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Title: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-10-09)
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 21, 2009, 05:04:32 AM
I can't help myself. I think I will name this one "The Hammer of Thor". You all started talking about big ships, and I had this carrier idea. So, her we go. Last night's beginning...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3296053733_997ddbcd54_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/3296053957_bf4b1d092d_b.jpg)

And now, tonight's word before I ran out of planks. Quick trip to Michael's tomorrow necessary.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/3296054075_ab119d2f7e_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3296054203_dab673851c_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3318/3296054417_415a4c2305_b.jpg)

You can see the start of the Steam engines, the superstructure with the same piece as the first, smaller Aeronef. I have not decided what the forces of Free Norway will do for Aethernauts on the carrier, but I'll think of something.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Rabbitz on February 21, 2009, 05:10:53 AM
 :o

OMG thats HUGE LOL  its going to look awesome.

We really should all get together and post pictures with our ships specs when they are all done.



Cant wait to reveal my second and third ships for my Japanese, but I fear they could like insignificant compared to this behemoth.

Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 21, 2009, 05:40:37 AM
:o

OMG thats HUGE LOL  its going to look awesome.

We really should all get together and post pictures with our ships specs when they are all done.



Cant wait to reveal my second and third ships for my Japanese, but I fear they could like insignificant compared to this behemoth.



Well, statistically speaking, the Japanese do have smaller equipment.  lol

 :D

Where do you live, by the way? If I get my Norwegians done...
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: thejammedgatling on February 21, 2009, 05:53:12 AM
That is massive. I'd like to know the weight of that when you're done! Well done!

Will you be using a real magnum of champagne to christen it? I want pictures of that.

Oh and by the way you're on my side aren't you? (remember its 1903, the Cod wars havn't happened yet)

:o

OMG thats HUGE LOL  its going to look awesome.

We really should all get together and post pictures with our ships specs when they are all done.



Cant wait to reveal my second and third ships for my Japanese, but I fear they could like insignificant compared to this behemoth.



Well, statistically speaking, the Japanese do have smaller equipment.  lol

 :D

Where do you live, by the way? If I get my Norwegians done...

I would be REALLY impressed if you managed to get this beast to Australia....
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 21, 2009, 06:36:07 AM


I would be REALLY impressed if you managed to get this beast to Australia....

Yours are smaller - you come to Oregon in the US instead.  ;D
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Christian on February 21, 2009, 01:29:04 PM
Sinewgrab... I'm sure you could at least float that thing over here with the amount of foam you used :P
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 21, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Sinewgrab... I'm sure you could at least float that thing over here with the amount of foam you used :P

My wife says she would be more than happy to vacation to Australia as an excuse to play VSF. I love this woman.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: fastolfrus on February 21, 2009, 10:09:29 PM
Mjollnir is looking good so far.
For attack craft you could try something truly exotic - how about giant dragonflies ?
Either genetically modified by a crazed Scandinavian scientist, or bred from captive specimens brought back from Venus.
In terms of size, something about the size of a real dragonfly (perhaps a local "educational" toyshop might be a source or natural history museum gift shop) should be about big enough to mount a rider and carry a bomb or torpedo, though not over long distances.


Sadly lads, although looking good so far it isn't huge yet : 20 years ago we played a lot of "Full Thrust" SF games at the club, and went through a Star Wars season. Quite a few ERTL/Airfix star destroyers came out (each about 12 inches long), needless to say, one of the club decided to raise the stakes (he was an art student so did it as part of his degree work) and built a super star destroyer that was awesomely large. Engines were based on Pringles tubes, six of them,widest beam was about 3 feet, length was just over seven feet, the hull was 6 - 15 inches thick. When he unveiled it as a surprise one club night it took three of us to carry it in to the gaming room. Some people thought it was a surfboard.

He made it so that it could be mounted on a wall mount (one inch metal tube slotted in through a central hole in the stern).
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 12:01:58 AM
That is awesome. I did something sorta like that when I was 8 - I built a scale-ish star destroyer for my action figures that took up most of one wall of my bedroom - all cardboard, tape, old food containers. There are pictures of it in my parents collection somewhere. I was an ambitious youth.

This one is only about 32" long - I scaled back from original design, because I still have to be able to store it.

I am trying to find a suitably VSF version of wings - rocket packs are too WW2 - and call them Valkyries. Maybe even use female figures...I have considered the Vanir valkyries from Celtos, but they are too medieval, even if they are gorgeous.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 06:26:51 AM
Well, if anyone is paying attention, here is the latest update.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3331/3298836289_2b7c3a1661_b.jpg)

Got the planking on, and attached the stands. Now, I just need to decide on a few things and move on.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3621/3298836701_7ef3b05c18_b.jpg)

The back has not changed much yet, but I will have to redo the smokstack. The bottles I was stacking wont glue together, so I am going to cut a hole out of the one glued on now, and use pvc piping.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/3298836913_205b0e3cc1_b.jpg)

And here is a comparison shot, so that you can see how much larger she is then the original.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Dewbakuk on February 22, 2009, 10:02:56 AM
Looking great. For winged troops, how about basing off GW Birdmen of Catrazza?
http://www.grafika.cytadela.pl/articles/718r.jpg

I believe they've been dropped now, but they turn up on ebay periodically.

The plastic thing on the back, the silver and yellow one. What is it from? Looks very familiar for some reason.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Wolf 359 on February 22, 2009, 04:15:59 PM

  Good god, man...! Are you over-achieving, or what?!

Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
Looking great. For winged troops, how about basing off GW Birdmen of Catrazza?
http://www.grafika.cytadela.pl/articles/718r.jpg

I believe they've been dropped now, but they turn up on ebay periodically.

The plastic thing on the back, the silver and yellow one. What is it from? Looks very familiar for some reason.

I believe I got it in an X-men Heroclix box, along with a broken robot, for Danger Room simulations.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 04:46:12 PM

  Good god, man...! Are you over-achieving, or what?!



Probably. Some of us just cannot resist new projects. Once I get a little more work done, she will probably be set aside like the other one, so that I can concentrate on my Pirates, until I can afford to toss an order in to Reviresco for appropriate guns and some of their infinitely neato doors and such. I can't get those at the local hobby store - and the rest of their fixtures tend to be in brass, and that is a bit spendy for my current budget. I figure once I have the carrier, and it's escort, crewed, then I can calm down on my VSF kick, get my Pirate Empire army finished for a Tournament this summer. and then move on to painting my Warmachine Pirates, and any number of other looming projects on my wall of doom.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Hammers on February 22, 2009, 04:51:01 PM
I can't help myself. I think I will name this one "The Hammer of Thor".

May I suggest [wiki]Mjolnir[/wiki]or Mjölnir since that is what the hammer is really called? Norse names are quite common on Swedish warships. I served on a Norwegian made patrol boat called 'Vidar'. The others three in the division were called Hugin, Munin (after the ravens of Odin) and Vale.

if you are considering a sistership ;) Gungnir is a good name. It is the spear of Odin the Allfather, which never misses its target.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 05:00:22 PM
I can't help myself. I think I will name this one "The Hammer of Thor".

May I suggest [wiki]Mjolnir[/wiki]or Mjölnir since that is what the hammer is really called? Norse names are quite common on Swedish warships. I served on a Norwegian made patrol boat called 'Vidar'. The others three in the division were called Hugin, Munin (after the ravens of Odin) and Vale.

if you are considering a sistership ;) Gungnir is a good name. It is the spear of Odin the Allfather, which never misses its target.

I was planning on that, but only after I tracked down the proper spelling. I have been trying to find something associated with Sif to use as the name on the accompanying destroyer, but haven't gotten thorough on that yet. How does the Norwegian navy label ships - do they use HMS for His Majesty's Ship, or something different?
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Hammers on February 22, 2009, 05:19:57 PM
I can't help myself. I think I will name this one "The Hammer of Thor".

May I suggest [wiki]Mjolnir[/wiki]or Mjölnir since that is what the hammer is really called? Norse names are quite common on Swedish warships. I served on a Norwegian made patrol boat called 'Vidar'. The others three in the division were called Hugin, Munin (after the ravens of Odin) and Vale.

if you are considering a sistership ;) Gungnir is a good name. It is the spear of Odin the Allfather, which never misses its target.

I was planning on that, but only after I tracked down the proper spelling. I have been trying to find something associated with Sif to use as the name on the accompanying destroyer, but haven't gotten thorough on that yet. How does the Norwegian navy label ships - do they use HMS for His Majesty's Ship, or something different?

HMS would probably be appropriate, given the union (Hans Majestäts Skepp). It would possibly be HSNoMS or HSNoMM (His Swedish and Norwegian Majesty's Ship/Marine). King at this time would be Oscar II of the Bernadotte dynasty.

Oh and if you are having smaller crafts swarming around, I think Hugin and Munin would be perfect. As I said those were the raven's of Odin. Or possibly Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr, which are the billygoats pullimg the warwagon of Thor.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Wolf 359 on February 22, 2009, 05:34:41 PM

  What's the brand of mounted saw you use for your cuts? Forgot to ask that earlier.
  And nice job, by the way. Your work is motivating, and it begs the question: what rules do you use, and where do you game? We don't have a concerted interest in VSF here in the DFW metroplex - that I know of - and it's a shame.

Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: fastolfrus on February 22, 2009, 08:35:36 PM
If you opt for sinister Scandinavian scientific experiments (after all Nobel must have been doing something when he wasn't inventing explosives) you could mount your Valkyrie on more or less anything winged.
How about pteranodons ?
Souvenir of the lost world expedition perhaps, or salvaged from the journey to the centre of the earth (which after all set off from Iceland).

If the mount has rivets, it's clockwork or steam powered, if not it's a genetic modification.

For names on the smaller one, if the carrier is Mjollnir, might the small escorts perhaps be one of the dwarfs ? Brokk or Sindri perhaps ?
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 08:36:31 PM

  What's the brand of mounted saw you use for your cuts? Forgot to ask that earlier.
  And nice job, by the way. Your work is motivating, and it begs the question: what rules do you use, and where do you game? We don't have a concerted interest in VSF here in the DFW metroplex - that I know of - and it's a shame.



Just a Craftsman 16" scroll saw - I actually had to go look at it. I can never remeber what the damn things are called, or what brand I have, so I went out in the garage and looked at it.

And I don't game with it - I don't have any friendly players in the area that do VSF that I know of. I am going to start visiting Warren Bruhn's group once a month, but they seem to concentrate on historicals, not VSF. I ahven't been talking to them much or for long, so I could be completely wrong. The crowd here in Portland Oregon tends to Warhammer and Warmachine, with a little Flames of War thrown in.

Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 09:01:50 PM
If you opt for sinister Scandinavian scientific experiments (after all Nobel must have been doing something when he wasn't inventing explosives) you could mount your Valkyrie on more or less anything winged.
How about pteranodons ?
Souvenir of the lost world expedition perhaps, or salvaged from the journey to the centre of the earth (which after all set off from Iceland).

If the mount has rivets, it's clockwork or steam powered, if not it's a genetic modification.

For names on the smaller one, if the carrier is Mjollnir, might the small escorts perhaps be one of the dwarfs ? Brokk or Sindri perhaps ?
I want them to be robotic in nature, and preferably look technologically on par with this:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3300718631_2c4179c570_o.jpg)

It's a Reaper Golem I painted some years ago, and am going to repurpose to my Norwegian forces, maybe even drill out his hand so that he holds a Norwegian flag.

And I decided on the names - weapons of the Gods it is. The Carrier will be the HMS Gungnir, and be accompanied by the HMS Mjollnir. The hammer name is more appropriate to the craft with the downward pointing cannon that has (to scale) an 18" bore. That is some boomstick.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: fastolfrus on February 22, 2009, 09:43:16 PM
That's an awesome looking golem.

At least we know what we are aiming for now.

I'll see if anything comes to mind.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: fastolfrus on February 22, 2009, 10:37:08 PM
Perhaps something clunky - like an early monoplane (thinking on the lines of one with a deflector propellor, but chunkier than the Morane saulnier).

Have you looked at Fiddlers Green to see if they have any suitable designs ?

https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/shop/category/name/Early+Flying+Machines.html

I'm not into card modelling personally, but you might see a design that is available as a plastic kit.


Would something like batman's batwing look too gothic ?
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 22, 2009, 10:50:34 PM
I think I am trying for slightly less sizable than most early flyers - mayhap the early equivalent of an ultralight, or such. I have built 'hangars' to attach to the bottm of the 'nef - I'll get a photo up later today when I have them mounted.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 23, 2009, 12:28:27 AM
Promised photos of underside "hangars". With Pulp Figures Rocket Ranger with flag for reference.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3630/3302192424_623b4c556f_b.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3419/3302192606_7c46ede39a_b.jpg)

I am going to glue some form of doors onto them, so that my people can be suiting up in the hangars, and then go out the front.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 23, 2009, 12:39:41 AM
Looking great. For winged troops, how about basing off GW Birdmen of Catrazza?
http://www.grafika.cytadela.pl/articles/718r.jpg

I believe they've been dropped now, but they turn up on ebay periodically.

The plastic thing on the back, the silver and yellow one. What is it from? Looks very familiar for some reason.

Had missed this question - that is a rebel troop carrier from the Star Wars collectible miniatures game.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Mancha on February 23, 2009, 01:49:49 AM
Jesus, that's big.  As an aside, I love that you have the rocketeer guy mounted at an angle.  I never would have thought of that. 
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Hitman on February 23, 2009, 02:42:58 AM
WOW!! That is a great looking ship. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: gamer Mac on February 23, 2009, 08:44:05 AM
Great looking ship. :-*
Huge. :o
I may have missed it earlier in the thread but what exactly is the aircraft carrier going to carry. Is it Rocket troops?
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Sinewgrab on February 23, 2009, 02:22:51 PM
Great looking ship. :-*
Huge. :o
I may have missed it earlier in the thread but what exactly is the aircraft carrier going to carry. Is it Rocket troops?

I have not decided yet. I am trying to find winged troops that look VSFish, but are not those (not to my tastes) Prussians from Eureka. Jet packs are little too 30's or 40's to me. I may start scratchbuilding one man balloons or ultralights for them.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Wolf 359 on February 23, 2009, 08:01:34 PM

  Aren't there some winged fliers from the Flash Gordon range? I saw them recently, but don't remember who manufactured them.


Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Doc Twilight on February 24, 2009, 04:03:38 AM

  Aren't there some winged fliers from the Flash Gordon range? I saw them recently, but don't remember who manufactured them.




Wargames Supply Dump.

-Doc
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet
Post by: Wolf 359 on February 25, 2009, 04:11:41 AM

  Yeah, that's right. Is Roger back up in business, or is he finished for good?

Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-3-09)
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 04, 2009, 06:24:49 AM
Ah, almost finished building. Just needs rivets...lots and lots of them.

Here we have a full length view, with the gorgeous Philomena giving us a sense of scale.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3327058537_648eabc208_b.jpg)

This view explains how the flyer will be launching themselves into the ether, and also why you do not want to be in front of that gun. The gun is a repositioned mortar off the Games Workshop Griffon tank. The white doors I plan on riveting, of course, and once I find the rod, I will place rods at the bottom to be the hinge.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3327058631_639a8ee66a_b.jpg)

Here Philomena gives us a closer view of the inside of the superstructure. I adore the bits I got from Reviresco. I find the sailors disappointing, but the guns and bits are topnotch.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3339/3327892574_9a873c7820_b.jpg)

And finally, the rear of the ship, with requisite smokestack, random bits to kind of indicate steamtech, and the mounted rear firing turrets, scrounged off a broken GW Leman Russ.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3593/3327058985_85832a6151_b.jpg)

Next step, rivets.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-3-09)
Post by: gamer Mac on March 04, 2009, 08:53:17 AM
WOW :o
This is going to be some fleet.
Have you come up with something to land on it yet?
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-3-09)
Post by: argsilverson on March 04, 2009, 10:00:28 AM
Awesome!
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-3-09)
Post by: Ray Rivers on March 04, 2009, 10:28:52 AM
 :o

Wow... that is one heck of job.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-3-09)
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 04, 2009, 02:21:13 PM
WOW :o
This is going to be some fleet.
Have you come up with something to land on it yet?


I am experimenting with casting the wings off of the Birdmen from GW - I traded for one, and am trying to dupe them, seeing as GW doesn't sell the bits anymore, but I am not certain I care for that style, nor can I decide what the troops need to look like. I *know* that they need to be heavily clothed, because they are not going to have radiant heaters like the crew of the Mjollnir or Gungnir. I haven't found ones I like yet that will match up to the Brigade Models Belgians I decided to use for Norwegians.
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-3-09)
Post by: dodge on March 04, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
It's a great project, and coming together very well.

love those guns

dodge
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-10-09)
Post by: Sinewgrab on March 11, 2009, 07:11:58 AM
Update-o-rama! 4 hours and 700 pins later.

The Gungnir, ready to paint...with guns.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3345567903_8f59e3775e_b.jpg)

Here we have the starboard side of the back portion, with little bits and pieces added here and there.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3345568075_897e032f46_b.jpg)

Here is a look into the superstructure.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3400/3345567641_88c2a6a8de_b.jpg)

A good look at the port side, with my scratchbuilt door from bits.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3333/3345567719_05c99ee6e1_b.jpg)

And a view of the front of the command structure. Though it can't be seen very well right now, being all white like the walls around it, the center of the middle layer has a door, that is designed to swing up - I figure this will give the troops coming out some cover from higher up attacks. The gatling in the corner is scratched together from bits - I am actually rather proud of getting it together.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3624/3346401844_250f4c2184_b.jpg)

I am quite pleased actually - there is not the insane amount of detail someone like Mancha - yeah, I'm looking at you, you scratchbuilding nutbar (even if I do love your work) - but I see these as mobile terrain - and if they are too detailed, to me, it draws away from the models instead of complimenting them. Maybe that is just me. Now, to painting this and Mjolnir, and getting my soldiers painted up...and finishing my pirates, oh and doing some more groups for the contest, and finishing my Lord of the Rings models, and maybe get back to painting my Tau for 40k...

Damn, I am pathetic.
 o_o
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-10-09)
Post by: Hauptgefreiter on March 11, 2009, 03:27:53 PM
Very cool!  :-*
Well done and with quite enough amount of detailing for my taste
Although the Adeptus Mechanicus will turn you into a servitor for abusing such an amount of Imperial Tanks  ;)
Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-10-09)
Post by: Mancha on March 11, 2009, 03:46:27 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3624/3346401844_250f4c2184_b.jpg)

Looks like a vehicle ramp on the side of the command bridge, yes?  Now you've got me expecting to see some cool pulp device stationed there.  Expectation are high.

I am quite pleased actually - there is not the insane amount of detail someone like Mancha - yeah, I'm looking at you, you scratchbuilding nutbar (even if I do love your work) - but I see these as mobile terrain - and if they are too detailed, to me, it draws away from the models instead of complimenting them.


Pretty ballsy statement considered how many grey GW bitz I see all over the place.   ;)


Title: Re: The Heart of the Aeronef Fleet (updated 3-10-09)
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 15, 2009, 04:58:45 AM
See the VSF section for the finished beast!