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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Timbor on March 26, 2016, 04:00:49 AM

Title: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Timbor on March 26, 2016, 04:00:49 AM
Ok, more food for thought or gaming ideas, but this article was really cool:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/slaughter-bridge-uncovering-colossal-bronze-age-battle

Basically, there is a site in Germany in which they have unearthed evidence of a pitched battle in the Bronze Age, when northern Europe was largely considered an unimportant backwater.

Would be a fun period to see on a gaming table!  Worth the read just to imagine that.  I thought there was an "Ancients News" thread like in the medieval board, but could not find one to post this in...  ;)
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Sunjester on March 26, 2016, 07:55:01 AM
Thanks for posting this, very interesting. It would be a cool period to game, but I don't know where you would get suitable figures! ???
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Mosstrooper on March 26, 2016, 08:41:50 AM
Foundry do a range of Northern European Bronze Age figures
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on March 26, 2016, 10:06:14 AM
Don't go by the pictures in that article; those chaps look crudely Neolithic (at best). Foundry's indeed your best bet for recreating said period in wargames.

Besides, Northern Europe was by no means "an unimportant backwater" back then. Even if some of the more recent finds at Bernstorf are doubtful, archaeology has long established the existence of trade routes, in particular across the Baltic Sea area, providing amber and metalwork for a Mediterranean market. There were walled cities (if made of more readily available wood), supra-regional religious centres, and by migration or cultural transfer people from Northern Europe had a considerable influence on Archaic Greek culture. It's a fascinating if sadly neglected period.
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: soldat on March 26, 2016, 12:59:28 PM
Yeah I saw this article and my first thought was new war game.  Sounds like an era that needs research and a shoddy movie to drum up interest.
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Sunjester on March 26, 2016, 01:42:59 PM
Don't go by the pictures in that article; those chaps look crudely Neolithic (at best). Foundry's indeed your best bet for recreating said period in wargames.

My thought on seeing those pictures was "Why must they do that?" Untrimmed animal skins for clothing. Reasonably sophisticated weaving existed in Europe from the mid-Neolithic at least and by the Bronze Age would have been pretty universal. Certainly furs and animal skins would have been used as supplementary clothing, particularly for cold weather, but good quality fabric would have been the norm. Either wool or vegitable fibres like flax and nettle.
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on March 26, 2016, 02:43:58 PM
Excellent post. Thanks for sharing that Timbor

There's a load online about the "Nordic" Bronze Age. Weapons and textiles have been found which are way more sophisticated than the Stone Age drawing shown here

http://www.crumbleholme.plus.com/Beakerfolk/cloth/beakerfolkcloth.htm

Wikipedia is a good start, just follow your nose. For figures it has to be Foundry
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: mikeygees on March 26, 2016, 03:15:17 PM
Excellent link. Thank you.
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: commissarmoody on March 31, 2016, 03:32:19 PM
Very cool
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: fantail on March 31, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
Thanks for the link, very interesting. Monolith/Graven Images do a range of 40mm Bronze age Europeans. It is a shame that they had to stop excavating due to lack of money when Adam Sandler is given $88 million to make terrible films like Pixels.
Andrew
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Ragnar on April 02, 2016, 01:16:03 AM
Very interesting read, thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Mass battles in Bronze Age Europe
Post by: Lt. Hazel on April 02, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Very intresting!