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Title: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on May 20, 2016, 03:15:26 PM

Here comes the first of my late Romans (from the new Gripping Beast plastics). These are (part of) the legiones comitatenses Prima Flavia Constantia, originally recruited in Egypt and stationed along the Danube frontier.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans02.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans03.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans04.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Jericho on May 20, 2016, 04:43:56 PM

Nice ones.

I don't know why but when I glanced at the first picture I thought to myself, why do they have such floppy spears  o_o

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Suetonius Paullinus on May 20, 2016, 07:34:32 PM

They look great  8)
I really need to get on with mine..

Keep'em coming

Cheers

SP

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on May 21, 2016, 01:06:50 AM

@Jericho: Thanks! Hehe.

@SP: Thank you! :)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: duc de limbourg on May 21, 2016, 08:38:19 AM

These look realy nice, thanks for sharing

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: ayak333 on May 21, 2016, 06:44:26 PM

nice work on the minis! I also like the unusual legion choice!

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on May 21, 2016, 11:31:44 PM

@duc: Thank you!

@ayak: Thanks! The legion choice is mainly down to laziness, I wanted something easy to freehand on the shields. :D Speaking of which, the rest of them should be ready soon, all basecoats are down and I've started on the washing.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Richard in Sachsen on May 22, 2016, 05:25:31 AM

These look great. Very nice brush work! The faces on these sculpts have bothered me since they came out until I just now realized that I've only seen extreme close-ups in pictures and the faces probably pop very nicely on the gaming table. I imagine they are a pleasure to paint as well.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on May 24, 2016, 01:07:06 PM

Thanks Richard! Yeah, the faces are not bad in a unit, especially if you vary skin tones. But I would have prefeered different faces, and not just clones.

These are the rest of my Prima Flavia Constantia legion. Mainly based on the new GB plastics, but with some arms, heads and bodies from the viking and saxon boxes, and two Warlord auxilia with converted helmets.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans05.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans06.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans07.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on June 01, 2016, 11:49:30 AM

Here we have the Prima Italica legion. They seems to have worsened over the centuries, in the late Roman era they got stuck as border guards by the Danube, and are noted as a pseudocomitatenses in the Notitia Dignitatum. Their fairly dubious wikipedia article says they had a boar as a symbol, so I went with that for the standard. Being originally Italians, and presumably filled up with barbarians I gave these a lighter skin colour. I also mainly used unarmoured bodies for a "not quite as elite" look.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans08.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans09.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans10.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: armchairgeneral on June 01, 2016, 12:28:06 PM

Really nice work Mrtn. You have been busy  :)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on June 02, 2016, 12:10:11 AM

Thanks mate! Yeah, got hit by an inspiration with these.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: jambo1 on June 02, 2016, 05:44:07 PM

Very nice looking units, they really look the part. :)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: archiduque on June 04, 2016, 12:18:26 PM

Very nice work! ;)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Mithridates1 on June 05, 2016, 12:00:34 AM

Looking good - must admit I really like the idea of an army with known/named units.  GB's figures may not be everyone's cup of tea but they are fine, have used the Dark Ages warriors as generic tribesmen in my Dacian horde.  Yours show what is possible with some good painting and creative work.   Now, if I was starting again......... 

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on June 11, 2016, 11:30:10 AM

Thanks guys!

This is the Secunda Flavia Constantia Thebaeorum, sister legion to the first armoured guys I made, also raised in Egypt. These have a red circle around the shield boss, and I gave them red decorative patches as well.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans11.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans12.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans13.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Phil Robinson on June 11, 2016, 02:34:41 PM

The colour combination makes it a very striking unit.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on June 16, 2016, 09:09:50 AM

Thanks Phil!
Here's a WIP of a Roman farm, so these guys have something to defend.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures/Terrain/romanvilla1.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Phil Robinson on June 16, 2016, 09:13:14 AM

Looking good, I look forward to seeing it progress.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on July 07, 2016, 11:22:56 AM

Thanks Phil.

These are the latest of the late Romans. Went for a red uniform on these guys for a change.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans14.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans15.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans16.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: ayak333 on July 07, 2016, 07:23:39 PM

awesome! keep em coming!

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Warboss Nick on July 09, 2016, 08:01:40 PM

Very nice work on the units, and I'm particularly looking forward to more progress on the farm.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Suetonius Paullinus on July 10, 2016, 09:46:52 PM

They look awesome mate! Well done with the colour schemes, really spot on  8)

Cheers

SP

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on July 14, 2016, 11:37:22 AM

Quote from: Warboss Nick on July 09, 2016, 08:01:40 PM

Very nice work on the units, and I'm particularly looking forward to more progress on the farm.

Thanks! The farm is finished, but I got dragged in to writing an article about it, so I'll brag about it let you know when it's in print.  :)

Quote from: ayak333 on July 07, 2016, 07:23:39 PM

awesome! keep em coming!

Quote from: Suetonius Paullinus on July 10, 2016, 09:46:52 PM

They look awesome mate! Well done with the colour schemes, really spot on  8)

Cheers

SP

Thanks guys!

This is the last unit in this phase of the army. They have the shields of the Germaniciani seniores, which is listed as a pseudocomitatenses unit in the Notitia Dignitatum, but I'll probably often run them as a limitanei levy unit. Most of them are based on the Dark Age Warriors plastic box.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans17.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans18.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans19.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on July 27, 2016, 03:38:56 PM

I accidentally bought a small late Roman army the other week, and found that I wanted some draco standards for command models. They weren't included, so I had to build some. Thankfully I still have my old Warhammer bits, so here are three dracos built from a saurus, a skink and a skaven. Enjoy. ;)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans20.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Richard in Sachsen on July 27, 2016, 04:16:34 PM

Fantastic work! They really look good! Been working on a few myself and painting the shields as well but I really like the dirt and grime on yours. I've been debating whether to put some 'Deposited Dust' from Lifecolor on the shields but I am hesitant as the shields took so long to do and I'm afraid of messing them up :?

BTW, do you have a technique for painting wounds? I've got some casualty markers pieced with arrows and javelins that I'd like to put some blood around the wounds. What I don't want is red paint splotched on - I got some LOTR Rohan off of eBay with red paint splotched on the swords and it just looks awful to me.

On one guy, laying down with his hand over his face and an arrow in his eye, I experimented with Army Painter red ink over the flesh of the hand. I think it works but really isn't noticeable. That idea came from the Medicus model over at Warlord.

In any case, I have some light blue tunics with white strips that need some blood stains but I am not sure how to go about it without overdoing it.

I thought that you paint so well, you may have a technique or two.

Your army really is nice!

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: commissarmoody on July 27, 2016, 06:19:36 PM

What rule set are you planning on using for this project?

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on July 27, 2016, 11:25:18 PM

Quote from: Richard in Sachsen on July 27, 2016, 04:16:34 PM

Fantastic work! They really look good! Been working on a few myself and painting the shields as well but I really like the dirt and grime on yours. I've been debating whether to put some 'Deposited Dust' from Lifecolor on the shields but I am hesitant as the shields took so long to do and I'm afraid of messing them up :?

BTW, do you have a technique for painting wounds? I've got some casualty markers pieced with arrows and javelins that I'd like to put some blood around the wounds. What I don't want is red paint splotched on - I got some LOTR Rohan off of eBay with red paint splotched on the swords and it just looks awful to me.

On one guy, laying down with his hand over his face and an arrow in his eye, I experimented with Army Painter red ink over the flesh of the hand. I think it works but really isn't noticeable. That idea came from the Medicus model over at Warlord.

In any case, I have some light blue tunics with white strips that need some blood stains but I am not sure how to go about it without overdoing it.

I thought that you paint so well, you may have a technique or two.

Your army really is nice!

Thanks for the nice words!
The dirt on my shields is just brown paint flicked on with my finger and a nylon brush. Easy. I haven't bothered with powders and solvents, I know where I am with ordinary acrylic paint.
Search for "tamiya clear red blood tutorial" and you should get plenty of hits for blood. I haven't used it myself but it looks spectacular. Don't overdo it though, assuming you're painting historical models and not Khorne berserkers.

Quote from: commissarmoody on July 27, 2016, 06:19:36 PM

What rule set are you planning on using for this project?

Mainly Hail Caesar, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get roped in for another rule set or three.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Richard in Sachsen on July 28, 2016, 07:01:38 AM

Thanks for the tip, I'll give that a try

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on August 03, 2016, 03:24:48 PM

Here's a few pics from my latest game. The Romans managed to save the villa from the rampaging Goths.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/DSCN9599.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/DSCN9600.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/DSCN9602.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/DSCN9603.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: ayak333 on August 03, 2016, 08:07:13 PM

Great Looking armies, love the amassed forces!

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: wrgmr1 on August 18, 2016, 04:53:02 AM

Great looking figures!
May I ask what paint, colors you used for the yellow brown?
Really nice combination.
Cheers,
Thomas

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: powerfrog99 on August 18, 2016, 04:50:30 PM

Nice pics of nice minis

thanks for sharing Thomas

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on September 09, 2016, 03:16:35 PM

Quote from: ayak333 on August 03, 2016, 08:07:13 PM

Great Looking armies, love the amassed forces!

Thank you!

Quote from: wrgmr1 on August 18, 2016, 04:53:02 AM

Great looking figures!
May I ask what paint, colors you used for the yellow brown?
Really nice combination.
Cheers,
Thomas

Thanks, which yellow brown do you mean?

Quote from: powerfrog99 on August 18, 2016, 04:50:30 PM

Nice pics of nice minis

thanks for sharing Thomas

Thank you!

Finally got around to finishing the basing on these guys. The archers are a mix of old metal Gripping Beast and new plastic GB. The catapult crew is converted from various plastic sets, and the catapult itself is a conversion of a self cast orc catapult from an old Prince August mould.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans21.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans22.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans23.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans24.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans25.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans26.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Phil Robinson on September 09, 2016, 05:50:42 PM

Great stuff, the placcys seem to blend in well.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Jericho on September 10, 2016, 06:22:40 AM

Very nice. Throwing some cloaked archers in there really adds flavor to these units.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Richard in Sachsen on September 10, 2016, 07:25:40 AM

Wow, these are fantastic, mrtn! Really, really nice!

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on October 16, 2016, 09:42:53 PM

Belated thanks guys. :)

Here's a unit of Syrian archers, 2/3 from Warlord and the rest from Black Tree Design. The green robes are very close to my WWI Germans, but a mix of blue and green instead of black and green washes. :)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans27.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans28.jpg)

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/mrtnw/Miniatures2/Late%20Romans/lateromans29.jpg)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Hu Rhu on October 16, 2016, 09:49:04 PM

Very nice.  The two ranges fit together very well.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Phil Robinson on October 17, 2016, 06:28:51 AM

Super stuff, I have just started some Eastern saggitarii for my 3C Romans.

A & A rank and file with Aventine command.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Jericho on October 17, 2016, 06:59:08 AM

They look great!

Pray tell, what did you use to get that eastern skintone? For my own attempts all failed...

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: mrtn on October 17, 2016, 07:50:02 AM

Thanks guys!

Quote from: Jericho on October 17, 2016, 06:59:08 AM

They look great!

Pray tell, what did you use to get that eastern skintone? For my own attempts all failed...

Basecoat of VMC Khaki Grey, then highlighted with Flat Flesh and washed with AP Strong Tone ink. That Khaki grey gets it closer to the olive brown skin tone.

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Jericho on October 17, 2016, 07:46:29 PM

Quote from: mrtn on October 17, 2016, 07:50:02 AM

Basecoat of VMC Khaki Grey, then highlighted with Flat Flesh and washed with AP Strong Tone ink. That Khaki grey gets it closer to the olive brown skin tone.

Thanks for the recipe.  :)

Title: Re: mrtn's late Romans
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on October 21, 2016, 12:36:17 PM

Love me some (more or less) Late Romans. :)
Quite an array, well done!