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Miniatures Adventure => Colonial Adventures => Topic started by: Arthur on March 07, 2017, 02:01:44 AM
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Sculpts by Paul Hicks. Mike Snook says he is aiming for a Salute release if everything goes according to plan.
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Hurrah!
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They look great :-*
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They look great :-*
I particularly like the Sikh mounted officer ;D
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I particularly like the Sikh mounted officer ;D
Is he a sikh? I thought he looked like a Corps of Guides type or some musulman.
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Is he a sikh? I thought he looked like a Corps of Guides type or some musulman.
Iron Duke Facebook page says they're all European officers of Irregular cavalry units :)
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I like the look of these new guys.
Paul Hicks has done it again.
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I’m not familiar with this conflict… did it occurs around the same time as the Indian mutiny?
Anyhow, these are really nice figures.
Great work, M. Hicks!
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I’m not familiar with this conflict… did it occurs around the same time as the Indian mutiny?
Anyhow, these are really nice figures.
Great work, M. Hicks!
The Bengal Mutiny is in fact what people call the Indian Mutiny. It was in the main the Bengal army that mutinied, supported by local rulers and such. The Madras and Bombay armies mostly remained loyal.
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What Willie says. I was merely trying to be historically correct there. ;)
And yes, judging by the Iron Duke FB page, the 'Sikh' officer is just an Englishman who's gone slightly native in his appearance.
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P.S : in case some of you are wondering what the mounted officer pack is meant to depict, it is supposed to provide the basis for the Allahabad Moveable Column's volunteer horse - a small ad hoc unit made up of Bengal infantry or cavalry officers who had lost their command when their native troops mutinied. They were later reinforced with volunteer civilians and mounted infantrymen drawn from the various foot units under Havelock's command. The Iron Duke website has additional info for those who want to know more.
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Thanks Willie and Arthur... you learn something new everyday, that's an old as the saying, right? ;)
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Nice! Terrific...just terrific.
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Looks like I stand corrected on the mounted officers pack. From the Iron Duke FB page :
One correction to something that came under discussion on the Lead Adventure Forum - the four cavalry officers you see here are not synonymous with a code representing the Allahabad Volunteer Horse.There will be one European officer in each irregular cavalry command code, according to type. We'll also mould the Euro cavalry officers up as a set of four, so you can buy them all together and use them as mounted infantry officers, or staff officers or extra cavalry officers as you see fit. One or two of these four might find their way into an Alllahabad code, because they are particularly suited to it, but there will also be other figures in the code that we have not yet revealed. If you look at the set of four officers as they are laid out here, from left to right, think of them like this: No 1. 1st, 2nd and 5th Punjaub Irregular Cavalry and Corps of Guides in smock frocks. The figure is actually based on a photo of Dighton Probyn, one of the legendary sahibs of irregular horse. No 2. This guy is pretty flexible. He could go into of the regiments already named, but he could also be an infantry field officer, a staff officer or a civilian volunteer etc No. 3. Is a European officer of Irregular Cavalry dressed in a spiked blue helmet and a regimental alkaluk. So he could be in pretty much any irregular cavalry regiment you care to model - including 1st 2nd and 5th Punjab, early on, when they were still in alkaluks, or any of the Oudh Irregular Cavalry regiments or the Bengal Irregular Cavalry regiments. The Oudh and the Bengal pretty much all mutinied eventually. He couldn't be in the Guides or Hodson's Horse or anything of that sort, because they didn't wear alkaluks. No 4. This guy, based on a photo of Lt C H Meacham, is wearing an informal frock or tunic and a shoulder sash, which latter feature makes him particularly suited to Hodson's Horse, (where everybody wore sashes), but he could also be in the Guides, or the Punjab Irregular Cavalry or the Volunteer Horse. Equally he could be an infantry officer or a staff officer or a volunteer - so pretty damned flexible!
In the meantime, here are more pics of the artillery limber crew :
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The aforementioned mounted officers pack :
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Bengal or Oudh irregular cavalry :
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And a lone BLC sowar :
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These are stunning!! :-* :-* :-*
I really need to finish off a couple of other projects first, but then I'm going to jump right into buying some of Iron Duke's stuff.
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Incidentally, a look at the Iron Duke website's 'products' section reveals that once the cavalry are done and released 93rd Highlanders are next :
http://www.irondukeminiatures.co.uk/products (http://www.irondukeminiatures.co.uk/products)
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Perhaps the native looking officer is meant to be none other than the famous Sir Harry Paget Flashman VC, KCB, KCIE, who it must be remembered, received both a Knighthood and a Victoria Cross fro his service in the Mutiny.
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He's based on Dighton Probyn, as the Iron Duke blurb on the previous page says. But Studio Miniatures do a Flashman in mufti in their 1st Afghan War range :
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Incidentally, a look at the Iron Duke website's 'products' section reveals that once the cavalry are done and released 93rd Highlanders are next :
http://www.irondukeminiatures.co.uk/products (http://www.irondukeminiatures.co.uk/products)
Sure to be popular but I would have preferred to see some native irregulars/matchlock men released first and some European civilians ,evading capture or defending Cawnpore etc.Dont get me wrong,I'll buy the 93rd in a heartbeat but the others would appear before these on my wish list :)
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Have you seen the list ? Mouth watering doesn't eve begin to describe it....
Cavalry first.
IMBC 22 Mounted European Officers (8 figs). 4 x officers of Irregular Cavalry and 4 x Lt-Cols/Majs of Infantry or Artillery. Also suitable as staff officers. (£14). [Use horse code IMH 1 for horses with a simple hunting saddle and holster fit, such as might be favoured by senior officers, but codes IMH 2 and IMH 3 would also work just as well].
IMBC 23 Bengal or Oudh Irregular Cavalry, regimental alkaluks and pagri-turbans, Set I. (8 figs). British officer, native officer, guidon, trumpeter and 4 sowars. (£14). Note that, with the exception of the European officer, these figures can be used for either side. [Use horse codes IMH 4 & 5].
IMBC 24 Bengal or Oudh Irregular Cavalry, regimental alkaluks and pagri-turbans, Set II. (8 figs). All sowars. (£14). Note that these figures can be used for either side. [Use horse codes IMH 4 & 5].
IMBC 25 Havelock's Cavalry: Combined Allahabad Volunteer Horse & Mounted Infantry. (8 figs). Four overthrown officers/civilian volunteers and four mounted infantrymen. (£14). [For officers' & civilians' horses use codes IMH 1, IMH 2 or IMH 3. For MI horses use either IMH 4 or IMH 5, as the men were mounted on horses taken from an irregular cavalry unit of doubtful loyalty].
IMBC 26 Punjab Irregular Cavalry, regimental alkaluks, Set I. (8 figs). 1st, 2nd and 5th Punjab Irregular Cavalry. British officer, native officer, guidon, trumpeter and 4 sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 2 & 3].
IMBC 27 Punjab Irregular Cavalry, regimental alkaluks, Set II. (8 figs). 1st, 2nd and 5th Punjab Irregular Cavalry. 6 Sikh sowars, 2 Punjabi Muslim sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 4 & 5].
IMBC 28 Punjab Irregular Cavalry, lightweight frocks, Set I. (8 figs). 1st, 2nd and 5th Punjab Irregular Cavalry. British officer, native officer, guidon, trumpeter and 4 sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 4 & 5].
IMBC 29 Punjab Irregular Cavalry, lightweight frocks, Set II. (8 figs). 1st, 2nd and 5th Punjab Irregular Cavalry. 6 Sikh sowars, 2 Punjabi Muslim sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 4 & 5].
IMBC 30 Guides Cavalry, Set I. (8 figs). British officer, native officer, guidon, trumpeter and 4 sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 2 & 3].
IMBC 31 Guides Cavalry, Set 2. (8 figs). 6 Afghan/Afridi/Punjabi Muslim sowars, 2 Sikh sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 2 & 3].
IMBC 32 Hodson's Horse, Set I. (8 figs). British officer, native officer, guidon, trumpeter and 4 sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 2 & 3].
IMBC 33 Hodson's Horse, Set 2. (8 figs). 6 Sikh sowars, 2 Afghan/Muslim sowars (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 2 & 3].
IMREB 19 Bengal Light Cavalry, Set I. (8 figs). Any of the ten regiments of BLC. Two leaders, guidon, trumpeter and 4 sowars. (£14). [Use horse codes IMH 2 & 3].
IMREB 20 Bengal Light Cavalry, Set II. (8 figs). Any of the ten regiments of BLC. All sowars. [Use horse codes IMH 2 & 3].
Artillery
IMLA 12 Olpherts' Battery, gun team at the gallop, (8-fig set). Consisting of Capt 'Hellfire Jack' Olpherts Personality figure, 3 x drivers (2 x Madras Fusiliers, 1 x syce), 3 x seated Bengal Artillery Europeans, 1 x Bengal Artillery European outrider with carbine. (£14). [For artillery horses use the 8-horse code IMH 6. For gun and limber use IMLA 1 & 2.]
IMLA 13 Mutineer Battery, gun team at the gallop, (8-fig set). Consisting of 1 x officer, 3 x drivers, 3 seated gunners and outrider with carbine.(£14). [For artillery horses use the 8-horse code IMH 6. [For gun and limber use IMLA 1 & 2].
IMLA 14 Bengal Artillery, gun team at the gallop, (8-fig set). All European team. Officer and 7 gunners. [For artillery horses use the 8-horse code IMH 6. [For gun and limber use IMLA & 2.]
Additional infantry (autumn 2017)
IMBC 34 HM 93rd (Sutherland) Highlanders, Command. (8 figs). (est. release autumn 2017).
IMBC 35 HM 93rd (Sutherland) Highlanders, Attacking. (8 figs). (ditto).
IMBC 36 HM 93rd (Sutherland) Highlanders, Firing Line. (8 figs) (ditto).
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Yep,that's some release schedule :D
Lots of goodies to look forward too :)
(If my earlier post seemed churlish I apologise ,I know the 93rd are the poster boys of this campaign but they appear in the later in the battles, I thought Iron Duke was concentrating on the early conflict initially,before moving on,therefore the 93rd are appearing "out of sequence" so to speak :))
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Yep,that's some release schedule :D
Lots of goodies to look forward too :)
(If my earlier post seemed churlish I apologise ,I know the 93rd are the poster boys of this campaign but they appear in the later in the battles, I thought Iron Duke was concentrating on the early conflict initially,before moving on,therefore the 93rd are appearing "out of sequence" so to speak :))
Well , we all have our favourites? But the good thing is that - unlike with many other manufacturers- that in a few years time we WILL have everything we want. need.
Me, I would like some regular sepoys in coatee and trousers to portray the loyal Indian regulars who after the initial mutiny still outnumbered any European force by at least 2:1. But I'm sure they will eventually become available and with this release my next year of painting is fully booked lol
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Me, I would like some regular sepoys in coatee and trousers to portray the loyal Indian regulars who after the initial mutiny still outnumbered any European force by at least 2:1. But I'm sure they will eventually become available and with this release my next year of painting is fully booked lol
They are available already, Willie. Packs IMREB6 and IMREB7 offer figures in coatees with either trousers or dhoti, while IMREB18 has them in shakos and trousers :
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Romark : native matchlock men are in the pipeline since Mike previewed a couple of dollies on the Iron Duke FB page a while ago. Dunno why they do not appear on the list above : perhaps Mike Snook is saving them for a 2018 release.
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I'm not complaining about the 93rd appearing out of sequence though : I'd even welcome figures in dress tunics for HM 53rd right after them.
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The matchlock men dollies do look promising Arthur :)
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They are available already, Willie. Packs IMREB6 and IMREB7 offer figures in coatees with either trousers or dhoti, while IMREB18 has them in shakos and trousers :
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Romark : native matchlock men are in the pipeline since Mike previewed a couple of dollies on the Iron Duke FB page a while ago. Dunno why they do not appear on the list above : perhaps Mike Snook is saving them for a 2018 release.
(http://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15369999_1785218435074142_2132694094475052796_o.jpg?oh=8ef51bcc386b68f7d4d29876d2cd390b&oe=595EE637)
I'm not complaining about the 93rd appearing out of sequence though : I'd even welcome figures in dress tunics for HM 53rd right after them.
Hi Arthur,
yes I know some of them are suitable for regular 'Loyal' sepoys but only a handful. I doubt that loyal sepoys would be allowed to wear a tulwar? Perhaps my too vivid imagination but I suppose loyal BNI would wear regulation coatees and probably trousers, probably dhotis, but not cummerbunds, tulwars or skull caps? Just to keep them distinguishable from the mutineers?
But that Gwalior pack offers another 4 possibilities since they are in standard dress aside from the shako. I replaced the shakos with standard covered caps and put the shakos on the amputees. Since I will be using the Gwalior Contingent as mutineers it doesn't matter if they are somewhat 'out of uniform' and their NCO is wearing a dhoti anyway.
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"But that Gwalior pack offers another 4 possibilities since they are in standard dress aside from the shako. I replaced the shakos with standard covered caps and put the shakos on the amputees. Since I will be using the Gwalior Contingent as mutineers it doesn't matter if they are somewhat 'out of uniform' and their NCO is wearing a dhoti anyway."
I would love to see these conversions,any chance of sharing them WillieB ?
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"But that Gwalior pack offers another 4 possibilities since they are in standard dress aside from the shako. I replaced the shakos with standard covered caps and put the shakos on the amputees. Since I will be using the Gwalior Contingent as mutineers it doesn't matter if they are somewhat 'out of uniform' and their NCO is wearing a dhoti anyway."
I would love to see these conversions,any chance of sharing them WillieB ?
Nearly done! They are in the next batch to be finished.
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Nearly done! They are in the next batch to be finished.
Great,please post once completed,really interested in how they turn out,bet they'll look smashing.
It's hard to tell from the Iron Duke photo but do the shako sepoys have percussion pouches on their belts,I haven't bought a pack yet,waiting for shako command first(seems not on the list though) :)
Cheers
Keith
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Great,please post once completed,really interested in how they turn out,bet they'll look smashing.
It's hard to tell from the Iron Duke photo but do the shako sepoys have percussion pouches on their belts,I haven't bought a pack yet,waiting for shako command first(seems not on the list though) :)
Cheers
Keith
Yes, they have pouches on their waist-belts but only two are showing because of their pose. Obscured by the muskets.
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Yes, they have pouches on their waist-belts but only two are showing because of their pose. Obscured by the muskets.
Thanks WillieB :)
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These look delightful, I am currently starting a small collection using these great miniatures.
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These look delightful, I am currently starting a small collection using these great miniatures.
They are delightful. Haven't had such fun painting figures for years.
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Lots of very cool figures rolling out of Iron Duke.
I need to finish some knights, then may be back to the Mutiny.
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Some of the upcoming iron Duke cavalry to be released at Salute. Swing by the Iron Duke FB page for the full monty, as there must be around 36 pictures over there ! This is just a quick sampling :
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Those look veeerrry nice.
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Lovely!!!