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Title: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on January 07, 2017, 08:15:56 PM
In the hope that this might finally get my Dune-esque Sci-Fi project going I intend to build an ornithopter. 

EDIT: This how now become a Dropship, but I will leave the initial thoughts here for completeness.

The problem is the potential design directions to go in.  I do rather like the Lynch movie depiction, even though its not entirely in keeping with the books, particularly in terms of the hardware.  The miniatures I have mostly take their inspiration from the film.  I also have the Akula Attreides 'thopter, which is close to the movie version.

Various concepts form a variety of sources:

Illustrated Dune (1978):
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zLSdRbIA7qs/THKWBtdqS1I/AAAAAAAAFRA/-1jlCxzEYTo/s640/11+ORNITHOPTER.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qFe97FmUTY4/THKc4nnbRfI/AAAAAAAAFRw/OJQD1IaKHoc/s640/17+THE+STRANGE+%2527THOPTER.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hgo68cimzcI/THKfY6g8i4I/AAAAAAAAFSA/KqQ3IVScbZI/s640/19+THE+SARDUAKAR+WARRIORS.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_PCeESP7ZFc/THKfZNEDsyI/AAAAAAAAFSI/KHU9lns9ggI/s640/20+THE+FLIGHT+THROUGH+THE+SHIELD+WALL.jpg)

From Frank Herbert's Dune World by John Schoenherr:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RbVaXSovrEw/Sw0lJCdUybI/AAAAAAAADa8/tDYxqzNyy00/s640/Analog+Jan+1964+Dune+John+Schoenherr+4.jpg)

Concept from Jodorowky's Dune:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5b/1b/b7/5b1bb724de96357d5e8e9c7375318774.jpg)

Insect-like concepts:
(https://lurkerablog.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ornithopter.jpg) (http://www.duneinfo.com/Content/images/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered/part-32/ornithopter.jpg)

Bird-like concepts:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5b/79/c8/5b79c8ffe3b9a970c1418e3649068cea.jpg) (http://www.duneinfo.com/Content/images/michael-stribling/thopter.jpg)

Ultimately I'm still not sure quite which way to go.  Maybe I will just wing it........  ;)

Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: OSHIROmodels on January 07, 2017, 08:19:06 PM
Some lovely inspiration there Paul  8) 8)

Looking forward to seeing what you do.

cheers

James
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Captain Blood on January 07, 2017, 09:23:54 PM
Love Dune, and love this idea, Paul.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Rich H on January 07, 2017, 09:48:08 PM
Cool idea
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: AKULA on January 07, 2017, 10:32:48 PM
I really look forward to seeing your take on this

 8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Cherno on January 07, 2017, 10:49:56 PM
I think overall, the Dune game by Cryos Interactive had the best design.

(https://abload.de/img/duneornithopterpqk15.png)
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Vanvlak on January 08, 2017, 08:28:12 AM
I'm watching this with great interest - I discarded some of those images as being too complicated for me and chose a blockier design which is not very Dune-ish, so I'm looking forward to seeing what you produce. I hadn't seen the Jodorowski one, which IS rather nice - although so are most of the others too. We need to create an Ornithopter Construction Society and build every single one of them!  :D
 
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Andym on January 08, 2017, 08:37:31 AM
Looking forward to this mate! I think Chernos one from the Dune game would probably be the most realistic and (maybe) easiest to do, but I do love this design....

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a605/andymac2105/Mobile%20Uploads/75643DC1-A238-4D25-BB8F-757A18115478_zpsssdaaxnj.jpg) (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/andymac2105/media/Mobile%20Uploads/75643DC1-A238-4D25-BB8F-757A18115478_zpsssdaaxnj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: tomrommel1 on January 08, 2017, 10:27:15 AM
great inspiration
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Overlord on January 21, 2017, 04:11:17 PM
A bit of a slow start for me.  Currently painting unrelated stuff, so need to finish that to give me the space to build.  Hopefully in the next couple of days. 

I have however been giving the build some thought.  My initial idea was to go for something fairly simple; a single seat (1 'arm' instead of 2) recce craft based on the Harkonnen 'thopter from the film.

Dodgy mock-up:
(http://scale-icons.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/7/6/26766741/4165276.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_0.jpg)
However its not very original and, compared to the other builds already underway, rather underwhelming.

Having re-read some of the original book for descriptions, 'thopters read as more bird-like in flight than the insectoid designs that I was initially tending towards, and whilst finishing off some Christmas chocs an idea occurred....

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_1.jpg)(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_3.jpg)
(Unpainted Sid the Sardaukar for scale)

The mock-up is a bit too bird-like currently, but I hope to make the model a bit more tech/sci-fi looking (especially the tail and wings) and more straight-lined.  Its larger than I was intending, but will represent a Harkonnen/Imperial style Assault 'Thopter.  Hence the forward facing ramp, so that the Sardaukar can run headlong into combat as soon as it touches down.  A Chinook style rear ramp just didn't seem right and this 'sit-up' design continues a bird of prey look that follows the avian theme.  I also became increasingly aware than it shares much with the dropship from Aliens, but that wasn't a conscious decision on my part.

The model will be in plastic card (and foamed PVC?) and bigger than anything I have built previously with this media.  ::)

Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: AKULA on January 21, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
I would have loved to see the "one armed" Harkonnen thopter, but your new idea is intriguing.

Looking forward to seeing the execution.

 8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Vanvlak on January 21, 2017, 07:40:31 PM
I'd recommend you do both  :D -  one for the BSC and one later.
They're both rather cool.
And - chocs, mmm!  :-*
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: beefcake on January 22, 2017, 04:32:58 AM
All good ideas begin with chocolate.
Nice mock up.
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Andym on January 22, 2017, 08:09:06 AM
Knowing your skills, I'm sure which ever version you do, it'll look great when finished!
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Mason on January 22, 2017, 09:38:45 AM
Knowing your skills, I'm sure which ever version you do, it'll look great when finished!

Wot he said.
 :D

Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Silent Invader on January 22, 2017, 09:40:03 AM
Wot he said.
 :D



Wot he said.
  :D
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Overlord on January 26, 2017, 11:52:32 AM
I have finally cleared my painting desk sufficiently to start construction:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/BSC%20-%20LAF/2017-%20Ornithopter/Dropship001_zpsujygu84r.jpg)

This is the largest item I have attempted to build with plastic card.  All my previous experience is with smaller items or flat building frontage masters.  It has therefore already been a bit of a learning experience.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/BSC%20-%20LAF/2017-%20Ornithopter/Dropship002_zpsicljkil6.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/BSC%20-%20LAF/2017-%20Ornithopter/Dropship005_zps92a3ay2d.jpg)

However, I'm not at all happy with the design.  It is much too angular and looks more like the bastard offspring of the Aliens dropship and Thunderbird 2.   :?

I will continue, but building a Dropship rather than the originally envisaged Ornithopter, as the current shape/design fits that much better.  I have a bunch of Copplestone FW Troopers that are badly in need of some transport.

Likely something more like this?:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/overlord_awc/BSC%20-%20LAF/2017-%20Ornithopter/Dropship003_zpsj1aiiz4p.jpg)


Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Silent Invader on January 26, 2017, 12:26:55 PM
I really like the 'new' design: looks the perfect shape for dropping out of the belly of a transporter   8)

Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Sterling Moose on January 26, 2017, 12:47:02 PM
Stage 1 reminds me of the Eagle Transporters from Space 1999   :D
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Mason on January 26, 2017, 02:12:36 PM
I like where you are going with this, mate.
Very promising indeed.
 8) 8)

Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: AKULA on January 26, 2017, 03:22:42 PM
Very dropship-like keep going

 :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: uti long smile on January 26, 2017, 06:32:55 PM
Looks great to me!
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: von Lucky on January 26, 2017, 09:04:07 PM
Good to change the outcome if you're not "feeling" it. I think your original idea still has merit, and you were right starting with the cabin to build the rest to get good proportions. IMHO and based on the one photo I think you built the cabin too wide and angular for an Ornithopter.

However, the dropship looks promising.
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Andym on January 27, 2017, 06:30:38 AM
I wouldn't worry too much mate! I take it there will be gubbins to add to the surrounding bulkhead around the cockpit module? If you are concerned, could you not add maybe foamed pvc or thick plastic card to the sides of the cockpit module and sand the edges to give a nice curved look? But just the sides mind you, I really like the shape of it and where your going!
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: mikedemana on January 28, 2017, 02:26:55 AM
Stage 1 reminds me of the Eagle Transporters from Space 1999   :D

I said the same thing!!

Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/

(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/mikedemana/Miscellaneous/LPL_bades_zpsl7op2jaz.jpg)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on January 30, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
Thanks for the feedback.  :)

A bit more progress has been made.  I spent quite a while sorting out the landing gear and ended up with something a bit more complicated than I had intended, but happy with how it has turned out.

The orange bits are cut down covers from inkjet cartridges:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_30_01_17_6_45_33_0.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_30_01_17_6_45_33_1.jpg)

Everything else is plastic card/tubing and brass rod for strength:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_30_01_17_6_45_33_2.jpg)
Each foot has 3 'jointed' supports, but its hard to show it clearly from a single angle.  The brass rod will fit into mounting points drilled in the bottom of the hull.  

Hopefully I can crack on with the rest of the build now.  I didn't want to complete the main body until I knew if the landing gear would work and how it would fit into the underside.  I have a pretty good idea of how the rest of the model will come together.  Up until now I have been rather making it up as I went along, which makes for an imperfect design.  I have however rather enjoyed working with plastic card on a larger build.

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Captain Blood on January 30, 2017, 06:58:15 PM
Ingenious modelling Paul. I am in awe of people who can model with such precision  8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Rich H on January 30, 2017, 07:17:36 PM
They look great!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Elk101 on January 30, 2017, 07:30:06 PM
Ingenious modelling Paul. I am in awe of people who can model with such precision  8)

This! I would have glued my fingers together and more than likely cut the end of one off. The model would still look shit. Very nice work mate.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: gamer Mac on January 30, 2017, 07:42:15 PM
Lovely detailed work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Silent Invader on January 30, 2017, 07:53:37 PM
Lovely design on that landing gear  8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on January 30, 2017, 07:55:07 PM
Thanks for the feedback.  :)

A bit more progress has been made.  I spent quite a while sorting out the landing gear and ended up with something a bit more complicated than I had intended, but happy with how it has turned out.

The orange bits are cut down covers from inkjet cartridges:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_30_01_17_6_45_33_0.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_30_01_17_6_45_33_1.jpg)

Everything else is plastic card/tubing and brass rod for strength:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_30_01_17_6_45_33_2.jpg)
Each foot has 3 'jointed' supports, but its hard to show it clearly from a single angle.  The brass rod will fit into mounting points drilled in the bottom of the hull.  

Hopefully I can crack on with the rest of the build now.  I didn't want to complete the main body until I knew if the landing gear would work and how it would fit into the underside.  I have a pretty good idea of how the rest of the model will come together.  Up until now I have been rather making it up as I went along, which makes for an imperfect design.  I have however rather enjoyed working with plastic card on a larger build.



Great work on those legs and ingenious use of materials.

Well done.

Tony
Title: Re: Overlord's Ornithopter
Post by: Hammers on January 30, 2017, 08:03:17 PM
A bit of a slow start for me.  Currently painting unrelated stuff, so need to finish that to give me the space to build.  Hopefully in the next couple of days. 

I have however been giving the build some thought.  My initial idea was to go for something fairly simple; a single seat (1 'arm' instead of 2) recce craft based on the Harkonnen 'thopter from the film.

Dodgy mock-up:
(http://scale-icons.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/7/6/26766741/4165276.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_0.jpg)
However its not very original and, compared to the other builds already underway, rather underwhelming.

Having re-read some of the original book for descriptions, 'thopters read as more bird-like in flight than the insectoid designs that I was initially tending towards, and whilst finishing off some Christmas chocs an idea occurred....

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_1.jpg)(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_21_01_17_4_25_17_3.jpg)
(Unpainted Sid the Sardaukar for scale)

The mock-up is a bit too bird-like currently, but I hope to make the model a bit more tech/sci-fi looking (especially the tail and wings) and more straight-lined.  Its larger than I was intending, but will represent a Harkonnen/Imperial style Assault 'Thopter.  Hence the forward facing ramp, so that the Sardaukar can run headlong into combat as soon as it touches down.  A Chinook style rear ramp just didn't seem right and this 'sit-up' design continues a bird of prey look that follows the avian theme.  I also became increasingly aware than it shares much with the dropship from Aliens, but that wasn't a conscious decision on my part.

The model will be in plastic card (and foamed PVC?) and bigger than anything I have built previously with this media.  ::)



Love your mock ups.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: AKULA on January 30, 2017, 09:03:31 PM
Genius.

Love the landing gear

 8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: McMordain on January 30, 2017, 09:46:50 PM
Love those landing gears. Nice job!  :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: uti long smile on January 30, 2017, 10:08:00 PM
Wow - they look great!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Mason on January 30, 2017, 11:14:18 PM
Ingenious modelling Paul. I am in awe of people who can model with such precision  8)

I am with the Captain on this one.
Cracking landing gear.
I am definitely more from the Bodgit and Scarper School of Construction.
 ;)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Braz on January 30, 2017, 11:30:45 PM
 :-* You could win with just the landing gear - quite smashing
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: mikedemana on January 30, 2017, 11:44:08 PM
Man, those landing gear just LOOK like they flex. Awesome work...!  :-*

Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/

(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/mikedemana/Miscellaneous/LPL_bades_zpsl7op2jaz.jpg)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Andym on January 31, 2017, 06:31:35 AM
Genius.

Love the landing gear

 8)

Agreed! An entry full of win! :-*
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Vanvlak on January 31, 2017, 07:37:36 AM
You should put those landing gear parts in production  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Malamute on January 31, 2017, 04:07:02 PM
Ingenious modelling Paul. I am in awe of people who can model with such precision  8)

What he said. Amazing so far. :-*
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Dr Mathias on January 31, 2017, 05:14:29 PM
Interesting design, the landing gear is certainly "a nice set of legs" :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Bergil on January 31, 2017, 11:44:12 PM
Those landing gears alone are enough to get my vote everytime.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 02, 2017, 12:02:39 PM
Ingenious modelling Paul. I am in awe of people who can model with such precision  8)

Thank you (and all the other kind comments).  We each have our strengths; I wish I could paint like you!  The great thing about the forum is that we all get to display our varied abilities and be encouraged along the way.  This BSC contest is a great example of that.

Cracking landing gear.
I am definitely more from the Bodgit and Scarper School of Construction.
I tend to "see it in my head" most of the time.  This time the Ornithopter vibe just wasn't happening so I went for something that seemed a bit more suitable to what I had started.  However, the landing gear was a bit complex to do ad hoc so I actually laid out the design (and to ensure repeatability for multiple components)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_02_02_17_12_42_27_1.jpg)

I have now done some detailing on the underside of the main body (the gear is loosely placed, so apologies if it appears slightly wonky):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_02_02_17_12_42_27_0.jpg)

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: AKULA on February 02, 2017, 12:20:44 PM
Looks great - the gear in particular looks like it would work in real life.

 :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Andym on February 02, 2017, 12:30:26 PM
Fantastic! :o Where do you get all your gubbins from?
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: McMordain on February 02, 2017, 12:39:36 PM
I have now done some detailing on the underside of the main body (the gear is loosely placed, so apologies if it appears slightly wonky):

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_02_02_17_12_42_27_0.jpg)

Oh, shiny!  :)

How do you cut the plastic tubes? I have problems cutting them straight with a knife.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Captain Blood on February 02, 2017, 01:15:08 PM
Just for a moment there, in my 'new replies to your posts' screen, I read that as 'Overlord's Droppings'  :D
Sorry about that...

Looking blimmin' marvellous Paul  8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: uti long smile on February 02, 2017, 01:24:04 PM
Looks great! Thanks for the build tips too.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Bergil on February 02, 2017, 02:10:00 PM
Detailing the bottom, that's dedication right there.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 02, 2017, 02:52:54 PM
Fantastic! :o Where do you get all your gubbins from? 

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_02_02_17_3_35_36.jpg)

Everything else is plastic card (plain or embossed), rod, tube or strip.  Orange bits are cut-down printer catridge blanking covers.  I have lots of old spare kit bits, off-cuts, odds'n'ends, etc most of which I keep "just in case I need them at some future point"

Detailing the bottom, that's dedication right there.
I would know if it wasn't there. ::)

How do you cut the plastic tubes? I have problems cutting them straight with a knife.
A sharp modelling knife and metal ruler.  A set square to ensure square cuts. For tubes or rod I roll the piece with the edge of the blade using gentle pressure at first; it then either cuts clean or can be snapped with a clean edge.

Just for a moment there, in my 'new replies to your posts' screen, I read that as 'Overlord's Droppings'  :D
Sorry about that...
No it's a Drop-SHIP   lol

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Andym on February 02, 2017, 06:27:46 PM
Thanks! I'll look into getting some of those vents now!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Ragnar on February 02, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
More amazing landing gear.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 05, 2017, 01:43:11 PM
Got a little bit more done yesterday.  Added the stub wings:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_05_02_17_2_39_25_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_05_02_17_2_39_25_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: AWOL on February 05, 2017, 07:26:18 PM
I'm really liking the cockpit - the utilitarian look works really well for a dropship, I think. It does really look like something that's meant to come down and deliver a bunch of unpleasant buggers.

Also  respect for detailing the underside to that extent! I might take some inspiration from your landing gear legs, those are amazing.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Vanvlak on February 05, 2017, 07:28:21 PM
Very nice - looking forward to seeing this done.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 05, 2017, 09:25:40 PM
Started on the engines:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_05_02_17_8_48_20.jpg)
Two old marker pens, plastic girder plastic card and toothpaste tube tops ( but no sticky-back plastic! lol )


Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Captain Blood on February 06, 2017, 06:50:27 AM
Ingenious scavenging  :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Elk101 on February 06, 2017, 06:55:01 AM
Someone else with precise plasticard cutting,  I just can't do it so I'm regularly impressed seeing it done so well!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on February 06, 2017, 08:30:05 AM
Started on the engines:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_05_02_17_8_48_20.jpg)
Two old marker pens, plastic girder plastic card and toothpaste tube tops ( but no sticky-back plastic! lol )




Oh, I'm disappointed - No sticky-back plastic!

Looking great.

Tony
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 07, 2017, 11:42:53 AM
Minor progress on the engines; wrapped the pens in thin plastic card and added the resin intakes
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_07_02_17_12_31_39_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_07_02_17_12_31_39_1.jpg)

Added the basic tail pieces:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_07_02_17_12_31_39_2.jpg)

Finished off the wings and continued the lines of the cockpit rearwards (trying to make it appear less "boxy"):
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_07_02_17_12_31_39_3.jpg)

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Silent Invader on February 07, 2017, 11:54:32 AM
Looks great  8)

How did you stick the plasticard to the pens?
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Jagannath on February 07, 2017, 12:00:26 PM
Absolutely brill thread - I'm knicking ideas here for my (eventual and totally theoretical at the moment) 1/300 landing ship. The landing gear are really fantastic, and those toothpaste lids are inspired. Perfect.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Hammers on February 07, 2017, 12:22:46 PM
I am impressed by your skills in finding and using scraps. A historical model makes it more difficult, imo, to be creative.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 08, 2017, 12:11:09 PM
How did you stick the plasticard to the pens?
The 2 pens were fixed to the plastic girder with UHU, as the rough bond would be hidden by the next stage.  I then stuck one end of the sheet to a pen with superglue then, once it had dried, wrapped the pre-curved card around and glued the overlapping plastic card (hidden on the underside) with EMA Plasweld.

I am impressed by your skills in finding and using scraps. A historical model makes it more difficult, imo, to be creative.
A completely fictitious model means no-one can tell you where you are making a mistake.  :D
It also allows you to use any component you think fits in, rather than having to find something (or build something) that matches a component in a real item.  I admire any build in this contest re-creating a documented (real or imagined) craft.

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 10, 2017, 02:43:04 PM
I have now added a couple of intakes to improve the look of the nose end:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_10_02_17_3_24_31_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_10_02_17_3_24_31_3.jpg)

The engines have been attached and rear fuselage completed:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_10_02_17_3_24_31_1.jpg)

It now needs all the details adding:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_10_02_17_3_24_31_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Silent Invader on February 10, 2017, 03:16:43 PM
Lovely lines, Paul  8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: uti long smile on February 10, 2017, 09:03:19 PM
Marvellous.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Andym on February 11, 2017, 06:32:32 AM
Love it! :-* those intakes add soooo much to the overall look! 8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Captain Darling on February 14, 2017, 07:56:52 PM
Great scratchbuilding, following this with interest!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 15, 2017, 03:22:56 AM
Apart from one small detail (still waiting the required component) the build is now completed:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_50_08_4.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_50_08_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_52_46_0.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_52_46_3.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_54_01_0.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_52_46_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_50_08_0.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_50_08_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_52_46_2.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_54_01_1.jpg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_54_02_2.jpg)

The completed model in its Really Useful (9L) hangar:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_54_02_3.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_54_02_4.jpg)

Going to be pushed for time with the painting as I'm likely to be busy with work between now and the closing time.  ::)

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Elk101 on February 15, 2017, 06:45:29 AM
It looks great. I hope you get it painted up in time.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Andym on February 15, 2017, 06:48:15 AM
LOVE!.......IT! :-* The back engine compartment is my favourite single piece of it. I love the angles of it all AND the perfect amount of gubbins!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Mason on February 15, 2017, 06:51:21 AM
LOVE!.......IT! :-* The back engine compartment is my favourite single piece of it. I love the angles of it all AND the perfect amount of gubbins!

I couldn't agree more.
A wonderful finished article.
 8)  :-*  8)


Oh, and the fact that the Really Useful Hangar Company have made a product to fit it perfectly is a sure sign that they fully expect to see many thousands go into production.
 :D

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: gamer Mac on February 15, 2017, 10:46:37 AM
Great stuff Paul
Does the big hatch on the bottom open into a ramp?
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Andym on February 15, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
Looking at it again, I think you need to call it The Beagle Dropship. ;)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Vanvlak on February 15, 2017, 12:59:20 PM
Now I need a hanger too! 8)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 15, 2017, 02:30:37 PM
Looking at it again, I think you need to call it The Beagle Dropship. ;)
Given it was rather made up as I went along it's more of a mongrel.  :)

Does the big hatch on the bottom open into a ramp? 

The component I was waiting for, neodymium magnets, arrived this morning.  I now have a ramp that opens & closes:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_23_37_0.jpg) (http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_23_37_1.jpg)
Ideally I need to spray undercoat it this afternoon, but cold damp weather isn't ideal....  ::)


Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Dr Mathias on February 15, 2017, 02:35:27 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: uti long smile on February 15, 2017, 02:58:31 PM
Magnificent!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Alfrik on February 15, 2017, 03:05:01 PM
Liking the detail of the landing support struts.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: supervike on February 15, 2017, 04:45:11 PM
I'd hate to be the pilot charged with landing inside that hangar....No room for error!

Absolutely outstanding looking ship.  Would fit right in to many ship designs I've seen on multiple sci-fi shows.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: AKULA on February 15, 2017, 06:46:32 PM
Excellent work

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: gamer Mac on February 16, 2017, 07:43:39 PM
The ramp looks great :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Makes sense of the higher front gear
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: McMordain on February 16, 2017, 10:59:45 PM
Awesome!  :o
I really like the detailing.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_15_02_17_3_54_01_1.jpg)

But to be honest the uneven lines of the front bothers me to no end. It looks like he is snarling though :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Rich H on February 17, 2017, 01:03:04 AM
Human eye is a bastard for parallel lines...  I bet if you measure the asymmetry it'll be something like .5 of a mm.

Still looks great though!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Malamute on February 17, 2017, 11:50:45 AM
Superb, another winner in my book. :-*
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 17, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
Thanks for all the kind feedback.  :)

The ramp looks great :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Makes sense of the higher front gear
It's the reason it has the nose high position.  Otherwise, to give the exiting troops clear headroom (longer rear gear) it would look even more ungainly and have a ridiculously steep ramp angle; more like an escape slide!  It also somewhat mimics the mantling of a bird of prey and (at least in my mind) looks a bit more "tactical".

But to be honest the uneven lines of the front bothers me to no end. It looks like he is snarling though :)
It isn't apparent on the model.  I think it's the camera perspective that gives the illusion that it is a bit wonky.  That 'head-on' pic isn't truly in line; If you look at the gear position, the rear is slightly offset to the left.  In reality the centre pillar of the windscreen is completely in line with the centre of the top engines.

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Captain Blood on February 17, 2017, 05:36:19 PM
Fandabadozi! Love it  :-*
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Dr DeAth on February 17, 2017, 05:37:16 PM
Brilliant
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Overlord on February 18, 2017, 06:27:20 PM
One last pic before the deadline:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/27/369_18_02_17_6_56_09_0.jpg)
Undercoated, now rushing to finish the paintjob and photograph.  5 1/2 hours and counting......  :o

I have really enjoyed building the dropship, even though it didn't start out as that!  I have never built anything this big with plastic card and it has been a voyage of discovery and trial & error but very interesting.  If I knew at the start what I knew now it would be a rather different design, but I am pleased how it has turned out given the haphazard design and build process.  The next one should be better.... ;)

Good luck to everyone else with finishing and the contest.  Its been great to follow all the build threads and I can't wait to see the finished items (now or later).

Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Dr Mathias on February 18, 2017, 07:09:19 PM
One last pic before the deadline:

Amazing work Overlord. That is quite an impressive undertaking and an awesome addition to any table.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: McMordain on February 18, 2017, 08:42:49 PM
It looks really good already, I can't wait to see it in color.  :)
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Elk101 on February 18, 2017, 09:01:32 PM
That's cracking Paul. It's got a proper 'production model' look about it.
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: dampfpanzerwagon on February 18, 2017, 09:20:42 PM
Very impressive.

Tony
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: uti long smile on February 18, 2017, 10:08:20 PM
Top stuff!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Andym on February 19, 2017, 07:26:44 AM
Brilliant Paul! :-*  Its amazing how a coat of primer brings all the separate parts together! I can't wait to see the final photos!
Title: Re: Overlord's Dropship
Post by: Rich H on February 19, 2017, 10:28:33 PM
Awesome!