really nice modelling project
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Love what you're doing!
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Miltiades, I think the time is mature to post some more photos...
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Love what you're doing!
Thank you very much !
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Hello guys ! The project is almost completed. I still have to do a lot of details [which will take a lot of time of course] but I think I can see some light at the end of the tunnel. So here we go, with some shots from the Wall. The Americans try to defend it from the Boxers...
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On the other side of the wall the Germans defend their own barricade
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... but the Boxers are swarming through the whole city !
And now they attack the Russian Legation!
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... the British Legation has also some probelms !
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the wounded are taken inside the buildings...
meanwhile, the French are in a desperate situation !
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And now the Boxers atack the German Legation ! The Germans are cool and steeady. [As always...]
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Only the American Legation doesn't seem to face any problems. Everything is quiet there. But most of the American defenders fight on the Wall...
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Well, that's all folks !
For the moment... Next post will show the Japanese Legation and a birds eye view of the Legation Quarter ... but as you can guess it will take some time!
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Loving it ..
I hear it’s siren call
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Loving it ..
I hear it’s siren call
thank you very much. And here is one last pic of the French Legation which I love very much but forgot to post
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Miltiades, I think the time is mature to post some more photos...
You justify my previous quote!
You had amassed a tremendous potential and now you release it in one burst!
Great! Really great! :-*
Bravo mate! You spent many working hours to achieve all this!
I tremble with anticipation when you will be ready so as to play the actual game!
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Oh wonderful stuff. Great terrain and wonderful figures. Excellent. :-* :-*
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I love this project :-* :-*
LB
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I love this project :-* :-*
LB
Oh wonderful stuff. Great terrain and wonderful figures. Excellent. :-* :-*
Thank you, thank you so much!
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Great stuff militiades. I especially like the bridge; I painted mine standard grey but your red coloured stones are very eye catching.
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Miltiades, this project is beautiful. Truly epic sir! I love everything about it.
Cheers,
JB
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thank you very much. And here is one last pic of the French Legation which I love very much but forgot to post
Very eye-catching! Cheers!
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Great thread :)
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Miltiades, this project is beautiful. Truly epic sir! I love everything about it.
Cheers,
JB
Great stuff militiades. I especially like the bridge; I painted mine standard grey but your red coloured stones are very eye catching.
Great thread :)
thank you all very much... :D
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55 DAYS IN PEKING: THE GAME... So, finally we managed to play the first game of the 55 days in Peking. As soon as I got OSHIRO'S fantastic moon gate and walls for the Japanese Legation I started to work and couldn't wai for all the small details to complete. Anyway here are the pics from the game...
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OK
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Great set up 8)
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...and here are the last pics of the project
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...and a pic of the "old Betsie"...
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I was one of the lucky ones who had the honor to participate in this legendary game! Great table set up thanks to Miltiades' tireless for months and months work, having an eye to little details!
(I fell in love with Betsie at first sight! :-*)
Playing the part of the Americans, luck was not so grateful to me, as I found myself out of ammo since the first round and, overwhelmed by a horde of Boxers, after heavy hand-to hand losses, was compelled to abandon my side of the wall... Also, my embassy caught fire, but fortunately I put it off, then I played a marginal role in the game, as the Boxers drew their attention mainly against the Russian, British embassies and the French who were defending Prince Tsou's Palace.
We have to thank Miltiades who spent a lot of time for this wonderful setup and hope that we will be given the chance to play the game again soon!
Miltiades, it was an epic evening! Cheers!
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Looks incredible and sounds like the game itself was as good as the high quality terrain!
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Great looking game, can you tell me what rules you used please?
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Great looking game, can you tell me what rules you used please?
. Thank you. I used a ruleset by Pete Jones http://freewargamesrules.blogspot.com/2012/01/55-days-at-peking-rules.html . It was very good [very clever cards etc] but it took a very long time and we had to stop after 6 hours of gameplay. Pete's game lasted two days, I think. Of course, when you play a game such as 55 Days in Peking you don't expect to finish it in an hour or two! However, I think I have to use a very fast ruleset ...We will see. I am open to any ideas
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Thanks for that, I have down loaded a copy and will give them a try.
I have a large force of Boxers and most of the Colonial troops, tried "the men who would be kings" but not 100% happy with them.
cheers
Keith
Victorious miniatures
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Where in the British legation did you place "old Betsie"?
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Where in the British legation did you place "old Betsie"?
I placed it in front of the Wall ramp, to face the swarming boxers. But this was a game [our first try; there will be more!]. I think you may place it wherever it looks more impressive; then you try to take your best photos ... iF YOU GET IMPRESSIVE SHOTS THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS! :D
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I've been enjoying the pictures of your layout. Thanks for the quick rely, and getting great pictures is the name of my game too! Richard
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Hello guys. HAPPY NEW YEAR !
This is the last game of 2019 we played. It was aan attack on a small town during the Boxer Rebellion. The Boxers wanted to destroy the prestige of the Imperialist forces. Some Boxers were hidden inside the village, but the main bulk of them came from entry points at edges of the table. There were four strategic points and the Boxer players had to destroy them in order to collect Victory Points: there was the Mission, where there were women and children (guarded by the French detachment, the Camp with a German force and a russian Garrisson near the River. A British Rescue force was about to come. There was also an old Temple with two Chinese Guns. The Boxers had enough ammunition and they wanted to take them from there. We used very fast and easy-to-play-house rules. The luxurious terrain is from Pedion Modular Terrain. https://pedion.ecwid.com/ (A great terrain indeed).
All figures are 20mm plastics; buildings are converted and painted by me...
The Wall of the Mission is from Oshiro https://www.oshiromodelterrain.co.uk/ (more from Oshiro in my next Post). Steamboat constructed by my friend Harris. Enjoy!
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For more pics, please see here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=new_set
Hope you like it !
cheers!
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Truly excellent project
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A great game and terrain setup thank you
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flickr wants me to log in - and I ain't doing it! Too bad, 'cuz I'd like to see more.
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flickr wants me to log in - and I ain't doing it! Too bad, 'cuz I'd like to see more.
Please use this link to Miltiades photos
https://www.flickr.com/photos/156813554@N03/albums/72157712558689816
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For more pics, please see here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=new_set
Hope you like it !
cheers!
Hi buddy!
Thanks for organizing and hosting this beautiful game! Much fun was had and we enjoyed the reunion of some of our best friends, long time to see!
The terrain you set up is gorgeous! Your work on the Chinese houses is already a legend ;D
Hosting a great event on Christmas at your home has become a tradition!
Thanks for sharing the photos, they can be viewed there:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/156813554@N03/albums/72157712558689816
only you can view the link you gave ;)
Cheers!
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Great looking table! That looks like a terrific game.
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Beautiful work! love the use of paper and textures for the board and buildings! really looks great!
I lived in Beijing for a while and you've captured the feel of it very well with the rooftops and walls! Love it :-*
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Great looking table! That looks like a terrific game.
THaank you very much.
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Beautiful work! love the use of paper and textures for the board and buildings! really looks great!
I lived in Beijing for a while and you've captured the feel of it very well with the rooftops and walls! Love it :-*
Thank you for your kind words. The paper work was made by DintheDin. I did the assembling and the other buildings (I am so happy you like the feel of the Beijing!) Thanks a lot. (I will try to make some dirty earth-roads and add some more details next time...) Cheers
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A new 55 days in Peking game,
many new pics
hope you enjoy!
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A general view of the scenery...
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waiting for the Boxers to Attack...
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The Boxers attacking in many small groups...
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they were easily dispersed ...
(However, they managed to set the American Legation on fire!)
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... the Americans were not the only ones who had problems with the Boxers. The Russians had also a hard time...
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And the British had some difficulties ...
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But the main action was on the Wall; the Germans were obliged to retreat from their barricades on the Wall. Even the German Legation was abandoned. The Boxers burned everything!
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Brilliant! 👏🏻
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Looks great :)
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Beautiful :-* :-* :-*
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I wish to thank my buddy Miltiades for the organization of this grand game! :o
It was a game he was carefully planning for at least 4-5 years before to the smallest detail!
Because I was there, I can testify that the pictures posted do not give justice of how exciting and nail-biting this game was!
Unless... our friend posts some more pictures, especially focusing on the Japanese and French legations I was defending lol ;)
And, naturally, on the British embassy, which was very hard pressed! Cheers!
Well done, Miltiades!
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I wish to thank my buddy Miltiades for the organization of this grand game! :o
It was a game he was carefully planning for at least 4-5 years before to the smallest detail!
Because I was there, I can testify that the pictures posted do not give justice of how exciting and nail-biting this game was!
Unless... our friend posts some more pictures, especially focusing on the Japanese and French legations I was defending lol ;)
And, naturally, on the British embassy, which was very hard pressed! Cheers!
Well done, Miltiades!
ok Dinos ! thank you ... Here it is then: a few shots from the Japanese and French Legations ...
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the Japanese Legation ... (the wall and gate is from Oshiro's models)
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the French Legation been attacked ... (French and Japanese Legations are set on fire!)
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Heroic French defenders ...
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A few more scenes from the fight ...
Japanese troops helping the French to defend their Legation
Boxers from the Canal
a few pics of the fight on the Wall,
and a final shot of
the British Legation
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You took wonderful pictures, pal!
A real visual treat!
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Very impressive! Great looking game!
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55 Days at Peking: The Song of 11 Nations [COMPILATION]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq8Hy7527fc
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What a beautiful table and what envy, to be able to play that way. Being able to display that scenery and play such an emblematic scenario must have been wonderful.
Congratulations on having been able to carry out the project and have been able to enjoy it
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Great looking game!
The game must have been interesting with so many walls - did you have any real adaptations for this?
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Love how the colors work together - other, very nice setups, travel a more 'garish' color scheme. Yours is much better - at least to my tastes. Sincere flattery in the offing (as in 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery').
It is also an embarrassing reminder that I have the whole of Old Glory's 15 mm legations set plus a German legation I put together from their stuff - and more for the other buildings, including ruins, and lots and lots of their appropriate figures. And it all sits waiting to be worked on. The hazards of the hobby, I suppose.. I did 'complete' my Tartar wall - a full 12' in length.
Really nice. Also curious how the walls impacted the game. (Are the Oshiro items 15 mm or 25 mm?)
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Great looking game!
The game must have been interesting with so many walls - did you have any real adaptations for this?
Sorry, I didn't get what you mean. If you ask if the walls were replicas of the real Legations walls, no, they were not.
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No, that’s not what I meant.
It was more from a game play perspective, walls in wargames give cover for defenders, and attackers would have movement broken up by the walls. But most of these rules work on the general assumption that there aren’t that many walls that close together. So my question was did you have to adapt the rules at all to work with lots of walls, or did they work fine as is?
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No, that’s not what I meant.
It was more from a game play perspective, walls in wargames give cover for defenders, and attackers would have movement broken up by the walls. But most of these rules work on the general assumption that there aren’t that many walls that close together. So my question was did you have to adapt the rules at all to work with lots of walls, or did they work fine as is?
Wargaming 55 days gives an extremely long and complicated game. As far as I know, some "55 Days" games lasted even three whole days! Most games never finished. (This one I know from personal experience). Therefore, I used my own 55 days rules, that were designed to be very simple, very fast and very easy to learn. Even with these house-rules the game lasted 5 hours (!), and we didn't play the final Turn (... it was almost clear that the "defenders" won, and the Boxers lost the game, but we were too exhausted to find it out).
Now, according to the rules we used, all the defenders of Walls or Barricades, had an advantage against their attackers in melee. So my answer to your question is "yes", and "no", because we didn't adapt a particular ruleset, but we invented a ruleset for the 55 days at Peking.
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Thanks for the update - sounds like some epic games - which suit the epic scale of the project!
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I’d seriously love to play on a set up like this……fantastic!
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Loving this thread and that it is 1/72 is a bonus. very creative and exotic thank you.
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Loving this thread and that it is 1/72 is a bonus. very creative and exotic thank you.
I’d seriously love to play on a set up like this……fantastic!
Thanks for the update - sounds like some epic games - which suit the epic scale of the project!
Thank you very much for your generous comments!
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Miltiades, this is an absolutely incredible project my friend!!! Your attention to detail is amazing. This is a EPIC table. I’ve been looking at and enjoying this thread for years and am very happy that you continue to post. Though anyone who knows you is aware that all your projects have the same awesome attention to details, like your Sudan project.
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Miltiades, this is an absolutely incredible project my friend!!! Your attention to detail is amazing. This is a EPIC table. I’ve been looking at and enjoying this thread for years and am very happy that you continue to post. Though anyone who knows you is aware that all your projects have the same awesome attention to details, like your Sudan project.
Thank you so much my friend for your kind words!
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WoW!Amazing looking game.
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The link to the free rules seems to be gone now but I'd love to know more about the rules you used, especially elements that helped improve the speed of the game.
Are you familiar with the "55 Minutes at Peking" rules - they were published in some old magazines, Wargames Illustrated had an earlier and expanded version in a later issue. That is what originally sparked me to collect figures for the period - long before Bluemoon released their amazing offerings. Was able to find some things, especially the old Cell Mate Miniatures range (often wondered about that name!).
And a question about that river boat in those photos linked - what is the inspiration for the playing cards motif decorations? Something historical or just the personal whim of the modeler? Or maybe used for other games, like an Old West (American) gambling boat?
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The siege was called by the New York Sun "the most exciting episode ever known to civilization."
Would also like more info on rules and scenario ideas would love try something similar maybe only one or two embassies at a time. Keen to also know what minis you used for the German contingent.
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WoW!Amazing looking game.
Thank you very much for your kind words.
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The link to the free rules seems to be gone now but I'd love to know more about the rules you used, especially elements that helped improve the speed of the game.
Are you familiar with the "55 Minutes at Peking" rules - they were published in some old magazines, Wargames Illustrated had an earlier and expanded version in a later issue. That is what originally sparked me to collect figures for the period - long before Bluemoon released their amazing offerings. Was able to find some things, especially the old Cell Mate Miniatures range (often wondered about that name!).
And a question about that river boat in those photos linked - what is the inspiration for the playing cards motif decorations? Something historical or just the personal whim of the modeler? Or maybe used for other games, like an Old West (American) gambling boat?
The siege was called by the New York Sun "the most exciting episode ever known to civilization."
Would also like more info on rules and scenario ideas would love try something similar maybe only one or two embassies at a time. Keen to also know what minis you used for the German contingent.
Well guys, I think we all have to take a look at the new rule set of Mike Blakes' and Chris Swan's : "Righteous Harmonious Fists". https://www.caliverbooks.com/bookview.php?ir22qrgni98td3uimbgs08ekg1&id=29726
I just ordered it and hope it will arrive one of these weeks. (... there is also a picture from my game on the cover ;) ). I am sure that there will be many useful ideas on the subject. I also have to order: https://www.caliverbooks.com/bookview.php?ir22qrgni98td3uimbgs08ekg1&id=29109, because I need a complete set of rules on the period.
Dear Fifteens Away: 1. Yes, I am familiar with the "55 Minutes at Peking" rules. I think we used them the first time we tried the game. The problem with this set (and many others ) is that although they look simple and easy-to learn, they are complicated when you play them with many players. When I started this project I wanted to "design" a game that would be finished in an afternoon; It should take no more than 5-6 hours. (...6 hours is a very long time for old boys like us, don't you agree?). Therefore my rules were designed to work fast and keep a growing excitement to the players. I think I made it because the game lasted a little more than 6 hours but my friends were very excited.
2. The steamboat was scratchbuilt by my friend Haris and there is nothing Historical about it. It was an Old West (American) gambling boat, reminding the Stories of Lucky Luck lol
But we had a lot of fun with it on the table ...
3. Yes, there are many Oshiro's items ( https://www.oshiromodelterrain.co.uk/gallery.html ) in the game and I love them!
Dear Golgotha, I will try post here the rules we used in our game. I will be happy if you get any ideas from them or use them as they are in any of your games. I used 1:72 Red Box http://plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1543 "German East Asia Brigade". (Aren't they lovely? :-* )
P.S. on the rules: You will also need a "map" of the site with distinctive areas . All the areas must be clear.
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What a beautiful table and what envy, to be able to play that way. Being able to display that scenery and play such an emblematic scenario must have been wonderful.
Congratulations on having been able to carry out the project and have been able to enjoy it
thank you very much sir for your kind words!
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Epic ! :-*