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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Vanvlak on March 11, 2016, 07:03:27 PM
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Right, time to get to work.
The order from Ramshackle arrived - with some free bits too, thank you Mr Curtis. 8) 8)
It's going to be a stretch limousine with 8 wheels, quite armoured and a bit battleworn too.
I opted for a few choice bits to make my life as a builder of limousines for Genestealer Cults easier, although not straightforward; so I got the front part as one single piece; a chassis; mud guards; and wheels. This will leave me with a lot of bodywork to build up as it looks like a truck with an undersize cab so far.
Here are the bits (the exhaust pipes were the gratis bit, along with some others - very useful!). I'm not showing all the wheels and mudguards here of course.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/DSCF8541_zpsllk9fypy.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/DSCF8541_zpsllk9fypy.jpg.html)
And here's how they'll go together, although I'm sure it's fairly obvious:
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/DSCF8543_zpscosinq6t.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/DSCF8543_zpscosinq6t.jpg.html)
Next step will be cleaning them up from flash and starting the assembly. And then I'll need to see how to build up the long cabin for my cultists.
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Good luck mate! ;) What about shortening the main body a bit? Maybe cut about a third off of the big bit?
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Looking forward to seeing this done. Ramshackle stuff should look great together.
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Cool; another one bites the dust then :D
I can already see this approach is radically different, so I can't wait to see where you'll be taking it! 8)
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Love Ramshackle stuff looking forward to seeing how this one turns out.
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That looks like a promising frame to build on.
8)
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Good luck mate! ;) What about shortening the main body a bit? Maybe cut about a third off of the big bit?
I thought about that, but I think I'll keepit ridiculously long....and make sure I only use it where there are no tight turns!
Thanks guys.
Building up the bodywork is a major task, of course - I have an idea where I'm going, except for two details, and one of them is bugging me:
What IS a cult limo used for? I mean does the Patriarch ride in it, because if so the roof has to be high enough for him! ???
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What IS a cult limo used for?
They are to let obviously nonhuman members of the cult move around without attracting suspicion. The imperium being the sort of place where enclosed carriages with darkened windows to let the elite travel without being disturbed by the lower orders are a common sight.
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They are to let obviously nonhuman members of the cult move around without attracting suspicion. The imperium being the sort of place where enclosed carriages with darkened windows to let the elite travel without being disturbed by the lower orders are a common sight.
Yep pretty much. Of course given the wide range of technology across the Imperium the cult limo doesn't actually have to be a combustion engine vehicle a horse (or other alien beast) and carriage or even one of these wouldn't be out of place IMO
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KhdQ0-bfC-8/UmLU0qiNEsI/AAAAAAAAEHY/aGW9mEbwrds/s1600/sedan-chair.jpg)
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Now there's an idea! :D ::)
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Now there's an idea! :D ::)
Indeed there is!
:D
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Indeed there is!
:D
But I can't have two limos! :o
Or three..... I had another idea which I discarded in favour of this - something mentioned, I think, in a Gaunt novel, a limousine/staff car with the driver riding the front half a motorbike: a bit like the Kettenkrad with limousine rear, instead of the tracked bit.
Kettenkrad:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-725-0184-22%2C_Russland%2C_Soldaten_auf_Kettenkrad.jpg)
What I meant about its use was: does the Patriarch ride it? Because if he does, it would have to bulge for him to fit!
Oh, and does anyone have any ideas for a matriarch figure?
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What I meant about its use was: does the Patriarch ride it?
Well do you want to tell him he has to travel in a removals van you borrowed from Trotters Independent Rogue Traders?
Although there you may be looking at more of a Genestealer Cult Tour Bus
(http://images.j-14.com/uploads/photos/file/53650/one-direction-tour-bus.jpg)
(http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2012-07-05T152743Z_1256890002_GM1E8751T1001_RTRMADP_3_USA-POLITICS-OBAMA.JPG)
(http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/candidatewheelsa.jpg)
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Hmmm, no, not a bus, although it IS going to be big - and I think he'd eat a removals van rather than travel in it.
I still can't see him squeezing in my monstrosity, though - not unless he slides in sideways or travels reclined or prone! :D
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Here's the mascot on the bonnet.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/DSCF8546_zps6wusj9jd.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/DSCF8546_zps6wusj9jd.jpg.html)
And I'm considering using a 'chassis' I dug up whilst looking for the mascot:
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/DSCF8544_zpsdsffhhlv.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/DSCF8544_zpsdsffhhlv.jpg.html)
It's the controller and battery box from an old Tamiya tank kit.
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How about a cross between a popemobile and a guild navigators roller tank?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Popemobil_Mai_2007.jpg)
(http://media.theiapolis.com/d4/hF3/i1P0W/k4/l1PFD/wZH/guild-navigator.jpg)
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It's the controller and battery box from an old Tamiya tank kit.
Why not use that as a roof to the resin part you ordered?
Just make a section that fits between the two, with armoured windows in, and you are away.
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Why not use that as a roof to the resin part you ordered?
Just make a section that fits between the two, with armoured windows in, and you are away.
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It's a good idea, and looks a bit like a luxury stretch Buffel
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Buffel_armoured_personnel_carrier_%289673155629%29.jpg)
Bit higher than I palled, though.
Hmmm....
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Hmmm, no, not a bus, although it IS going to be big - and I think he'd eat a removals van rather than travel in it.
I still can't see him squeezing in my monstrosity, though - not unless he slides in sideways or travels reclined or prone! :D
I stopped worrying about such things in my 40K games when I realised that ten space marines can cram in to the back of one of these
(http://www.rpggamer.org/uploaded_images/RhinoDisembark.jpg)
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I stopped worrying about such things in my 40K games when I realised that ten space marines can cram in to the back of one of these
(http://www.rpggamer.org/uploaded_images/RhinoDisembark.jpg)
'course they fit, that's what the warp is for.... :D
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What I meant about its use was: does the Patriarch ride it? Because if he does, it would have to bulge for him to fit!
Since Genestealers owe a thing or two to Giger's Aliens, I always figured that whilst they're big and fast, they can also curl up and squeeze into the smallest spaces, just like those Xenomorphs. So a Patriarch would be big, but still a Genestealer and as such, would retain this ability and would maybe ride around all curled up in a foetal position, since he communicates with his brood almost exclusively through psychic means anyway.
Oh, and does anyone have any ideas for a matriarch figure?
The Patriarch is only called that because of the (usually) patriarchal society of the Imperium. He It spreads it's genes through use of its ovipostor, and not through sexual means. So, there actually is no matriarch. The further generations (bar the 5th, which is Purestrain again) does procreate through 'traditional' means though, be that sexually (Humans, Eldar), through spores (Orks) or other means.
I could imagine a Patriarch being called an 'Brain Boy' by an Ork Brood for example.
However; there is no reason why a matriarchal society would not have a Matriarch instead. Or both for that matter.
But since the Patriarch started out as a Purestrain Genestealer, a possible Matriarch would not look any different...
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Yep pretty much. Of course given the wide range of technology across the Imperium the cult limo doesn't actually have to be a combustion engine vehicle a horse (or other alien beast) and carriage or even one of these wouldn't be out of place IMO
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KhdQ0-bfC-8/UmLU0qiNEsI/AAAAAAAAEHY/aGW9mEbwrds/s1600/sedan-chair.jpg)
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319504-rogue-traders-vault-deathwing/
Seen this other day ,scroll down page and it's there,reminds me of alms for the poor,lol
I thought about a carriage pulled by exotic beasts of burden I reckon a vampire counts coach would make good base model.
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http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319504-rogue-traders-vault-deathwing/
Seen this other day ,scroll down page and it's there,reminds me of alms for the poor,lol
I thought about a carriage pulled by exotic beasts of burden I reckon a vampire counts coach would make good base model.
I'd forgotten about that pic - I need to drag out my old Space Hulk rules :D
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Since Genestealers owe a thing or two to Giger's Aliens, I always figured that whilst they're big and fast, they can also curl up and squeeze into the smallest spaces, just like those Xenomorphs. So a Patriarch would be big, but still a Genestealer and as such, would retain this ability and would maybe ride around all curled up in a foetal position, since he communicates with his brood almost exclusively through psychic means anyway.
The Patriarch is only called that because of the (usually) patriarchal society of the Imperium. He It spreads it's genes through use of its ovipostor, and not through sexual means. So, there actually is no matriarch. The further generations (bar the 5th, which is Purestrain again) does procreate through 'traditional' means though, be that sexually (Humans, Eldar), through spores (Orks) or other means.
I could imagine a Patriarch being called an 'Brain Boy' by an Ork Brood for example.
However; there is no reason why a matriarchal society would not have a Matriarch instead. Or both for that matter.
But since the Patriarch started out as a Purestrain Genestealer, a possible Matriarch would not look any different...
Hmm...thoughts of alien queen type stuff - if anything she seemed tougher than the patriarch models (or at least the old ones, which I still prefer to the new one).
Shoehorning the P/Matriarch in the limo: interesting ideas, also leading back to the guild navigator tank idea mentioned above....
Thanks for the insight. 8)
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http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319504-rogue-traders-vault-deathwing/
Seen this other day ,scroll down page and it's there,reminds me of alms for the poor,lol
I thought about a carriage pulled by exotic beasts of burden I reckon a vampire counts coach would make good base model.
Westwinds Empire of the Dead Victorian horror range has some nice models that could work
(http://images.firestormgames.co.uk/cache/data/eotd/15617-brougham-hackney-carriage-gents-coach-500x400.jpg)
(http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/figures/Empire/CarriagesVehicles/VOTD-10%20VAMPIRE%20COUNTS%20COACH-800x800.jpg)
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Hmm...thoughts of alien queen type stuff - if anything she seemed tougher than the patriarch models (or at least the old ones, which I still prefer to the new one).
Shoehorning the P/Matriarch in the limo: interesting ideas, also leading back to the guild navigator tank idea mentioned above....
Thanks for the insight. 8)
Putting your big limo and the Guild tank together I'm now imagine something like this
(http://marketplace-images.collector-modeltrains.com/6cf3bdbc0912d0b3f6efde326127976389aa3d2d-Lionel%20Aquarium%20Car%201.jpg)
(http://tomicaworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/img00414-20110316-0829.jpg)
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First the limo; the coach or sedan chair will have to wait!
That train carriage looks fascinating - I might have to do one of those for the cult. AFTER the limo and sedan....
Meanwhile, a few old 'friends' of the cult will be joining them in this extended* project- tyranids and a motley assortment of imperial types out for their blood.
*doomed to fail.
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Westwinds Empire of the Dead Victorian horror range has some nice models that could work
(http://images.firestormgames.co.uk/cache/data/eotd/15617-brougham-hackney-carriage-gents-coach-500x400.jpg)
(http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/figures/Empire/CarriagesVehicles/VOTD-10%20VAMPIRE%20COUNTS%20COACH-800x800.jpg)
Yes those was the ones I was thinking of decent price an easier to paint than a certain other companies offerings.
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Since Genestealers owe a thing or two to Giger's Aliens, I always figured that whilst they're big and fast, they can also curl up and squeeze into the smallest spaces, just like those Xenomorphs. So a Patriarch would be big, but still a Genestealer and as such, would retain this ability and would maybe ride around all curled up in a foetal position, since he communicates with his brood almost exclusively through psychic means anyway.
The Patriarch is only called that because of the (usually) patriarchal society of the Imperium. He It spreads it's genes through use of its ovipostor, and not through sexual means. So, there actually is no matriarch. The further generations (bar the 5th, which is Purestrain again) does procreate through 'traditional' means though, be that sexually (Humans, Eldar), through spores (Orks) or other means.
I could imagine a Patriarch being called an 'Brain Boy' by an Ork Brood for example.
However; there is no reason why a matriarchal society would not have a Matriarch instead. Or both for that matter.
But since the Patriarch started out as a Purestrain Genestealer, a possible Matriarch would not look any different...
:D 8)
Yep! Tyranids, like orks, aren't male or female, despite monikers like patriarch, boyz, or norn queens. They're 'just'... nids and orks.
I like the image of a... ahem... patriarch spending most of it's time curled up like some Cthulhu statue, sending out it's thoughts. And then, 'coming out of the walls'. (It's been mentioned that the pose of this new patriarch matches the curled-worm genestealer cult symbol pretty well too. You could say patriarchs become used to that coiled state as they grow)
I think the use of a coach or sedan chair (or japanese palanquin?) depending on local tech and culture is an interesting one, though I wonder how it'd fare when the PDF or IG turn grenades, heavy bolters, and leman russ tanks on it. That's the general uncertainty I have about limos, even armoured limos - they're more for driving out of firefights, not into them.
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Nice, are you going for the stretch hummer limo look?
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That's the general uncertainty I have about limos, even armoured limos - they're more for driving out of firefights, not into them.
But the limo look is just too cool to ignore.
:D ;)
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Nice, are you going for the stretch hummer limo look?
I guess that's the closest -although the for end is more Hummer than the aft end.
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But the limo look is just too cool to ignore.
:D ;)
It is a weakness of *our* universe that we are unlikely to see Obama and Putin leading mass tank charges against each other across the plains of Germany from the sunroofs of armoured limos while waving chainswords
(http://newcarsreleasedates.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/New-2016-ZiL-Limo-Russian-automobile-e1433874039944.jpg)
(http://images.hgmsites.net/med/president-obamas-limousine_100350544_m.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tytiJ6AJmos/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Hmm, well my limo might get some firepower for those special occasions when the old man/lady wants to get in claw range.
Here's the chassis in progress: I went for version 2 in the end (which means I have an extra Ramshackle chassis for another project :D ) - the Tamiya remote.
I boxed it in with plasticard, applied sealer, and had to stop there to allow it to cure before sanding. I left the sloping sides at the top and the grooved surface. I removed the Tamiya logo and brand name earlier by sanding, and added the extractor grille on top (I bet a Patriarch/Matriarch stinks to high heaven, and any other passengers, and the driver, will be glad of this feature) and something very useful: the magnet, which can be seen in the roof. That will be related to the afore-mentioned firepower - removable, for those less warlike state occasions where a gun turret or missile launcher (still to decide which, unless I do both as alternative options) is a bit of a faux pas.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/chassis_zps8zphjtfp.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/chassis_zps8zphjtfp.jpg.html)
The mudguards and wheels will be stuck to the side. I could have made them recessed into the chassis, but (i) this will reduce the boxiness of the shape and (ii) is easier to build!
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Hmm, well my limo might get some firepower for those special occasions when the old man/lady wants to get in claw range.
Here's the chassis in progress: I went for version 2 in the end (which means I have an extra Ramshackle chassis for another project :D ) - the Tamiya remote.
I boxed it in with plasticard, applied sealer, and had to stop there to allow it to cure before sanding. I left the sloping sides at the top and the grooved surface. I removed the Tamiya logo and brand name earlier by sanding, and added the extractor grille on top (I bet a Patriarch/Matriarch stinks to high heaven, and any other passengers, and the driver, will be glad of this feature) and something very useful: the magnet, which can be seen in the roof. That will be related to the afore-mentioned firepower - removable, for those less warlike state occasions where a gun turret or missile launcher (still to decide which, unless I do both as alternative options) is a bit of a faux pas.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/chassis_zps8zphjtfp.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/chassis_zps8zphjtfp.jpg.html)
The mudguards and wheels will be stuck to the side. I could have made them recessed into the chassis, but (i) this will reduce the boxiness of the shape and (ii) is easier to build!
Armed vehicle how about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nug5FZgxuk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nug5FZgxuk)
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Looking good, sir.
The reasoning works for me and I am enjoying watching the progress.
8) 8)
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Thanks Mason, I think this is one I AM going to finish - having fun with it. I dug up a few more bits for the limo in the meantime, in particular a pile of as yet unused Ramshackle accessories - and found some potential windows.
As for the turret options: I think I'll have 3 different ones, + the no-turret.
@Diablo Jon - thanks for the link, that was educational. I'm tempted to add a roof hatch now (besides the turret!). Couldn't help th nking what the hail of shells would do to the paintwork as they clattered on the roof (let alone the target).
Speaking of paintwork - I still am VERY undecided on the colour scheme. Probably not purple, although I might go for a dark blue. But I am also tempted by black, white, and desert sand....
And as concerns targets: the inquisitor types in another thread - and some Space Wolves recently purchased here too - will be at the receiving end; although they can dish out punishment too. And THEIR personal mount is just a little bit bigger than the limo.......although not much longer than it. The limo gets a pair of escorts, though, Rhinos, which will probably act as shields and try to block the Inq.'s own transport whilst the Limo speeds away.
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Some weekend progress:
Poor shot of the plan view - it's NOT as distorted as it appears here! I just included this pic to show the wheel layout, the middle pair of wheels bearing the weight of the engine and turret.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/plan_zps8ucz7e9k.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/plan_zps8ucz7e9k.jpg.html)
The tail end, with an emergency exit for the Patriarch.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/tail%20end_zpse4yzvyth.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/tail%20end_zpse4yzvyth.jpg.html)
The front end, now with headlights.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/front%20end_zpsrm6lxyiz.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/front%20end_zpsrm6lxyiz.jpg.html)
Turret option no. 2, for the less ostentatious.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/turret2_zpsvpzbr4ym.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/turret2_zpsvpzbr4ym.jpg.html)
Turret option no. 1 - a proper turret.
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j108/vanvlak/tyranids/turret1_zpssndgdiqb.jpg) (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vanvlak/media/tyranids/turret1_zpssndgdiqb.jpg.html)
I'll probably add a missile launcher option, besides the no-turret variant.
I used the magnet I'd showed previously and a metal flexible sheet on the underside of the turrets to hold these in place.
Sequence of work to follow:
Filler in newly-fitted parts.
Wheels.
Doors.
Further details.
Missile launcher turret.
Other details.
Further filling and cleaning.
Painting (and I am still undecided on the colour).
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Coming along nicely. I think I prefer the smaller turret to the bigger one.
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Coming along nicely. I think I prefer the smaller turret to the bigger one.
Thank you.
I'm retaining both, as I'm using magnets to keep them in place - but I see your point, it's more limo thn the other.
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I like this!
A different kind of 'limo' but it certainly works for me.
8) 8)
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Looking good there, fellow limo-builder! :D
The shapes are working great together; you picked just the right base for the body I reckon.
I will have to echo the turret sentiment; the small one works best, simply due to the nature of the vehicle. However; due to the size of the beast, the large turret visually works as well, so smart move retaining the option to have both.
I'm curious to see this monster on wheels, especially to see how much it will be raised up; my attempt will be having as little clearing as possible, as I'm giving it a bit of a hotrod/lowrider look.
One can only hope that the roadways of a typical hive city are well paved and cared for, or my limo will be confined to the upper crust parts of town... ;)
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Thanks Daeothar.
A wheel test shows the beast will be quite low, so mine too wil be stuck to roads - and it has 16 tyres for a very good reason, it's armoured, carries a Primarch, has a large engine and fuel tank and a gun turret too. It would instantly disappear in a squelch in wet soil.