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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Hammers on March 21, 2016, 09:41:35 AM
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Practising on balsa wood before your large order of blue foam arrives?
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(Or setting up a photo shoot for the next Ikea catalogue?)
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Practising on balsa wood before your large order of blue foam arrives?
You're summoning blue foam, in fact. :D
But whatever it is, it looks cool. 8)
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Some Game of Thrones religious thing perhaps? :D
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He's gone all septic! lol lol lol
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is that being too septical!?! :D
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He's gone all septic! lol lol lol
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is that being too septical!?! :D
Oh, you are *such* a card... But you are right.
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Cooking bacon! Definitely cooking bacon. Possibly before you build a tower/temple/dramatic Tolkenesque ruined hilltop fort.
Snitchy sends.
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That might very well be the Great Sept of Baelor, (or similar)
and a good one at that.
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Not drinking enough?
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Not drinking enough?
That's always the case!
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Setting up Easter decorations in traditional Nordic style. I'm doing the same.
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This is enjoyable.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/134_22_03_16_9_32_31.jpg)
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Now that is looking good 8)
See, bricks is the way to go ;D
cheers
James
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AH NOW I SEE - cake decorating masterclass! :-* lol
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Woah. o_o
Hirst moulds for the bigger bricks and things?
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Yes. For the foundation masonry. The rest is laid brick by brick. Makes for a more convincing ruin, is my theory
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Aha!
Watching with keen interest here :-*
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Looking great so far :-*
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Looking good.
Tony
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I am turning the faux history of this sept over in my head. I am thinking some Stormland lord built it out of penance and remorse. It would be fun to paint some murals on the inner walls. Which style though? Naive, medieval, romantic, prerafaelite?
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Naive medieval would be my take on it...
https://stravaigerjohn.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/medieval-wall-paintings-at-easby-in-yorkshire/
http://www.paintedchurch.org/chaldon.htm
It would likely be in an older 'style' than your current armies, so if you're using round headed windows for the architecture something based around C11 to C13 medieval frescoes/wall paintings should 'look' in keeping ;)
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My mind goes to medieval also.
Where do the smaller bricks come from, and what are you using for mortar? (actual mortar?)
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First picture - witchcraft
Second picture- madness to much witchcraft
Wonderful madness
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I thing the way is torture, the result is pleasure. Maybe Jimbibble(James) teached a new kind of "50 shades of grey" for toy soldier lovers/painters. It looks good so far.
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It´s not so bad. I did the drawing one nigth and startet masonry and bricking the next. That bit is done. The bricks are from an italian company specializing in architectural models. They are of some clay or cellulose material. Not to scale, obviously, but what the hell.
Support beams are also finished. The difficult part is to fit the interior seven central pillars and the statues. Frescoes and shields of dead knights will be for simple pleasure if i get to it.
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I think frescoes with visions of the Seven Hells would be nice. Plenty of material for inspiration there.
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Modern?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Ecce+Homo+%28El%C3%ADas+Garc%C3%ADa+Mart%C3%ADnez%29&biw=1920&bih=946&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjDsert0dfLAhVDupQKHXwqCZEQ_AUIBigB
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Modern?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Ecce+Homo+%28El%C3%ADas+Garc%C3%ADa+Mart%C3%ADnez%29&biw=1920&bih=946&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjDsert0dfLAhVDupQKHXwqCZEQ_AUIBigB
lol lol lol
I'd go with a tapestry, like Bayeux ;D
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Like the brick variations, be interested in seeing how it turns out. For tapestries, look at the dolls-house carpets in a hobby store, or cloth bookmarks you can pick up in souvenir stores - I got some in Turkey or Greece, but they must be elsewhere.
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Currently not being able to build I am doing some sketching and planning of the remaining construction and decoration.
I find it easier to come up with ideas for decorations and other details if there is a backstory so I have decided to place the sept in the Stormlands. It is to have been erected by a long past lord of the house of Trant as a penance for some wicked sin. I picked Trant because of their pretty intimidating coat of arms: shields azure, a hanged man, sable. Ser Duncan the Tall, of the Tales of Dunk and Egg, carries a replacement shield in one of the stories, sporting this heraldry. Also Meryn Trant of the Kingsguard is a bonafide scumbag, which associates his house with all kinds of scumbagery. I like that.
So, what does this mean for the sept? Well, I will work in the coat of heraldry in the decore somehow. Capitals decorated with the twists of hangman's knots, A grotesque in a noose with a protruding tongue. That sort of thing.
I have been jotting down a few ideas for murals (tapestries would have rotted away long ago in this ruin, MediumAl) thinking how the people of westros would percieve the seven hells. I like think that there perception of hell would be slightly different from ours. I am no expert but there seem to be no or few mentions of ghosts, devils and daemons in the stories. Therefore it seems like a good idea to me to have the murals show scenes of eternal torture from myths and realities these people knew.
So far I have come up with these ideas:
- The Hell of the Merciless Sun; people in a desert landscape, tormented under the scouring rays of the sun while sand vipers writhes about their feet (also know as the Hell of Malamute)
- The Hell of Dragonfire; sinners burning in a fire perpetually fed by the bellowings of dragons
- The Hell of Eternal Winter; the dead pushed in to polonyas in a frozen lake by gaunt, white figures
- The Hell of Living Stone; lost souls in an immense cavern, all in various stages of accelerating petrification. Chisel billed birds slowly nick away at the petrified parts.
- Hell of Pagan Sorcery; a dark forrest, the dead are being held, stung, strangled and devoured by vines, trees and thorns, ushered on by strange little brown creatures with burning green eyes.
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Sounds absolutely charming, Hammers :D ;)
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That all sounds great mate, I like the thought you're putting in to it 8)
Could I add the Hell of Perpetual Drowning - Constantly bobbing up and down in the sea, not quite fully drowning but not quite afloat.
cheers
James
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That all sounds great mate, I like the thought you're putting in to it 8)
Could I add the Hell of Perpetual Drowning - Constantly bobbing up and down in the sea, not quite fully drowning but not quite afloat.
cheers
James
Great idea! It could be based on the Drowned God, which I picture people around Westros would be aware of. Perhaps a dark deep sea where lost souls constantly try to swim for the surface but are being dragged down by the arms of kraken. I have three and a half murals to paint and I like that Hell of the Dark Deep before the Hell of the Sourcerous Forrest better.
The door omits one hell since it pretty much occupies one whole wall. Perhaps the inside of the doors could be carved or decorated with ironwork to represent a Hell.
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while sand vipers writhes about their feet (also know as the Hell of Malamute)
Cheers Mate, now I'm imagining that and it's not nice :'(
Definitely my idea of a living Hell :o
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I live to serve, always.
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A few progress shots.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/134_27_03_16_7_42_23.JPG)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/134_27_03_16_7_41_08_1.JPG)
I also want to put a few ideas in text.
Further backstory:
As I wrote earlier I imagine this sept being built as an act of penance by some McBeth-like and long gone lord of House Trant. It was named something like the Sept of Seven Mercies, in an attempt by this sinner to make peace with the gods.
The architectural idea would to having the Seven Hells on the outer interior walls, with the Seven standing in a septaform within, symbolically standing between the worshippers and the Hells. A pleasing idea, but I am thinking the visions of eternal damnation all in all being so powerful and dominant, this place of worship become known as the Sept of the Seven Hells.
The place may have gotten a really shitty reputation and bad luck and ruin followed.
I have been pondering what to put on the entrance doors, something to represent a hell, but not a mural. I took some inspiration from these burial practices from the world of Ice and Fire.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/134_27_03_16_6_19_03_2.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/134_27_03_16_6_19_03_0.png)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/24/134_27_03_16_6_19_03_1.png)
The top image is from the very evocative set Hall of Faces in the temple of Black and White in Braavos, as realized in the TV series. I really dig that scene!
Apparently there is a tradition of placing painted stones on the eyes of the deceased, perhaps echoing the ancient practice in our world to use coins the same way.
So, my thinking is that the doors of my ruined sept will represent The Hell of the Vengeful Dead. The idea is that one of the Seven Hells is, as Sartre said, other people. Those who have murdered, deceived or otherwise caused others death or pain will meet their victims in their own deaths.
In my fancy people have carried the eye-stones of those who have met a violent end and, for a fee, have the septon mount them on the inside of the doors. There they will glare unblinkingly at the visitors, searching for their slayers.
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Loving the build and your thoughts behind it 8) 8)
cheers
James
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Brilliant Peder :-*
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That's a wonderful piece! :o What about the painting of it? It's ashame you're going to loose the colour of the bricks.
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Yea at this stage my work usually looks horribly in need of paint, yours looks nice already.
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This is looking great already :-*
The end result will be stunning!
That's a wonderful piece! :o What about the painting of it? It's ashame you're going to loose the colour of the bricks.
This. Maybe you could just tint the plaster and just weather the bricks too keep their colour? Maybe that is what you planned already
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That's a wonderful piece! :o What about the painting of it? It's ashame you're going to loose the colour of the bricks.
I am definitely going to keep the brick and mortar look as it is on the outside. I'll cover it up somehow and spray paint the masonry in some dirty Naples buff colour.
As you probably understand I dont have everything figured out beforehand, just scetches. The "look" develops organically as I see things develop.
Right now I am trying to figure out the pillars and the beams of the remains of thebat infested roof. Me being me I am really looking forward to painting swarming and dangling bats, badgers, crows, rats and owls to infest the thing.
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This is looking great already.
I really like those bricks, etc.
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And you may be about to pull off the impossible and do a seven-sided building....it wont stand, ya know?
Maybe that is why this one is a ruin... ;)
How about making a couple of doors, now collapsed, with eyes on them to reflect the burial practise thing?
... Me being me I am really looking forward to painting swarming and dangling bats, badgers, crows, rats and owls to infest the thing.
Me too!
I love the sound of that.
:D
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You're summoning blue foam, in fact. :D
But whatever it is, it looks cool. 8)
Hahaha.
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This is looking great already.
I really like those bricks, etc.
Thank you. I am glad a few people get the idea to.
And you may be about to pull off the impossible and do a seven-sided building....it wont stand, ya know?
Maybe that is why this one is a ruin... ;)
To tell you the truth there really is something off and a bit challenging with architecture based on a prime.
How about making a couple of doors, now collapsed, with eyes on them to reflect the burial practise thing?
That's the idea.
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This video is really inspirational for style of art:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zbCN6iYDJU
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Front of the doors ready, except the hinges.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/DoorsofSevenHells.jpg)
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I share your pain with for all that pin work!
Just as well it you weren't modelling this doorway! :o lol
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22elephant+proof+gate%22&espv=2&biw=2240&bih=1202&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHt8PBmIvMAhWKsxQKHfdZDnsQsAQIGw&dpr=0.75#imgrc=k-VPKV4aIkChlM%3A
Nicely done sirrah!
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Splendid work, love that door 8) 8) 8)
cheers
James
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The bell of the Sept of Seven Hells was poorly cast and cracked already when it was for the very first time hoisted up the bell tower of the sept. It became known as 'The Stranger' because of the dull and uncheerful chime it spread over the countryside. When the bell tower was pulled down at what became known as the Mass of Blood (more of that backstory some other time) the bell come crashing down through the roof, killing several worshippers as it imbedded itself in the mosaics of the sept's floor.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/BellOfSevenHellsI.jpg)
The bell is a plastic Skaven Screaming Bell bitz which I found in the local game store bin. I will most likely make a crack in it as I embed it in the floor.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/BellOfSevenHellsII.jpg)
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I share your pain with for all that pin work!
Just as well it you weren't modelling this doorway! :o lol
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22elephant+proof+gate%22&espv=2&biw=2240&bih=1202&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHt8PBmIvMAhWKsxQKHfdZDnsQsAQIGw&dpr=0.75#imgrc=k-VPKV4aIkChlM%3A
Nicely done sirrah!
It was quick work. No trouble really.
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Loving the intricate details (and I might well copy the pinning on the door 8)) :-*
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Love it :D
cheers
James
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Love that door, the detail is great and the cracked boards look perfect.
The bell looks just right too, although I definitely think you should 'crack' it, and maybe break a section off too, as cast metal is more likely to snap rather than bend when hit with immense force.
It would certainly take some damage in the fall, not to mention the damage that it would do to the floor.
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Thats the intention. I have already googled a few historic split bells for referense.
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Thank you all for your input and encouragement I find it easier to make stuff from imaginary worlds, which are not of your own making, when you are able to bounce your ideas onto others.
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As Hammers has demonstrated, using pins can be an extremely effective way of replicating door studs and bosses. This is the main gate of 'Sahyun' using embossed lead foil strips and domed upholstery tacks
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x200/sukhe_bator/Sayhun%20castle%20project/maingate.jpg)
And model railway track pins used extensively as bolt heads on portcullis, door and drawbridge...
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x200/sukhe_bator/Men%20of%20Gondor/IMAG0699.jpg)
They are also useful as bolts when used with glue to attach card straps around wooden beams in siege engines etc.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x200/sukhe_bator/Siege%20engines/DSCF0441_zpsslxguaxx.jpg)
Often you'll need to use a pin vice to pre-drill the holes first, especially if you have to crop them shorter with wire cutters. I find superglue works well to keep them in position on everything bar foam.
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What a fantastic piece of terrain; can't wait to see it finished!
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stunning indeed :-* :-* :-*
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Very much looking forward to seeing this develop
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Six of he Seven in their places. I intend to bash the Father and the Smith eventually. It is rather tricky to get the masonry arches properly in place. I am currently trying brass wire armature and Das Pronto clay to fixate them.
I'd like the forum's opinion on something: I have put a few GW bits heads as grotesque carvings above the pillars. My thinking is that that the people of Westros would use the demons they know as grotesques. I am using a zombie head in a noose for house Trant, an ogre head as a giant, and witchelf head as a child of the forest (with further leaves and elaborations it could be made to look something close to the Green Man of ourworld church ornamentation). I have just put them roughly in place to get an idea what it will look like.
So, what do think? Will it only make it look warhammerish?
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/TheSevenAndGrotesques.jpg)
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Will it only make it look warhammerish?
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/TheSevenAndGrotesques.jpg)
While normally, I would say 'yes', a distinct lack of skull iconography and your superior terrain making skills will ensure that this is not the case.
Looking really good so far...
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I think really suits mate. Love the concept and really looking forward to seeing it complete 8) 8) 8)
What colour are you doing the stonework?
cheers
James
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I think, once it's all blended in together, it will look fine. Don't think the Warhammer bits will notice that much. Just add to the overall ambience...
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I think really suits mate. Love the concept and really looking forward to seeing it complete 8) 8) 8)
What colour are you doing the stonework?
cheers
James
Sandstone, but heavily darkened and stained with green algae.
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Another thing, which I am quite happy with but am not sure came out very well in the LPL entry, is that each god has a copper verdigris attribute. I may have been a bit heavy handed with the hilights, making them blend a little too much with the sandstone. I was contemplating gold but figured that would have been looted long ago.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s10/r06/Hammers_rd06_SixOfTheSeven.jpg)
If any one is interested:
The Maidens virtue is guarded by a copper dragon.
The Mother cradles a copper babe in her arms.
The Father holds the copper scales of justice.
The Smith rests his hand on the handle of a copper hammer.
The Strangers face is a mask of copper.
The Crone holds her copper lantern.
The Knight is off talking to a man about a dog. I assume he carries a copper sword.
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Sandstone, but heavily darkened and stained with green algae.
Nice 8)
I think the copper would need darkening down just a touch.
cheers
James
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Regarding the 'gargoyles'... Go for it, Sir.
They will blend in just fine when you paint the stonework and add to the creepiness of the place.
Nice.
8) 8)
As for the statues....I must confess that the subtlety of the copper went over my head in the original pictures in the LPL.
They add a really nice touch and I think are a rather clever addition to add some colour to them.
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As for the Warrior; I assume he is having a word with the man about his dog peeing on his feet all the time.
;)
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Lovely stuff Peder. The verdigris is a great touch :-*
It's probably too late, but if you want one more statue or a bit more set dressing, I have one of the 'Pure Evil' resin figures, as seen in 'The Jelly Bean Cult' - ZaZjurman's current entry in R7 of the LPL...
It's no use to me, so let me know if it's any use to you and I'll pop it in the post along with your kangaroo etc ;)
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Lovely stuff Peder. The verdigris is a great touch :-*
It's probably too late, but if you want one more statue or a bit more set dressing, I have one of the 'Pure Evil' resin figures, as seen in 'The Jelly Bean Cult' - ZaZjurman's current entry in R7 of the LPL...
It's no use to me, so let me know if it's any use to you and I'll pop it in the post along with your kangaroo etc ;)
You are generosity personified. But, no, I like the assymetry of one statue missing. It adds to the disharmony of the picture.
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As for the Warrior; I assume he is having a word with the man about his dog peeing on his feet all the time.
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You may very well be right.
This reminds me of an old joke:
For decades, two heroic statues, one male and one female, have stood facing each other in a city park until one day, St Peter walks by, as he is prone to do. "You've been such exemplary statues," St Peter said, "that I will, for one hour, bestow upon thee the gift of life, during which time you may do whatever your hearts desire." And with a clap of his hands, St Peter brought the statues to life. The two approached each other a bit shyly and then grab each others hand and dashes for the bushes, from whence there came a good deal of giggling, laughter, and shaking of branches. Fifteen minutes later, the two statues emerged from the bushes with wide grins on their faces. "You still have fifteen more minutes," ejaculated St Peter, winking at them. Grinning even more broadly, the female statue turned to the male statue and said, "Great! Only this time you hold the pigeon down and I'll shit on it's head!"
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lol
Brilliant!
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lol lol lol
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lol lol lol lol lol
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lol lol
THAT would make an original diorama.
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Wonderful stuff, the jokes not bad either :)
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This is really excellent. :-*
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Two murals ready. They will of course be toned down and weathered as I mount them.
Hell of Perpetual Drowning
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/HellOfPerpetualDrowning.jpg)
Hell of the Merciless Sun
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/HellOfTheMercilessSun.jpg)
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Quite the artist 8)
What's the size of them?
cheers
James
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Quite the artist 8)
What's the size of them?
cheers
James
I've scale them down to roughly natural size.The colors are to bright so I will give them a light spray of grey before I proceed.
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Another thing, which I am quite happy with but am not sure came out very well in the LPL entry, is that each god has a copper verdigris attribute. I may have been a bit heavy handed with the hilights, making them blend a little too much with the sandstone. I was contemplating gold but figured that would have been looted long ago.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/images/lpl/s10/r06/Hammers_rd06_SixOfTheSeven.jpg)
If any one is interested:
The Maidens virtue is guarded by a copper dragon.
The Mother cradles a copper babe in her arms.
The Father holds the copper scales of justice.
The Smith rests his hand on the handle of a copper hammer.
The Strangers face is a mask of copper.
The Crone holds her copper lantern.
The Knight is off talking to a man about a dog. I assume he carries a copper sword.
What is the source of the statues themselves?
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Either painted by a gal named Muriel or a chap from Fresno call Al
nice artwork Hammers. It puts me in mind of these from not too far away from me Chaldon, Surrey, UK
http://www.paintedchurch.org/chaldon.htm
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I've scale them down to roughly natural size.
o_o
Sorry mate, I meant in millimetres
cheers
James
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o_o
Sorry mate, I meant in millimetres
cheers
James
100 by 80, roughly
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really nice painting!!!
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Nice work, sir.
8)
Will there be seven of them when finished?
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Nice work, sir.
8)
Will there be seven of them when finished?
No, just four. Two walls are completely demolished, and there's the door. Two of the frescoes will only be partials, since they are not completely intact.
I realise the may be a bit too brightly coloured but I hope to amend that with weathering once they fastened on their walls.
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Some pastels and subtle drybrushing should sort that out. Looking forward to seeing them insitu 8) 8)
cheers
James
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I'm still shocked by the awesomeness behind the whole process :o
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The other two panels completed, part from the wheathering:
- The Hell of Eternal Winters
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Ice.jpg)
- The Hell of Dragonfires
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Fire.jpg)
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Hammers - you are enjoying yourself waaaayyy too much with this project mate!
I'm loving the dragons toasting smores and the prodding with icicles is just inspired!
Those murals are looking great... :D :-*
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really nice freehand you do there!!!!
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Most impressive, sir.
They will look great in situ.
8) 8)
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I have so progress to show which has developed during the last months:
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Roof1.jpg)
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Roof2.jpg)
The space between the upper pilars will be bricked. The wooden structure will be broken upp some more before I tile it with real miniature tiles. This to will be smashed where appropriate.
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Whoa, looks great :D
cheers
James
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Wow! Wow! Wow! Right down to the seven pointed roof beams! Just wow! :-*
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Have to agree, this is some update!
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Wow! Wow! Wow! Right down to the seven pointed roof beams! Just wow! :-*
Glad you noticed. THAT was tricky. Luckilly the construction is broken. I spent a quite a bit of time thinking about construction integrity, supports and weight and so on. I seriously doubt my attempt adheres to Westrosi building code, but hopefully it *looks* ok.
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It looks superb! :-*
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Attention to detail really makes this a great build, even in progress :-* :-* I will very interested in the tiling.
Lon
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I seriously doubt my attempt adheres to Westrosi building code, but hopefully it *looks* ok.
It looks stunning so far, sir!
:-*
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Wow! :o
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Lumme!
Hadn't been following this one at all, LAF has grown so big these days that it is so easy to miss entire threads. For months. That's quite a... thing you've built there, H. Bravo!
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Looks incredible!! :o Are some tattered shingles going up on those beams?
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Looks incredible!! :o Are some tattered shingles going up on those beams?
Tiles. I have a bag of miniature real ones. And possibly a torn up copper spire.
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That is looking very good, Peder 8)
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I'd forgotten about this build and don't recall seeing the frescoes/murals at all last year when you first posted them.
Awesome project, can't wait to see the roof progress!
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That is really excellent, looking forward to seeing more progress
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Tiles. I have a bag of miniature real ones. And possibly a torn up copper spire.
Your dedication to realism in your Wargames models is unrivalled! :o
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Wow! That's fantastic.
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stunning
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Hammers,
You've inspired me to tackle a 7 sided Sept and partly by the S6 timber Sept under construction... I'd also arrived at a similar star shaped framework to support the roof at clerestory level
I think between us we could write the Westeros building code.
Well done, mate. This is looking great!
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Hammers,
You've inspired me to tackle a 7 sided Sept and partly by the S6 timber Sept under construction... I'd also arrived at a similar star shaped framework to support the roof at clerestory level
I think between us we could write the Westeros building code.
Well done, mate. This is looking great!
"A holdfast wilt beest of at least four st'ries of which the bottom one, f'rtified, shalt has't a roof'd dugout of at least 30 yards foot, a obliette, f'r the useth of, or the Crown shall, by the Seven!, have you burnt by wyldefyre!"
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lol lol
For a moment there I thought you were writing in Bibblese.
;)
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lol lol
For a moment there I thought you were writing in Bibblese.
;)
Koff you >:D
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Koff you >:D
I rest my case......
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Best thing I've seen on LAF in ages. Magnificent ;D
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If thou agreest to said terms, reply by raven within a moon to;
W Motte & D Bailey
By the Seven, Artificers, Master masons & holdfast-makers
:D
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That building's insanely good!
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Didthe sept ever get finished, incredible work and I'd love to see how it turned out in tbe end?
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Didthe sept ever get finished, incredible work and I'd love to see how it turned out in tbe end?
Almost. I had a overambitious plan for mosaic floor which I spent hours on but had to heave. It looked rubbish so I go frustrated with the whole thing and did something else for a while.
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I can recommend Miliput and miniature slotted screwdrivers from a Pound shop. Excellent for impressing brickwork, so I'd imagine equally useful for mosaics.
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I can recommend Miliput and miniature slotted screwdrivers from a Pound shop. Excellent for impressing brickwork, so I'd imagine equally useful for mosaics.
Thanks, sukhe. It is not so much about getting the right tools as getting out of a rut. I am a very emotional and interesting person, that way. ;)
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Get out of your bed and finish it >:D
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Get out of your bed and finish it >:D
You go and get a proper job, you slacker. Making custom toys ain't it! ;)
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You go and get a proper job, you slacker. Making custom toys ain't it! ;)
lol
It is for the moment ;D
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I feel your pain. Who'd have thought there'd be so many bricks to sculpt on a 15mm engine shed 200mm x 150mm x 100mm - go figure! ;D
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Hello, it's me again! Have I been gone long?
Spurred by my recent entry in the BSC2020 (https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/44/134-120320202324-44373640.jpeg) I'ver decided to pick up the tools to set to work on this project again....
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptFloorPanels.jpg)
One of the things that sent me stalling with this floor was an over ambitious and not successful to make a mosaic floor for the sept. This time I thought I'd go about it in a different way. I will sculpt paving and a mosaic onto panels which I eventually will glue in place. In the picture above shows some of the panels in place within the sept.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptMiddleFloorPanel.jpg)
The floor has been cut out in a heptagon shape (after a intricate alchemy formula) and cut into section. The reson I don't d the floor as one peace is that I know from experience that there will be a lot of fitting with various and mistakes are easier to amend if you can try fitting them together as pieces.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptMiddleFloorPanelMosaic.jpg)
Apoxie sculpt is a perfect medium to create masonry from (great to work with for many purposes, really). I applied an even thin layer on the middle floor panel. It is pretty easy, but you get the best result if you dust the clay with a little talcum and cover it with some clear plastic bag and roll se the rolling pin on it.
The seven-pointed star was inscribed into the clay and then I punched a mosaic pattern into it with the metal end of a 0,7 mm clutch pencil. That done, I did masonry pattern around the circumference.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptFloorSidePanel1.jpg)
There are seven floor panels which all were inscribed with more or less identical patterns.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptFloorSidePanel2.jpg)
As I wanted the masonry to look old and worn. I have threaded upon enough paving stones in ruins to know they tend to be a bit concave. I achieved this by dipping my pinkie finger in water and rub it in a circular motion in the middle of the larger paving stones to create a shallow indenture. Diverse nicks and cracks were inscribed before the clay hardened.
(http://http:/www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptAllFloorPanels.jpg)
And this is how they fit together. The gaps between the floor panels will of course be filled in when I glue them in place...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptFloorPanelsInPlace.jpg)
And this is how it will come together in the sept.
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Very nice! Great to see progress on this. Really like the touch with the worn down paving stones.
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Oh, yeah, almost forgot...
I have been experimenting with and idea how to clad the spire with copper sheeting.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/SeptVerdigris.jpg)
I bought this roll of copper tape (used to deter snails to get into cultivation boxes). Reading up online you should in theory be able to get a verdigris corrosion on the surface by exposing it to ammonium (nasty stuff!) and sea salt in a sealed container. Well, I am not satisified with this test strip. I think I may be better off painting the effect.
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What a beast :D
You could try a patina kit. Most decent art suppliers should have something suitable. It's been years since I used one (shit, nearly 17 lol).
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The masonry looks great. I agree, paint the tape. Why introduce corrosion into your build when it will probably cause trouble down the line?
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Beautiful work :-*
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As I have talked about previously in this thread I want to have murals on the inner walls of the sept. I completed four of these a couple of years ago and now I have brought them forth again. Here are two of them:
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/HellOfTheMercilessSun.jpg)
The Hell of the Merciless Sun
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/HellOfPerpetualDrowning.jpg)
The Hell of Perpetual Drowning
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/HellOfTheEternalWinter.jpg)
The Hell of Eternal Winter
While I think they look alright, it is not exactly what I saw in my minds eye. I was going for a naive medieval style but ending up using the same style I apply to my miniatures. I have during the last few days made some new attempts and while I have made some progress I am just not skilled enough to make my hand do what my imagination tells it to. So...
Instead I am using the old murals I prepped. They are painted on thin double sided corrugated cardboard covered with a thin layer quick cement (the kind you use to mend cracks in concrete). Why this combination? Well, the cement is fine enough to works well as plastered surface, as would have been used by a westrosi pictor. I picked double sided corrugated cardboard because it is rigid enough not to warp too much as the wet cement dries. Also, after the cemented has dried and the mural has been painted on it, it is fairly easy to separate the two back layers from the painted and up with a thin sheet which you can glue to the wall. Like so...
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/PeelCardboard.jpg)
As I feel off the cardboard layers the painting did not crack att all.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/Clamps.jpg)
The walls onto which I glue the murals are rather uneven, so I used sheets of thin balsa wood and clamps to ensure a good bond.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/AllClamps.jpg)
All the murals squeezed in place.
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/Murals1.jpg)
(http://www.adventuregaming.tsome.com/GoT/Sept/Murals1.jpg)
There, all clams removed and edges trimmed. I will no go on to weather and wear the murals. The colours are too bright so I will most likely airbrush them with a light dusting of light grey. I will probably do make the edges prettier somehow. Cracks and holes need to be chipped away to reveal the brickwork behind. Various washes and pastels should be applied to simulate dust, soot, algae, rain damage and other. I think I can make it look alright.
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Holy crap, if you will excuse the expression. This is the first time I've seen this thread - it's quite something, glad to see you're back on it again.
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Holy crap, if you will excuse the expression. This is the first time I've seen this thread - it's quite something, glad to see you're back on it again.
me too, stunning work
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Looking great, what's the fourth mural? Is it still The Hell of Dragonfires?
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That’s looking great :-*
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Wonderful murals; although they may not have turned out quite as planned they definitely have the illustrative quality about them that religious painting had in the middle ages.
...I think I can make it look alright.
I think it will probably turn out a lot better than just "alright ". ;)
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Looking great, what's the fourth mural? Is it still The Hell of Dragonfires?
Yes.
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I agree they're pretty good.
And better than this stuff:
https://www.eatliver.com/bunny-fights/
https://www.eatliver.com/snail-fights/
https://www.eatliver.com/funny-middle-ages-art/
https://www.eatliver.com/weird-cat-art/
https://www.eatliver.com/medieval-artworks/
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Wonderful murals; although they may not have turned out quite as planned they definitely have the illustrative quality about them that religious painting had in the middle ages. I think it will probably turn out a lot better than just "alright ". ;)
Can't say more! You are doing an awesome job, eagerly waiting for the continuation!
Cheers!
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All ,mural paintings are really nice little pieces of art :-*
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Amazing work, friend!
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Thank you people. For me the fun bits are yet to be dealt with. :)
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Great stuff Peder 8)
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Wow, that is some excellent work there... :-* :-* :-*
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really interesting build. Can't wait to see the finished project.