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Miniatures Adventure => Other Adventures => Topic started by: werekake on March 23, 2016, 02:10:35 AM
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Hi guys, just making a thread (figured the Ancients forum was the closest to this topic) to talk a bit about a set of rules my friend (Lon) and I (Ara) are developing to play at Salute 2016 - which is just a few weeks away! <gulp>
We live in Melbourne, Oz but both of us grew up in Aotearoa/NZ. When Nic from Eureka Miniatures developed a nice range of pre-colonisation Maori figures, we thought we'd develop a set of rules to go along with those figures: i.e a set of pre-colonisation wargame rules which focused on hand-to-hand combat at the skirmish level. Lon came up with the idea of using playing cards for the combat, with clubs as short-weapons (patu) and spades as long-weapons (taiaha/spears).
Here's a video of the combat component of the game, which I did with my (understanding) wife:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ35jXdP_nk
I reckon it's a great set of rules, I love the idea of the cut and thrust of cards in combat. We also realised that not everyone is interested in playing a Maori wargame. So we thought that we would like to play this game in other era's and/or settings which would be considered 'low-tech'- using figures that we already had for other games we like (Vikings, Aztecs, Woodland Indians, Neanderthal, Gladiator etc). We figured that there were some basic common elements to these 'Tribal' sorts of games - affiliation with family/clan/tribe; the importance of honour/mana/face to people; the spirituality of combat; emphasis on ambushes and raids; and the memory of deeds and misdeeds passed on through oral tradition.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eoaeCxEddwQ/VvE8wuOX90I/AAAAAAAAAEY/BDyYVyImFwYgwz5B9Y5fm0YcgSD9OkSXQ/w877-h418-no/P3160055.jpg)
So - we've kinda been developing a set of rules to encompass the different periods, with army-specific rules (eg: Flowers Wars for Aztecs; The Haka for Maori; Shieldwall for Vikings etc).
We'll see how these rules go but, for the moment, our focus is on Salute! We'll be running a small game - just across from the Eureka stand. The game will be a Maori raid on a beachside pa (village-stockade), up where my iwi (tribe) are from - near Kerikeri in Northern NZ. We're frantically trying to get terrain and bits n pieces finished, before we fly out to London in 3 weeks time. Check out our Facebook page to follow updates on terrain, and some interesting videos on combat/warfare across many tribal cultures around the world:
https://www.facebook.com/tribalgame/
Come along and say hello, would be glad to chat to people about Maori culture and Maori warfare (or All Blacks rugby). Have a go at a round of combat, or come and get involved in a full Maori raid.
Win a round of combat and Nic at the Eureka Stand will also give you a free maori figure! ;)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Bxxt-Sge9I4/VvE9c6f_CgI/AAAAAAAAAE0/dlRzrURg1iYuJ3vREHWi18QejFq9P0lhA/w878-h659-no/p70316.jpg)
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I'd love a good set of rules for these periods that I could use for stone age combat. I look forward to their release.
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Cheers! I've enjoyed playing a few prehistoric Tribal games using my Warlord/Lucid-eye/Save-Core Neanderthals, absolutely gorgeous miniatures...
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That looks good. I take it the idea is for a skirmishing game.
I knew I kept those Maori and Islander figures for some reason! ;)
Now to get the Pa structures that are around somewhere as well as sourcing canoes etc.
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Having played a version of these rules I can say they are a lot of fun and there's a fair bit of bluff needed with your tactics.
The core need to protect and gain honour/mana/face also makes you think differently than any other wargame I've played before.
If you're at Salute I encourage you to give it a go (you can get a good feel for the game in 15-30 minutes).
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I've lucky enough to get a sneak peek and the rules look rather good, looking forward to giving them a bash
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@poiter50 - Islander figures? What have you got? I'd love to game Tongans v Samoans v Fijians - especially Tongan invasions of Fiji.
In terms of canoes, I'm working with Mike Parker at Battlefield accessories to make a the waka taua (maori war canoe) with his laser cutter, kind of like this particular model I saw in a souvenir shop in Auckland.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-14vGoULrkHo/VvMjCjIrIvI/AAAAAAAAAGA/eHRHnwCXAyoEmEcf1dwHsmaHL_EAtOCzg/w878-h267-no/2014-12-23%2B10.14.39.jpg)
I've started carving out a hull - will work on carvings for stern and prow.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wv50MC0bbWc/VvMivZRpxpI/AAAAAAAAAGA/F9_I1sKswi0xRAJa-pCoJQGmO-uMh76Wg/w878-h494-no/33415.jpeg)
We'll see how we go in the next couple of weeks...
@Von Lucky and LowTarDog, thanks for the kind words guys - glad you like the rules. We haven't had a game yet Von Lucky... you haven't witnessed my awful 'bluff' face. :o
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I need to dig them out from my "vault"/storage area. I think there are about a dozen Maoris and perhaps 30 or Hawaians.
I have a very small scale card Maori canoe that I bought some years back and put on the backburner when my Kiwi friend who was enthused moved back to the land of the Long White Cloud. He is back in Christchurch now but living out of the city.
yes, Mike's work would be ideal for that kind of carved effect.
Slightly OTT but I just picked this up at our local Pet store.
http://www.aquaone.com.au/2015-04-16-04-47-04/decoration/ornaments/item/3307-36764?highlight=WyJ0aGFpIiwic2hyaW5lIl0=
@poiter50 - Islander figures? What have you got? I'd love to game Tongans v Samoans v Fijians - especially Tongan invasions of Fiji.
In terms of canoes, I'm working with Mike Parker at Battlefield accessories to make a the waka taua (maori war canoe) with his laser cutter, kind of like this particular model I saw in a souvenir shop in Auckland.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-14vGoULrkHo/VvMjCjIrIvI/AAAAAAAAAGA/eHRHnwCXAyoEmEcf1dwHsmaHL_EAtOCzg/w878-h267-no/2014-12-23%2B10.14.39.jpg)
I've started carving out a hull - will work on carvings for stern and prow.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wv50MC0bbWc/VvMivZRpxpI/AAAAAAAAAGA/F9_I1sKswi0xRAJa-pCoJQGmO-uMh76Wg/w878-h494-no/33415.jpeg)
We'll see how we go in the next couple of weeks...
@Von Lucky and LowTarDog, thanks for the kind words guys - glad you like the rules. We haven't had a game yet Von Lucky... you haven't witnessed my awful 'bluff' face. :o
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I had fun in the early play testing of the system. The use of a deck of cards for EVERYTHING in the game is very clever. Measuring range, determining initiative and the feel that the warriors are feigning strikes to draw out their opponents good moves before bring home an attack..all with cards.
Of course it means you guys are going to need to produce some custom decks for these rules.
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Freelancer - I believe the idea for short and long movement via the card edges was yours and Scott's idea. Not needing to bring a tape-measure is good. Thanks!
Poiter50 - Thai tower??? Hoo-boy, don't get me started on SE Asia. I know Freelancer is interested in ancient Thai armies - probably b/c he likes elephants. ;) I'm interested in the Cham and Khmer kingdoms, primarily in Vietnam. Von Lucky is interested in everything - including Burmese and Khmer. I know there were lots of skirmish border raids on settlements throughout the region in the 12th to 14th centuries... I don't see why we couldn't utilise the Tribal rules for these types of games as well.
I was in Saigon/HCMC in January - went to the National Museum and took lotsa fotos of the prehistoric, Cham and Khmer displays. Would be great to cover this period/region in more detail - it's just hard to find substantial/reliable info on it...
some fotos I took (with security guards following me around)
prehistoric weapons
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bxbb3s3GQTU/VvcTyO34IyI/AAAAAAAAEZY/wH5bw8nKv4g13yhh-HpHODu5crqgu1a6g/w878-h494-no/20160128_102513.jpg)
cham battle
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oEJlMtsq5KQ/VvcTq3ZdcwI/AAAAAAAAEY4/1ICkAlV03cohkhCK5Kvrt75Xxx9xgIAQQ/w878-h494-no/20160128_103344.jpg)
garuda
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e0dfChNILrQ/VvcTk48GCjI/AAAAAAAAEaI/lqjhKJdkKOgbOJqfjymKOIs0vbz4GV4ew/w419-h744-no/20160128_103744.jpg)
...and back to our Salute game. Work on the terrain board continues! This is the whare (house/s) that we have for the pa on the battlefield. The roof is brushed down teddy bear fur with pva glue and then varnish.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CecUyyyWwAAQGX3.jpg)
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Preparations continue at a rapid pace!
We have the board prepared now, 4 tiles to make a 3ft by 3ft board:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeyDF8mWsAAIHQz.jpg)
The tiles fit snugly in a suitcase for the 24 hours flight to London:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfR1ZSfUYAAzBic.jpg)
Mike from Battlefield Accessories has done a fantastic job on making some waka-taua (war canoes) for the game.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHfdFgUAAAUoMJ.jpg)
...and our friend Peter from Twisted (http://www.dementedgames.com/) has helped us put together a rulebook for our game. Just a basic set of our rules, with special rules for tribal periods/genres that interest us: Maori, Aztecs, Vikings, Gladiators, Heian-Japan, Iroquois and Stone Age. We'll see if we can bring a copy to Salute.
Talking of Stone Age/Cave-Wars, we've been enjoying playing Far Cry Primal... is there much interest in Cave Wars skirmishing? I'm trying to convince Nic at Eureka that there's a market out there for (more) Stone Age miniatures. ;)
Check out further developments at: https://www.facebook.com/tribalgame/
We'll probably also cover our wargame-geek's trip around the UK after Salute.
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Oar-some.
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I'm interested in stone age gaming (some may say that's what we do out at Berwick anyway) and would probably grab a few figures is Eureka did some. I've been eyeing off their Neanderthals for years. I do have Steve Barber's Prehistoric Settlement set and a few extras, enough for about 3 tribes, so I really don't need any more. But, you know...
I do want some of those Maori canoes though. Run off another three would you, Mike?
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Hey iceaxe, Mike and I are trying to work out who you are! A wargamer in Berwick... are you Peter?
Mike can do three canoes easy peasy - he's worked out a way of mass-producing them.
Thanks for pointing out the Eureka neanderthals - Nic didn't mention them. He did point to these particular stone-age figures (shadowforge) which didn't really interest me ::)
(http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fax100.jpg)
Interesting about the Steve Barber stuff... those Mammoths especially... I should check around and see what else is out there.
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Try DeeZee Miniatures through Arcane Scenery, they may be at Salute.
Hey iceaxe, Mike and I are trying to work out who you are! A wargamer in Berwick... are you Peter?
Mike can do three canoes easy peasy - he's worked out a way of mass-producing them.
Thanks for pointing out the Eureka neanderthals - Nic didn't mention them. He did point to these particular stone-age figures (shadowforge) which didn't really interest me ::)
(http://eurekamin.com.au/images/shadowforge/1fax100.jpg)
Interesting about the Steve Barber stuff... those Mammoths especially... I should check around and see what else is out there.
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That Mammoth herd looks tempting!
http://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/shop/deezee-miniatures-mammoth-herd-28mm-wargames/ (http://arcanesceneryandmodels.co.uk/shop/deezee-miniatures-mammoth-herd-28mm-wargames/)
Looks like they'll be at Salute.
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Steve is a lovely guy, met him last year in the infamous Nottingham Mafia enclave.
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I'm interested in stone age gaming (some may say that's what we do out at Berwick anyway) and would probably grab a few figures is Eureka did some. I've been eyeing off their Neanderthals for years. I do have Steve Barber's Prehistoric Settlement set and a few extras, enough for about 3 tribes, so I really don't need any more. But, you know...
I do want some of those Maori canoes though. Run off another three would you, Mike?
I ordered those rules and some lucid eye models to start my stone age collection.
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Werekake,
So I'm unidentifiable? Good, I shall remain a mystery, until the canoes arrive at Berwick or Eureka. Or Little Wars. But no, not Peter.
I have also picked up 2 or 3 mammoths of the sort you find in toy stores or museum gift shops, can't recall where, but I think they're better than Barber's (sorry Steve), pretty much the same size. The Prehistoric Settlement game is good fun, like the early Age of Empires on the tabletop. Haven't got to Primal yet (still working through Far Cry 4) but I suspect not quite the same. I have the two expansions, too, which are pretty good. I got the boxed set years ago, my figures aren't dressed for the colder climate and the mammoth has a family now, I see. There was also a lot of resin scenery - it was a wonderful set!
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iceaxe - We'll work it out! There can't be that many wargamers in Berwick. ;) Far Cry Primal is... different... from the others. Kudos to the designers - I think they made a great game in a genre that is hard to do for a fps. Some interesting mechanics in there re:tribal warfare. Mammoth figures? I think my heart's set on those arcane scenery ones...
racm32 - Yeah, I bought the Lucid Eye figures as well. Neanderthals for me, and my friend has Cromagnons. Lovely lovely figures.
I'd like to see some more stuff out there - give a 'tribal' variation to figures... Maybe a Clan of the Cave-Bear/Wolves/Big-Cats etc. Maybe some Denisovans that reflect the tribal populations of Australasia/Melanesia?
(http://meta-gaia.angelfire.com/denisovan_dna_map.jpg)
And back to the Maori game at Salute! Have finished the gates of the Pa (maori settlement).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfaUdenVIAEdRn8.jpg)
Just about time to start packing - fly out Wednesday!
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Have you seen the Pulp Figures ranges? Two would apply, the Melanesian Island Warriorsin the PSS range - as well as the Volcano Queen, I just noticed - and the Lost Tribes (I think), which is here http://pulpfigures.com/products/category/15 but unavailable at present. Some useful stuff in there. I have a lot of Bob's figures & the paint just seems to take to them.
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iceaxe - Yeah, those would work really well for Papuans & Fijians... maybe Vanuatu... hmmm, might have to get a set. The warclubs are nicely done. I quite like the masked magician/shaman in the Volcano Queen set, and the totem/statue.
I've done a print run of fliers/handouts for Salute, as well as a tiny print-run of the rules. For anyone at Salute, come and have a chat with us, we're right across from Eureka in the far corner, and I'll be glad to give you a handout - has a starter set of rules and a Maori raid scenario in it. Have a chat with Nic if you'd like the rulebook.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfgdKR3WEAECXrb.jpg)
One week to go! ;D
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Okay, last minute rebasing done.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfrZrDBUMAADyfo.jpg)
Packed everything away, and printed out my copy of the Salute map - will be checking out quite a few traders' stalls methinks. ;)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfzyj2BUMAET2fU.jpg)
Flying out today, Salute in just a few days!
My mate and I will be travelling around the UK afterwards - up to Nottingham to see WH world and Foundry, stay in Bamburgh for a few days, check out the Arbeia roman fort in South Shields, and then going to the Royal Armouries Games Expo, before heading to Hastings/Portsmouth for more wargaming related activities. Will be posting lotsa pics on our tribal facebook page, if anyone's interested.
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Wishing you the best of luck guys, will be sure to follow your photos and updates on the Facebook page at:
https://www.facebook.com/tribalgame/
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This was easily my stand out game at Salute, invested in the whole lot after just one test round! Now been busy reading up as much about Maori culture as I can...
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I'll be investing soon but need to find a UK stockist..waiting to hear from Fighting 15's
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Awesome! Glad you guys enjoyed the game so much! I think it's a great game too, especially the combat, and I'm always happy to share Maori culture with people.
It was a Looong flight to get to Salute but we got there in the end and we had a freaking fantastic time. We were like kids in a candy shop, checking everything out and meeting lots of like minded wargamers.
Lon and I have been travelling around England since Salute doing lots of wargaming related things. Drove to Nottingham and met Bryan Ansell at Foundry; bought a pint at Bugman's Brewery at Warhammer world; hung out with the lovely people at Warlord Games; drove to Bamburgh and checked out Roman forts and met Alan Marsh (sculptor) at Newcastle; met Tony Barton (another sculptor) in York who gave us a tour of the city; played some HYW at the Royal Armouries in Leeds yesterday (fantastic day, I'd highly recommend it for the friendly games AND the museum); met the Perry Twins and went all fanboy-shy... :)
In Hastings now, will check out battlefield today (research for big game later this year) and then visit mate in Ashford for a game of 6mm moderns. Fly back home tomorrow!
Re:Tribal, I only had a limited print run of rulebooks which I brought to Salute and we sold out of (I wasn't sure people would be interested) . When I get home I'll be uploading the pdf via online for purchase , and we'll be doing another print run of the rulebook. Will try and send out via fighting 15's and Eureka US, or just throw me a message /email and I'll sort you out. Cheers!
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Just bought the rules on WV - please release an ink friendly version at some point - I'll have to get Staples to print these for me if I cannot manage with the PDF on screen.
I'm going to try 15mm Inuit skirmish and will have to make up rules for sleds / Shamans and the odd animal or two lol I may use measuring sticks rather than cards for movement due to the size of figures leaping around the board at breakneck speeds.
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There are mini playing cards available (I got a couple of packs last time I was in Vegas). But yes - here's another one waiting for the print version.
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@Von Lucky - I'd sell you the single print copy I have left, but I promised it to my mum! :) I'd be interested to see the small printed cards...
@AndrewBeasley - Ink friendly version, I could ask my printer to look at doing this. For the book(let), we printed on A3 sheets and used 'camelback binding'? (I presume this means he folded and stapled down the middle). I could ask him to provide a pdf which would allow downloaders to do likewise?
In terms of WV - I'm trying to work out how we can provide free updates to current purchasers (updated rules, faq's, print-friendly versions, discounts for future supplements etc), hopefully I'll get it sorted soon...
15mm Inuits sound fascinating - please post some pics when you get the time, would love to see it. I must admit I don't know much about them, I know they fought the Cree a fair bit. And there's a chapter on Cree-Inuit warfare in the Hudson Bay area, from a book titled North American Indigenous Warfare and Ritual Violence (which I can't seem to get my hands on).
I'd loooove to see what you come up with for Shamans and sleds. One of the MAJOR fun elements of this ruleset is that we seem to be able to come up with all sorts of special rules from the card-mechanics etc. For example, Magic is something we are puttering around with at the moment...
When I can get a webite setup, I'd like to have a forum as part of it where players can discuss their own cultural/historical interests, and where new rules-ideas/force-lists could be discussed and playtested.
In the meantime, enjoy the game! ;)
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Thanks for the reply.
My printer will do a booklet on A4 paper giving me an A5 sized set of rules. Looking at the pages it would help just to take the background brown out :)
I'll have a look at the Cree wars - I did find this http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/blog/posting.asp?ID=434 that notes Vikings lost to the Inuit...
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A bit late to the party here, but is this Tribal from Mana Press?
I saw an advert for it on the Wargames News blog and mighty intrigued. Unfortunately I'm travelling with work and the site seems to be blocked so I'll have to wait until I'm home.
From the chat here it looks like something I'd be very interested in reading at any rate!
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A bit late to the party here, but is this Tribal from Mana Press?
I saw an advert for it on the Wargames News blog and mighty intrigued. Unfortunately I'm travelling with work and the site seems to be blocked so I'll have to wait until I'm home.
From the chat here it looks like something I'd be very interested in reading at any rate!
Thinks that's the one mentionned here and on my blog ;)
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Andrew - thanks for the feedback. I'll have a chat with our graphic designer and try and get a print-friendly copy on Wargame Vault for download. Will let people know on here when it gets done...
Mr Brown - thanks for your interest. I like to think that, even if the rules don't grab you, there's enough reading material in there to - at least - pique the wargamer's appetite for some new genres/periods.
Belgian - can always trust you to have comprehensive coverage of everything happening out there!
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Belgian - can always trust you to have comprehensive coverage of everything happening out there!
Thanks doing our best ;)
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For Māori pa palisades and structures, you could consider 3D printing. My mate Matt Barker at Printable Scenery here in Paraparaumu (NZ) sells a range of 3D printing files that would be perfect for this period. You just need access to a 3D printer at your end to print them out: http://www.printablescenery.com/5-historic (http://www.printablescenery.com/5-historic)
Here is a blog posting about the Māori pa that Matt printed out and I painted: https://arteis.wordpress.com/2015/03/11/worlds-first-3d-printed-maori-pa-completed/ (https://arteis.wordpress.com/2015/03/11/worlds-first-3d-printed-maori-pa-completed/)
Sample pics from that blog:
(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/maori-pa001.jpg)
(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/maori-pa033.jpg)
(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/maori-pa-arial-view.jpg)
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Wow!
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Just saw the rules advertised on my Wargames Vault newsletter and downloaded a copy.
First off, excellent concept! The Honour model could be applied to tribal warfare in many if not most locations and the scenarios are certainly applicable on any continent. The mechanisms are novel and will provide some challenging gameplay, different from the D6 based norm.
Next - brilliant cover art and the drawings and layout inside are fantastic too. I'd love to see a full glossy version of this - I'd buy it too. I think it's up there with the likes of Saga and Muskets and Tomahawks in terms of quality.
I think I'll take a look at gaming this from an early bronze age perspective, but it could also cover early Dark ages too. Hmmm.....does anyone do a Grendel??
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@Emir - wow, thanks for your thoughts! Most gratifying to see gamers appreciate where we're coming from with Tribal - particularly a conceptual shift towards honour and cards as gaming mechanisms. I'm glad you like my drawings in the rulebook as well - I'll have to do some more. If you like the overall graphic design of the game, the graphic designer and cover-artist have also been working on a 32mm Dickensian steampunk game called Twisted. http://www.dementedgames.com/
The printed copies did turn out very nice. We brought some with us to Salute, but we sold out unfortunately... We're currently trying to get another print-run done soon-ish. Nic Robson from Eureka Miniatures will have some copies, soon-ish, so feel free to email him: nicr@eurekamin.com.au
Incidentally, Nic has also done a 28mm Beowulf range which is quite nice... and I seem to remember he had a Grendel in there as well.
Long-term, we're looking to release a couple of supplements on pdf in the coming year - one covering Stone Age/Cave Wars with generic rules for running Tribal campaigns; and the other looking at Modern Riots/Gang-wars, with generic rules for solo-play.
What we would REALLY like to do is come back to Salute next year (we really enjoyed coming this year), with a big fat compilation hard-cover book to sell - including the original rules, the supplements, and further 'fan-built' army-lists and histories. eg Bronze Age/Homeric Greeks; Pacific Islands; Picts; Border Reivers; etc etc. We'll see how things go...
@Arteis The pa looks great. I'm wondering about the carvings though... have the details deliberately been avoided due to maori sensitivities? This is understandable, I suppose, but I reckon the gate and whare-panels need kowhaiwhai/tiki's etc... maybe I can try paint them on... Nevertheless, I MUST have this stockade - particularly the walls, given my attempt at making some didn't last very long... I've gone to download them, but I'm not entirely sure which ones I should get. If I wanted a BIG pa, 28mm scale, which models should I get? The maori pa stockade 2.0? or Tribal Stockade Large 2.2? http://www.printablescenery.com/home/114-tribalstockade-regular-v01.html
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@ Werekake You are dead right about the carvings. I think there was a sense of not wanting to inadvertently stand on a specific iwi's foot - so the solution was to do something very vague. The designer is an Indian guy, and I'm told he wanted elephants on top of the posts, but was fortunately discouraged from that ;-)
However, it might be worth talking to Matt before you purchase, as with some expert input on design (which it sounds like you could perhaps supply), they may be able to adapt the gate and meeting house files.
As for which ones to buy, remember that you are not buying models, but files that you can print off as much as you like. So the size of your pa is only limited by how many you print!
On my pa I have got three fence sizes, plus two styles of building, and of course the gate. Overall I think the largest fence size is quite high for 28mm, so if I was just getting one fence size, I would go for the medium one (two bars, as shown in the pic below). I also sawed down the legs of the gateway a bit, as I felt too it looked too big.
(https://arteis.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/img_3665.jpg)
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This little video of the Printable Scenery pa might give you a better idea of the way the various sized fences work:
https://www.instagram.com/p/0HdBIjupHK/?taken-by=printablescenery (https://www.instagram.com/p/0HdBIjupHK/?taken-by=printablescenery)
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OKay, finally got around to ordering everything I wanted - got the stockades, huts, gate and pa carving. Nice and easy to order with paypal. I got a friend with a 3-D printer so will start getting stuff made.
I also ordered some extra stuff... the dungeon tile set was too good to miss out on!
Arteis - Thanks for the help and advice, convinced me to get these. happy to help out with carvings advice. I'll have a look at the models I get printed, and see what could work...
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Big thank you for the printer friendly version. I've just downloaded it from Wargames Vault F.O.C. :D
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Oh awesome - I wasn't sure if I'd uploaded it correctly to Wargamevault. Thanks for that!
F.O.C all the way! Seems only right if you ordered the 'fancy' version. In fact, if people have the printed rulebook, just contact me and I'll be happy to email them the print-friendly pdf.
On further developments... talk has started on sculpting Hawaiians. Chiefs, Kahunas, Koa and pike-warriors. I'm really wanting this guy to get done:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fvSSLy0eIhA/TP1lYvVqYqI/AAAAAAAAAmE/SU4LiHkpdyQ/s1600/Kahekili+Maui+Chief.jpg)
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Can we get a Kaʻanoʻi Kamakawiwoʻole with traditional short weapon (that may or may not look like a ukulele)?
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On a slightly different tact I shall be running a Late Roman/German game in a week or so. Just finishing off the Warband at the moment.
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Your mate Viv over at Knights of Dice has been talking about your game a fair bit and I'm now intrigued. :)
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Von Lucky - I don't think Israel would count as 'ancient hawaiian'. A 28mm figure in hawaiian shirt w/ ukelele would be cool, though!
Emir - cool, be interested to hear how late-romans vs germans goes. Would tribal-level honour work in the same way for Romans, you think?
Huppnatem - yeah Viv's videos have been really good for promoting the game to people. I'm trying to get him to come up with some rules for his ancestors in the Northern Indian tribes! We'll be doing a gameplay video, sometime soon hopefully... In the meantime, we'll all be at Little Wars Melbourne this Sunday. If you're in Melbourne/Victoria, come along and have a game!
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