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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Arthur on November 04, 2016, 03:15:23 PM
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Three-ups for the 1877-1884 British infantry, which will be the next Perry plastic set :
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Great selection, and the home service helmet option is going to make a lot of people very happy.
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Looking forward to this set immensely I have to say!
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Well, what do you know, and we just happen to be doing Anglo Zulu War at the store club next year :D I wonder if plastic Zulus will follow?
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Nice! I can find a use for them. :)
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By gum, but they look good :-*
So much period character. Look like they've stepped straight from a sepia photograph...
Surely Perry plastic Zulus can only be a matter of time...
(Going to have to slap a lot of poly cement on all those bare African shoulders through, to conceal the joints... )
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Plastic Home Service helmets will be nice ... metal models seem to have to make the spike far too large in order for it to survive casting.
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OMG!!!!! :o
YES! YES! YES! :-*
I knew they were in the queue, but I dared not dream they would look this good! o_o
I think I feel my megalomania kicking in. I MUST HAVE THESE!
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These lovelies will more or less complete my son's Zulu War field force! He already has two units of Zulu's courtesy of Black Tree Design and Warlord Games but i'm sure a box or two of Perry's finest wouldn't go amiss too?
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seem very useful minis..including spare parts like, for ex. spiked helmet heads that could placed on Perry Plastic ACW cavalry and with some minor milliput additions tarnsformed in Natal Mounted Police or other similar volunteer units..
The Eliograph is a real must...useful for every Colonial front or nation ...and if you want a double way comunucation for your wargame table a couple of them could be available at cheapest price than the few metal sets available..what puzzled me is the guy with AZW type red coat and legs with puttees..a strange combination nor really seen in AZW..but in any case a useful set.
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@italwars
The "AZW type red coat and legs with puttees" is explained on the Perry Facebook post. The AZW 3-ups were already at Renedra when they took the photograph so they substituted a British in Sudan body and legs.
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Use the braided patrol jacket body with martini arms and a black and khaki colour scheme and you've got an NNC officer sorted.
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Perry first class stuff every time, just having a dip into their Sudan British Infantry. Look's like we can mix and match box set's.
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I'm sold on these already...so much versatility within one box!
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They look good. If they had come out with these about a year ago I would have not bought all the Black Tree figures that I have as they are noticeably larger than Empress, Foundry and Warlord AZW figures. I suspect that the Perry figures would look much better.
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My son doesn't mind too much...he'll happily put up with reasonable size variances?
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Nice figures! As usal with Perry's plastic.
Was the "Home Service Helmet" used on campaign too? :?
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No. Only at home :)
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These are a must purchase as soon as humanly possible kinda thing.....
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Does anyone else think that the gaiters on the ORs are just a tad too short? Shouldn't they grip the trousers at a point just just below the knee?
And the Home Service helmet wasn't just a campaign helmet with a spike, it didn't flair out above the ears as these seem to do.
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Really like the look of the figures.
The Lord knows I don't need to buy more figures.
But that has never stopped me before. lol
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Hi Charla,
No, the gaiters look spot on for the o/r
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Can all those contemporary London Illustrated graphics be wrong?
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Wow! Those are so very tempting and what an incredible treasure trove of useful head variants.
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...what an incredible treasure trove of useful head variants.
That!
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Yeah, and perhaps no one has done a correct figure before....
I've never seen a wargames figure with long gaiters. That said, that is no guarantee of anything.
However the Perrys are usually good at research and converting that research into accurate figures.
While some illustrations do show longer gaiters the photos from the period tend to show the short gaiters being worn by other ranks.
There are a couple of pictures that look like longer ones, but they could be either officers, irregulars or mounted infantry off the top of my head, they aren't clear.
Ian Knight's Osprey, British Forces in Zululand for example has illustrations that match these figures, so I would tend to believe these figures are correct.
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"I've never seen a wargames figure with long gaiters. "
At a cursory glance, take a look at the British infantry of the A-Z war as made by:
Redoubt Empress Foundry Minifigs Hat (1/72) Britains (1/32)
All have gaiters extending up the leg gripping the trousers at the widest part of the calf. I always thought this was this case.
The gaiters on the Perry figures here seem more like those of WWII British infantry.
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Couple of very informative threads on the Victorian Wars forum that seem to confirm the Perrys have got it right:
http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=6212
http://victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7869
While over there, take a look at the more recent and very interesting thread (from Mike Snook) questioning which equipment the 1/24th were wearing at the time of Isandlwana. Looks like it's not just boots and gaiters that are wrong (for this particular action at least) on most wargames figures. :-)
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Which Foundry A-Z War range? The one the Perrys sculpted or the other one?
If the other range,then I would describe them as short rather than long,if you look where the knees are.
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/colonial/zulu-wars/british-army-africa-collection-bcda015/
If you look at the pack of gunners, the officer's are long, the gunner's are short.
Thanks Simon. Ill take a look at those threads. Must resist more figures though.... :(
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From memory I think the leather gaiters worn by infantrymen in the AZW were 11" tall at their longest point (the ankles, comfortably reaching the calf on an average height soldier of the time) when new, but they had a tendency to sag a little with use as the leather softened and wrinkled a bit. Also, the trousers were tucked into the top, but then folded over and pulled down a couple of inches to cover the top of the gaiter and hang down, so you wouldn't see the whole gaiter.
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From memory I think the leather gaiters worn by infantrymen in the AZW were 11" tall at their longest point
I knew it. You are a Time Lord :D
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I knew it. You are a Time Lord :D
One of those really obscure bits of knowledge that get wedged in the dredging net of my mind, allowing useless information like my wife's birthday and important appointments to drift away.
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Interesting articles on the VW Forum, but the photographic evidence in them, particularly the contemporary Victorian photos, seems to show gaiters taller than those sculpted on the Perry figures shown in this thread. The Victorian infantry 11" tall gaiter would cover most of the calf. In scale terms, the Perrys' gaiters look to be about 7" - 8" tall, and that's without trousers turned over the top of the gaiters, or the gaiters apparently sagging with wear.
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In scale terms, the Perrys' gaiters look to be about 7" - 8" tall, and that's without trousers turned over the top of the gaiters, or the gaiters apparently sagging with wear.
Yes, I agree. You can see the top of the gaiters on the sculpt and they do look too short.
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Been waiting years and years for these. Can't wait for the Zulus...or Venusians.