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Title: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 12, 2016, 01:03:22 PM
Guys

Looking to do a few different flags that can be used for Congo. Just some Generic British, German, French and Belgian flags. These can be used by Troops and Camps.

Can anyone think of anything else that would be good to add?  :D
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Sir Rodney Ffing on October 12, 2016, 02:25:04 PM
There is the Zanzibari flag, although it seems to have been plain red!
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: cdr on October 12, 2016, 05:04:08 PM
Congo free state flag ?

Carl
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Kommando_J on October 12, 2016, 06:22:01 PM
A yankee flag?
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Rob Herrick on October 12, 2016, 10:22:15 PM
Guys

Looking to do a few different flags that can be used for Congo. Just some Generic British, German, French and Belgian flags. These can be used by Troops and Camps.

Can anyone think of anything else that would be good to add?  :D

As mentioned below, you need an American flag suitable for the Stanley expedition, and every Congo Free State Company carried the yellow star on a medium blue background flag.

Also as mentioned, caravans of Zanzibar carried the blood red flag. While it seems simple, a shaded one sounds like a good investment.

German East African expeditions carried black, white, red horizontal tricolors. There's also flags for various troops of the Abushiri rebellion, an example of which is here: https://www.flagcollection.com/itemdetails.php?CollectionItem_ID=2664

You might also want to do some Mahdist flags, there was a good deal of skirmishing down in Equatoria, which Congo rules might be suitable for. Egyptian and Sudanese troops had company flags, which also might be useful for Equatoria, or Mahdists in general.

Italians carried flags as late as Adowa, so those would be useful.
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Plynkes on October 13, 2016, 09:57:43 AM
Explorers often carried the flag of the Sultan of Zanzibar as well as that of their own country. In fact, just about everybody from trade caravans to local chiefs did the same, in the hope that it would dissuade any attacks, as it implied one had the Sultan's protection, and thus you might be risking his retaliation by attacking.

Local Arab leaders would have their own version of the Sultan's red flag, distinguishing themselves by adding strips of white or blue cloth to it (either horizontal or vertical). There is one eyewitness account of a band of askari-for-hire who carried a white flag with inscriptions from the Koran on it.


One thing to remember if you are into all things Portuguese is that they had a different flag in the 19th Century: it was white and blue, rather than the green and red one we're familiar with today. This flag was carried by all sorts of ne'er-do-wells such as the mixed-race Mambari slaving gangs and the Chikunda slavers, gun-runners and elephant hunters. It was a similar situation to that with the Zanizibari flag. Even though these groups generally had no official connection to the Portuguese state, they hoped the flag would afford them some protection.

Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 13, 2016, 11:37:27 AM
Cheers guys, this gives me something to work with :)
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 19, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
Got a few of the flags mentioned done. Hopefully get them up on the website soon.
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Sir Rodney Ffing on October 19, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
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Got a few of the flags mentioned done. Hopefully get them up on the website soon.

Well that was quick work!  Which ones?
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 19, 2016, 04:45:59 PM
Congo Free State
Britain
Germany
USA
France
Belgium
Zanzibar
Portugal
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Sir Rodney Ffing on October 19, 2016, 06:19:16 PM
Great!  I need Britain, Congo and Zanzibar as a start  lol
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Plynkes on October 20, 2016, 09:19:27 AM
Curious to know which U.S. flag you went for, as they had about five or six different ones between the 1880s and the start of the Great War, what with so many territories becoming states in that period. :)

(My favourite is the 1890 one, as I think it is the last one that had the stars in a circular formation, which looks much cooler than the current arrangement.)
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 20, 2016, 10:35:05 AM
Curious to know which U.S. flag you went for, as they had about five or six different ones between the 1880s and the start of the Great War, what with so many territories becoming states in that period. :)

(My favourite is the 1890 one, as I think it is the last one that had the stars in a circular formation, which looks much cooler than the current arrangement.)

I went for the 37 stars (1867–77) as i was doing it based on the first Stanley expedition (1874-1877). Always happy to do a few more as well.
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Kommando_J on October 20, 2016, 01:29:54 PM
An Egyptian/Sudanese flag might be an idea, plenty of slaver groups started off in Khartoum rather than Zanzibar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Egypt
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 21, 2016, 09:10:27 AM
An Egyptian/Sudanese flag might be an idea, plenty of slaver groups started off in Khartoum rather than Zanzibar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Egypt

I can get them done no problem
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Ray Earle on October 21, 2016, 10:32:17 AM
Quick! Get them on the site!  ;)
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 21, 2016, 11:03:05 AM
Ill try and get the up tonight or tomorrow :)
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 23, 2016, 01:07:02 AM
Here you go Ray :)

http://www.flagsofwar.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=66_179
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: sjwalker51 on October 23, 2016, 09:16:09 AM
They look great. Any chance of an extra German set with flags suitable for Kriegsmarine landing parties and Schutztruppe/Askari units? The designs are much cooler than the usual German one, and we all like pretty flags!
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: cdr on October 23, 2016, 09:24:32 AM
There is also a flag for the BA TETELA rebellion (ca 1899)

http://abergo1.e-monsite.com/album/eic-histoire/drapeau-des-rebelles-batetela.html

Carl

ps Belgian and Free State flags were not used together
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: cdr on October 23, 2016, 09:33:04 AM
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=drapeau+batetela&view=detailv2&&id=3671934059C2B411CD3FF02CF1391491324AF92A&selectedIndex=1&ccid=P9OGtmbv&simid=607999329726104860&thid=OIP.M3fd386b666ef3f3d2df033b4e05ca259o0&ajaxhist=0

this should have some flags as used by Arab expeditions
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 23, 2016, 09:33:36 AM
They look great. Any chance of an extra German set with flags suitable for Kriegsmarine landing parties and Schutztruppe/Askari units? The designs are much cooler than the usual German one, and we all like pretty flags!

Yes. I have plans to add these ones 👍
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: flags_of_war on October 23, 2016, 09:36:15 AM
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=drapeau+batetela&view=detailv2&&id=3671934059C2B411CD3FF02CF1391491324AF92A&selectedIndex=1&ccid=P9OGtmbv&simid=607999329726104860&thid=OIP.M3fd386b666ef3f3d2df033b4e05ca259o0&ajaxhist=0

this should have some flags as used by Arab expeditions

They look great. Very hard for me to make out what is on them though 😢
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Ray Earle on October 23, 2016, 10:52:45 AM
Oh, they're lovely.  :-*

Will need to add a couple of these to my expedition.   :D
Title: Re: Colonial Flags for the Congo
Post by: Sir Rodney Ffing on October 24, 2016, 10:08:42 AM
Well, I have to say the images on the website look very nice, and I have ordered mine!   :D