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Miniatures Adventure => Other Adventures => Topic started by: Fuzzywuzzieswiflasers on March 07, 2017, 10:41:59 AM
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Hello all,
I've have started playing this great fun game called Striker! It's a great simulation of the game of soccer.
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z357/neil_hughes71/IMG_4628.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/neil_hughes71/media/IMG_4628.jpg.html)
Here's the review on my blog:
http://littleleadmenofvalour.blogspot.com.au/2017/03/match-day-action.html
You can buy the rules as a PDF here:
http://www.strikertablesoccer.com
Soccer players are available from Eureka miniatures
http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_708&sort=3a
Cheers Fuzzy
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Could I just use my old Subbuteo set to play the game, or are there strict rules for the size of the field?
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Could I just use my old Subbuteo set to play the game, or are there strict rules for the size of the field?
I think the author Tony Moffitt uses subbuteo figures for his games - rebased though? I'm not entirely sure - never really had a chance to play subbuteo, myself...
Here's a picture of one of his recent games - Swansea versus Watford.
(http://www.strikertablesoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/two-2.png)
Personally, I like Fuzzywuzzieswiflasers' (henceforth to be called FWWL ;) ) teams that he has painted up to play the game. Kind of has more 'animation' or 'personality' to the figures/team.
Chelsea
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6WmrqMU0AA8twB.jpg)
ManU
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6WmrqMUwAAU-16.jpg)
Refs & streaker
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6WmrqNU0AADaAW.jpg)
As for me - I'm still in the midst of trying to paint up my team. I'm doing Kevin Keegan's 1996-97 NUFC team - my favourite players from the club I've followed for 20+ years. Shearer, Sir Les, Wor Peter, Prince Albert, Ginola, and Srnicek in goal (RIP :'( ) I think the opportunity to do this, paint a team up and play as NUFC, is what made the Striker! rules appeal to me in the first place...
My first player - Ginola (those stripes are a pain)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6WmrqLVUAAhosE.jpg)
I've yet to have a game but I think the rules look pretty good. My biggest worry was that too much would be condensed in terms of real-world matchplay, to fit the ruleset mechanics. i.e ten minutes are spent rolling dice and measuring to string together a series of passes which would be 30 seconds in a real match.
I think Striker! does a really good job of creating an involving game, while keeping it ticking along as a football match.
Of course, this is only from my perspective as a playstation/FIFA17 pundit (playing rugby's more my thing). I'm looking forward to having my first match!
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I purchased and printed the pdf yesterday, and I am going to use my Subbuteo set to try out the rules this coming weekend.
I also think the 25mm players look better, but I am going to keep this a work-neutral as possible, as I have far too many minis to paint as is, and I would probably get bogged down trying to paint two teams. It also means, I can start playing without any further purchases, which is, of course, also a good thing.
If my daughters like the game, I may buy them their favoured teams (I know, Lea will want FC Barcelona, she got a jersey last year after we visited Nou Camp).
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This game looks awesome - I have it as well but I haven't tried it out yet.
Coincidentally, I am having some 28mm football/soccer players sculpted! Below is one of the early test sculpts. There will be multiple poses with separate heads to add a little variety. I am looking to have these released in the spring (trying to sort out casting at the moment).
(http://i.imgur.com/nZl7NARl.jpg)
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My first player - Ginola (those stripes are a pain)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6WmrqLVUAAhosE.jpg)
You may be able to ease the pain by downing some Brown Ale ;)
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Watts, those cgi sculpts look good. Will be nice to see more action poses. What are you thinking for material? Resin, 3D printed, metal?
The uniform cut is more modern than the Eureka or other manufacturers I have seen.
Cheers
Fuzzy
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Hey Fuzzy - I am not sure what the material will be yet. It will come down to cost and what casting services I can find in my neck of the woods.
The sculptor is working on the poses right now so hopefully I will have something to show soon. There will be 5 poses and 1 goalkeeper, and 10 separate heads to customize your models.
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Looking on with interest (both the game and your figures Watts).
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Shocking. There you are, right in the heartland of Aussie Rules, and you're playing a... soccer game!
Just kidding! Apart from Bloodbowl, never really found that many sports games that I could honestly say I enjoyed, but this looks like it might be interesting.
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Aussie rules is such an excellent game to go along and watch - the huge crowds, the booing of the ump, a four n twenty at quarter time (and a watered-down beer in a plastic cup, if you feel like blowing 10 bucks). I don't reckon it translates that well to TV - not as well as league and union and soccer. Maybe because these games are on a square-ish pitch, and there's a lot of backward and forward?
You may be able to ease the pain by downing some Brown Ale Wink
I do like my Broon ale... especially if I can find it on tap, down this end of the world. Funnily enough, my northern-english mates all love the hoppy, IPA stuff which is big round these parts. bleurgh
I'm actually trying to get the newky brown logo (blue star) on my team's jerseys. Not having much luck, so far.
As for using subbuteo figures - go for it! Minimisation of work is always good for me, given my current life circumstances. ;) I'd like to get my kids having a go at it as well.
Those 3-D sculpts look great - I'll be following it with interest as well. My one suggestion is try to make them customisable as possible (which is kind of what you're already doing with the heads). A lot of my time is spent trying to vary hair colours/poses etc to suit players in a soccer team...
I hope there will be a supplement for Striker! with rules for playing over a season - with things like transfers, skills improvement, training and injuries. Another comp game I used to play was Championship Manager - I used to spend hours negotiating transfers/loans etc with the likes of Rotherham and Hartlepool.
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I do like my Broon ale... especially if I can find it on tap, down this end of the world. Funnily enough, my northern-english mates all love the hoppy, IPA stuff which is big round these parts. bleurgh
Can't stand that bitter stuff myself, very fond of dark ales and malt beers.
As for using subbuteo figures - go for it! Minimisation of work is always good for me, given my current life circumstances. ;) I'd like to get my kids having a go at it as well.
I really hope to be able to squeeze in a game this weekend - but now all of a sudden, the forecast promises gardening weather... :?
I hope there will be a supplement for Striker! with rules for playing over a season - with things like transfers, skills improvement, training and injuries. Another comp game I used to play was Championship Manager - I used to spend hours negotiating transfers/loans etc with the likes of Rotherham and Hartlepool.
I think the rules will need a bit more granularity than the current Tier 1/Tier 2 classification to allow for differentiated players - and possibly star players - but I also think that it would be quite fun to run a team in a full season/champonship.
I am going to have to ask the author a few questions, though, I have found a few things that I think need clarification (I took the referee exam many years ago, when I was still actively coaching kids/youngsters).
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Can't stand that bitter stuff myself, very fond of dark ales and malt beers.
Imperial Stout aged in whisky barrels for the win! It's pretty strong, though... ;D
Our local brewer makes this: https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/boatrocker-ramjet-whisky-barrel-aged-imperial-stout/231840/
I like it. A lot.
I think the rules will need a bit more granularity than the current Tier 1/Tier 2 classification to allow for differentiated players - and possibly star players - but I also think that it would be quite fun to run a team in a full season/champonship.
I am going to have to ask the author a few questions, though, I have found a few things that I think need clarification (I took the referee exam many years ago, when I was still actively coaching kids/youngsters).
Understood about granularity. We've thrown around some ideas for houseruling - but really want to get a few games under our belt, first, before we start playing around with skills etc. The main problem with a season is getting enough teams for a league, and thereby games for a season, I reckon. If there's only 4-5 players playing with their teams, I'm kinda thinking there might be a need for some kind of equation/algorithm needed to generate results - factoring in form and injuries, home and away (the matches, not the TV show).
I think one of the players in our group has been throwing a few questions at Tony, the rules writer. It sounds like he's pretty good at responding and having longer discussions about the rules.
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I agree that although a season would be great fun, getting enough local wargamers to provide teams, AND play enough matches is very unlikely. My (humble) suggestion would be a dice (or card) side game, which would represent 'other' matches. This would alow say 2 or 3 gamers to play a 'season' over a few games. May I further suggest a chart with season 'start points' to add some reason for one off games, e.g. before starting a one off game, roll on the chart. A score of 3 might mean 'need three points from this game to go top of the division'. A score of 7 might mean anything but a defeat means you avoid relegation. For Cup games you could have 'you will go through as long as you don't give away an away goal or loose by 3' Well you get the idea (I hope).
I am thinking of trying the rules & will be using my beloved Portsmouth (Subuteo) team, however (due to my weird choices of purchaces when a teenager) they will have to play Peru !!!!!
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And that, boys and girls, is how Portsmouth got relegated to Peru.
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And that, boys and girls, is how Portsmouth got relegated to Peru.
lol ...keep an eye out for Harry Redknapp, lurking in Lima, with a brown paper bag full of cash.
Some great ideas there has.been re:'other' matches. That chart you suggest, which preludes any game, offers the essential flavour of a season game without having to play an entire season. A very smart fix - I like it...
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Only just seen this thread I'll have to check these rules out I've played a couple of other footy games corner kick! And the beautiful game. And have been trying to get footy figures sculpted and cast I've currently got five figures sculpted and want to do one more its just taking time as I'm funding this myself.
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Looking forward to seeing your finished poses watts
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Looking good, orm1!.
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Great stuff guys! I play 'Corner Kick' myself but am really interested in giving 'Striker' a go :)
Here are some photos of my Corner Kick squads I painted up last year - and why you'll see some players that are no longer on the teams lol
my beloved Liverpool, :D
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wZyEoS5BArY/VeJwFaAlvsI/AAAAAAAACnw/EekrVMGlQRo/s1600/20150829_223724.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uYKePnbz0ls/VdYspmRdcSI/AAAAAAAAClY/lZACo_nUh9A/s1600/20150820_145121.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DlG34Je6VVM/VeO9cBrbjvI/AAAAAAAACoU/2MLb2su3-rQ/s1600/20150830_202437.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-E6jVf3NmEa4/Vfs-b0NdMbI/AAAAAAAACps/OdXSLd6SpMU/s1600/20150915_223431.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Jya29R92Fj0/Vfs-rpCOF1I/AAAAAAAACp8/29U9vT-TcQ4/s1600/20150915_223332.jpg)
I've had the teams from the movie "Escape To Victory" in the queue for way too long - maybe 'Striker' will get me motivated to get them completed!
Watts, I would be all about new figures - the Quantum Casting figures lack a bit, the heads and hair styles are just off and as you can see so are some of the poses. Please keep us posted! I didn't have any "normal" Vallejo colors that could pass for the uniforms, so I had to use some Testors model paint instead and it just didn't turn out too well :?
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Will do! I just had an update from the sculptor and it shouldn't be much longer until I have more to show.
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Those are lovely teams ivor13! The details, with the names and sponsors on the shirts are amazing. Did you use decals and, if so, can I ask where you got them from?
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Thanks! Honestly all I did was go online to different jersey sites and save the images of the kits - if you look closely you can see where I cut them out lol
I just resized them to fit on the figures - I did the same with the sponsor logos on the fronts of the jerseys. I know decals would be ideal but when I was researching how best to do this I found out that printing white onto decals is really only successful if you're using a commercial printer. So I just used regular printer paper - like I mentioned, up close probably not so good, but looking from above the table pretty good :D
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Well I thought they were custom decals too (and wondering how much you spent on them with all that white). Excellent work on making them look that good!
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Thanks! Honestly all I did was go online to different jersey sites and save the images of the kits - if you look closely you can see where I cut them out lol
I just resized them to fit on the figures - I did the same with the sponsor logos on the fronts of the jerseys. I know decals would be ideal but when I was researching how best to do this I found out that printing white onto decals is really only successful if you're using a commercial printer. So I just used regular printer paper - like I mentioned, up close probably not so good, but looking from above the table pretty good :D
You really just have to paint the surface white, where the decal goes. Print it with the jersey colour around the text, perhaps a little darker than you are going to paint the jersey, and you can leave a tiny bit of it unpainted, to set off the white text.
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Quick update on the 3D render I showed earlier. I received a test print today! Here are a couple of photos:
(http://i.imgur.com/U5uB2Xbl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qDeJ0YDl.jpg)
The sculptor is just making a few small adjustments and I will have the printable files sometime next week. At the moment I am looking for a caster somewhere in the US or Canada (I am in Toronto) to do the first run.
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That looks awesome! Can almost see this dude wearing a headband like Beckham.
Not sure how they'd go with my Eureka figs, but I'd probably be interested in grabbing some of these if/when they come out.
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Yeah, they aren't nearly as chunky as the Eureka models but they should be around the same heigh I believe.
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:o Really liking the direction you're heading! Thanks for the update :)
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I started a new thread so I don't take over this one with updates! Check it our here:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=99397.0