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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Mr. White on January 17, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
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Anyone have any idea if there's a minis game that sort of plays out like an old-school arcade beat'em up? Heroes walking around beating up mooks in a run down, dystopian city?
I guess one could play Gangs of Mega-City One/Judge Dredd/Necromunda and have all the players skip the range weapons. Just engage and beat the crap out of each other. Not sure how much fun that would be...
Maybe it's not an ideal setting for a minis game, but is there anything out there like this?
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The Golgo Island and Neutron York 3000 rules are great fun and might suit your needs. The miniatures are also heavily inspired by 1980s video games. They're available from East Riding Miniatures.
http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/erm-25-11-c.asp
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A Fistful of Kung Fu from Osprey could work. It allows for interacting with props, allowing you to do things like leave crowbars and barrels around the place.
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A modification of Two Hour Wargames All Things Zombie replacing the randomly spawning zombies with randomly spawning mooks possibly?
IIRC using guns or otherwise making more noise causes more zombies to spawn, which could be exploited to keep guns as occasional power ups rather than a focus
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A Fistful of Kung Fu from Osprey could work. It allows for interacting with props, allowing you to do things like leave crowbars and barrels around the place.
Good suggestions, all, but I think the above ruleset is almost _exactly_ what I'm looking for. I haven't played the game it's based on (Song of Blades and Heroes) I hear it's highly recommended, but is it _too_ simple?
I'm thinking from the heroclix line I can grab up a bunch of Foot and Hand ninjas for a large gang, maybe some police and citizens...pop them off the clix base, rebase and have a populated urban area quick and on the cheap.
I'd like to find some good brawler/street fighter types (not the actual street fighter characters) to paint up though as player characters. Any ideas?
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I strongly recommend FoKF as mrgrison has said.
It's not just interacting with things on the street (bricks, rubbish bins, chairs, car doors, watermellons, whateverislogical), but also for throwing people through windows, and slipping on water/blood, and the fact is has rules to include magic, martial arts and firearms in a fairly fun and simple way. Yes the game play is a little simple, but thats to ease the use of interacting with props and etc.
Down side is that you only have 1 hero (unless you decide to play with multiple), and its your hero who does all the cool stuff. They also start with "chi" tokens which are kinda like the specials from streets of range, only you can't get more during a game.
I totally recommend buying the rule set.
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I'm convinced.
Where to go for decent cityscape terrain though?
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I'm convinced.
Where to go for decent cityscape terrain though?
All sorts of places. TTCombat, Knights of Dice, Litko, GameCraft Miniatures to name but a few.
You can see some examples of various ranges in my project log over on Warseer:-
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?391258-28mm-Modern-Cityscape
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Where to go for decent cityscape terrain though?
Papercraft! The solution to all your terrain needs and a fun hobby in and of itself!
(http://www.abload.de/img/rimg1941u72i.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SD8w0ioh.jpg)
(https://ruleof3.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/3d-heroclix-map.jpg)
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Hey, the first picture is from my old WWG Mayhem build :) I gave it all to Vampifan a few years ago :) Good memories... 8)
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Hey, the first picture is from my old WWG Mayhem build :) I gave it all to Vampifan a few years ago :) Good memories... 8)
And I still have it, Cherno, and I'm still very grateful to you for gifting me it. ;)
For card terrain, there are lots of options,
World Works Games mayhem City sets as shown above.
Stoelzel's Structures http://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub/4244/Stoelzels-Structures (http://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub/4244/Stoelzels-Structures)
Or my current favourite - Battle Systems Urban Apocalypse terrain http://shop.battlesystems.co.uk/urban-apocalypse-terrain-8-c.asp (http://shop.battlesystems.co.uk/urban-apocalypse-terrain-8-c.asp)
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/501/195/35aba82f73f50bfe4541d0de351bc3fb_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1442328932&auto=format&q=92&s=4b44924f419d6cf634367821a024a11b)
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If you're looking for minis, Hasslefree has a few martial artists that would make great protaganist in an Arcade style game
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=modern-%26%0D%0Apost%252dapoc~modern-martial-artists
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If this conversation doesn't lead to some Double Dragon gaming, I'll be angry :)
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If you're looking for minis, Hasslefree has a few martial artists that would make great protaganist in an Arcade style game
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=modern-%26%0D%0Apost%252dapoc~modern-martial-artists
Perfect!
Also, good call on the paper terrain. How long does it take to assemble? Complex?
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Depends on how durable you want it to be. If you just want to do straight paper builds for your first couple of games, the longest part of the construction will be waiting for the glue to dry. If you want to do it all on foamcore for durability, it'll take a little longer, but I found it easy to knock out 3-4 buildings a night, if not more.
I suggest building http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/29057/Twilight-Street-Heroic-Scale-FREE-Horsemans-Deli?it=1 (http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/29057/Twilight-Street-Heroic-Scale-FREE-Horsemans-Deli?it=1) to see if it's your thing.
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How long does it take to assemble?
Well, I saw Vampifans blog a few years ago and now I have shelves full of an ever increasing number of card models, so... :-D
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Jack, if you go for the Battle Systems Urban Apocalypse sets you can make a building in a few minutes and when you've finished using it, disassemble it even quicker, since you won't be thinking about what items to place where. It is strong, durable and very, very easy to assemble. The biggest problem with the likes of the print and make sets is that they are very time consuming to make, especially if you want interior detail. On the other hand, they offer you a far greater choice of buildings to use, most of which come intact. Bear in mind that the Battle Systems sets are designed for a post-apocalypse setting. I hope that helps.
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Jack, if you go for the Battle Systems Urban Apocalypse sets you can make a building in a few minutes and when you've finished using it, disassemble it even quicker, since you won't be thinking about what items to place where. It is strong, durable and very, very easy to assemble. The biggest problem with the likes of the print and make sets is that they are very time consuming to make, especially if you want interior detail. On the other hand, they offer you a far greater choice of buildings to use, most of which come intact. Bear in mind that the Battle Systems sets are designed for a post-apocalypse setting. I hope that helps.
Vampifan: Thanks to your blog, I have also been ogling the Battle Systems Urban Apocalypse sets. I assume that you mean that you put individual components together and then assemble them on the table as you see fit?
I have some of the Fat Dragon Capital City which are essentially 'boxes' with no interior but they look good on the table http://www.fatdragongames.com/fdgfiles/?page_id=38
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Vampifan: Thanks to your blog, I have also been ogling the Battle Systems Urban Apocalypse sets. I assume that you mean that you put individual components together and then assemble them on the table as you see fit?
That's exactly right. The walls, floors and roofs just clip together by use of small plastic connector clips.
Fat Dragon Games are useful if you want to make buildings without interiors. I have some of their models myself.
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Are there some suggested posts from vampifan's blog i should check out?
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Are there some suggested posts from vampifan's blog i should check out?
For some of Vampifan's most excellent card scenery, here's a link I've found http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/card-scenery.html
I've only dabbled a bit in card scenery, and I've found even if World Work Games are very nice the models they can be unnecessary fiddly to put together. Stoetzl structures I never got on with as it is specifically designed to be mounted on foam core first.
For efficient, nice looking card terrain I stick to Fat Dragon Games Capital City. The files have filters so you can tailor the prints a bit for your needs and they come together nicely, no interior though if that's what you are looking for.
Another site I've used is Germy's free downloadable buildings, more scaled for 25mm but can be used for 28mm as well. He's got a bar, a gunshop, a garage, a warehouse and a two storey city block. http://www.germy.co.uk/paper25mm.html
The thing about papercraft though is that it will be quite heavy on your printer ink usage!
If you are not too bothered and want something cheap and cheerful to put on the table, I've used some of the Infinity Scenery Packs from Corvus Belli. All the card terrain is pre printed, so you only need to literally fold it! The packs also include a paper gaming mat (24"x34") and cost around $10 each.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=corvus+belli+scenery+pack
Otherwise, I personally use mainly MDF buildings these days. They are very affordable, surprisingly tough and comes together easily then it's up to you if you want to paint them. There's a multitude of manufacturers out there and probably several that are selling on Ebay.
Hope this helps and good luck with your project
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You can also go for 10-15mm and use the cardboard dropzone commander paper set. It has floor tiles and a huge amount of scenery, so enough to get gaming.
But of course the models won't look as cool in that scale.
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Are there some suggested posts from vampifan's blog i should check out?
For Battle Systems check out these two recent posts.
http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain_9.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain_9.html)
http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain.html)
For all of my card scenery here's a link to the page that has all appropriate posts grouped together.
http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/card-scenery.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/card-scenery.html)
If you want to see the scenery being used in batreps check out these links.
https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/7tv2e-batrep-01-burger-bar-bust-up.html (https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/7tv2e-batrep-01-burger-bar-bust-up.html)
https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/atz-bdtz-bat-reps.html (https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/atz-bdtz-bat-reps.html)
https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/atz-ffo-campaign.html (https://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/p/atz-ffo-campaign.html)
Happy viewing! :)
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For Battle Systems check out these two recent posts.
http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain_9.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain_9.html)
http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain.html (http://vampifansworldoftheundead.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/battle-systems-urban-apocalypse-terrain.html)
Damn you Scott!!!! lol lol
Having seen them now, I have decided it's a MUST have!!!! With limited time for the hobby nowadays, prepainted and easy to construct stuff has a great appeal to me and as the terrain mainly come together without glue, what's NOT to like about it!!!!!
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Gotcha! lol lol lol lol lol lol
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I see the Mongoose Gangs of Mega City One game is going for peanuts on ebay. Comes with paper buildings, mat and 12 minis.
A few sets of this seems a very cheap way to get a cityscape up and going as well as a handful of mooks/extras.
Can anyone speak to the quality of the paper buildings and mat?
Also, what scenarios are in the Fistful of Kung Fu book? How's the campaign?
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I do have the Mongoose Gangs of Mega City One game you were asking about. The quality of the buildings and game mat is not good. The buildings are made of thin card but the game board is just made out of paper. Yes, it would do to get you started, but I'd replace it all as soon as you get something more substantial.
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@Jack Hooligan I'm going to be looking for Indepedent playtesters for my 70's Street Gang rules. Currently ironing out a few things and then going to be sharing it with the testers.
Check out www.facebook.com/funkyskullgames :D
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I do have the Mongoose Gangs of Mega City One game you were asking about. The quality of the buildings and game mat is not good. The buildings are made of thin card but the game board is just made out of paper. Yes, it would do to get you started, but I'd replace it all as soon as you get something more substantial.
I'm sure this is likely the case. For the cost I'm spending though I think it'll be a good value to get me up and running quickly.
I'm keen on the Hasslefree martial artists, but it looks like they are sold out of quite a few...and I don't see the sumo guy on their site. Do they restock often? Have a US based distributor?
@flags_of_war I'll check out what you're doing as it seems similar. I'm going to be angling a more 80's setting though.
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There's some great stuff in this thread - did you ever be any further?
I've been thinking of knicking this project idea and buying some sally 4th roads and playing the game much closer to a 2D game - i.e. A long but only 18cm wide battlefield littered with street debris.
I'd be tempted to use paper terrain files to make a street fascia as background, just like streets of rage. Seems like using Pulp Alley and making your protagonist either a duo league or a single terror might work well.
Hmmm... might go and treat myself i a few of those Golgo island cannon fodder blokes. Anyone know where one can buy 28mm fists?
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Jack Hooligan, gaming Streets of Rage is a great idea! If you're really gonna use A Fistful of Kung Fu, check out these great vehicle action rules from LAF fellow Pijlie:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=77697.0 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=77697.0)
I personally think that AFoKF is very nice as a game concept (the use of environment as a weapon) than as a set of rule mechanics, IMHO. I would advise you to check out Pulp Alley and Judge Dredd as great rulesets that can work even better for your Streets of Rage project with the addition of some simple house rules regarding breaking and using scenery items! ;)
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... I personally think that AFoKF is very nice as a game concept (the use of environment as a weapon) than as a set of rule mechanics, IMHO. I would advise you to check out Pulp Alley and Judge Dredd as great rulesets that can work even better for your Streets of Rage project with the addition of some simple house rules regarding breaking and using scenery items! ;)
Oh yes, you could easily use the environment as perils in Pulp Alley. Good idea! ;)
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Oh yes, you could easily use the environment as perils in Pulp Alley. Good idea! ;)
Works like a charm for MULP games! 8)
One can also add +1 Dice of Brawl, Shooting or Dodge depending on the scenery item - as when using a length of lead pipe as a club, grabbing a trash bin cover as an improvised shield or throwing that smelly alley cat against the bad guys as a living missile (bio weapon)! lol (*)
(MULP = Modern Pulp, you know!) 8)
(*) Been there, done that... and it worked like a charm! ;)
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Dare I say it... I actually think SoR would work really well as a boardgame. Albeit a particularly minus heavy one, CMON style. It would work really well with a conveyor belt style board where new tiles are put in front while ones behind disappear, card decks for random enemies, etc I can really see how it might be possible to emulate the spirit of the video game.
I'd have killed that back in the 90s!