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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Dr. Zombie on March 20, 2017, 06:36:01 PM
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In 2019 it is the 800 anniversary af the battle of Lyndanisse (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lyndanisse) where the Danish flag fell from heaven and granted the Danish crusaders victory over the Estonian pagans. I am putting together a pagan army and possibly also building some terrain. To mark the occasion. But be warned this is a slow cooking project. I have already showed the start of the army in my workbench thread. But thought they deserved a thread of their own.
So without further ado here is my first four units.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/77A48AA8-0514-4A2D-865D-06A3C5B1E76A_zpszlcep60u.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/77A48AA8-0514-4A2D-865D-06A3C5B1E76A_zpszlcep60u.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/4A1B3449-7289-4A85-B29A-3D5CDA73441F_zpsrip5ydff.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/4A1B3449-7289-4A85-B29A-3D5CDA73441F_zpsrip5ydff.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/D3B8D908-4D51-4C07-A65C-19E40C2B1D65_zps0ltklcbp.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/D3B8D908-4D51-4C07-A65C-19E40C2B1D65_zps0ltklcbp.jpg.html)
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Ohh nice..
Will follow this with interest.
I have thought about using Frostgrave Barbarians in plastic kitbashed together with maybe Fireforge miniautures or maybe Gripping Beast Viking Hirdmen or maybe even Warlord Games Celts to get some Baltic heathens.
A great start!
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I fully intend to do some units with a more "wild" look. The GB plastics are definitely going to make an appearance along with conquest Normans.
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Thumps up as allways
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I am loving the grunge look on these feudals... :-*
As for tribesmen, I've always bemoaned the lack of decent pagan Pruzz etc. in 25/28mm. Some years ago I had two 15mm Baltic crusades armies sculpted by Josef Ochmann from the Hobby Products Historical Heroes ranges with some spirited Lithuanian cavalry and Pruzz tribesmen.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/metal-magic/images/P2029.jpg
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/metal-magic/images/P2012.jpg
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/metal-magic/images/P2013.jpg
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/metal-magic/images/P2027.jpg
I always thought they would make good Dunlendings or even Hunnic looking Easterlings... sadly I have not yet found their equivalent in the larger scale. All I can suggest is shaggifying converted Celtic, Dark Age or Frostgrave Barbarian troops with green stuff capes, cloaks, hoods etc.
I've had a stab at this creating Wildlings for my ASOIAF project, but I would also highly recommend the Black Tree Design Kurdish tribesmen from their ancients range. I added GB Medieval Russian weapons and arrived at this...
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x200/sukhe_bator/Haradrim/IMAG0511.jpg~original)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x200/sukhe_bator/Haradrim/DSCF0531_zpsovj3tp8u.jpg~original)
Provided with suitable pagan almond shaped plank shields they could proxy well as Pruzz. Although they come in only 4 poses, they take to conversion well.
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Very nice start indeed ! I am working on the plastic Barbarians from frostgrave, too at the moment, alas as proxies for Wildlings in my GoT setting.
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Those look nice as well. Perhaps a little more savage and wild than I have imagined. I think I am going to go for a slightly more civilized look. Perhaps a bit like late Viking, saxons or Normans. But not as feudal. If that makes any sense?
But if I am honest I have next to no idea of how the Estonians would have looked in 1219. That is why I have immagined them hundred years behind on their armour fashion.
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Good start on this Project. :-*
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Estonian history is regularly reflected in written sources from the early 13th century. Besides pre-conquest semi-feudal relations and pagan beliefs, the most significant features that shaped the European Middle Ages — the Catholic church and fixed feudal relations — were brought to Estonia by foreign colonists. From here:
http://www.estonica.org/en/History/ca_1200-1558_Estonian_middle_ages/Sources/
That seems to me that tribal organization was somewhat like pre feudalism in the rest of Europe if that is of any help?!
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Interesting and out of the ordinary project. Everyone thinks Teutonic Knights for the period, but there was a lot else going on in the Baltic region.
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You can check out my Samogitian/Curonian army here http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=86746.msg1068602#msg1068602 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=86746.msg1068602#msg1068602) The figures are a mix of plastic and metal. Warlord Celts and GB vikings are the bulk of the plastics, as well as some wargames factory Germans. The metals are all GB Jomsvikings and Pagan/Early Rus. I also made noble and light cav with wargames factory horses and bodies with GB Viking and Warlord Celt heads. I think Estonians used less cavalry but I believe the Teutonic Knights/Sword Brothers had mounted Livonian auxiliaries so noble cavalry could be an option for Estonian tribes.
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Excellent painting.
I love to follow projects that are off the main stream.
Will be keeping an eye on what you do.
Thanks for sharing.
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ayak333 that is some impressive forces. They are definitely going I the inspiration folder. Thanks for sharing.
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They look to have very Rustic look about them, and I am liking it!
:D
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Another unit joins the army.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/B172BDFB-1E3A-45C5-A737-B7183DB23DFE_zpsop5gcjqp.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/B172BDFB-1E3A-45C5-A737-B7183DB23DFE_zpsop5gcjqp.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/518A3FD4-2D7B-4A4F-AF5B-1A338A601C83_zpsmg37q9ik.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/518A3FD4-2D7B-4A4F-AF5B-1A338A601C83_zpsmg37q9ik.jpg.html)
And a commander.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/63F0CC63-7224-47C3-89F4-09996A4DCA7C_zpslsq1plpg.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/63F0CC63-7224-47C3-89F4-09996A4DCA7C_zpslsq1plpg.jpg.html)
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'Hmmm... this Christmas I might just overlook all the naughty if you get my command sleigh here right now.'
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Very impressive. How many units have you completed by now?
At this rate it will all be over by Christmass
Cheers
Erik
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I have 5 units ready now. But I an starting to regret my choice of colours on the command base as everyone is beginning to talk about christmas.
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I have 5 units ready now. But I an starting to regret my choice of colours on the command base as everyone is beginning to talk about christmas.
Unfortunate but a logical connection. lol However I think the model looks great.
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Only when seen through modern cola-soaked eyes... He would have looked stranger in green!
Nice minis!
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Some more warriors ready to take the field.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/1DD5B2BC-9ACA-4B8A-9DE1-95434B088850_zpsc2kjfmru.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/1DD5B2BC-9ACA-4B8A-9DE1-95434B088850_zpsc2kjfmru.jpg.html)
And some archers.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/39BD7BA5-54B3-48FF-88D4-C9B81F64840D_zpsd3m06uux.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/39BD7BA5-54B3-48FF-88D4-C9B81F64840D_zpsd3m06uux.jpg.html)
It is starting to look like an army.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/6118B6E4-B2D9-4511-A68B-59826EAE622F_zpsty5xpce4.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/6118B6E4-B2D9-4511-A68B-59826EAE622F_zpsty5xpce4.jpg.html)
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Yes, looking good. I like your selection of browns on the archers.
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Its groing and groing... :-* :-*
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Its groing and groing... :-* :-*
Growing and growing you say... oh the world of insults you open the door to. lol
Looks like you're going to be on target for 2019 Frede. How are the other guys involved doing?
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nice
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Another warrior unit.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/665BC1BE-B284-410F-8103-B2837D7CF005_zpsvyytopqo.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/665BC1BE-B284-410F-8103-B2837D7CF005_zpsvyytopqo.jpg.html)
And another commander.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/BF2CE164-DA2F-43F8-AEB2-2EBFD719ABB5_zpsxfdeegnm.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/BF2CE164-DA2F-43F8-AEB2-2EBFD719ABB5_zpsxfdeegnm.jpg.html)
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By Svantevits many beards!!!
I though you were out of Baltic miniatures and planning a Republican Army.
What are you mixed from at the moment?
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I am trying not to do a republican roman army. But next on deck are more Mycheneans.
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Nice update. :-* :-*
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They are a grim and gritty lot - except father Christmas of course :) looking good and coming on a pace
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You could probably take on Giles in a race at this pace.
I fully endorse Romans. Although no one wants to paint the barbarian horde.
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I don't think I quite there where I can keep up with Giles' superhuman speed.
Erik has already painted the barbarian horde.
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I have not painted anymore pagans. But I have not been idle. I have started construction of a Motte and Bailey castle. Here are some early pics.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/546FE59C-3980-4ECD-8A84-EF9CADEB6893_zps0vh6frem.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/546FE59C-3980-4ECD-8A84-EF9CADEB6893_zps0vh6frem.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/5F1CAB42-48F4-4A6E-B799-C2C4AA890210_zpsc4km5gh7.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/5F1CAB42-48F4-4A6E-B799-C2C4AA890210_zpsc4km5gh7.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/516165C8-7314-4AC9-BC58-DD7E532F68F1_zpsubr4akvx.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/516165C8-7314-4AC9-BC58-DD7E532F68F1_zpsubr4akvx.jpg.html)
Now I just have to cut a lot of timber for the palisades.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/17DE41F4-D262-41E1-B51E-5792A4C573B7_zpscwt0bknq.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/17DE41F4-D262-41E1-B51E-5792A4C573B7_zpscwt0bknq.jpg.html)
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Really cool idea!
That's one shack of a castle though. lol
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The sun is shining, the queues in the construction markets stretch as far as the eye can seen and everywhere in the residential neighborhoods the noise of lawn movers are heard. Nevertheless, you are hauled up in your gaming dungeon building a castle.
LOVING IT!!!!!
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My grass is already cut. And I have been out go cart racing with Zombie junior. So I am allowed some time in my dungeon.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/759AFBC6-5735-4FDB-9387-44A970577A1A_zpsyvptpeq9.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/759AFBC6-5735-4FDB-9387-44A970577A1A_zpsyvptpeq9.jpg.html)
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I am still cutting barricade timbers for my castle. And it is slowly taking shape. There is nothing to exciting to see in the fotos. They are mostly to document that work is progressing.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/B3445FBE-AAA2-4387-A18F-258172EA7138_zpsucgrk5u3.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/B3445FBE-AAA2-4387-A18F-258172EA7138_zpsucgrk5u3.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/C0FF75DC-9754-4318-82B5-235E624367F4_zpsoei3nsjp.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/C0FF75DC-9754-4318-82B5-235E624367F4_zpsoei3nsjp.jpg.html)
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Looking good so far. :-*
Watching with great interest to get some ideas for my Arnault de Bichamcourt adventures. :D
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Awesome project. I shall follow with interest.
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I have started texturing everything and painting should commence some time next week. I had a small distraction painting a 6mm Cold War army as seen on another board.
This is pre textures.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/A72530FC-BC62-499B-B2B5-3CFA347F54D4_zpssfln7fzl.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/A72530FC-BC62-499B-B2B5-3CFA347F54D4_zpssfln7fzl.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/B93A0436-0DC9-4DCC-9280-DD6779788B76_zpsnvbqouza.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/B93A0436-0DC9-4DCC-9280-DD6779788B76_zpsnvbqouza.jpg.html)
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My i ask what glue you used to glue the palisade ?
Wooden glue or other type?
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I ended up just using wood glue. I had planned on using hot glue but it ended up to difficult/fiddely to place the palisades whilst the glue was still hot.
So in the end I made a small groove with my styrofoam cutter filled it with wood glue and placed the timbers in there.
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Thank you for the info. :)
My only doubt is if stays strong enough with the wood glue.
I have a small tower and pailsade to make and i will try that way.
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I like the way that Motte and Bailey is shaping up! 8)
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I have finished up the Bailey.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/8D9DCA7B-85A4-4D69-9329-A0714CE821AF_zpsgecdpqzk.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/8D9DCA7B-85A4-4D69-9329-A0714CE821AF_zpsgecdpqzk.jpg.html)
It is made to fit some boards made by my partner in crime Erik. I don't think I nailed the colors but it will do.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/13D01CB0-0E11-4863-A473-49D8E0AA16D7_zpsbscevvey.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/13D01CB0-0E11-4863-A473-49D8E0AA16D7_zpsbscevvey.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/36F8A9BB-B5A3-4403-A687-DED695F154A6_zpspclnkr7j.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/36F8A9BB-B5A3-4403-A687-DED695F154A6_zpspclnkr7j.jpg.html)
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Lovely work on that palisade :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Yup. That palisade its great. :-* :-*
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And now the Motte is also finished.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/7290DB90-4D45-4672-B993-583E7BF3113E_zpsmhgfmak5.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/7290DB90-4D45-4672-B993-583E7BF3113E_zpsmhgfmak5.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/3D6E70FF-96CB-47E9-AB5E-2220CF6C9D22_zpslkeynzln.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/3D6E70FF-96CB-47E9-AB5E-2220CF6C9D22_zpslkeynzln.jpg.html)
I could not wait to populate it.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/D4E9169A-9944-439B-9E93-2F283B8416E2_zpsbkgkp5qw.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/D4E9169A-9944-439B-9E93-2F283B8416E2_zpsbkgkp5qw.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/080A2DBE-DD6E-4713-A409-5E221CEDE7F9_zpsr9aezgqc.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/080A2DBE-DD6E-4713-A409-5E221CEDE7F9_zpsr9aezgqc.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/C9C47E53-12F7-4856-B65A-69C425D580A9_zpskjgtum9h.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/C9C47E53-12F7-4856-B65A-69C425D580A9_zpskjgtum9h.jpg.html)
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/3ED116E4-1AF5-49FF-99C9-7DAF84EDBE1A_zpslphvyjcs.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/3ED116E4-1AF5-49FF-99C9-7DAF84EDBE1A_zpslphvyjcs.jpg.html)
This is actually my first time building large scale scenery. And I am quite happy with my results. Now I just need to find a place to put it.
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Super cool result my good doctor. Can we please give it a spin for our next game? I am sure CwC can wait. If we combine our medieval models it should be enough for a Lions Rampant game while we build our forces.
Cheers
Erik
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Superb work. :-* :-*
Very inspirational.
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Excellent looking motte and bailey castle. The rock outcrops are a nice touch.
Very impressed you have so much storage space lol
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Thanks lads.
I don't really have storage place for something of this size. But when starting this build I figured it would be future me's problem. I have sorted a temporary storage. And I have a cunning plan for a more permanent solution. But it requires some building and perhaps worst of all some cleaning up in the zombie workshop.
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that looks amazing
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After having the Motte and Bailey castle finished Erik and I had to take it for a test drive. So we quickly cobbled a game together Erik took control of his Danish crusaders and I my Baltic bagans. We played Lions Rampant with 24 point for the danish defenders and 36 points for the Baltic attackers.
Overview of the table. Castle by me the rest of the boards are by Erik.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/51CEC51B-D253-48CD-AEF1-AC6C0CB6BDEE_zpsidxzu01a.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/51CEC51B-D253-48CD-AEF1-AC6C0CB6BDEE_zpsidxzu01a.jpg.html)
The pagans advance. Their archers take up position behind a low wall and start taking shots at any defender who pokes his head up.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/BCF827FF-B943-46EA-9261-4EA908852042_zps9aw7y5pt.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/BCF827FF-B943-46EA-9261-4EA908852042_zps9aw7y5pt.jpg.html)
The defenders on the Motte shoot back and start to take a heavy toll on the attackers.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/AB21BE43-4223-4266-AB77-AE1C4B155120_zpsefdrigwc.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/AB21BE43-4223-4266-AB77-AE1C4B155120_zpsefdrigwc.jpg.html)
The pagans brave the hail of arrows from the castle and continiue their advance.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/AFB8E080-FC04-4546-9C37-415A7A838ED2_zpsj67yz97k.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/AFB8E080-FC04-4546-9C37-415A7A838ED2_zpsj67yz97k.jpg.html)
The first unit to reach the Baileys walls are driven back and take heavy casualties.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/CEE99B15-6D19-4683-B39C-0DF392461BFC_zpspepctbpz.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/CEE99B15-6D19-4683-B39C-0DF392461BFC_zpspepctbpz.jpg.html)
But the rest of the pagan army is stedily advancing whilst returning enough fire to begin to do some damage to the Danish crusaders.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/E3B2232F-C2F7-4510-A961-1B2ED30B0CFE_zps9rnjyk56.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/E3B2232F-C2F7-4510-A961-1B2ED30B0CFE_zps9rnjyk56.jpg.html)
While the Pagan arrows are taking their toll on the Danish Crusaders they still hold the walls fiercly and repel another pagan assault.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/83AEE193-147F-4EF7-AE77-A40ACBDFC261_zpsewjyfbhx.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/83AEE193-147F-4EF7-AE77-A40ACBDFC261_zpsewjyfbhx.jpg.html)
The pagan general assaults the gates to try and get in that way as the walls are to well defended.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/3C293594-8CFF-411F-82CB-CC52C96282D7_zps4ywhtrmv.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/3C293594-8CFF-411F-82CB-CC52C96282D7_zps4ywhtrmv.jpg.html)
As the pagans rush through the destroyed gate the last defenders flee to make a last stand in the Motte.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/40A5472D-0D91-4A92-8D0C-BB666D0D4508_zpsojfvqbxr.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/40A5472D-0D91-4A92-8D0C-BB666D0D4508_zpsojfvqbxr.jpg.html)
The pagan general gripped by bloodlust charges the Danish hedgehog on the Motte and is brutally cut down.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/4C8ACA60-5AE1-4961-9C7B-E7E2223248F4_zpsxuamn7yl.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/4C8ACA60-5AE1-4961-9C7B-E7E2223248F4_zpsxuamn7yl.jpg.html)
The Danes choose to make a counterassault. But run into a deadly crossfire on the Motte Bridge.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/16CA991D-F839-4200-A5A1-EFAAF7C6F9D9_zps3rlosvnn.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/16CA991D-F839-4200-A5A1-EFAAF7C6F9D9_zps3rlosvnn.jpg.html)
And are cut down to a man in a hail of arrows.
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/Fredejensen/A2D129A1-3BF0-4760-BCE3-CC262D5D9CB3_zpszcnexpxq.jpg) (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Fredejensen/media/A2D129A1-3BF0-4760-BCE3-CC262D5D9CB3_zpszcnexpxq.jpg.html)
The gratuitous crotch shots of Erik are free of charge.... :D
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Nice AAR and what great terrain and miniatures we have ;).
Next time we try it out with my scenario.
And thank you for the completely inappropriate comment about my crotch >:D.
Cheers
Erik
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Lovely array of figures and scenery. :-* :-*
Keep it coming.
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Nice to see your work in "action". Nice report too!
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Splendid Motte and Bailey Frede 8)
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This is gorgeous indeed
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Very nice. Thanks for the eye candy...
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Great battle report.
Love what you have done in the neighborhood. lol
Up graded the castle. Very well done. :-*
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I am letting this thread die as it has been screwed over by Photobucket. I am starting a new one here http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=102240.0