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Title: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: levied troop on November 02, 2016, 03:31:21 PM
I rather like the medieval period, my first proper armies were French and English 100YW - now relocated to France -  and I wanted to redo the armies.  But starting with the 2nd Barons War and gradually expanding up to 1370.  So the first dozen units should give me a usable force for the Baron’s War but ideally should be able to double up as different units as required in the future.

For the first of these the Lincoln coat of arms seemed appropriate, as it could double as a ‘false’ French militia force in the English employ for the 100YW or even as a Genoese force in French service.

Basing is steel washers in sabot bases so that they can be nicely rules-neutral, the initial bases give me 2x6 man units for Lion Rampant but there are alternate bases that will give me 3x4 man bases for DBx:


Unit 1 - The Lincoln Militia spears

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0513_zpss6wwthtl.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0513_zpss6wwthtl.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0515_zpswp3n7dmr.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0515_zpswp3n7dmr.jpg.html)

Unit 2 - The Lincoln Militia archers

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0518_zps862lh4ax.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0518_zps862lh4ax.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0519_zpsxwttcxn6.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0519_zpsxwttcxn6.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0521_zps0gmfc45a.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0521_zps0gmfc45a.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0522_zpsd3qmfyqc.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0522_zpsd3qmfyqc.jpg.html)


All figures are Curtey’s Miniatures


Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: OSHIROmodels on November 02, 2016, 07:16:46 PM
Very nice  8)

cheers

James
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Anderson Collection on November 02, 2016, 07:31:30 PM
Good looking units well done
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: rampantlion on November 03, 2016, 04:14:53 PM
Great work! 
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Gibby on November 03, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
Ah, fine Lincoln soldiers if I ever I saw some! :D

Lots of cool history surrounding Lincoln in this period as well, it's nice to see someone touch upon it in miniature!
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: fred on November 03, 2016, 06:05:29 PM
Very nice set of troops.

What is quite strange, is that I grew up near Linclon, and that the first figures I painted were in red and white halved livery. But I didn't know it was the livery for Lincoln until just now!
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Jeff965 on November 03, 2016, 09:24:58 PM
Lovely brushwork, more please.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: rumacara on November 05, 2016, 08:00:48 PM
Very good painting. :-* :-*
Keep it coming.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Codsticker on November 06, 2016, 02:43:59 PM
Great work, love the sabot bases. I painted my first Curtey's this past summer and found them a joy to paint.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Romark on November 06, 2016, 03:55:11 PM
Nice work on those minis,they look great  :)
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Miantanomo on November 08, 2016, 12:32:01 AM
Those are fine looking miniatures, especially with those paintjobs!
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: levied troop on November 15, 2016, 10:59:33 AM
Thanks for the kind comments chaps.

Next up:

Unit 3 - Sherwood Foresters
A bunch of the local shire wood chaps, hunters, poachers, gamekeepers.  Possibly better than your average militia.  Green and white seems to have been a common colour for archers, the addition of a unicorn to the standard is entirely fanciful (like the rest of my flags, the symbol is a transfer taken from an ageing GW sheet which seems to have survived quite well from 1991). If anyone knows what the standards of ordinary i.e. non-noble, medieval foot units looked like, don’t keep it to yourself  :)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0523_zpsniaunvin.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0523_zpsniaunvin.jpg.html)



Unit 4 - French mercenary crossbowmen
The King will employ these foreign specialists. Obviously extendable into the 100YW as French militia:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0527_zps2ceocmxb.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0527_zps2ceocmxb.jpg.html)



(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0528_zpsuort9q0i.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0528_zpsuort9q0i.jpg.html)

An attempt at improving my lousy photography:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0533_zpsap0ouuud.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0533_zpsap0ouuud.jpg.html)

Again, figures are Curteys.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Dez on November 15, 2016, 03:17:37 PM
Nottingem

(https://pp.vk.me/c633825/v633825657/caa8/_by1yN7Bv9E.jpg)
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: levied troop on November 15, 2016, 06:35:31 PM
Thanks Dez.

I'll give that a go for the next foot unit I start.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Unlucky General on November 16, 2016, 04:07:53 AM
I just love the Curtey's Miniatures myself - I'm particularly fond of their spear armed foot soldiers. How do you think their archers compare?
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: tomrommel1 on November 16, 2016, 09:17:16 AM
very nice units indeed
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: levied troop on November 16, 2016, 02:38:19 PM
I just love the Curtey's Miniatures myself - I'm particularly fond of their spear armed foot soldiers. How do you think their archers compare?

I think they are fine, its a good range. Although not a great fan of the mounted figures, a little static for my liking.

Speaking of spear armed figures
Unit 5 - Ribauds or brigans or assorted light infantry
My favourite unit so far, they seem to me to be close to what quite a lot of medieval infantry looked liked.  I’ll need a couple more of these units.  Red seems to crop up a lot as a standard cloth colour.  No obvious source for the standard, it just looked right.  Figures are a mix of Curteys, Essex and BTD, with a couple of falx from (I think) a Tom Meir weapons sprue:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0531_zpseg2ah18d.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0531_zpseg2ah18d.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0529_zpstluiwjz3.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0529_zpstluiwjz3.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0528_zps60qak90a.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0528_zps60qak90a.jpg.html)

They seem to have acquired a slight gloss, once the weather’s settled I’ll take them outside for another matt spray.

Unit 6 - A city militia
Any old city, but clearly prosperous.  The sun standard crops up in a couple of medieval illustrations, on the flag its a LBM transfer, on the shields it’s the old GW transfer. Curteys figures again::

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0537_zpsctxarfkg.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0537_zpsctxarfkg.jpg.html)


(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0535_zpsiyffkigx.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0535_zpsiyffkigx.jpg.html)


(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0538_zpsemmmmnss.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0538_zpsemmmmnss.jpg.html)

2 more foot units and 2 mounted units to finish this stage, hopefully by Christmas.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Jeff965 on November 16, 2016, 09:17:49 PM
Lovely little army :-*
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Momotaro on November 16, 2016, 11:31:47 PM
This is looking great!  I know several of the local wargamers are planning a demo game for the 800th anniversary of the Battle of Lincoln, so I'm looking forward to seeing what you're doing too!
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: jamesmanto on November 17, 2016, 02:39:34 AM
Very pretty!
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: tomrommel1 on November 17, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
nice additions
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: Little Odo on November 18, 2016, 09:50:35 AM
Very nice - and a period not seen often represented on the tabletop
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: levied troop on June 15, 2017, 01:46:24 PM
Back with more units, done earlier this year.   I forgot the Nottingham banner Dez kindly posted, but I've got two more units to do so it'll get used for one of them, hopefully soon.

Unit 7 - Sir Humphrey Desordre and the Knights of Violent Affray

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0214_zpsd8ounmhk.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0214_zpsd8ounmhk.jpg.html)


Unit 8 - Spear armed militia, possibly a more Yorkshire-based town
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0216_zpsqwzo6epu.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0216_zpsqwzo6epu.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0217_zpsc8ovd2dy.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0217_zpsc8ovd2dy.jpg.html)

Unit 9 - A garrison unit of crossbows, probably church sponsored although their trumpeter hints at a local wealthy Knight who may appear in later units;

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0218_zpsuprjunay.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0218_zpsuprjunay.jpg.html)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0219_zpseotscqpx.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0219_zpseotscqpx.jpg.html)

Unit 10 - Archers raised by an ecclesiastical gentleman, possibly the Bishop of Norwich (I seem to recall an invasion of the Low Countires led by said gentleman in the 14th C):

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0220_zpsyat8vjpk.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0220_zpsyat8vjpk.jpg.html)


(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0221_zpshot1qq1b.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0221_zpshot1qq1b.jpg.html)

Unit 11a - in Lion Rampant terms these are Bidowers, a smaller unit of aggressive countrymen with pointy sticks and stones:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0222_zpsytmbykm3.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0222_zpsytmbykm3.jpg.html)

Unit 11b - More Bidowers:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0223_zpsumgrgptm.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0223_zpsumgrgptm.jpg.html)

Unit 12 - More archers:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0224_zps0mcego7j.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0224_zps0mcego7j.jpg.html)

And, not so much a unit as a temptation to the honest soldiery:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m246/leviedtroop/Barons%20War/DSC_0226_zps9hzka5tw.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/leviedtroop/media/Barons%20War/DSC_0226_zps9hzka5tw.jpg.html)

I can see I need to touch up her right hand  ;)
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: GamesPoet on June 15, 2017, 01:54:36 PM
This project seems to be coming along nicely, congrats!
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: rampantlion on June 15, 2017, 04:54:24 PM
Really nice work!  Love the time period too.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: westwaller on June 16, 2017, 09:40:14 AM
I agree that there is not a lot in the way of a dedicated Barons War range, but there is quite a lot of suitable medieval miniatures that would also fit from the likes of Fireforge games, Blacktree design,Gripping Beast, Essex and Crusader Miniatures.

Admittedly it takes a bit of research and supposition to work out what equipment is suitable, but the miniatures are there- often in later 'Crusades ranges'.

A lot of the Foundry Barons war knights are a bit too fantastical IMHO. Nice miniatures but more Oldhammer than Historical.
Title: Re: 2nd Baron's War
Post by: levied troop on June 17, 2017, 07:13:38 AM
Great stuff.
Any chance of some in-game pictures, even if they're just posed? I want to see them all together.

Thanks.  They've had two outings on the table  so far, but no photography.  I'll see what I can do about a photo shoot.

I find Curteys great figures personally.  As always I want more pose variety and more dead/wounded but they do work for me. However there's also some Foundry in there and Perry's Crusader range supplies a couple of the slingers and Essex have provided a tubby standard bearer.  The only range I can't get on with is Gripping Beast, I find the anatomy a little squashed.

The last two foot units are started but have to take a back seat while I work on another project. But once they're out of the way I can start on noble men on big horses  :)