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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Elladan on January 05, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
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Hello,
I just started a new project that might be of some interest for some of you. This is my first post in this forum and I thought it might be a good idea to do some kind of Step-by-Step topic. I will post some pictures that show my progress. Much more pictures and some infos can be found on my homepage.
The sketch
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1528.JPG)
The first cutted walls out of balsa foam
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1387.JPG)
The finished walls; the brickwork and damages are done by carving in the soft balsa foam, the plaster is done with a mix of plaster, woodglue and fine sand
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1523.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1524.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1525.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1526.JPG)
The cast walls with windows and door; the walls are casted with a class 4 grey dental plaster and the windows and door in resin - all in self made silicon molds
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1517.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1518.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1514.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1515.JPG)
To be continued ....
More pictures of this project can be found here:http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/032.htm (http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/032.htm)
My WIP about the windows, doors and shutters can be found here: http://www.elladan.de/030%20Windows/030.htm (http://www.elladan.de/030%20Windows/030.htm)
Ciao
Elmar
http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
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Excellent model - very well done.
Would be great to see one of the casts painted, and in a finished scenic setting with rubble, broken timbers and so on.
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Hallo Elmar!
You are starting to bore me, my friend. Nothing I want to criticise, an annoying desire to get my hands on this house as well... You really have to change your ways! :D ;D
Seriously... Stunning work as usual. I am glad you are still building lovely scenery!
Cheers,
Demetrios
EDIT... Is this the DUST Walker I see in the background? :D
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very nice work and Ah I see the first Door ! I need some ;)
cheers grimm
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Great first post! I just want to say that i am a HUGE fan of your work! ;D I can't wait to see more!
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Very nice! They are really great!
Olivier
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Great buildings.
One question- sorry make that two?
What is balsa foam?
Where do you get it?
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If I may answer this, I've seen it in the Antenociti Shop, if I remeber correctly. Wait... Here it is:
http://www.barrule.com/Workshop/scratch%20builders%20paradise/sheet%20materials%20-%20metal%20and%20special%20materials.html#balsafoam
It also provides some info.
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Thanks
But a bit expensive for my taste.
And I don't have any casting experience to make master molds like elladan.
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Great work and great step-by-step, Elladan, and your more elaborate step-by-steps on your website are really impressive. I know how to produce silicone rubber moulds, but how do you cast such delicate structures like the windows with that thin planes? Are you using a casting machine? Would be nice to get some in-detail infos concerning that and the used materials like the resin.
Thanks in advance ... ;)
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Hi Admiral Benbow,
some answers to your questions:
I don't use a casting machine and I use common resin in single sided silicon molds. I build the masters out of thin plastic sheets. I am astonished for myself how thin and delicate structures I managed to cast in the last months.
My hint for you: It is very importent to pour the resin very slowly and in small amounts into the mold. So the material can slowly run into the smaller parts and there are only few or no air bubbles.
Here is a picture of a smal cupboard (25 mm x 17 mm) and the thickness of the material is 0,5 - 1,0 mm.
(http://www.elladan.de/033%20Furniture/DSCN1396.JPG)
I hope this helps.
Ciao
Elmar
http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
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Hi there and welcome!
I've been visiting your page for quite some time now and I must say I find all of it completely smashing! I've even tried (and failed) to do a fur mat like yours too!
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Your stuff is amazing as always! Since you cast in flat molds do you carve the interior damage and brickwork after casting the walls?
Can't wait to see it finished!
-dlmos
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Wow, I like that plate shelf. Nice to see you've started your furniture range. But you are aware of the fact that we now need cups and plates as well!? :D
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Hi dlmos,
here you ask for a small production secret. If I would tell you - I must kill you .....
Just a joke. No, I don't carve anything after casting. It is a trick with the mold production but works only with plaster, not with resin.
Ciao
Elmar
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lol that's no problem, I didn't realize you were planning on selling them.
And on that note......where's my wallet?....
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That is amazing...this gives me inspiration for the house I'll be working on in the future! :D
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Beautiful stuff Elladan. I have never heard of balsa foam before. But I easily found a place to get it now. You building certainly makes me want to give it a go at making some modern buildings. Thanks for sharing :D.
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Hello!
Thnx for sharing your work!...I've visited your website and I love your fur tabletop! There are many inspirational ideas.
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Hi,
it is time for my first update.
The last weeks I worked on the construction of the roof. I wanted it to look ralistic but castable with single sided molds.
In a first step I built a small section with two beams and roof battens.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1531.JPG)
I cast some of this pieces.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1533.JPG)
Then I glued them together and cutted them to the right length and width. Then I cut the base of the beam in an angle to match the upper side of the sidewalls and the upper side of the beam with a notch to support the beam for the roof ridge.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1538.JPG)
At this time I decided to built an intact roof first. This will allow me to test if the parts fit together and will hopefully save me time when I built different destroyed parts later. So I made a mold of the finished roof construction and a timber for the roof gable.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1542.JPG)
With the first casts done came the critical moment to see if all will fit as planed and measured. I provisional set up a relative intact building with not so much damaged wallpieces (casts and masters). Then I superglued the beam for the roof ridge to the notch of the first roofhalf. Next I sperglued the second half to the first, using the ridgewall as a guide for the right angle.
The result can be seen on the next pictures.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1544.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1547.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1550.JPG)
But there had been some problems with the casting of this roofpieces. The roof battens on the left and right are very fragile, because they are very thin and narrow. Some of them broke very easy in the processes of demoulding and cleaning up the parts.
Based on the model of steel concrete I put thin floral wire into the mold before the casting. That worked fine.The result is very durable "steel resin". On the next two detail shots you can see the green wire shine through the beige resin.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1547_cr.jpg)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1548_cr.jpg)
To be continued ....
Many more pictures can be found here on my homepage: http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/032.htm (http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/032.htm)
I will work on parts with the pantiles next and post more pictures in a few days/weeks.
Ciao
Elmar
http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
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Great stuff! I am glad you found a way to solve the roof problem. It looks really good.
Does the top side of the beam-piece show any wood texture? Or is the wood texture visible on the "inside" side? I hope you understand what I mean. ::)
A pity the first building has no space to support a roof. I guess I'll have to buy this one as well. And I won't be sad at all if I do. :D Worth every cent.
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Yessss very nice! I hope you haven't just left the painted walls as as they are though? I may have missed that in tripping over myself to reply to the thread :D
Have you ever considered casting the entire wall? Then you could have plenty of buildings...
Very interesting thread, I'll be looking on eagerly :)
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My hint for you: It is very importent to pour the resin very slowly and in small amounts into the mold. So the material can slowly run into the smaller parts and there are only few or no air bubbles.
I hope this helps.
Ciao
Elmar
http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
Another old trick is to brush resin in the fine details deep in the mould prior to pouring resin is: the air will have time to escape to the larger sections of the mould before the main chunk of resin hits it and will thus pose no problem. BTW, you are doing very well, nice design work!
Rudi
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@ Remington
The parts are cast in single sided molds - so three sides of the beams and roof battens have wood structure engraved in the masters and cast. My tip for the fourth side is to use rough sandpaper to give this side some structure too.
@ Christian
Sorry but I didn't understand your question - if you mean if I made molds of all wall pieces and other parts the answer is YES. I can cast lots of houses if everything is finished. An It could be many different looking houses because many walls and parts can be combinated in different ways.
Ciao
Elmar
http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
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The floral wire idea is pretty ingenious. However, that's going to significantly increase construction time, right? This wouldn't be a problem, I would guess, just making nine or ten for your own use. But if you're making lots of them to sell...
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That looks fantastic :-*
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I really like the brick texture you have made!
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Hello!
Great job! It's the first time that i see a modelling house detailed!
You're done a handyman!!
Cyu!.
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Thats a fantastic job :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Next update:
This time it was time for the modelling of the rain gutter and the pantiled roof.
The Rain gutter is made of a piece of half plastic tube as a basis. I added some wax for more thickness and cast some of this small pieces in resin.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1555.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1558.JPG)
I glued them on a piece of plastic card and added a small plastic rod to achieve the typical shape of a (german) rain gutter.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1565.JPG)
The pantiles are made from a recast of a roof for modelrailway buildings. The attachements were sculpted with modelling clay.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1566.JPG)
Here comes two pictures with some casts of the finished roofparts attached to the model.
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1571.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1575.JPG)
to be continued .....
More pictures and informations can be found on my homepage: http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)
Ciao
Elmar
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If've built and cast two more walls for my second WW II building. Now I am able to assemble a relativ intact building. I added some of my resin windows, shutters and door - most of them converted to show some damage frome a firefight around this building.
pictures of the masters of the new walls:
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1624.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1626.JPG)
pictures of the provisional assembled building with roof, windows, shutters and door:
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1628.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1630.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1635.JPG)
(http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/DSCN1640.JPG)
Many more pictures can be found here: http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/032.htm (http://www.elladan.de/032%20WW%20II%20ruined%20building%201/032.htm)
I will keep you updated as soon as I do any progress on this project. But at the moment I am working on my third batch of hedgerows. Here an exclusive preview picture:
(http://www.elladan.de/040%20Bocage%203/DSCN1720.JPG)
Ciao
Elmar
http://www.elladan.de/ (http://www.elladan.de/)