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Title: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (added 2 preslotta orcs)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 11, 2016, 12:52:22 AM
I'm planning to paint all the evil characters from the cover of the Warhammer Fantasy Battle Third Edition rulebook.
About 11 miniatures that will be a nice warband for Advanced Song of Blades & Heroes or Frostgrave.

Here the first two characters painted, two 1984 pre slotta C27 Chaos Goblin Mutants.

Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 11, 2016, 01:09:15 AM
What an excellent idea! And very fine they look too! Those old chaos goblins are marvellous figures, and you've certainly done them justice.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband
Post by: dinohunterpoa on November 11, 2016, 09:22:05 AM
A great project, keep going!  :)

This is my favorite set from the "C" Era:

(http://www.sodemons.com/rhc/rhc30amazons/_07A5401x-01.jpg)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband
Post by: JollyBob on November 11, 2016, 11:23:29 AM
Love it! I never realised those two from the front cover of WH 3rd Ed were actual figures!

Lovely painting as always.  8)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 11, 2016, 12:26:18 PM
Thanks :)
I have a WHFB 3rd edition rulebook and Also I didn't know that most of the characters from the cover were real miniatures.
I especially liked the Chaos Sorcerer, and I knew about the real miniature some time ago... then I did a research and found most of the miniatures.
Almost all of the miniatures are pre slotta, from the first compendium of citadel, only two miniatures (the chaos warrior and the orc with hat) have slotta bases.
This incresead my interest on citadel pre slotta miniatures, many of them are nice and could be fine with the right paint job.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 11, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
This incresead my interest on citadel pre slotta miniatures, many of them are nice and could be fine with the right paint job.

It's always worth remembering that a lot of Citadel slottabased models were also pre-slotta models (the C36 hobgoblins, for example, and many of the lizardmen and beastmen). Others used the same bodies or heads: many of the first - excellent - range of slottabased orcs are conversions of the older Armoured Orc range. I think the very best Perry and Morrison Citadel miniatures fall immediately on either side of the introduction of slottabases - and many of them straddle it by having both solid and slotta incarnations.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 11, 2016, 10:03:34 PM
Another character from the cover of the WHFB 3rd edition rulebook.
I had some problems to find this miniature, it was not available from the pre slotta range.
Then I found it in the AD&D range of citadel (BDD02 Dungeon monsters Boxed Set).

Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc)
Post by: randycarter on November 11, 2016, 10:38:28 PM
Very fun project - and a very good paintjob!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc)
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 12, 2016, 07:24:39 AM
Very nice! I'd never made the link between the orc in the picture and the Dungeon Monsters guy. The one on the front is the one of the preslotta champions, I think.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc)
Post by: beefcake on November 12, 2016, 07:31:51 AM
Keen to see more of these! Great start.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc)
Post by: Gutbukkit on November 13, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Great stuff!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc)
Post by: ecurtz on November 14, 2016, 01:57:00 AM
Brilliant idea for a project and lovely painting. Add me to the list of those who had the book yet never realized they were based on actual miniatures.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 14, 2016, 05:34:32 PM
Thanks :)

Three Goblin Fanatics from the cover of the WHFB third edition rulebook.


Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (goblin fanatics)
Post by: DeafNala on November 14, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
Beyond being BEAUTIFULLY painted, the Old Greenies are all new to moi. The never made an appearance in the local hobby store when they were new...most of the older Citadel never did. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (goblin fanatics)
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 14, 2016, 06:21:19 PM
A great follow-up to this would be the baddies from the Warhammer FRP cover. One orc - the one with the black plume and axe - seems to appear in both!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7AS1LTWFY1Y/UmzMHBRrHCI/AAAAAAAADvQ/BZsIzt6X2h4/s1600/tumblr_m4wel0smfN1r1g40zo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (goblin fanatics)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 15, 2016, 04:47:42 PM
Beyond being BEAUTIFULLY painted, the Old Greenies are all new to moi. The never made an appearance in the local hobby store when they were new...most of the older Citadel never did. VERY WELL DONE!

Thanks. I suppose it was much harder to find these miniatures in my country too. But in 1984 I was playing with duplo and other toys for small children of 6 years old ;)
I knew miniatures later, thanks to Hero Quest. I suppose it was in 1989-90. :D

A great follow-up to this would be the baddies from the Warhammer FRP cover. One orc - the one with the black plume and axe - seems to appear in both!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7AS1LTWFY1Y/UmzMHBRrHCI/AAAAAAAADvQ/BZsIzt6X2h4/s1600/tumblr_m4wel0smfN1r1g40zo1_1280.jpg)

Nice idea :) I have the Warhammer RPG book too.
The idea is yours, then you could try to create two warbands (good and bad guys) using these characters :)
...and maybe use them in a warhammer quest or hero quest board :D
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (goblin fanatics)
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 16, 2016, 11:13:06 AM
I wonder if all of those are based on actual miniatures. The good guys are, I think. The ogre is, and the orc with the axe and black plume. And that's Fangor Gripe (the cyclops orc) in the corner with the two scimitars. The great goblins come from here:

(http://www.solegends.com/citc/c012goblins1/c2c12greatgoblinsx-01.jpg)

But what about the other orcs? The standard-bearer might be based on the armoured orc with bulging eye, scimitar and shield, but he's not that close.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (goblin fanatics)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 16, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
I wonder if all of those are based on actual miniatures. The good guys are, I think. The ogre is, and the orc with the axe and black plume. And that's Fangor Gripe (the cyclops orc) in the corner with the two scimitars. The great goblins come from here:

(http://www.solegends.com/citc/c012goblins1/c2c12greatgoblinsx-01.jpg)

But what about the other orcs? The standard-bearer might be based on the armoured orc with bulging eye, scimitar and shield, but he's not that close.

Welcome in my world :)
It could be not easy to find the right miniature from an oldhammer picture.
If you know the artist of the cover and maybe he is on facebook or has another contact somewhere and he is kind too, you could ask directly to him if he used some real miniatures for his cover art ;)

Meanwhile, today I received the Wizard, orc with standard, Orc with axe, Orc with scimitar, shield and javelin (the first two swapped from another oldhammer guy and the other two bought on evilbay for 4,50 each).
Now I only need the Chaos Warrior Daethskar, a really generous gift from a nice oldhammer guy... I hope it will arrive soon, it is about 19 days from his shipping (sometime shipping is slow)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (goblin fanatics)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 20, 2016, 12:13:05 AM
The Wizard is done :)

Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (wizard)
Post by: JollyBob on November 20, 2016, 07:58:14 AM
That's incredible!  :o

The purple robes are sublime.  8)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (wizard)
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 20, 2016, 11:05:32 AM
Great stuff! This lot would make an excellent ASOBH warband; that game (or the dwarf supplement - I forget) has rules for outsize balls and chains, and it's easy to stat up the chaos goblins (Group Fighter for two-head, perhaps, for example).
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (wizard)
Post by: Cubs on November 20, 2016, 11:27:09 AM
That's put a big smile on my face. That's a fantastically lunatic project and I'm so pleased you're succeeding so well.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (wizard)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 20, 2016, 06:42:21 PM
Great stuff! This lot would make an excellent ASOBH warband; that game (or the dwarf supplement - I forget) has rules for outsize balls and chains, and it's easy to stat up the chaos goblins (Group Fighter for two-head, perhaps, for example).

Thanks :)
I've yet done a sample warband for try ASOBH:

Cabal of Graciale 400pt 11 models

Sorcerer Dante Graciale - Personality
Points 108   Quality 3+   Combat 2
Traits   Trait: Leader (L,P), Spell-caster (P)
Spell: Blast (P), Courage (P), Fireball (P), Protection From Arrows (P)

Chaos Warrior Daethskar - Personality
Points 86   Quality 3+   Combat 4
Traits   Trait: Expert Block, Fearless, Heavily Armored,
Heavy Weapon, Piercing Weapon (W), Subcommander (L,P)

Orc w/scimitar, shield & javelin
Points 32   Quality 4+   Combat 3
Traits   Trait: Block, Javelin

Orc w/double handed Axe
Points 29   Quality 4+   Combat 3
Traits   Trait: Heavy Weapon

Orc w/standard and sword
Points 23   Quality 4+   Combat 3
Traits   Trait: Standard Bearer

Orc w/glaive and shield
Points 33   Quality 4+   Combat 3
Traits   Trait: Block, Long Reach

"The Twins" Goblin
Points 23   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Traits   Trait: Bludgeon

"Long Neck" Goblin
Points 23   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Traits   Trait: Bludgeon

Fanatic Goblin
Points 14   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Traits   Trait: Ball-and-Chain (W), Rabble

Fanatic Goblin
Points 14   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Traits   Trait: Ball-and-Chain (W), Rabble

Fanatic Goblin
Points 14   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Traits   Trait: Ball-and-Chain (W), Rabble
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (wizard)
Post by: Bushbaby on November 20, 2016, 09:33:15 PM
Love your project!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (wizard)
Post by: DeafNala on November 20, 2016, 09:46:40 PM
That is yet another FINE Old Mini that is new to me. He is a BEAUTIFULLY painted creation. VERY WELL DONE!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (wizard)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 21, 2016, 08:42:15 PM
Thanks :)

The orc with axe is done.

Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc w/axe)
Post by: Cubs on November 21, 2016, 08:44:13 PM
Lovin' it.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc w/axe)
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 21, 2016, 09:24:21 PM
Excellent!

Incidentally, it occurs to me that the great goblin behind that fellow in the WFRP painting is based on a misreading of the catalogue illustration - or at least he's acquired the club of the chap next to him. So, although the figure is based on an actual model, there's a slight "Chinese whispers" effect that would make it difficult to replicate without conversion.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc w/axe)
Post by: Mason on November 21, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Fantasy Project Idea of the Year!
 8) 8) 8)

What a great idea and execution!
 :-* :-*

It must have both serious fun whilst at the same time quite frustrating, trying to identify them from those line drawings in the old catalogues.
You are cracking along so well with this wonderful idea and I await the next update with much relish.
 :D



(For the record: I had no idea that those illustrations were based on actual figures either...)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc w/axe)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on November 22, 2016, 01:04:40 PM
Thanks :)
Fortunatelly I recognized almost all of the characters, just two I'm not sure, then I chose two generic orcs that could be similar (a standard bearer and orc with scimitar).

Here the orc with scimitar (and javelin).

Now I must wait the arrival of the chaos warrior (shipped to me in 27 october, I hope it is not lost during shipping :( )
and I must find a nice orc standard bearer, I was considering the two ones in the last picture I included (somebody have it for trade or sell?).
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc w/scimitar)
Post by: SpaceGoblin on November 22, 2016, 05:08:57 PM
Great work! :D
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (orc w/scimitar)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on January 23, 2017, 10:04:56 PM
I received the Chaos Warrior Daethskar shipped as a gift from a really nice guy from the Oldhammer trading facebook group (Thanks again for your generosity Michael C. 😏). Then I painted it and included in my "Warhammer third edition" warband. I've finally painted all the miniatures clearly recognizable from the cover and back of the 1987 Warhammer third edition book.
I will add two more miniatures in this warband, another goblin fanatic and a jabberwock, just to complete the army list I'm planning to play with the Advacend Song of Blades & Heroes.

 
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (added Daethskar)
Post by: Hobgoblin on January 23, 2017, 11:49:42 PM
Superb!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (added Daethskar)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on January 24, 2017, 05:35:15 PM
Thanks :)

The last two addition to my warband: a Jabberwock and the fourth Goblin Fanatic.
Then my Advanced Song of Blades & Heroes warband is completed.

Cabal of Graciale
Figures: 12
Personality Points: 191 (48%)
Warrior Points: 209 (52%)
Total Points: 400

Dante Maliocco Graciale - Personality
Points 84   Quality 3+   Combat 2
Traits   : Leader (L,P), Spell-caster (P)
Spell: Fireball (P), Protection From Arrows (P)

Daethskar - Personality
Points 68   Quality 3+   Combat 4
Traits: Expert Block, Heavily Armored, Shieldbreaker (W), Stubborn, Subcommander (L,P)

Jabberwock - Personality
Points 39   Quality 5+   Combat 4
Traits: Big, Dim-Witted, Fearless, Poison, Regeneration (P)

Orc w/double handed Axe
Points 29   Quality 4+   Combat 3
Trait: Heavy Weapon

Orc w/scimitar, shield & javelin
Points 24   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Trait: Block, Javelin

Orc w/glaive and shield
Points 26   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Traits: Block, Long Reach

The Twins
Points 23   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Trait: Bludgeon

Long Neck
Points 23   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Trait: Bludgeon

Fanatic Goblin
Points 21   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Trait: Ball-and-Chain (W)

Fanatic Goblin
Points 21   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Trait: Ball-and-Chain (W)

Fanatic Goblin
Points 21   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Trait: Ball-and-Chain (W)

Fanatic Goblin
Points 21   Quality 4+   Combat 2
Traits   Trait: Ball-and-Chain (W)

Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (jabberwock, fanatic)
Post by: Hobgoblin on January 24, 2017, 06:01:51 PM
Lovely work on the jabberwock - and great colours!

That looks a really good set of profiles for ASOBH.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (jabberwock, fanatic)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on January 24, 2017, 07:41:40 PM
Lovely work on the jabberwock - and great colours!

That looks a really good set of profiles for ASOBH.

Thanks :)
I was doubtful about the paint scheme for the jabberwock, then while surfing I found this paint scheme and I tried to copy it. ;)
I like ASoBH because I could create any character I want or need in my warband :D
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (jabberwock, fanatic)
Post by: Mason on January 24, 2017, 07:47:36 PM
That Jabberwock is wonderfully finished.
 :-* :-*

I have one of those stored away for when I get the real muse to paint it.
I may well be coming back here for inspiration when I do.
 :D

Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (jabberwock, fanatic)
Post by: Cubs on January 24, 2017, 08:12:25 PM
Dammit, I've got a Jabberwock and was going to use that picture as reference! I can't do it now because it'll look like I was copying!

Lovely work again, what a great project.
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (jabberwock, fanatic)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on January 24, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Dammit, I've got a Jabberwock and was going to use that picture as reference! I can't do it now because it'll look like I was copying!

Lovely work again, what a great project.

Why not? It will be interesting to see your painted jabberwock too :D
Furthermore, I yet copied the original paint scheme from that picture too ;)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (jabberwock, fanatic)
Post by: DeafNala on January 25, 2017, 02:57:53 AM
They are just as BEAUTIFUL here as on Tom's...funny how it always works out that way. Your use of colors & brushwork are WONDERFUL. VERY WELL DONE once more!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (jabberwock, fanatic)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on May 08, 2018, 01:48:10 PM
Some pre slotta lesser goblins I painted for my oldhammer games that I Could like to use in this warband.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1z0XdPGlhkE/WvGbbH3gncI/AAAAAAAADlw/fuLjay2dRz8e92-ZHtDBc87jAMAL0ailgCLcBGAs/s1600/STA78714.JPG)

two of the goblins are painted with the paint scheme of the goblins characters from the cover of the Warhammer RPG
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7AS1LTWFY1Y/UmzMHBRrHCI/AAAAAAAADvQ/BZsIzt6X2h4/s1600/tumblr_m4wel0smfN1r1g40zo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (added lesser goblins)
Post by: Arundel on May 08, 2018, 02:11:05 PM
The cover of the old Warhammer rpg is one of my favourite fantasy illustrations ever. I've never seen it all "of a piece" (instead of front/back covers). Thanks for that!

Your goblins are looking great!
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (added lesser goblins)
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on March 06, 2019, 10:33:02 AM
Two pre-slotta orcs I painted that could be nice additions to the warband:

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-j3eynaIWhkU/XH-ezbViJFI/AAAAAAAAERM/PhZLtgUs8q06AXPph-IhtycNMEbANmArwCLcBGAs/s1600/STA79426.JPG)
Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (added 2 preslotta orcs)
Post by: Mason on March 06, 2019, 09:25:05 PM
This is such a great project!
 8) 8)

Lovely work on the new additions to the band, that green skin is lovely!
 :-* :-*

Title: Re: WARHAMMER Fantasy Battle 3rd edition Warband (added 2 preslotta orcs)
Post by: Cubs on March 06, 2019, 10:08:11 PM
Lovely work again.

The bodyguard with mace is one of my fave miniatures.