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Title: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on April 19, 2016, 03:41:00 PM
It’s been quite a while since I painted miniatures for anything other than board games.  I’m trying to rekindle my love for the hobby, and am desperately trying to find or start a group of likeminded players in my area.  I’ve decided that the best fantasy games currently available and “active” to recruit players are Songs of Blades and Heroes (for quick skirmish battles with few miniatures) and Dragon Rampant (for a more “mass” battle feel, but at a more reasonable entry cost and commitment).

I’ve always been a fan of the look of “old school” miniatures.  I don’t much care for all the dramatic poses, ultra detail, and “dark” overtones of most modern miniatures. 

One of my favorite miniature companies has always been Irregular miniatures.  I really enjoy the functional simplicity of the models, and they are a joy to paint.  There must have been a hundred times I contemplated their fantasy line…especially the goblins, but with pictures on the website like this…

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/25mm_F14_zpsbynrawjl.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/25mm_F14_zpsbynrawjl.jpg.html)

…that make the models look like shapeless blobs has kept me from taking the plunge (despite having similar misgivings with Irregular Miniature figures before and finding my worries unfounded).  Searching online found absolutely no images of people who purchased and painted these figures, so I’m guessing other potential customers are similarly leery about investing in Irregular Goblins (or the fantasy line in general).  In any case, since I decided I wanted to have a unique look when building my new goblin army (I should mention I do have over 10,000 points of Warhamer goblins, ha ha) so I ordered a few sample models.

Below are pictures of my painted results.  As usual, they painted up great, and look better than I expected.  I’m ordering many more to fill out units and do conversions (perhaps I’ll add to this thread when they arrive).

I know I’m not the greatest painter on the planet, but my goal is a little different than many peoples.  I like to make my paint jobs look as old school as the models, rather than try to give a “good paint job” to a “poor sculpt” and create some kind of work of art.  I think I succeeded, am very happy with the results, and can’t wait to get started on the next wave of goblins.  Of course, I have a huge pile of Dwarves, Elves, and undead to work on while I’m waiting.

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/P1050341_zpsj8hc57tk.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/P1050341_zpsj8hc57tk.jpg.html)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/P1050342_zpsyzs182or.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/P1050342_zpsyzs182or.jpg.html)
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: sukhe_bator on April 19, 2016, 03:52:02 PM
These are not my cup of tea but my experience of Irregular 15mm minis echoes grubmans. On the whole they do paint up a whole lot better than they look on their website and take conversion well...
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: rob_alderman on April 19, 2016, 10:06:47 PM
There is a special place in my heart for Irregular...

Some of the first non-GW models I bought were 15mm Dwarves for HOTT. In reality, they were more like 20mm and they are not really good models, but I was a kid and thought they were ace!

28mm pushes it I think. There are so many things I would want to resculpt on these... Why is that goblin wearing his shield round his neck?!
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: Elbows on April 19, 2016, 10:36:54 PM
Ugh...those look...rough.   :?  I don't the paint, I mean the miniatures.  :`
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on April 19, 2016, 11:51:04 PM
28mm pushes it I think. There are so many things I would want to resculpt on these... Why is that goblin wearing his shield round his neck?!

To keep his ears from getting sunburnt, of course! ;)

I got some Dwarves and Elves and they look pretty good.  I'll be mixing those with a handful of old Metal Magic miniatures (via the now defunct Megaminiatures)  I like a lot of Irregulars standard medieval lines, so there is plenty of variety available for humans (I'm probably going to go late "dark" ages, since I've painted up their Vikings and found them just as enjoyable to paint.)

Ugh...those look...rough.   :?  I don't the paint, I mean the miniatures.  :`

They do...for me that's part of the charm.  I guess I'm just goofy.  I look at most new (GW clone) miniatures these days with all that jewelry, pouches, excessively large and complex armor and weapons carved with runes, and grim facial expressions and I think they are ugly as sin (I know I'm in the minority).

I should also mention, those are close up shots, they look a lot better on the tabletop.  Once I get my next order painted up, I'll take some tabletop unit shots.
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on April 20, 2016, 02:58:52 AM
I was asked about scale comparison on another forum...so since I took the picture.

1/72 models, Irregular Goblin, GW 5th edition conversion.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/P1050345_zpstpfri0tv.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/P1050345_zpstpfri0tv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: Hobgoblin on April 20, 2016, 02:22:04 PM
I like them. I can see how they could be used to get something like the effect of Ralph Bakshi's orcs - all eyes and fangs gleaming in darkness.

That smaller scale photo you posted gives an inkling of how they'd look on the battlefied.

One thought: have you considered giving the armour and weapons a couple of washes of brown and black ink (and maybe even some chestnut or sepia bits here and there)? I think that might give a nicely grungy effect that would suit the figures.
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on April 20, 2016, 07:51:49 PM
One thought: have you considered giving the armour and weapons a couple of washes of brown and black ink (and maybe even some chestnut or sepia bits here and there)? I think that might give a nicely grungy effect that would suit the figures.

I did consider it before painting them.  When they were done the thought didn't occur to me again...I guess because I was sort of tickled by the way they came out (must have gone into the art room a dozen times that night just to take a look sat them).  Maybe I'll try it on the next batch for a bit of contrast.
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: Samnite308 on April 22, 2016, 10:08:57 AM
Ive never bought any Irregular fantasy but they had a great range of random ancient and medieval civilians and animals to use for villagers, extras etc.  Fairly cheap too!
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on May 05, 2016, 01:49:40 AM
So, I got more Irregular goblins a few days ago and have been picking away at them when I get the chance.  So far I’ve added a troll to the mix (with some slight modifications) and 3 wolf riders (2 normal and 1 conversion).

I also painted a (mostly) Irregular Miniatures Dwarf Warband for Songs of Blades & Heroes…but those aren’t goblins. :)

I have a huge pile of “lead” to paint.

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/P1050347_zpsnirwjtu7.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/P1050347_zpsnirwjtu7.jpg.html)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/P1050356_zpsw5mjacng.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/P1050356_zpsw5mjacng.jpg.html)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/P1050355_zps6ew8urdl.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/P1050355_zps6ew8urdl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: Hobgoblin on May 05, 2016, 10:38:38 AM
I love the colour scheme on the troll!

These are looking great. As you'll be repeating models a lot, have you thought about varying the skin colours at all? I'm thinking about the cover to Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, where there's a black goblin in among the green ones. These Irregular goblins could look really good in black - a bit like this:
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: sukhe_bator on May 05, 2016, 10:55:51 AM
Ah the Ralph Bakshi Lord of the Rings
These Irregular goblins could look really good in black - a bit like this:
Ah.... the Ralph Bakshi 'Lord of the Rings' film orcs! :-* :-* :-*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_(1978_film)
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on May 05, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
I love the colour scheme on the troll!

These are looking great. As you'll be repeating models a lot, have you thought about varying the skin colours at all? I'm thinking about the cover to Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, where there's a black goblin in among the green ones. These Irregular goblins could look really good in black - a bit like this:

I have den reading WFB 1st edition and considering red and nighr goblins.  I figure if I have to find players and teach them a game anyway, the sky is the limit.  1st ed. has a lot of charm and is "generic".  Of course i've been looking at a few other old school rule sets.
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: Mister Rab on May 05, 2016, 07:53:18 PM
So that's where my "goofy troll" comes from - Irregular! I have him with an axe and shield. If you'd like him for the cost of postage (I'm in the UK), then he's yours. I won't ever love him, but I get the feeling you might  lol

PM me if interested.
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on May 06, 2016, 02:52:15 AM
So that's where my "goofy troll" comes from - Irregular! I have him with an axe and shield. If you'd like him for the cost of postage (I'm in the UK), then he's yours. I won't ever love him, but I get the feeling you might  lol

PM me if interested.

Thanks, but the price of shipping would probably be more than the $1.72 (USD) I paid for him from Irregular.  That's a big chunk of metal for less than 2 dollars :)
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: NurgleHH on May 06, 2016, 07:02:54 AM
Sometimes it is good, when old school stays old and gone. These miniatures cannot be rescued with a brilliant paintwork. They are too rough. Absolute for hardcore fans.
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: Mister Rab on May 06, 2016, 09:06:46 AM
Thanks, but the price of shipping would probably be more than the $1.72 (USD) I paid for him from Irregular.  That's a big chunk of metal for less than 2 dollars :)

Ah, hadn't processed that you were state-side. Maybe I'll tackle him one day...
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on May 06, 2016, 11:24:28 AM
Sometimes it is good, when old school stays old and gone. These miniatures cannot be rescued with a brilliant paintwork. They are too rough. Absolute for hardcore fans.

Well, I guess being active in this hobby for over 35 years hasn't made me a "hardcore fan", because I absolutely love them.  Different strokes for different folks. :)
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: NurgleHH on May 06, 2016, 04:41:50 PM
Well, I guess being active in this hobby for over 35 years hasn't made me a "hardcore fan", because I absolutely love them.  Different strokes for different folks. :)
You are absolute right. I started in the 80ies and was lucky with very awful 28mm figures. So maybe I became a snob... ;)
Title: Re: [Kicking it old school] Irregular Miniature Goblins
Post by: grubman on May 09, 2016, 02:11:36 PM
I absolutely love how the chariot turned out...unfortunately I haven't been able to take any pictures that do it justice (so I gave up).  It looks much cooler "in person".

The Irregular Chariot only comes with 2 crew.  The standard bearer is a minor conversion goblin I added.  The standard is my first attempt at sculpting something with Miliput...I know, real impressive! ;)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s182/grubman/Chariot%20double_zps7wqcxshn.jpg) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/grubman/media/Chariot%20double_zps7wqcxshn.jpg.html)