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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Sinewgrab on February 01, 2009, 09:24:32 AM
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Blame the VSFers. Due to Ray starting his, I had an image of an Aeronef in my head, and today I started working on it. I normally try to spend Saturdays painting, but today my arthritis/tendonitis was really acting up, and led to my working on the Aeronef instead - large rough work, instead of detailed fine stuff.
I started with materials familiar to me, and easy to get - high-density urethane sign foam. Get samples all day long from work at no cost.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3243795432_932c5fe8aa_b.jpg)
Here you see the very base of the vehicle.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3489/3243795510_db76f8fda8_b.jpg)
As you can see here, I have commandeered a Rebel Troop Transport from the Star Wars collectible miniatures set to use as my cockpit. It has riveted sides, and that made very appealing for this.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/3243795610_bf0f972284_b.jpg)
Another angle.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/3242963541_c5768964ee_b.jpg)
Now with work done to angle some corners.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3308/3242963627_27369ff7b9_b.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3488/3242963717_a052d08906_b.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3359/3242963915_5c226bd482_b.jpg)
And here I have added some extra reinforcement. I am planning on planking the standing surfaces with wooden sticks, and putting plasticard sides on it, adding pins as rivets as I go. I'll need to get guns for it, and then a crew, but hey, it is going to be fun. What's one more Aeronef in the skies of Venus or MArs, right?
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Seems the VSF shipyards are at full production!
Looking forward to see how it goes!
Keep us posted.
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Interesting start! Looks like it takes shape in a fast time. "The System is the Difference..." - as always! lol
Keep us posted. BTW, where's that armoured superstructure from?
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Interesting start! Looks like it takes shape in a fast time. "The System is the Difference..." - as always! lol
Keep us posted. BTW, where's that armoured superstructure from?
As it says under one of the pistures, that is a Rebel Troop Carrier from the collectible Star Wars game.
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Oi! blaming other folk is my trick. ;)
Looking good so far. I wish I could get some of that stuff, I make all my hulls from plasticard so they are hollow and that looks a lot quicker.
Look forward to the updates
Svennn
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Oi! blaming other folk is my trick. ;)
Looking good so far. I wish I could get some of that stuff, I make all my hulls from plasticard so they are hollow and that looks a lot quicker.
Look forward to the updates
Svennn
Talk to a sign shop. They may have cutoffs. Any sign maker who does 3-dimensional signs, either uses redwood, oak, or this stuff to do it. It is easily worked with a triple axis CNC machine. Take a look at these manufacturer links, and then when you sound like you know what you are asking for, you can try and get some.
http://www.precisionboard.com/
http://www.signfoam.com/
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And, as I wait for the Super Bowl, here is my work for the day.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3334/3245642876_b22d6e60d1_b.jpg)
The planking is on. I love those little bags of sticks I get at Michaels.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3244814561_3d295127fb_b.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3477/3244815045_e3a32f8b5e_b.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3245644100_bd76c557b2_b.jpg)
And the last two shots are of the vessel with plasticard added to the sides. I am planning on drilling holes and adding pins to give me the riveted look I feel it needs. I will probably hit a wall soon that I won't be able to get past, as my funds are short enough (damned economy) that I won't be able to order the guns and crew, or get the little pieces I want. I'll see what I have in bits though - I even surprise myself sometimes with what I can find in my boxes of leftovers. I want that gun the Ray is using though - where the best place to get Reviresco in the US?
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I thought Reviresco was a US company ?
Awesome looking ship.
That construction method looks a lot faster than Ray's ship.... could this be the start of another naval arms race ?
Should that be aeronaval ? or aeronefal ?
Anyway, looking forward to seeing the painted & riveted finished vessel.
If you can't afford the guns and fittings, why not use it (temporarily) as either a troopship or a merchantman temporarily pressed into naval service.
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I thought Reviresco was a US company ?
Awesome looking ship.
That construction method looks a lot faster than Ray's ship.... could this be the start of another naval arms race ?
Should that be aeronaval ? or aeronefal ?
Anyway, looking forward to seeing the painted & riveted finished vessel.
If you can't afford the guns and fittings, why not use it (temporarily) as either a troopship or a merchantman temporarily pressed into naval service.
You're right - I mixed it up with Redoubt.
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Ah, the day after the Super Bowl update, wherein I show the work I did last night after cursing the onesided refereeing.
Below is the side I have close to finished as far as rivets go, and the handles I glued on in place of a ladder. I am using a lot of old tank pieces from various GW kits I have assembled over the years.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/3249895636_ba021963a6_b.jpg)
Here is a closer view of the back, with the boiler and smokestack in clear view. You can also see the steering wheel I have added to the command superstructure. I am also happy to have found a railing solution - the posts are toothpicks, and I have drilled small holes in them near the top, and am planning to run thread through them as a rope railing. Easier to replace in the humid jungles of Venus.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/3249895780_b3b09666b4_b.jpg)
Now I just have to scrape together the funds for the 6' naval rifle and 2 12lbers on pintle mounts from Reviresco, and a couple of the steel doors.
I also added a GW battle cannon to the bottom, but I am not convinced it was a good addition yet. I am going to keep looking at it, and see what I think. Opinions are welcome.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/3249106769_98c8725c7c_b.jpg)
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Great piece of work. Now, the concept of the "chin gun" is great (to bombard the villages of those uppity Venusian villagers), but the execution by battlecannon is sub-par. IŽd say, keep the gun position, but replace the gun, it just looks too modern for a convincing VSF feel.
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Like this very much indeed, but I do agree that the chin gun, while a good concept, looks to modern. You might be able to crank the VSF nature of the gun up a notch by adding a gun-shield, and some rivets, where appropriate. Perhaps you could fill in the muzzle breaks, too. That would give it a slightly more 19th century feel, I'd wager.
-Doc
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I think the gun position in good but I agree with the comments above. I think the main problem with the gun barrel is that it is too recognisable for what it is. Definitely needs disguised a bit. I think filling in the muzzle breaks is a good idea.
The rest of the ship is great :-*
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Wow,
That looks quite kewl. Coming along very well.
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Very nice and impressive!!
If you make the undercarriage removable it can be doubled as an ocean going vessel,too!
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Project coming along very well and thank you for the updates.
One suggestion concerning the railings. Why not add a small round bead to the top of the toothpick and thread the rope/wire through it?
I hope this helps.
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
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Regarding the chin cannon, why don't you just saw it off behind the muzzle break.
Make it look stubbier.
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Very nice and impressive!!
If you make the undercarriage removable it can be doubled as an ocean going vessel,too!
Nice thought, but we're about 2 days too far for that to work. I tend to overbuild things, and there is no way that thing is coming apart without severe breakage.
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Project coming along very well and thank you for the updates.
One suggestion concerning the railings. Why not add a small round bead to the top of the toothpick and thread the rope/wire through it?
I hope this helps.
Tony
http://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/
Oh my. I have a huge bag of beads right beside my workspace, and I never even considered that option. Consider this idea stolen.
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Absolutely stunning.
Not sure about the chin mount though - the gun doesn't look at all right.
Maybe some kind of bomb rail might be a better ground attack option - perhaps something like a 1940s depth charge rack ?
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Very nice and impressive!!
If you make the undercarriage removable it can be doubled as an ocean going vessel,too!
Nice thought, but we're about 2 days too far for that to work. I tend to overbuild things, and there is no way that thing is coming apart without severe breakage.
Mmm let's think .......
OK the new invention of Victorian Science (or better LAFers VSF) is time to be revealed :
submarine/underwater gun
[Ok you will find the next problem: how underwater parts can be displayed on a water line model one the table!
More thinking ........
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sorry no results yet]
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It's coming along great. And fast! You sure you're not German? I wasn't too sure about that cockpit at first but it's starting to look like less of an afterthought and more of an integrated component. Question: How do you cut your plasticard? It looks pretty darn thick and I'm wondering how you cut straight lines, as well as the angled edges.
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It's coming along great. And fast! You sure you're not German? I wasn't too sure about that cockpit at first but it's starting to look like less of an afterthought and more of an integrated component. Question: How do you cut your plasticard? It looks pretty darn thick and I'm wondering how you cut straight lines, as well as the angled edges.
My grandparents were from the old country on my father's side - and from Norway on my mother's. So there is enough Teutonic to increase my efficiency greatly!
I use a sharp exacto knife blade and a metal straight edge - I used to do custom fabrication with plastics (spent ten years at it) before I went into a sales position, so I am never surprised at how a material works anymore.
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Aha! We are almost done. I just need to scrape together the funds for the Reviresco guns I want to use, and we'll be ready to rumble.
Here is the side, with the ridiculous number of pins for rivets.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3261079513_d2a92ac9b1_b.jpg)
Here is the front view. I added a searchlight to the front, and you can see how I cut the battle cannon down - it looks much better this way. I also added some shields from Empire swordsmen to the front corners to give it a little more flavor. The bead idea was a very good one, and you can see the rope rails.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/3261907466_645a1582de_b.jpg)
This is, of course, the other side.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3261079821_6d87d35302_b.jpg)
This is a closeup of the rear of the vessel.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3261907724_8b9f055d13_b.jpg)
I went for a closer view of the ladder/handholds I set up on the side. This was me saying no to a rope ladder setup, and not caring for stairs.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3337/3261907982_8f3bd2cf2b_b.jpg)
Another view of the searchlight and battle cannon.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3338/3261080377_c63e01aea6_b.jpg)
A view of the inside of the command structure.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/3261908366_9983fc124c_b.jpg)
And a shot with my German Zeppelin Troopers on board for scale, and a bit of color. The gun is my lascannon for them - as I have said before, my Imperial Guard army for GW 40K is made up of Murch's germans.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3431/3261967452_f4907d53fc_b.jpg)
Next, I need to get the 6' naval rifle from Reviresco, and a couple of 12lb quick firing guns on pintle mounts, and then I can paint it.
Whattay think?
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SO nice! I have a suggestion for you though. Lose the lion shields on the bow. Go to any crafts store (such as Michaels, here in the USA) and look among the buttons and pendants for silhouettes. These ALWAYS look Victorian/Edwardian.
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Very, very, very, very nice!
I really like the way you set up the hull and superstructure.
Now all we need is a bit of paint! ;)
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Three things from me.
1. The Deck cannon, I am sure you are planning to do something with this, because the way it is looks like it would just roll off the deck.
2. a Deck hatch in the superstructure so they can get inside.
3. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic :o :o ;D
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Three things from me.
1. The Deck cannon, I am sure you are planning to do something with this, because the way it is looks like it would just roll off the deck.
2. a Deck hatch in the superstructure so they can get inside.
3. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic :o :o ;D
Three replies:
1: The deck cannon was merely there for scale - I am ordering the 6" cannon from Reviresco to put in that location.
2: There is one - you can't see it from any of the angles. Allow me to remedy that - and show that I am now putting a coat of paint on it. I am going with a medium blue gray for the base coat, and will wing it from there.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3325/3261802951_68dd75472e_b.jpg)
3: Thank you. :D
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Dunno...
If you haven't order the gun yet, you might consider the 8" Rifled Muzzle Loader on Pintle Mount (http://www.tin-soldier.com/8RML.htm). This is the gun I was first thinking about buying. It is a large gun which swivels about from front to side and just looks, at least to me... dominating.
The 6" which I have, I ended up getting because I decided I want a gun that was in a protected area, and it seemed to be more appropriate. The 6" also has some small and fragile pieces, so beware that it may be easily damaged.
Whatever your choice a BIG gun will serve you well. :D
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Dunno...
If you haven't order the gun yet, you might consider the 8" Rifled Muzzle Loader on Pintle Mount (http://www.tin-soldier.com/8RML.htm). This is the gun I was first thinking about buying. It is a large gun which swivels about from front to side and just looks, at least to me... dominating.
The 6" which I have, I ended up getting because I decided I want a gun that was in a protected area, and it seemed to be more appropriate. The 6" also has some small and fragile pieces, so beware that it may be easily damaged.
Whatever your choice a BIG gun will serve you well. :D
I had considered it, but I don't care for the look of that style compared to a pintle mount, so I'd rather get the one you have. Besides, I also have the downward pointing big guy - which has got to be at least an 18" barrel diameter in scale.
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Absolutely stunning work o_o o_oCan't believe how fast you have put this together :oCan't wait to see the finished project!
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What did you use for the rivets?
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What did you use for the rivets?
Sewing pins. I would drill a pilot hole, and then use a thimble to push it into place.
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Nice. I saw what appeared to be holes prior to asking. A nice move, as it gives the plating extra support. Very clever. Thanks for the answer.
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By 'sabre saw', you're talking about a handheld reciprocating saw, right? What blade are you using to cut the foam with? And where can I get the foam? A sign supply store?
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I actually have one that is a tabletop reciprocating model, so it is easier to work with. HDU Foam is usually avaiable at sign shops and suppliers of same - brand names would be Precision Board, SignFoam, and Corafoam. Google 'em - heck, you might even be able to talk them into sending you samples.
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Any update on your progress? another Nef i cant wait to see completed.
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Any update on your progress? another Nef i cant wait to see completed.
I am holding off on working on it until my stimulus package shows up, so I can mount the guns and then finish painting it. Glad to see you are watching, though - and I am designing an even larger one right now.
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Any update on your progress? another Nef i cant wait to see completed.
I am holding off on working on it until my stimulus package shows up, so I can mount the guns and then finish painting it. Glad to see you are watching, though - and I am designing an even larger one right now.
A real arms race, we have here!
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Well, the guns from Revisresco are here, and let the painting begin!
Here, we have a side view, fully armed. I made the guns removable, so that I can switch should I need to, and as importantly, spin them on the axis.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3327891784_955ba6c627_b.jpg)
Here is a close-up of the 6" cannon. I love this beast. Apologies for the lack of focus - I could not get it to be any better.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3657/3327058197_05155b51fa_b.jpg)
Here we have the wonderful Philomena Cartwright (a Pulp Figures Heroine I painted for one of my wife's RPG characters) giving us an idea of scale.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/3327058359_6d068c60a7_b.jpg)
Now off to slap some more paint on this beastie!
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Very nice. I like your choice of colors. Remind me, how did you do your stanchions?
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Very nice and very heavily armed.
Did you say which flag it is going to fly under? Its got to be British because otherwise my poor wee thing would not stand a chance against it. (Not that they are likely to meet, big ocean and all that!)
Have you thought about crew?
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The easiest way to get a better pic of that cannon, is to have the camera further away, probably about 30cm. You'll notice everything in the background is properly focused. To get the final picture the same as the others, turn the quality setting of the camera up for that shot. It'll probably come out bigger, but you can crop it down to the bit you want.
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Indeed a very nice choice of colours!
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Yep... she's coming along really nice.
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Very nice. I like your choice of colors. Remind me, how did you do your stanchions?
Toothpick with a bead glued to the top. Was someone's idea earlier in the thread. I was not too proud to steal it. :D
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Very nice and very heavily armed.
Did you say which flag it is going to fly under? Its got to be British because otherwise my poor wee thing would not stand a chance against it. (Not that they are likely to meet, big ocean and all that!)
Have you thought about crew?
She is the HMS Mjollnir, flying the colors of Free Norway, the first Scandinavian colony on Mars. I am going to convert some old 4-armed oni from Clan War to be Green Martians from the John Carter series as allies.
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Yep... she's coming along really nice.
Considering the precise level of awesome that your vessel is achieving, I'll very much take that as a compliment.
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Well...
Each builder seems to have their own distinctive style. I really like the way you construct your hulls, very nice. Your painting technique also looks jolly good.
So yes, a big thumbs up here from me.
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Well, I was going to post pictures of the finished KNM Mjollnir, but then I remembered I was going to use it as the background for my round 6 entry, with the finished Norwegian soldiers. Think I should post it anyway? It won't count as a figure.
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Screw it. I'm posting them.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3521053308_36f7e878c6_b.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3520241997_e83eaf6803_b.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3521053118_0bc09a6c52_b.jpg)
Gentlemen and ladies, His Majesty's ship, the KMN Mjollnir, at your service.
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Very cool.
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Oh - wow! That's grand :) :) 8) 8) 8)
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WOW :-*
Great paint job.
Are the crew the LPL entry?
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Excellent :-*
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Berry, Berry, Berry Nice!
Well done mate, she came out a real treat!
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Are you bringing this Baby to Enfilade?
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Are you bringing this Baby to Enfilade?
Is there a reason to? I am hoping to drop in to Enfilade for a day, but it depends on the rest of my schedule. I've never been to one before.
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WOW :-*
Great paint job.
Are the crew the LPL entry?
One of them is the crew (almost done!) and the other is the 'aerorines' (can hardly ne marines, now can they, being dropped off by an aeronef?) who are happily complete in two squads.
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KEWL!!!!
thanks
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Damned impressive old boy!
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Looks excellent.
Im very very impressed how all the bits blend together .
Are you going to add it to the Sticky with the other flyers?
Now hurry up and do the aircraft carrier :)
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Looks excellent.
Im very very impressed how all the bits blend together .
Are you going to add it to the Sticky with the other flyers?
Now hurry up and do the aircraft carrier :)
I am going to add it once I get a better photo set of it. I get home too late in the evening to get good lighting, so I am going to take a few shots this weekend. The aircraft carrier is next, after I paint soem crew members, and then get my hands on some other bits done.