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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: WallyTWest on May 28, 2016, 05:03:00 AM
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Question to the form.... What 3025 do these plastics represent and in what combinations? Is there a generaly accepted equivalence on this forum or in the Battletech community?
Sprue A
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Sprue B
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Example Put Togther
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Example Conversion
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Example Conversion
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"Lost Mech"
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"Lost Mech"
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"Lost Mech"
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Hello
Warhammer and Rifleman
Iconic mechs with bended legs....?.. Sorry bad english...
Marauder locust and catapult...none really fits...
Where are those minis from...
Kind regards
Florian
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Familiar picture, those painted ones! I think I did those years ago. :)
These are the cheap but excellent EM4 mechs. I built them to represent something like (LtR) a Wasp, a Rifleman, a Daishi, a Longbow and another Wasp.
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Just a question about the plastic. What type of plastic is it? Is it bendy or hard?
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Just a question about the plastic. What type of plastic is it? Is it bendy or hard?
Not sure what sort it is, but it's a fairly hard plastic, that takes cutting and glueing well. No problems with the plastic here.
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That last conversion with the torso turned around, I have done the exact same thing on mine. :o
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Those are conversions I found online- I've worked with these mechs before , bought them when they were new A long time ago.but at the time thought them generic- when I began looking at the legs I realized they were some sort of loose Battletech clones. Then I realized the weapon in the right hand was meant to be a ppc.
Obviously it's an open market kit meant to represent generic mechs- but it definitely appears to me that they are meant to fill the hole of the lawsuit mechs.
I was hoping to find a agreement on what layouts represent what mecha. (I also posted while a little tired)- I can see they are meant to be generic.... But I hold that they are the "missing mechs". The warhammer and griffin have missile pods on their sholder- I should find a way to convert those.
@ Question- Steel Warriors by EM4- very affordable.
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Have you considered the Battletech starter box? It's quite cheap when on retail discount for a good heap of 3025 mechs.
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Yea- got two of them- one is in the back there, the other is the old starter.
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Gotcha, so you're just adding to? Neat.
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A friend picked up one new starter set and one old one... And my review?
Day/Night
Catalyst should apologize for the older set, the newer sculpts are gorgeous in comparison and have all the advantages of the older metal-
I've been playing a few test games solo and I got to say- the Alpha Strike Ruleset is rough; it's all the lessons learned in the last 20 years; but fails to address some of the core issues of battletech being... Well.... Battletech.
Their suggested point range of 250-450 is also too high for what the rule sets strengths... It seems to play brilliantly at the 100 to 150 mark and suspect most of their play testing was done around here.
I can not give high enough marks to the core rulebook: but I have a complaint about the compendium. The compendium includes all the quarks and pilot abilities that should have been in the core rules- included this game suddenly feels like X-Wing and is better for it. (No question)
By converting the unit stats directly from the core rulebook: there is the added problem of relying on pure formula to balance the units... But a lower points cap and varied terrain meditates the power of single units.
Long story short/ this has screwed my plans. Instead of two lists of 12 for two players I am looking at making a series of highly flavored lances and printing off equipment cards.
This could easily be an exciting black hole to fall down with the right group of players.
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I can post pictures later today- the difference is shameful... Really, the newer sculpts are that much better.
If they cared, they would re-release battletech under a more heavily modified alpha strike rule set, publish cards and pilots like in X-Wing and focus on a single era producing a nice range of units and plastic terrain across the spectrum.
This half hearted attempt running off a golden heart is sad.
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If some bigger name were to produce a fully fledged x-wing but mecha I would probably be all over that. Make the mecha modular for a guaranteed sale. :D
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Exactly my thought- this genre only needs the correct presentation to shine. These recasts with an XWing stile paint job would disappear off shelves if sold like X-Wing booster packs.
Makes me want to play some more mechwarrior.
Actually- it goes to show how inovative X-Wing was-
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Just a question about the plastic. What type of plastic is it? Is it bendy or hard?
Belated answer, but it's the same plastic that the Silent Death plastics are made of. Maybe not quite as high end as GW or Wyrd plastics, but perfectly serviceable for gaming, not toy-quality cheapo stuff.
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Original set is some sort of hybrid between the M4 and traditional molding just injected plastic. The new plastic is comparable to GW/Mantic set.
The above picture is pretty good, I took some of the worst offenders and lined them up. Check out the catapult in the Jager Mac, all sorts of detail has been lost between the two.
If these models came from the dollar store I wouldn't care, but as a gaming product I feel that there is a minimum quality that they failed to achieve in the previous product.
For the purposes of a dry brush and wash over a basic color, but if you're trying to do anything remotely spectacular the older scouts are useless.
I am supposed to paint the older set up as two different factions, Wolfs Dragoons and The Checkered Lyrian Commonwealth. Both paint schemes rely heavily on Inc. washes and panel lines, it's going to be hard with the older sculpts.
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Agreed. I've owned both types and the old version is...seriously crap. Not to mention it's the plastic which struggles to accept paint (akin to the old school starter box back from the 80's-90's).
The new mech plastic is fine. The sculpts still leave a bit to be desired, but you get so many figures in the box for the price it's fine. Battletech is still not on par with the most modern miniatures. The metals are...pretty questionable in a lot of the mechs. Battletech is lost in its own expansiveness.
A gigantic miniature range with varying (sometimes poor) quality sculpts/casts/designs etc. A lot of folks are printing gorgeous 3D prints from the new MWO game.
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The truth is they should just update to the newer designs and focus on adopting to the current state of 6mm gaming.
There have been some serious advancements in the last 30 years; imagine what they could do with redesigned and updated clan tech?
With regards to 3D printing-
This is one instance on these forums where the discussion is warranted. The new Jagger and Dragons look radically different-
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we cant talk 3d printing from video games without the mods having a splurter from the blurter about it. Pity about that because on Tested with Adam Savage they had a segment on this very thing with printed battlemecha as well....
Well the nice thing is that the MWO guys released the files and said "go nuts"...giving free reign to people to use them for their own purposes.
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Well the nice thing is that the MWO guys released the files and said "go nuts"...giving free reign to people to use them for their own purposes.
Actually cleaning game files for printing can be a pain in the ... though. Not always but modelling for games and modelling for printing has a very different set of targets.
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Oh, I'm sure. It was just nice of them to waive all the legal nonsense and let people do it without fear of repercussions.