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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Sir Rodney Ffing on October 08, 2016, 06:20:23 PM
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What do those who game the NWF consider to be the most popular time period in war-games terms? Is it the 1870s, 1890s, pre WW1, inter war or something else?
I am wondering whether to take the plunge, inspired by TMWWBK, and would feel safest staying in the mainstream. :D
Comments and suggestions appreciated, thanks.
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You're spoilt for choice and, provided you're not a complete purist who worries whether your figures are modelled with Martini-Henrys or magazine rifles, most are useable throughout the 50-60 year span of NWF wars covered by MWWBK.
If you want to be more focused, take a look at the Second Afghan War (1878-80) which gives you everything from the death of Cavagnari, Maiwand etc with all the classic troop types featured.
Then there's about 15 different expeditions over the next 20 years, but the Chitral, Boner, Tochi and Tirah Expeditions are probably best known for the 1890's.
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I like the period 1879-1898, myself. But I'm not so bothered about the full accuracy of weaponry on the models, so I use many of the same models for all parts of the period in question. If that sort of tomfoolery offends your sensibilities, you'll obviously have to choose. If I were to have to choose, I might go for the 2nd Afghan War because I could get Afghan regulars in as well as everything else...and Artizan models for that parer of the NW Frontier period are so very cool!!!
Good luck and may you never lose control of the Khyber Pass...
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I will second and third the previous two respondants: if you care a lot about historical accuracy when it comes to weapons, equipment and uniforms of your figures, then the Second Afghan War of 1878-1880 is an excellent choice, as you can incorporate probably the widest range of opposition forces, including tribal infantry and cavalry, Afghan regular Inf, Cav, and Artillery, and top it all off with Ghazi religious fanatics, and it is also a somewhat "popular" sub-genre of colonial India gaming. On the Anglo-indian side you also can field a more colorful and varied force than if you went specifically for the various later 1890s Frontier expeditions, when just about all the British and Indian troops -- other than Highlanders in kilts or trews -- wore nothing but khaki.
(In full disclosure I will admit that the Second Afghan War happens to be my own favorite historical period!)
Along with the full khaki uniforms, those later NWF campaigns mentioned above -- such as the expeditions and campaigns in Hazara (1888), the Black Mountains (1891), Waziristan (1894), Chitral (1895), and the various Malakand, Tochi, Tirah, and Swat Expeditions (1897-98) -- offer magazine-fed Lee-Metford rifles and Maxim guns, which can make for a different sort of game from the previous generation of modern weaponry.
But as has also been noted above, if you're not that fixated on historical detail you can pretty much get away with fielding the same British and Indian troops from say 1878 until clear through to the turn of the 20th Century, after which British helmet styles start to change and Gurkhas start replacing their trademark pillbox caps with more recent trademark slouch hats.
Whatever you choose to do, have fun and if you somehow do manage to lose control of the Khyber Pass, for heaven's sake, launch a major expedition to retake it again!
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Thanks chaps for your suggestions. If I'm honest, I probably fret more over historical accuracy than I should, so would like to narrow things down time wise (hence my original question), while still having several campaign options. By the sound of it, starting with the Second Afghan War would be a good choice, but I do like khaki too and am interested in the late 1890s. If I am willing to overlook the change from Martin-Henry to Lee- Metford rifles, how early can I field khaki uniforms?
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Second Afghan War, hence my original point. Ok, some native regiments may have worn more colourful turbans and puttees may have been different colours then, but you could easily do both periods all in khaki if you were prepared to have some historical licence. And from tabletop distance, the difference between a Martini Henry and a Lee Metford in 28mm is negligible...but then I'm really more about the feel for the period than the fine detail so ignoring such things is easy for me... ;)
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Andy - penny drops, thank you and that probably decides it then. In my defence, I was up veeeeery early today to watch the Grand Prix and am not quite at my sharpest.
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Sir Rodney,
There's really only one notable big frontier campaign I know of between the end of the Mutiny and start of the Second Afghan War, Ambela (1863), and the troops who fought it looked a bit different from "classic" late 19th Century Anglo-Indian colonial troops. As Andy reiterated above, you will be in pretty good shape using c.1880 or c.1898 Brits and Indians for anything from the 1878 start of the Second Afghan War until the Tirah Campaign of 1897-98. As Andy also said, though the uniforms of many British and Indian troops at the start of this period contained one or two pieces of more colorful uniform details, some of them were already wearing all khaki even in 1878, and the difference in weaponry, though significant, is not so visually striking on the miniature tabletop. Mixing and matching and intermingling troops from the start and end of this period is just a matter of personal preference.
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Andy - penny drops, thank you and that probably decides it then. In my defence, I was up veeeeery early today to watch the Grand Prix and am not quite at my sharpest.
Worry ye not, Sir Rodney! Just make sure the bayonets are always fixed and at their sharpest and all shall be well on the Frontier!! :D
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MWWBK is a great set of rules for the period, as I'm sure Andy will agree.
There are some very characterful 28mm figures out there, but consider substituting a base of 3-4 15mm figures for each single 28mm: a unit of 36-48 Brits is going to look like a real company, and should cost about the same. There are some great figures from Blue Moon and Warrior Miniatures, and I challenge anyone to spot the difference between a Martini Henry and a Lee Metford in 15mm from 2-3' away!
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I challenge anyone to spot the difference between a Martini Henry and a Lee Metford in 15mm from 2-3' away!
With my eyesight I would probably fail that one in 28mm never mind 15mm.
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Definitely 2nd Afghan War.
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2nd Afghan War for my money
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For me it would be the First Afghan War (what can I say, Flashman was a big influence on me), and the 1898 rising. That's if I were ever going to game this region - which I ain't. :)
But as the question was which is the most popular, then I would probably say a vague 1880s-1890s period incorporating the 2nd Afghan War, often with no questions asked as to exactly when the game is supposed to be set (nothing wrong with that, by the way). That's what seems to get gamed.
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I'll join my right honourables and echo the Second Afghan War. That said, however, the whole 1897-98 uprising period is loaded with actions. One big difference with the Second Afghan War as compared to other NWF timeframes, is that you will need Afghan Army units (you will not need them for the 1897-98 period; it's all tribal).
Therefore, if you want to start out small, just putting together tribal units, then I suggest start with the 1897-98 actions, and then branch out from there.
Now all that said, for a much better "game" between the forces, actions that occur when the British/Indian units are using pre-breechloading rifles is quite satisfying, as it gives some nail-biting actions. [The second part of my article with two 1852 actions should appear in WI mag at some point, for an example of earlier actions.]
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1897-8 Rising is what I do in 28mm, mainly because there is huge scope for grand skirmish (using units of 8-16 figures but only having 6-10 units per side in a game) and proper skirmish style actions (1 man = 1 man).
There are no big actions in this nasty little punch up but plenty of small scale stuff.
I second ecwcaptain in that to get things moving paint up tribal forces that work for both.
There are more tribal figures available now than when I started but I have Pathan Jezail armed figures from the old Foundry (Perry) ranges and more modern stuff from the Empress range; they carry Lee Enfields I think but unless you are a stickler, and I'm not, its a Pathan with a rifle, so it could be a Martini Henry or a Lee Metford (nicked in a previous action).
For the Second Afghan War we game 15mm using Battle for Empire rules which handle the big actions rather well.
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I currently flit been the Second Afghan War and, a new project, the Third Afghan War (1919) - the latter provides some very interesting games and is well worth a look at. If pushed I'd say try something different and go for the post WW1 campaigns but I'm a bit biased at the moment!
Another interesting "what if" is introducing a C19th Russian field force or "the Great Game gone hot"? Or even Reds in the Pass post 1918? So much potential to game and, as pointed out, a lot of the tribesmen figures stretch across the whole period.
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The 1897 rising is my favoured period, simply because the whole frontier flared up and there are so many interesting actions of varying sizes. Having said that, I am proud to be one of those gamers whose games are set in that indeterminate 1880-1900 period with often entirely made-up tribal uprisings in fictional border states of entirely my own devising. Much fun to be had that way!! I do have some 2nd Afghan War Afghan regulars to paint at some point, but somehow I always currently end up in the the Tandoor Valley (or similar...) battling Jalfrezi tribesmen (or similar...) It's always fun... :D
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but somehow I always currently end up in the the Tandoor Valley (or similar...) battling Jalfrezi tribesmen (or similar...) It's always fun.
I'm a stickler for historical accuracy, daal though it may sometimes be, so naan of that lark for me.
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Have to say I'm going generic 1880-1900 myself....I would stick mainly to the 1879-1882-ish period but the Britannia Miniatures Pathan Revolt range are just too nice not to include! Size-wise they fit in well with the rest of my collection which is so far predominantly Artizan.