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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Jagannath on August 30, 2016, 11:25:20 AM
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Hullo all,
I'm finally getting round to building a village type thing for my GZG crusties - in my sci fi world they're desert dwelling creatures, sometimes nomadic with termite-esque villages they travel between.
So, I want to make some 'soft' desert buildings a bit like the old Snapdragon terrain:
(http://thumbs3.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/381694765930_/Snapdragon-Studios-Sci-Fi-Buildings-6mm-10mm-Resin.jpg)
Or mud huts:
(http://www.offthegridnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/mud-hut.jpg)
Im going to just sculpt these I think, what should I use?
It's 15mm so I was considering using Miliput - it's not crazy expensive and I know how to use it. What's Fimo like for this type of job? How does it paint afterwards?
Any other materials better?
Cheers
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I would suggest using DAS self drying clay for the bulk of the structure and keep the milliput for the detail.
DAS has the advantage that its texture when dry is slightly rough/fibrous and will make a very natural looking surface in 15mm.
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Wow- I haven't thought about DAS for years.
My concern with DAS was that it would takes days to dry in the centre. if at all, if I make quite large structures (~100mm diameter), is that not the case? I haven't used DAS since I was a child.
Thanks for suggesting.
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If the structures are solid you can use scrunched up tinfoil as a base and then put a layer of DAS on top of that.
cheers
James
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That's a great idea, thanks - I think they will be solid, seems an easier bet, rather than getting cocky. Other than the drying I like the idea of using DAS because it's got a good texture. Does it paint OK when dry?
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If you prime it with a good quality primer it'll be fine. It does tend to soak up the paint a bit (hence the primer).
cheers
James
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I mostly use gesso, which i guess is even better for this application - dry clay is surely closer to canvas than little metal men are! Kewl - off to Fred Aldous I go.
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Post some pictures when you're making them :)
cheers
James
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You could use some cheap plastic kitchen tablespoon measures as a former to mould the DAS over to create domes. You could use the various measure sizes if you want to add apses/extra domes to build more complicated structures...
https://seanhwilliams.wordpress.com/tag/sandbag-dome/
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I'm slowly accumulating various shapes as moulds/formers, got some good organic shapes now.
Imhoping to sit down tonight and start work on them, so might put some pics in later.
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This sounds like a really cool project.One which i will be watching.
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I saw these in a French Language Graphic Novel called L'Alkaest and thought they were worth sharing.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a_0LMGztkQs/V8WW2mk6U4I/AAAAAAAAQzg/sirYpnMtEsglRYLoH1bajfs5dLcFOC8mACLcB/s320/huts%2B001.JPG)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fqm6nvp27D8/V8WW3y6Rx0I/AAAAAAAAQzk/vciiSsbCYSocEocNjwPTaa0xxAPF22pSQCLcB/s320/huts%2B002.JPG)
I would suggest making them with DAS modelling clay.
Tony
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Thanks Tony,
They look great. I want a combination of that type of round hut but also somethings like this:
(https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/06/ed/97/aa/the-mud-house-gaudi-style.jpg)
Like they mulch the houses themselves (like wasps).
I'm really inspired by the structure on the backs of these beasts from Prophet:
(http://comicsalliance.com/files/2012/08/untitled-2-1329850906.jpg)
Quite excited by this idea now!
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Another thought would be papermache over a plastic form like half a plastic ball or a plastic dish. I am talking about the commercial stuff not just ripped up newspaper. If you leave the forms in that will provide support and all you have to do is worry about sealing the surface. Pva brushed on neat would work. It would give you a realistic texture on the surface too. Just another option.
Snitchy sends.
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Many years ago I bought some of the Snap Dragon (6mm?) sci-fi buildings. Half were beautifully painted (by them) and half unpainted. They languished in a box since then as I could not match the painting style and did not want to loose the paint job. Last month I finally plucked up the courage. My painting skill must have (greatly) improved over the decades as the old & new sit well together.
I was thinking about adding to them, and in the absence of Snap Dragon, looked about.
Kryomec? (alien bio-mechanics) tend to come in two part resin, each with a flat side. I have found they look quite nice as buildings if (instead of gluing the flat sides together) the flat sides were glued to bases.
Mainly Military used to do a 6mm Sci-Fi range which look nice along side Snap Dragon (yes I am a hoarder & have a shoe box full of Mainly Military stuff)
Some Papier-Mache packaging looks nicely 'organic' and could be used as a starter.
If using Das or similar I would make a 'stamp' for doors & windows, emboss them into the basic shape.
I hope this helps.
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Well, it's not the most exciting image, but I have started...
(https://bladesandblastersdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/img_9724-e1472940837235.jpg)
The front 3 will be conjoined, a bit like the yellow one at the back/ The really odd looking one is like the other, but with a narrower protudence.
Once they're solid tomorrow I'll coat with milliput, then texture the walls a sponge and cleave windows and door out.
They might not look like much now, but I'm actually getting pretty excited about these - I've been playing a bit of Starwars Battlefront recently (still haven't unpacked a huge amount of hobby stuff since moving at the start of August) and I love seeing the Jawas run about into their caves and the Ewoks into their huts in certain areas. I realised that a little desert village would make great scenery even if the occupants aren't the games protagonists.
More to come.
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Here's the first one, still not quite finished - I want to do another layer in parts to remove some the weird clay texture I've missed and make the details a touch deeper, but I've dappled with the sponge to get the finished texture so this is roughly how the finished group will look:
(https://bladesandblastersdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/img_9727-e1473015651314.jpg)
I'll post again once the whole set are finished.
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I like them 8)
cheers
James
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Looks very promising.
Snitchy sends.
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I think they look great, lots of promise.
Tony
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They definitely give off the right 'feel'.
8)
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Any more progress on these?
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Yeah, I'd like to know how they came out to.
I've been thinking of doing something similar in 6mm for some time now.
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No sorry, not a huge amount - the clay ones took an absolute age to dry, if I was doing 6mm (something I've thought about too) I'd definitely just use epoxy. The sort of finished one below is now in the painting queue though, along with a ring-fenced pen for some alien cattle. I'll do some pics at the weekend.
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Good to hear there's still some progress even if it's taking longer than you expected. I look forward to seeing the pictures of the first one finished.
For my 6mm buildings I was actually thinking of doing the core of the constuction in el cheapo fimo knock off.
That way I could sculpt the rough details into the fimo, bake it and then add fine detail in a 50/50 milliput/green stuff mix.
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Hullo all,
Couldn't face much at the painting desk today, so turned to an idea I've had for a wee while. Same concept, different scale. I present my 6mm alien hut village:
(https://bladesandblastersdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/img_9962-e1484601006264.jpg)
Still a couple of doors to sculpt, then on to basing.
I'm hoping these will work as double (sort of triple) duty - a village for a 6mm sci if 'colonial' force I want to make, maybe using Onslaught Avians, which will also serve as general terrain in 6mm sci if. I'm also thinking about starting a small scale fantasy project using small bases of 3 odd men (so not 'skirmish' but not mass battle either) and I'll use this village in those too.
Anyway, can't promise when I'll next work on these, but I'm much happier with them in 6mm than the 15mm one.
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Those work well, looking forward to seeing them painted. Alien decoration motifs perhaps?
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Cheers - no, pretty simple 'whitewash' colours... makes them pop against my desert board and also compliments the yellowy-bronze flock I use. I'll finish them up at the weekend hopefully.
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6mm beasts are basecoated
(https://bladesandblastersdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/img_9997.jpg?w=1000)
Nowt too exciting but they're getting much closer to finished now.
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Hullo all,
Been a while since I posted in this thread. Those 6mm huts are just sat awaiting a matte coat (I don't want to use my valuable Testors cans for this so trialling some other sprays) but I though I'd add my latest sculpted terrain project - alien succulents/trees
(https://bladesandblastersdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/img_0924-e1508933274601.jpg)
This is version 2 of these plants - I had a test run with turf foliage that a)didn't stick and clump as I wanted and b) I put on before painting, stupidly, so - total disaster.
I decided that I prefer the look of 'sculpted' foliage on things like this - reminds me of the old 6mm Snapdragon terrain.
The above still has a lot of sculpting to do - all of the 'trunks' will have a crown of foliage, then there's be small clumps on the lower parts of the trunks (hence the wee blobs of greenstuff on one at the moment) and a few clumps at ground level. Once that's finished I've got 4 more bases to do too:
(https://bladesandblastersdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/img_0925-e1508933265454.jpg)
Each of those bases has at least 18mm between the groups of trunks (my 15mm mini base size) and enough space front or back to park a 6mm group base.
The colour of the sculpey and greenstuff looks a bit organic already, coincidentally, but these will have red foliage (I like the pop of red to go with all my desert terrrain) and pale trunks.
Right, lots to do so better crack on!
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A few more clumps done on the first batch:
(https://bladesandblastersdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/img_0927-e1508959066600.jpg)