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Title: Argonaut Project - update 30/3
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 13, 2016, 10:00:28 PM: Having finished the Zulu Wars project I have decided to start the next one in the Shed - this time something a bit smaller on the figure count but hopefully just as spectacular...

Jason & the Argonauts

I'll add progress here but most of the journey will be on the blog

for the intro

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/the-next-big-project-isjason-argonauts.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/the-next-big-project-isjason-argonauts.html)

and for part 1 - the first bit of terrain head here

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/jason-and-argonauts-part-2.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/jason-and-argonauts-part-2.html)

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Argonauts/DSC_0964_zpsvixzjbge.jpg)

thanks for following me on this journey
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Elk101 on November 13, 2016, 10:32:04 PM: Great to see you starting this! I'll be checking Shed Wars for updates. There's so much scenario potential with this genre.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Hu Rhu on November 13, 2016, 11:06:20 PM: That's a nice piece of terrain to start. Just needs an old man and a few harpies. :D :D
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: carlos marighela on November 13, 2016, 11:20:20 PM: Looking good. I'll be watching this one closely.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Chairface on November 14, 2016, 12:55:15 AM: That looks amazing!
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Argonor on November 14, 2016, 03:11:07 AM: Pass the popcorn, this is going to be good! ;D
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Saucy Jack on November 14, 2016, 08:50:16 AM: Lookiing forward to seeing more - am truly inspired to do an Argonaut warband for Broken Legions.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Andym on November 14, 2016, 08:55:08 AM: Great start mate! 8)
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Inkpaduta on November 14, 2016, 05:56:19 PM: Foundry has some great figures for this.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: zippyfusenet on November 14, 2016, 06:16:20 PM: It looks like you're going for the Ray Harryhausen look, rather than Mycenaean pesudo-historical. Cool beans. It's nice to see mythology done old school.

Release the Kraken!
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Marine0846 on November 14, 2016, 07:47:07 PM: You are off to a good start.
Love the temple.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Elk101 on November 14, 2016, 09:16:57 PM: I'll definitely be interested in seeing what you come up with your rules for this. It really lends itself to heroic actions and scenario driven games. Could this be a possible BLAM 2017 game? I'd be well up for that!
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Duncan McDane on November 15, 2016, 03:23:52 PM: That Temple is brilliant. Shedwork or an existing kit?
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 15, 2016, 10:32:01 PM: Thanks for all the great comments guys...
Quote from: Duncan McDane on November 15, 2016, 03:23:52 PM
That Temple is brilliant. Shedwork or an existing kit?

It is a aquarium piece I picked up in the states last year...it is perfect for 28mm

Quote from: Elk101 on November 14, 2016, 09:16:57 PM
I'll definitely be interested in seeing what you come up with your rules for this. It really lends itself to heroic actions and scenario driven games. Could this be a possible BLAM 2017 game? I'd be well up for that!

Could well be a feature at Blam. Once I have some of the figures painted we will be testing the rules

Quote from: Hu Rhu on November 13, 2016, 11:06:20 PM
That's a nice piece of terrain to start. Just needs an old man and a few harpies. :D :D

Harpies on order...will need an old man...wasn't he called phineas?
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 15, 2016, 10:33:17 PM: Quote from: zippyfusenet on November 14, 2016, 06:16:20 PM
It looks like you're going for the Ray Harryhausen look, rather than Mycenaean pesudo-historical. Cool beans. It's nice to see mythology done old school.

Release the Kraken!

Definitely going for the Ray harryhausen vibe...
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Corso on November 16, 2016, 05:11:07 AM: Cool way to start the project. :D
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: zippyfusenet on November 16, 2016, 02:03:13 PM: Quote
Harpies on order...will need an old man...wasn't he called phineas?

The king of Salmydessus, whom the Argonauts freed from the Harpies, was named Phineus. Phineas is a Latinization of the Hebrew Pinchas, who was an early High Priest and grandson of Aaron, and whose name derives from the Egyptian Pa-nehasi, meaning 'southerner' or 'dark-skinned'. Now you know, and knowledge is powerful.

Oh look, another nit. Must go pick it...
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Severian on November 16, 2016, 02:15:58 PM: Great stuff here - also looking forward to more.

Are your skeletons the old Wargames Factory ones? I've always thought they were perfect for the film...

And yes, Phineas (or Phineus, but I think the film calls him Phineas with an "a") is the old man plagued by harpies. Wikipedia tells me that in the film he was played by Patrick Troughton, of all people (in his pre-Doctor Who days). Not sure if that helps with figure choice or not!

And what about Nigel Green (aka Colour Sergeant Bourne) as Hercules? I suspect some fun might be had here.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Duncan McDane on November 16, 2016, 07:25:41 PM: Quote from: Eric the Shed on November 15, 2016, 10:32:01 PM

It is a aquarium piece I picked up in the states last year...it is perfect for 28mm

Thnaks. I'll have a look at the local pet shop here :).
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: swiftnick on November 16, 2016, 09:55:58 PM: Amazon is pretty good for these aquarium models.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 16, 2016, 10:33:29 PM: Nothing this size could be found to in the uk ....that's why it was a no brainer when I saw it in the states...
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Duncan McDane on November 16, 2016, 11:27:42 PM: I'm from Holland so the shipping might be killing if ordering from the US/Amazon...
Garden centers might have some of those and if not I always can check Aliexpress.

Edit: well, at least I can always pick Spongebobs mansion lol :
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/Spongebob-Squidward-Tentacles-Eugene-H-Krabs-Pineapple-House-Aquarium-Fish-Tank-Decoration/32640299898.html?spm=2114.010208.3.19.i4Y4Qe&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10056_10068_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10084_10083_10073_10080_10070_10096_10082_10081_10060_423_10061_10052_10062_10050_424_10051,searchweb201603_6&btsid=35d3d0d9-b3be-4436-9e21-fe86d7bd0cde
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 17, 2016, 08:48:44 AM: The Argo arrived yesterday from Grand Manner

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Argonauts/DSC_0970_zpsevtfbom4.jpg)
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Hu Rhu on November 17, 2016, 09:24:07 AM: Now you'll just have to add Hera to the model.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 17, 2016, 11:47:14 AM: Quote from: Hu Rhu on November 17, 2016, 09:24:07 AM
Now you'll just have to add Hera to the model.

any tips on how I can do this??
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Hu Rhu on November 17, 2016, 11:57:58 AM: I would take the torso of a naked female miniature and replace it where the prow comes up in a tail. You might have to play around with sizes to get one to match. If 28mm is too small then look for a 54mm plastic model there are plenty of 54mm slave girls on EBay.
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 17, 2016, 12:13:03 PM: Quote from: Hu Rhu on November 17, 2016, 11:57:58 AM
there are plenty of 54mm slave girls on EBay.

really ;)
Title: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 22, 2016, 05:22:44 PM: The latest post is up on the blog...

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/jason-and-argonauts-part-4.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/jason-and-argonauts-part-4.html)

temple finished and a few painted figures...

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Argonauts/DSC_1001_zpsyzki9axk.jpg)

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Argonauts/DSC_0991_zpsizfzbq8e.jpg)
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 22, 2016, 08:34:41 PM: Thanks Bezzo...thats made my day...
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Argonor on November 22, 2016, 09:47:52 PM: That aquarium temple really makes an excellent terrain piece!

Figs are nice, too.
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Elk101 on November 22, 2016, 10:13:43 PM: Great stuff. That's a nice collection of beasties.
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Harry Faversham on November 23, 2016, 03:17:05 AM: “To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his Fathers
  And the temples of his Gods."
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Andym on November 23, 2016, 06:23:14 AM: They've all turned out brilliant mate! :-* I can't wait to see where you go with this!
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Romark on November 23, 2016, 11:40:36 AM: Temple and minis look great :-*

Cheers

Keith
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Hu Rhu on November 24, 2016, 05:20:12 PM: That temple is great and so are the minis. Are you going to add a net to catch those pesky harpies?
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Marine0846 on November 26, 2016, 04:07:40 PM: A lot of cool stuff.
Great progress with the temple.
It turned out ace.
If I may, could you tell us how you cut off the rock base of the temple?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Elk101 on November 27, 2016, 11:04:17 PM: Just wondering; did you consider the Victrix plastics for this?
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Eric the Shed on November 28, 2016, 11:36:49 AM: Quote from: Marine0846 on November 26, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
A lot of cool stuff.
Great progress with the temple.
It turned out ace.
If I may, could you tell us how you cut off the rock base of the temple?
Thanks.

i was going to use my dremel but then i remembered that resin dust is not good for your health...so i used a hack saw

Quote from: Elk101 on November 27, 2016, 11:04:17 PM
Just wondering; did you consider the Victrix plastics for this?

no - the game only needs a few greeks so my acquisitions from foundry and black tree were enough

now sourcing rest of the monsters and other personalities

there will be an update soon
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Duncan McDane on November 28, 2016, 01:06:32 PM: Amazing, simply amazing. Lovin' it :-*
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Dr. Zombie on November 28, 2016, 02:08:16 PM: That is some serious good work there.
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: white knight on November 30, 2016, 06:57:19 PM: I have that Temple too, along with some extra temple ruin pieces that have poseidon and aphrodite statues on them. I believe the manufacturer is actually German.

How did you go about removing the rocky base?
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: belteshazzar on November 30, 2016, 09:28:52 PM: Quote from: zippyfusenet on November 14, 2016, 06:16:20 PM
It looks like you're going for the Ray Harryhausen look, rather than Mycenaean pesudo-historical. Cool beans. It's nice to see mythology done old school.

Release the Kraken!

Ha! Yes, a very memorable quote! I hope you were doing your best Laurence Olivier impersonation!

;-)

Of course, the Kraken and Larry (as Zeus) were actually in 'Clash of the Titans' (the Perseus story), Mr. Harryhausen's last film and the first one I ever saw (as an 8 year-old at Primary School as part of our Ancient Greeks class project: That Primary School teacher has a lot to answer for!).
Title: Re: New Project - Jason and the Argonauts
Post by: belteshazzar on November 30, 2016, 09:34:10 PM: Quote from: zippyfusenet on November 16, 2016, 02:03:13 PM
The king of Salmydessus, whom the Argonauts freed from the Harpies, was named Phineus. Phineas is a Latinization of the Hebrew Pinchas, who was an early High Priest and grandson of Aaron, and whose name derives from the Egyptian Pa-nehasi, meaning 'southerner' or 'dark-skinned'. Now you know, and knowledge is powerful.

Oh look, another nit. Must go pick it...

;)
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: belteshazzar on November 30, 2016, 09:56:52 PM: Great temple!

:)

My only problem is that these aquarium models all seem to be made with _very_ heavy resin, so I hate to think what the postage would be for buying one of these things mail order.

Anyway, I'm sure all you Ray Harryhausen fans already know this, but - just for the record - it's worth mentioning that the Phineus and the Harpies episode in 'Jason and the Argonauts' and the two-headed Cerberus scene prior to the showdown with Medusa in 'Clash of the Titans' were both filmed on location at Paestum in Italy at three of the oldest and best preserved Greek temples.

So, budding model temple builders need look no further for construction and / or painting inspiration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paestum

Some of you may also be aware that the tomb murals at Paestum are an important source for the appearance of ancient Lucanian warriors (although the Wikipedia page only reproduces one example of a cavalryman):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paestum#Painted_tombs

Actually, Italeri make a special model of the Parthenon in Athens.

It's the _intact_ Parthenon of ancient times and I'm not sure what scale it's supposed to be in.

It's probably too small for 28mm / 1:56th scale, but might be alright for 15mm / 1:100th scale:

http://shop.italeri.com/Products/21707-68001-the-parthenon-world-architecture.aspx
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Eric the Shed on December 02, 2016, 11:25:52 AM: Hi Folks

More progress on the JOTA project - all shown on the blog

http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/jason-and-argonauts-part-5.html (http://shedwars.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/jason-and-argonauts-part-5.html)

The Argo gets its first coat of paint...

Started on the plinths for Talos's lair and some more figures

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Argonauts/DSC_1018_zpsi1x25efb.jpg)

Cheers
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - temple finished 22/11
Post by: Eric the Shed on December 02, 2016, 11:27:50 AM: Quote from: white knight on November 30, 2016, 06:57:19 PM
How did you go about removing the rocky base?

As mentioned above I used a hacksaw
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - update 2/12
Post by: Andym on December 02, 2016, 11:30:15 AM: Looking at those statues, you'll be able to do a Ben-Hur chariot game as well!
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - update 2/12
Post by: Eric the Shed on December 02, 2016, 11:43:04 AM: Quote from: Andym on December 02, 2016, 11:30:15 AM
Looking at those statues, you'll be able to do a Ben-Hur chariot game as well!

another day...another project - although chariot racing has always appealed :D
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - update 30/3
Post by: Eric the Shed on March 30, 2017, 07:15:00 PM: Hi Guys a bit more progress on my Jason project which you can follow on the blog

some giant scorpions...

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Argonauts/DSC_0429_zpskbivzgta.jpg)

all the hero figures are now painted inc Hercules and the guy with the wings...

(https://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j375/ErictheShed/Argonauts/DSC_0172_zpsjidbpd0c.jpg)

Over the coming weeks we will be playtesting the rules and the plan is to roll this out at BLAM in october
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - update 30/3
Post by: Phil Portway on April 13, 2017, 12:53:28 PM: Coming along very nicely Eric 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Argonaut Project - update 30/3
Post by: Sarge Canard on April 19, 2017, 12:44:59 PM: Nice!

I've just started an Argonauts army for HotT. And a Greek myth army to oppose them, of course.

I shall be nicking some of your ideas. :D