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Title: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Tordenskjold on December 06, 2016, 08:28:14 PM
Just got an email form Nic at Eureka miniatures about this new range. Very exciting!

(http://eurekamin.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4868&g2_serialNumber=4)

More info HERE (http://eurekamin.com.au/news.php?newsid=EulpVpVVZklPlrVHhY)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: JollyBob on December 06, 2016, 09:12:25 PM
Oh they are lovely!  :-*

I'm getting A hint of the old Pacific Comics adaptations, and also a bit of a LOTR movies vibe to some of the Kamargian armour. I think it works really well.

Really looking forward to seeing more of this range, particularly the flamingo riders.

Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Duncan McDane on December 06, 2016, 10:38:49 PM
A bit chunky, most of them. Count Brass I really like...
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Alxbates on December 10, 2016, 01:28:26 PM
Interesting, but I want to see what the rest of the range looks like.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: majorsmith on December 10, 2016, 06:04:12 PM
Nice! Really liking these!
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Bindonblood on December 10, 2016, 06:50:44 PM
They aren't chunky at all, they are slim and really good figures. Well worth the wait.

They will go down a storm with gamers - I reckon Nic is onto a winner
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Hobby Services on December 10, 2016, 08:00:07 PM
Good lord, my wallet.  At least there's no Granbretan figs yet.  Or flame lances.  Or flamingo riders.

I expect to see Mrs. Cornelius appear on every tabletop for the rest of eternity whether it makes any sense or not.  What a characterful sculpt.

Things are going badly for poor Catherine as usual.  Wonder if we'll see similar figures for all the other Eternal Champion-and-dead-lady-love combinations?
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Steve63 on December 11, 2016, 12:51:37 AM
 Mrs. Cornelius is terrific
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Duncan McDane on December 11, 2016, 11:47:56 AM
I hope you are right - since I really like the MM-universe - but the stiff posing of the Kamarg troopers don't make me happy so far... Maybe in the flesh they look much better and then I happily eat my own words  ;)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Hobby Services on December 11, 2016, 03:21:19 PM
The only one that looks chunky to me is Brass himself, but he's a huge guy wearing full plate armor.  If he didn't have some bulk he'd look all wrong.

Mrs. Cornelius probably wouldn't take kindly to being called "chunky" at all.  You really don't want to make Mrs. Cornelius angry, do you?  :)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Cymril on December 11, 2016, 07:48:59 PM
Any chance that they will release Elric Miniatures at any time?
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: YPU on December 11, 2016, 08:17:12 PM
I expect to see Mrs. Cornelius appear on every tabletop for the rest of eternity whether it makes any sense or not.  What a characterful sculpt.

With that sculpt she ought to wonder "on to set" mr. bean style on any odd game. I should see about getting her for my pulp games.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Svennn on December 11, 2016, 08:51:46 PM
Interested to see the 10mm Beast legions. Would need far too many to do justice in 28mm, although that didn't stop Pete Taylor and myself trying with conversions over the years.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Hobby Services on December 11, 2016, 08:54:55 PM
Interested to see the 10mm Beast legions. Would need far too many to do justice in 28mm, although that didn't stop Pete Taylor and myself trying with conversions over the years.

10mm would also work better for the ornithopters and other weird-and-wonderful war machines.  A sampling of 28mm Gran Bretans would be nice, though.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: fred on December 11, 2016, 09:21:59 PM
More 10mm stuff would be great - are there any photos of these yet?
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Nic on December 12, 2016, 01:25:50 AM
E-mail me at Eureka and I will forward you a photo.
How I post one here, I really don't know.

Nic EUREKA MINIATURES
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Steve F on December 12, 2016, 10:16:53 AM
Or use "Attach" from "Additional options" on the "Post reply" form (as, I hope, seen below).
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: robh on December 12, 2016, 09:20:15 PM
10mm would also work better for the ornithopters and other weird-and-wonderful war machines.

Agreed, the Hawkmoon battles are crying out for small scale figures, 10mm or 6mm en-masse with all the machines and scenery would be amazing.
Big unit bases done in the Impetus diorama style.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: shadowking1957 on December 12, 2016, 10:03:30 PM
Deep passion for anything from the eternal champion is there any list of the  Jerry Cornelius range of whats to come. also will fighting15s have these soon?
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: fred on December 15, 2016, 07:43:53 PM
They look good. War machines would be very cool too.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Tordenskjold on December 15, 2016, 08:07:16 PM
Deep passion for anything from the eternal champion is there any list of the  Jerry Cornelius range of whats to come. also will fighting15s have these soon?


I'm very interested in this too. I'll send Fighting 15s an email tomorrow and post any answers here.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Kamandi on December 16, 2016, 07:47:14 AM
Out of curiosity, what became of the Granbretan figure being previewed here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=60660.0
Was that a Eureka project?
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Tordenskjold on December 16, 2016, 09:54:51 AM
Out of curiosity, what became of the Granbretan figure being previewed here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=60660.0
Was that a Eureka project?

It was and if the stars align I believe we'll see them as part of this range.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Fighting15s on December 16, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
I'm very interested in this too. I'll send Fighting 15s an email tomorrow and post any answers here.

My first consignment of the 28mm figures is on order. Because of the current exchange rate I by and large will not hold large stocks of the range, because I don't want to be caught with piles of high-cost stock if the exchange rate reverses, and will order it in as required. (It's how I worked during the last recession.) My initial shipment is largely an advance order for one customer. Nic at Eureka is very good at shipping stuff and although I've gone back to the slow and cheap method (again, the poor exchange rate has priced DHL out of the market) the wait for items has not been horrendous. Some of my shipments have involved some messy and time-consuming VAT paperwork as regulations changed earlier this year.

The expected price of a foot figure is currently £2.85 inc VAT (£2.38 ex VAT, or roughly AUD4.00 ex tax, making it equivalent to Eureka's price). This may well change depending on what I pay for the figures when they come in.

Ian
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Tordenskjold on December 16, 2016, 11:50:32 AM
I don't hink I've ever had a company preemptively answer myt questions - that's pretty good service  :D

Thanks for letting us all know!
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: stone-cold-lead on December 16, 2016, 11:59:01 AM
Jer, stop messin abaht wiv Caff, you know it's not roight.


Fantastic news!  :)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: JollyBob on December 16, 2016, 01:50:22 PM
I am a little in two minds about the Cornelius figures.

On the one hand I have very definite ideas in my head what they should look like, but on the other the character's appearances changed from story to story so it doesn't actually matter what they look like...

Torn...  :?

That said, for some reason I have always wanted a 28mm Shaky Mo Collier, so whatever he looks like I'll be a happy bunny if Big Mike has put his OK on it.  :)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Fighting15s on December 16, 2016, 02:06:59 PM
I don't hink I've ever had a company preemptively answer myt questions - that's pretty good service  :D

Thanks for letting us all know!

NP. LAF is pretty much the only forum in which I get involved as Fighting 15s, because it is civilized and moderated, and I usually check in two or three times a day during tea breaks.

Ian
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Duncan McDane on December 16, 2016, 02:22:16 PM
Well, need to place an order soon, I guess. Those Gran Bretan look the bomb and when I'm ordering anway why noy check out some Kamark stuff. On you it is, Scurv ...;)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: stone-cold-lead on December 16, 2016, 02:38:18 PM
I am a little in two minds about the Cornelius figures.

On the one hand I have very definite ideas in my head what they should look like, but on the other the character's appearances changed from story to story so it doesn't actually matter what they look like...

Torn...  :?

That said, for some reason I have always wanted a 28mm Shaky Mo Collier, so whatever he looks like I'll be a happy bunny if Big Mike has put his OK on it.  :)

I've always thought a Bishop Beesley would be fun. A game where he and his daughter attack and hijack a Cadbury's lorry could be amusing.

Jerry, Una, Pyat etc, they could all be shoe horned into all sorts of 20th century eras of gaming. Pyat and Mrs Cornelius (in their younger days) were knocking about during the Russian Revolution and most of the worlds major events onwards. Jerry and Una also have that whole alternate reality time travelling malarkey so they can end up in various places. Actually I bet Crooked Dice's 7TV would work for some of that... hmmm....
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: JollyBob on December 16, 2016, 03:10:21 PM
Jerry, Una, Pyat etc, they could all be shoe horned into all sorts of 20th century eras of gaming. Pyat and Mrs Cornelius (in their younger days) were knocking about during the Russian Revolution and most of the worlds major events onwards. Jerry and Una also have that whole alternate reality time travelling malarkey so they can end up in various places. Actually I bet Crooked Dice's 7TV would work for some of that... hmmm....

Pyat, Makhno and Lobkowitz, leading a Mongol raid into 1930s Manchuria while Jerry smuggles Professor Hira towards Tibet... 

Copplestone will be getting a few orders out of this by osmosis I think...  lol
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: stone-cold-lead on December 17, 2016, 04:05:14 PM

 As for the Jerry Cornelius stuff

I saw one of the photos they are using for reference ideas for the female figures. Not being a cornelius man I cant remember who was who but one particular photo of a gun toting 1920's girl looked freaking amazing.

Could be Una Persson but could be anything really.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Cultist of Sooty on December 17, 2016, 10:09:12 PM
If they're using that picture of Louise Brooks with a pair of pistols as reference:

(http://www.ralphmag.org/HQ/pistol-mama400x500.jpg)

Then hell yes. :)

I'm assuming it would be Una Persson, heroine of space and time.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Argonor on December 17, 2016, 10:46:28 PM
I just toss in this comment to get updates  ;)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Nic on December 19, 2016, 01:41:40 AM
By gum, folk are reading our minds! That is indeed the photo we spotted on Thursday and want to use for 'a' Una.
As many of you point out, we can make all sorts of figures and use them, as time travel really does make this  possibility.

As an aside, do you know why she is holding those flintlocks? I'd love top know,

Nic EUREKA MINIATURES
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Cultist of Sooty on December 19, 2016, 03:34:01 PM
As an aside, do you know why she is holding those flintlocks? I'd love top know,
I wish I knew. I've only seen a couple of her films, and it's clearly not from those. She's in all kinds of activities for publicity stills, like getting her shoes shined, playing marbles (no, really) and stuff. So it could just be some randomness for a studio publicity still.

It is such a cool photo, though. She looks like such a player character.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: robh on December 19, 2016, 03:43:28 PM
this is the 10mm wolfmen. Thanks for the attach file tip Steve F. Full of win.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=96041.0;attach=54114;image)

These look large for 10mm how do they scale against GW Warmaster, Kallistra or Pendraken 10mm. I have a suspicion these may be closer to 15mm?
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Hobby Services on December 19, 2016, 05:24:12 PM
If they're using that picture of Louise Brooks with a pair of pistols as reference:

(http://www.ralphmag.org/HQ/pistol-mama400x500.jpg)

Then hell yes. :)

I'm assuming it would be Una Persson, heroine of space and time.

Well, that figure's a must-have for me.  Any ETA on the release?
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: robh on December 19, 2016, 10:45:44 PM
out of sheer curiosity how can you tell?

Painted a lot of 6 and 10mm figures in my time.  The lovely Wolf Legion guys seem to have more surface detail, and deeper undercuts than I would expect on a 10mm figure.

The only "to scale" 1/200th "N" gauge figures are the incredible GHQ range. They are true proportion and 9 or 10mm high (sole to crown).
But in the world of non scaled "10mm" wargame figures they are tiny:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Qx-wsw5KSJE/TrcsffDmvpI/AAAAAAAACXg/Q-uteja15ZY/s813/Capture1.JPG)
Image from the On-Campaign Blogspot

Figures from Copplestone, Old Glory, GW Warmaster, Pendraken etc are slightly bigger, coming in at about 11 to 12mm sole to crown, Kallistra bigger again 12 to 13mm sole to crown. The Wolf Legion figures you linked remind me a lot of the Kallistra models.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Nic on December 20, 2016, 01:32:18 AM
The third figure from the left is 10mm from foot to eye.
If they were 15mm figures, we would call them 15mm.

Cheers

Nic
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Nic on December 20, 2016, 01:33:38 AM
Could we have a copy of the image of Louise playing marbles! That reads like another possible figure :)

Nic EUREKA MINIATURES
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: robh on December 20, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
"Foot to eye"  :-[
Height is measured to the top of the subject.  So the shortest one is between 11 and 12mm then, which makes the tallest one .........

Means the Ornithopters and war machines should work for my 6mm figures (which are actually 9mm).  Will be interesting to see how the flamingos are done, if they size for 10mm.

Thanks Scurv for pointing out this news for me, but the art of paraphrasing someone's comments is to keep the meaning of what they said, not give it your own interpretation.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Cultist of Sooty on December 20, 2016, 01:25:55 PM
Could we have a copy of the image of Louise playing marbles! That reads like another possible figure :)
:D

(https://theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/louise-brooks-street.jpg)

From here:

https://selvedgeyard.com/2011/02/08/the-original-it-girl-of-the-1920s-the-allure-of-louise-brooks/ (https://selvedgeyard.com/2011/02/08/the-original-it-girl-of-the-1920s-the-allure-of-louise-brooks/)

There are some great pictures there. :)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Argonor on December 20, 2016, 04:19:44 PM
Really.

I always thought it was foot to eye due to people wearing tall hats/big hair. The truth of the matter is it depends on the manufacturer and how they choose to measure scale. GW and Eureka both use a foot to eye scale. In fact I cant think of anyone that uses foot to top of head but it is out there.

That has been a convention in wargaming for longer than I have been in the hobby - for exactly the reason given here.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Fighting15s on February 02, 2017, 02:33:34 PM
My initial stocks of Eureka's 28mm Hawkmoon figures have arrived in the UK and the codes are now in the Fighting 15s shop (http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/hawkmoon-1111-c.asp (http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/hawkmoon-1111-c.asp)). They would have been up earlier but my picture editor has been very busy with her real life...

Prices, as I suspected, are £2.85 inc VAT per foot figure. Ex-tax this price is near equivalent or slightly better than Eureka's own ex-tax price in Australian dollars (AUD 4.00 ex GST). YMMV but I'm currently getting only AUD1.59 to £1 as an actual, as opposed to average (xe.com), exchange rate.

Stocks are limited. Because the exchange rate is still so poor, and because I am optimistic that it will one day improve again, I will by and large order in the figures as customers want them, with the result than an order may take eight or more weeks to fulfil. As usual, I will try to get them as fast as possible.

Ian
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Kamandi on February 02, 2017, 08:41:41 PM
I see the Defenders of the Karmarg are available from Eureka. I shall be impatiently awaiting the Legions of Granbretan. Lets be honest - the Karmarg soldiers are nice but they are normal humans in fancy armor. I'm keen on the weird animal masked Granbretanians.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Hobby Services on February 02, 2017, 10:27:40 PM
I'm keen on the weird animal masked Granbretanians.

Given your screen name and image, I'm hardly surprised to hear you say that, Kamandi.  How're Prince Tuftan and Doctor Canus doing these days, anyway?  :)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Tordenskjold on February 03, 2017, 01:34:36 PM
I swung by Fighting 15s' webshop to get the three characters after seeing this post earlier today... And they're all out of stock!  :o

Interest was certainly bigger than I'd ever figured. Hope this is a general trend, and it gives Eureka confidence in expanding the range.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Kamandi on February 04, 2017, 12:13:54 AM
Given your screen name and image, I'm hardly surprised to hear you say that, Kamandi.  How're Prince Tuftan and Doctor Canus doing these days, anyway?  :)

They are doing well, sir. Both appear in Kamandi Challenge #1 published last week. My first new monthly adventure in almost 40 years!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1112840/KamChall1.JPG)
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Fighting15s on February 17, 2017, 10:06:15 AM
I swung by Fighting 15s' webshop to get the three characters after seeing this post earlier today... And they're all out of stock!  :o

Interest was certainly bigger than I'd ever figured. Hope this is a general trend, and it gives Eureka confidence in expanding the range.

Sorry about that. I have more on order.

Ian
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Tordenskjold on February 17, 2017, 10:53:57 AM
Sorry about that. I have more on order.

Ian

Will you be ordering some of the Wolf Order soldiers too? I have not seen them on Eureka's site, but I know they exist.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Fighting15s on February 17, 2017, 06:03:28 PM
Will you be ordering some of the Wolf Order soldiers too? I have not seen them on Eureka's site, but I know they exist.

When I get codes and prices from Eureka, yes.

Gamers local to Eureka in Melbourne who can walk and see what's new in often end up showing stuff on the internet well in advance of its actual release. Plus some stuff gets sent out for advance release at shows.

In general, the guide is if it is not on Eureka's Australian site then it has not yet been officially released but examples may well be in circulation. If it's only on Eureka's US site, then Rob has had some in advance for shows. If it's on my site, then I actually either have it in stock, or I am allowed to order it for customers, or I know it is about to arrive in stock. There are some peculiar exceptions. Nic may display stuff at shows but not actually release it for years: the vulture-headed Hawkmoon range figures were at Salute two years ago but are not yet released.
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Kamandi on February 18, 2017, 06:41:55 AM
"The vulture-headed Hawkmoon range figures were at Salute two years ago but are not yet released."

The actual Granbretan Empire may arise before the figures get here....
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Sir Barnaby Hammond-Rye on February 18, 2017, 07:41:12 PM
http://wargameterrain.blogspot.ca/2017/02/eureka-miniatures-new-hawkmoon-warriors.html
Title: Re: Eureka Relsease 28mm Moorcock Miniatures - Hawkmoon, Jerry Cornelius
Post by: Kamandi on February 19, 2017, 12:54:00 AM
That's pretty awesome Sir Barnaby. I'll wait impatiently for them to go on sale....