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Title: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Craig on March 03, 2017, 12:06:23 PM
Warriors and Shieldmaidens,

The Ministry of Gentlemanly Warfare is pleased to announce that a digital PDF version of these popular rules is now available from our friends at S'n'M Stuff http://www.snmstuff.co.uk/product/blood-eagle-e-book/.

The full rule book is on sale for the princely sum of £7.50.

The Ministry's other rule book, Daisho - skirmish warfare in mythical Japan, is also now available in digital format for the same low price http://www.snmstuff.co.uk/product/daisho-e-book/.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Longstrider on March 03, 2017, 05:30:47 PM
Oh happy day! Much easier to convince myself to buy the rules out here in Canadia. Is the plan for IHMN Gothic to go digital eventually, as well?
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Craig on March 05, 2017, 12:01:48 PM
Once we have gone through a goodly number of the print copies, yes.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: rumacara on March 10, 2017, 11:22:47 AM
Usually when people buy the pdf´s it should allow to print them.
First time i bought some from you and they are blocked to print.
If i new that before i wouldnt buy them. >:(
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: AndrewBeasley on March 12, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
Usually when people buy the pdf´s it should allow to print them.
First time i bought some from you and they are blocked to print.
If i new that before i wouldnt buy them. >:(

That's a shame.  I like pdfs to read 'on the go' but paper for reference during the fame.

Thanks for the heads up.  I'll avoid for now.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: horridperson on March 14, 2017, 09:01:31 AM
My "mobile" reader is a laptop with a dead battery  :'( .  I'd like to pick this up without the absurd shipping costs and enjoy the expediency/instant gratification of PDF then I can print a copy to play with but I'm done buying a PDF then a physical copy from any publisher whether I think they make great games or not.

edit:

Awesome!  I managed to find a hard copy of Blood Eagle with a discount that amounted to the shipping.  I have a bit of a wait but soon enough pleasant paper will be flicking under my fingertips :) .
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: eMills on March 14, 2017, 11:32:26 AM
Usually when people buy the pdf´s it should allow to print them.
First time i bought some from you and they are blocked to print.
If i new that before i wouldnt buy them. >:(
Not terribly pleased about that myself.

I can get around it, but I shouldn't have to. I also may have skipped them (Blood Eagle and Daisho) had I seen this before purchase.

~Eric
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Craig on March 19, 2017, 09:36:26 AM
Gentlemen,

This being our first foray into digital we took advice from many sources. These included the editors of popular magazines, other small scale publishers etc. The overwhelming opinion was that for reasons of copyright and security we should lock out the printing option.

We apologise if this has upset you, it was not our intent. We shall take your comments into account for when we make the decision about our next digital release.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: AndrewBeasley on March 19, 2017, 12:04:38 PM
Thank you for the honest reply and I'm not surprised by your action given your sources and the reluctance of traditional print media to embrace the digital age through any other means than a 'paywall'.

I think (though that may be worth the paper this post is made on) that gven the proliferation of tablets, PCs, laptops and phones the old 'print two copies and give one to a mate' has been replaced with 'email to lots of mates in one go'.

The majority of gamers I have played with and against over the years have bought their own copies of the rules so they can read up between games rather than interrupt the gaming flow to read / learn the rules.

For me though, the idea of an unprinterable download does not work - I like to be able to share a print around the table while playing the game and use the PDF etc as fast lookup (minds not as agile as it once was) and find that great production (layout, pic and rule content) leads my to buy the rules more than not if I'm introduced to them during a taster game.

Saying all of that - it's your business model and please keep producing great games as you have done previously.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: rumacara on March 19, 2017, 12:18:50 PM
I also thank for your answer, Craig.
I dont mean to make a bad publicity on you but try to understand that for me and probably for others when we buy a pdf we are paying for a thing we should be abble to print (in my case for free) and not be limited to tablets or computers.
Like i said if i knew before buying i would never done it for the rules arent usefull for me.
I like paper and i have no patience to game with either a computer or a tablet constantly interrupting the game not to mention i already have to deal with computers at work.
I understand perfectly well your need to protect your work but at least have the decency of warning your costumers before buying it. In my case it was 2 sets of rules i will never use them just because they are blocked to print. :(
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: LeadAsbestos on March 19, 2017, 07:53:37 PM
I really wish that people would understand that if you enjoy what a particular company does, and you'd like to see it continue, you need to drop some cash! I'm on a very tight hobby budget too, so I understand the struggle, but good product deserves support, and that means money too. So pony up and buy a book or two, and your favorite company may just be able to continue.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: tjgreenway on March 20, 2017, 04:23:08 AM
I really wish that people would understand that if you enjoy what a particular company does, and you'd like to see it continue, you need to drop some cash! I'm on a very tight hobby budget too, so I understand the struggle, but good product deserves support, and that means money too. So pony up and buy a book or two, and your favorite company may just be able to continue.

But people are dropping money if they buy the PDF's, nobody's advocating piracy here - they may be the cheaper option, but I'd imagine (I may be completely wide of the mark here, would be interesting to see numbers) profit margins would be better on digital options.

I buy PDF's so that I can print them at work, that way I have a printed version to leaf through in game and save on shipping physical copies halfway across the world. I'd much rather have a nice, properly bound and professionally printed book but if I can save some dollars (which would have been going to the post office or courier company, anyway) then I can spend more on miniatures, meaning I get to support not one, but two of my favourite companies with that money.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Craig on March 25, 2017, 01:14:53 PM
Gentlemen, Charles and I are discussing this at the moment, consulting various illustrious members of the community and, seeing what can be done about it.

No promises, but we have heard what you have said.
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Craig on March 30, 2017, 01:54:29 PM
The Men from the Ministry have an Announcement to make about our digital books.

In response to feedback received, we've decided to enable printing from the PDFs.

Details can be found here on our blog:
https://theministryofgentlemanlywarfare.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/daisho-blood-eagle-pdfs-now-printable/
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: eMills on March 30, 2017, 02:03:50 PM
Kudos to you for listening and being reasonable about the issue.

I can only speak for myself but sincerely: thank you.

And I will be purchasing print versions to show my thanks as well. I'll keep your printed copies as "archival" versions and get spiral bound prints to beat up.

~Eric
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: NurgleHH on March 30, 2017, 02:33:09 PM
The Men from the Ministry have an Announcement to make about our digital books.

In response to feedback received, we've decided to enable printing from the PDFs.

Details can be found here on our blog:
https://theministryofgentlemanlywarfare.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/daisho-blood-eagle-pdfs-now-printable/
Great!
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Conquistador on April 01, 2017, 11:17:28 PM
In a really bad Victorian accent:  Gentleman don't buy one and pass out copies to others like cigars. Harrrummph!
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Mr Brown on April 22, 2017, 08:01:27 AM
Bit of minor threadomancy here but good news on the digital copy becoming available.

I enjoyed the core mechanics of Daisho and was contemplating picking up Blood Eagle to do more fantastical Dark Age skirmishes with the miniatures I have. This will probably mean I pick them up :D

Cheers,
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: stefanov on April 24, 2017, 10:57:49 AM
Dear men of The Ministry,
thank you. It was a good choice. In my case for example I have stopped subscribing to digital copies of some wargame magazines because I cannot even hold a copy on my hard disk.
Best Stefano
Title: Re: Blood Eagle goes digital (Commercial)
Post by: Craig on April 24, 2017, 04:18:35 PM
You are all very welcome  :D