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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Conquistador on February 12, 2017, 10:27:42 PM
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Looking for a list (yeah, right,) of rules dealing with the Austro-Prussian War (or adaptable to that war.)
Seriously, thinking about yielding to temptation to do this in 1/600 or, more likely, 1/300 scale.
What rules would you use?
Trigger warning - will ignore suggestions of "Black Powder" but feel free... lol
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Bloody Big Battles is my rules set of choice for just about all the conflicts set during the Age of Rifles including the Austro-Prussian War.
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We used for many years these rules – http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/fandfmods.htm (http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/fandfmods.htm)
They are modifiers to the Fire and Fury rules for this war and others – here is the 1866 page – http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/1866.htm (http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/1866.htm)
In recent years we have used these ‘stand alone’ rules – http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/FUFF.htm (http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/FUFF.htm)
This set is still influenced by the Fire and Fury set but with many new ideas.
We play both with 6mm and 15mm figures. A unit is 6 to 9 infantry bases with 8 to 10 6mm or 4 15mm. In the first set a unit is a regiment, in the second it is a brigade.
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Bloody Big Battles is my rules set of choice for just about all the conflicts set during the Age of Rifles including the Austro-Prussian War.
Will look into these, thanks!
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We used for many years these rules – http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/fandfmods.htm (http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/fandfmods.htm)
They are modifiers to the Fire and Fury rules for this war and others – here is the 1866 page – http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/1866.htm (http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/resources/C19/1866.htm)
In recent years we have used these ‘stand alone’ rules – http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/FUFF.htm (http://www.wfgamers.org.uk/FUFF.htm)
This set is still influenced by the Fire and Fury set but with many new ideas.
We play both with 6mm and 15mm figures. A unit is 6 to 9 infantry bases with 8 to 10 6mm or 4 15mm. In the first set a unit is a regiment, in the second it is a brigade.
The second looks very interesting, thanks!
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Could try,Neil Thomas 19thc book,lists and scenarios included within :)
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Given your scale why not truly return the game to Prussian roots and use Kriegsspiel.
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Bloody Big Battle for me too (after spending years trying to find a set I liked)...perfect for that scale of figures as units are brigades or divisions (in the main).
Ground scale variable according to scenario but generally approximates to 1” = 200 yards
Time scale variable but typically 1 turn = 1 hour
Figure/Base Ratio variable but typically a 1” base = 1000-1500 men or 24-36 guns but some scenarios on the excellent Yahoo group are 500 men a base.
https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BBB_wargames/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcXZlZGw0BF9TAzk3NDkwNTA1BGdycElkAzg3MDUyNjI2BGdycHNwSWQDMTY5MDA1OTA4MARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0ODY5MzM0Mzg-
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Ordered two books (BBB and its European Wars supplement) without have test played them first. Unusual move on my part that I hope doesn't disappoint me.
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Ordered two books (BBB and its European Wars supplement) without have test played them first. Unusual move on my part that I hope doesn't disappoint me.
You should not be disappointed, they are a decent set of rules, but (like my preference Volley & Bayonet) are a straight forward generic ruleset with some added flavour. Useful if you also want to look at other conflicts in the era without changing rules.
A better option if you want to capture the specifics of the Austro Prussian conflict would be Bruce Weigle's "1866" from Grand Tactical Games:
http://www.grandtacticalrules.com (http://www.grandtacticalrules.com)
Slightly more complex rules but (like his "1870" rulebook) probably the best single volume resource on the conflict.
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Having played and loved Pickett's Charge for the ACW I am waiting for David Brown's latest set of Napoleonic rules to come out (to replace General De Brigade). This will let me look at how he handles cavalry, combine the two with adaptions for slightly different weaponry and Bob's your uncle. Pickett's charge is the best set of rules I have come accross for years and I expect his version for the Napoleonic period to be the same, so for me why change a winning formula.
Dave.
http://thenorthumbrianwargamer.blogspot.co.uk/
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There's a set of rules called 1866 specifically for this war (there are companion sets for 1859 and 1870)
http://www.grandtacticalrules.com/1866.htm
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There's a set of rules called 1866 specifically for this war (there are companion sets for 1859 and 1870)
http://www.grandtacticalrules.com/1866.htm
Went a little nuts and ordered all 3 rules sets (2 different sources) as a backup to BBB.
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Went a little nuts and ordered all 3 rules sets (2 different sources) as a backup to BBB.
I don't think you will need them as a backup for BBB but it's money well spent just for the information they contain
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I don't think you will need them as a backup for BBB but it's money well spent just for the information they contain
1870 arrived and read except for the bibliography(!?!) and waiting for the rest of the rules to arrive.
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1870 arrived and read except for the bibliography(!?!)
Wonderful book isn't it?
Bruce has tutorials online for making those amazing terrain tables.
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Given your scale why not truly return the game to Prussian roots and use Kriegsspiel.
Sorry if this an honest answer but I do not understand your point.
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Wonderful book isn't it?
Bruce has tutorials online for making those amazing terrain tables.
Yes, saw the terrain boards and absolutely fell in love with his work.
Edit: skimming then will read seriously the other two volumes that arrived in mail the end of the week. So many works in the bibliography that I could spend 50 plus years reading!