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Title: Peninsular War Project - First artillery battery done (12th June)
Post by: olicana on May 16, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
Well I've finally got around to starting this project. The Napoleonic lead pile, which was weighing in at just under 30 Kg (66 lbs), just got lighter, for the fist time, by 325 g (12 oz).

So, the first 325 g up was 1st Battalion King's German Legion. I hope you like it, but more importantly, if you see a glaring mistake, you'll be sure to let me know - Napoleonic gamers have an ill-earned reputation to keep up, don't you know lol

Anyway, here it is

link to more / bigger pics: http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/and-theyre-off-its-copenhagen-by-nose.html  (http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/and-theyre-off-its-copenhagen-by-nose.html)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XNXvy81UuOM/Vznk_z7eRoI/AAAAAAAAKu8/Jf24_-yQ9JoPxe6srwT61S8m8yf4VVwAACLcB/s640/IMG_0523.JPG)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gHUDvFmd1_U/Vznk_zac2TI/AAAAAAAAKvY/6U30CxjXgZQ0Dzljq7CrQszwimKEDqHAwCKgB/s640/IMG_0524.JPG)

Best Regards,

James
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Juan on May 16, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
Very nice painting work!!!
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: OSHIROmodels on May 16, 2016, 07:43:01 PM
They look grand  :)

Best of luck with the rest  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Warboss Nick on May 16, 2016, 08:36:22 PM
Very crisp painting as always, and excellent work on the red. Can't wait to see more of your new project.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Rob_bresnen on May 16, 2016, 09:55:32 PM
Very nice work. I can't tell in the photos but have they got blue backpacks?
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 16, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
Hi guys, thanks.

Rob,
Backpacks are black highlighted grey. Due to the angle of photography, I wonder if you are mistaking the back of the jacket's collar and shoulder straps (which are blue) for part of the backpack. The canteen is definitely blue.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: von Lucky on May 16, 2016, 11:29:24 PM
Looking good. I await the next 92 updates with bated breath.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Licantropo on May 16, 2016, 11:48:55 PM
Really well done, amazing work here!!! :-*
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Rob_bresnen on May 17, 2016, 12:03:13 AM
Hi guys, thanks.

Rob,
Backpacks are black highlighted grey. Due to the angle of photography, I wonder if you are mistaking the back of the jacket's collar and shoulder straps (which are blue) for part of the backpack. The canteen is definitely blue.

I am pretty sure the KGL in the Peninsular wore the same uniform as the regular British Line but their backpacks were painted blue. You might want to look into that. I might be wrong.

I don't mean to be disparaging, as I think you figures are beautifully painted, but you did as us to point out any mistakes.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 17, 2016, 07:49:20 AM
Quote
I can't tell in the photos but have they got blue backpacks?

Sorry Rob, I misread your question. You are right of course, it's in the Osprey (page 44) - blue packs, and they ignored the order to re-paint black in 1808! It shouldn't be too difficult to rectify, the plate shows the blue as very dark blue; actually, given the nature of plates, I thought it was the artist representing black with sheen and didn't look into it further. Thank you for the heads up.

I'll get onto it and report.

James
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: PAULSPENCE on May 17, 2016, 08:59:23 AM
Bonjour,

Inspiring stuff and yet not a tricorne in sight!

Very well done and thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

Paul
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Phil Robinson on May 17, 2016, 09:07:53 AM
A fantastic start, I am buckled up for the journey.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 17, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Hi Rob, blue packs.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oWMoNUjBdCw/VzrcVCMQCTI/AAAAAAAAKvo/D8o-MxVdTkI5FHbtY5CleY-v1Z9vaJArwCLcB/s640/IMG_0530.JPG)
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Mason on May 17, 2016, 10:08:18 AM
What a beautifully painted unit.
 :-* :-*

Added kudos for going back and 'blue-ing' up the packs.
 8) 8)

Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: archiduque on May 17, 2016, 11:18:42 AM
Very nice work!! ;)
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Rob_bresnen on May 17, 2016, 12:11:17 PM
That was quick! They look amazing now!
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Andym on May 17, 2016, 01:12:50 PM
Sweet! 8)
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Jabba on May 17, 2016, 03:34:13 PM
Not 100% sure with the KGL but did the light company have the light infantry shako plate or the standard line infantry plate the same as the rest of the battalion. This was the case with the British with only Light battalions and rifles having the hunting horn shako plate, if i remember correctly.

Great painting by the way, a good start. :)

I personally have the 3rd Division for 1809 painted with the 4th to come after finishing Pack's Independent Portuguese brigade.

Tony.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 17, 2016, 05:10:34 PM
I have Osprey plates showing a horn on the shako of British light flank coys of line battalions. Battalion packs by Front Rank also provide light flank coy figs with horns rather than plates. Perhaps it varied by regiment.

Thanks for the input.

James
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Hitman on May 17, 2016, 09:21:48 PM
They look fantastic. They should provide you with many hours of gaming pleasure. Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Hitman
 8)
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Jabba on May 17, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
I have Osprey plates showing a horn on the shako of British light flank coys of line battalions. Battalion packs by Front Rank also provide light flank coy figs with horns rather than plates. Perhaps it varied by regiment.

Ok James maybe I was mistaken then, was that on both the stovepipe, pre 1812, and belgic, post 1812, shakos?

Tony
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 17, 2016, 10:23:03 PM
Hi Tony,

I've started a thread on this at the other place, here's a link to what's been said

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=420766 (http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=420766)

I'm quite new to Napoleonics, for myself at least; I've painted a fair few for clients, mostly French, but I've usually just painted up what clients have sent to me with their pictures / guides without questioning it very much. I'm slowly getting a handle on it, but very slowly.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Lt. Hazel on May 18, 2016, 05:58:08 AM
Please think about copyright when you post pictures, even if they are as helpful as yours Harry :?
Cheers
Jan
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First unit, 1st Btn KGL
Post by: Driscoles on May 18, 2016, 06:24:19 AM
Great one !!!!
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 26, 2016, 04:51:15 PM
Well, unit two is now done, another battalion for von Lowe. 2nd Battalion KGL

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yIoFZCE6Xf8/V0cUaUJo4hI/AAAAAAAAKwI/KqLSsj8wTxM6Gxx7BSfTIUMpB5MbaS4ewCLcB/s640/IMG_0533.JPG)

more pics here: http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/2nd-kgl.html (http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/2nd-kgl.html)

I've also decided what British I'm going to take from the pile to paint for the first game. The force will be:

von Lőwes Brigade (1st, 2nd and 5th KGL battalions); Howards Brigade (50th Line battalion, 92nd Highland battalion, 71st Light Infantry battalion); von Arentschild's brigade (16th Light Dragoons, 1st Hussars KGL); a 'tiny' unit of riflemen; a battery (three guns) of foot artillery.

That should be enough of a force to do a small, initial game using Black Powder or Lasalle rules.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: jambo1 on May 26, 2016, 05:11:56 PM
Lovely work, they look brilliant!!
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: gustav on May 28, 2016, 06:55:05 AM
James
great work - lovely looking unit.
but  ;)
one minor point as I want to check my knowledge. 

Your battalion rankers all have grey trousers/pantaloons, my understanding is that certainly pre 1812 in hot climates or summer, white pantaloons were authorised and could have been worn instead of the grey.  Plus they could also be wearing whatever local cloth (the usual being brown) if replaced / repaired.   I guess it is all a bit moot and up for personal preference and can mean units with a different look.  So was their any reason for you to choose grey ?
Will your preference be for campaign look or parade ?  I always get caught in between the two :)




 
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 28, 2016, 09:16:02 AM
I'm doing KGL in grey trousers so they will immediately stand out from the 'British' regiments. It's purely a matter of poetic license backed by a bit of fact: Grey trousers and gaiters formally replaced white breeches for other ranks in July 1810. I guess the key word here is 'formally', and this must be the date that the decision for grey was sanctioned in Whitehall.

How quickly troops in Spain got grey trousers (how quickly the contracts for white ones ended and the white ones ran out) is, of course, a matter for debate, but as you say it wasn't until Sept 1812 that infantry on active service were officially ordered to substitute what remained of their white ones for grey ones and absolutely no more white ones were issued.

My next brigade, Howard's Brigade, will be in white trousers with assorted locally obtained trousers in various colours.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: Harry Faversham on May 28, 2016, 12:25:04 PM
That's the best answer in the white/grey/brown trouser debate I've ever heard. I did 'em that way... 'so they will immediately stand out'!
Well said old chap.

:)
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: gustav on May 30, 2016, 12:46:50 PM

Nice idea to differentiate like that.  Glad my understanding not out of whack. 
As you mention, dates surrounding uniform changes it is so difficult to know how quickly they were implemented.
 
On one hand you read how difficult supply was on the other that it was all very well organised. 
I guess the best solution is indeed just to go with what you feel is right.

Just that my inbuilt OCD always wants me to be accurate :)


Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: olicana on May 30, 2016, 05:43:28 PM
It just so happens that yesterday I caved in and I repainted most in white trousers with a smattering of grey and brown. No pics yet as I'm still doing the figs for the next battalion of KGL. Once they are done I'll mix all of the rank and file up and re-base. Hope to be done by Friday.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: Plutarch64 on May 31, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
Lovely work. I liked the idea of doing them in grey trousers and don't know how you find the energy to re-do them, let alone rebase them (that "rebasing" word is one that makes me shudder).

Either way, I am sure they will just as great second time around.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - Second unit, 2nd Btn KGL
Post by: gustav on June 03, 2016, 04:18:05 AM
Look forward indeed to seeing them !

Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First brigade done (9th June)
Post by: olicana on June 09, 2016, 11:35:21 AM
Well here it is:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uOWugI-FPS4/V1k_nWrjQTI/AAAAAAAAKww/d0_sg4_lwPErGBwKbTkz7Rvk11E33FezwCLcB/s400/IMG_0535.JPG)

More pics and notes here: http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/first-brigade-done.html (http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/first-brigade-done.html)

I hope you like it and I hope you approve of the early trouser change.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First brigade done (9th June)
Post by: Harry Faversham on June 09, 2016, 01:43:58 PM
:-* Excellent!  :-*
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First brigade done (9th June)
Post by: PAULSPENCE on June 09, 2016, 08:39:28 PM
Hi,

Just simply astonishing!

So many well-painted figures and all done so quickly.

Thanks for sharing.

I need a pint of what you're having!

Cheers,

Paul
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First brigade done (9th June)
Post by: Plutarch64 on June 10, 2016, 01:51:37 AM
Lovely work, and I can't believe you have can maintain such high quality at such a rate of output.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First brigade done (9th June)
Post by: gustav on June 10, 2016, 01:56:25 PM

Indeed a delight to the eye to inspire jealousy   ;)

All of you put my output to shame - but never mind.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First brigade done (9th June)
Post by: Marine0846 on June 10, 2016, 05:28:16 PM
Excellent painting.
When painted, I have to remind myself,
I am painting toys.
Go will what you like, I am sure they will be great.
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First artillery battery done (12th June)
Post by: olicana on June 12, 2016, 07:46:25 PM
Well, just for a change, I've done a battery of artillery.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VHB1UkgPkj8/V12pO5sJNPI/AAAAAAAAKxY/V1fElQ4yWuk97s4vtBnb_qCOYY1sXu6pwCKgB/s640/IMG_0539.JPG)

Notes and more images: http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/unit-four-british-foot-artillery-battery.html (http://olicanalad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/unit-four-british-foot-artillery-battery.html)
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First artillery battery done (12th June)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on June 12, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
Lovely work  :)

cheers

James
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First artillery battery done (12th June)
Post by: Andym on June 12, 2016, 09:59:10 PM
Sa-weeeeet! The horses are particularly good! :-*
Title: Re: Peninsular War Project - First artillery battery done (12th June)
Post by: Plutarch64 on June 13, 2016, 03:31:08 AM
Lovely work, as always.