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Gents,
I've popped up a few pics and thoughts on getting together forces for depicting action set in the North American conflict, King Philip's War, 1675. This conflict is quite interesting in that it saw a changing of technology and tactics between the British colonist forces and the Native Indian tribes, who were generally better armed and more skilful in fighting.
It provides something of a ‘balance’ between forces and has unique aspects of its own making it different from the more popular French and Indian War conflict 80 years later.
Included are some thoughts on gathering forces and snaps of my Woodland Indians.
Cheers
Happy Wanderer
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Those Indians are very nice.
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Very nice! :) Great read on your blog too, very interesting.
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Very nice work 8)
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Always a fan of the French and Indian War, I am really getting enthused about this earlier, offshoot conflict.
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Great minds think alike! My friend has begun work on a Scenario/Sourcebook on King Philips War for our Song of Drums and Tomahawks rules! Oh, and awesome looking Indians!!
Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
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Very nice!!! :)
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Interesting news, Mike. Um, how long is it going to take to reload a matchlock in SODTKPW?
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That's good new Mike ;) ;)
Looking forward to that.
In a follow up to my original post I have uploaded part II of my look at King Philip's War. Hope you guys can pop over and maybe gleam something useful.
Regards
Happy W
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I would be tempted to use Warfare Miniatures generic foot armed with flintlocks. They have a casual irregular look, and if painted right could be used as Jacobites of James II. They may be intended for the 1680-90's, but I don't think they would be out of place in the 1670's.
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I did look at those and some of the sculpts look really nice and suitable as you say...the firelock ones are better than the apostle musketeers...clearly a different sculptor.
How do those firelock figures size up with others such as Front Rank, Redoubt, Warlord, etc???
HW
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Front Rank is much larger than Warfare.
Warfare is probably closer to Perry and (I assume) Brigade Games.
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In a follow up to my original post I have uploaded part II of my look at King Philip's War. Hope you guys can pop over and maybe gleam something useful.
I just read that post on your blog -- great, detailed info! I sent it on to Mike Stelzer, who will be the one writing that scenario/sourcebook.
Zippy, we're going to keep it at the same two actions in the same turn to reload, but with the Slow Reload special rule. What that means is that a figure cannot reload and fire (or fire and reload) in the same turn -- no matter how many actions he receives from his roll. It may not seem like a big difference, but most games will feature ALL figures with matchlocks or all figures with flintlocks. There will not be too many that feature differing weapons. In those cases, perhaps a scenario-specific rule is a better reflection than a rules mechanic change for the whole set?
Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
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@Mike
Thanks 👌
@ Delbruck
I take it that the 3rd figure from the left is Front Rank and the 1st and 2nd are Warfare Miniatures? If so, WM are much smaller than I thought. I'm pretty sure they won't blend in with the larger Redoubt Indians.
Thanks for the photo. 👌
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From left to right the figures are Dixon, Warfare, and Front Rank.
Yes, Redoubt and FR are much larger than Warfare.
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Ok,
No more ifs, buts and maybes.
Here are the comparison shots.
The unpainted figures are the Brigade Games minis. The others are shown - pics speak for themselves a bit.
The figures are clearly smaller. They do have a 'bulk' but I'm not sure they will work with the much larger figures from Redoubt Miniatures and to a degree Front Rank....mmm.
FYI
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Excellent comparison and you saved me some money as I was about to purchase some Redoubt ECW civilians to go with my KPW Brigade Games/Perry/Crusader/Warlord units.
Ordered some more BG KPW figures including the Praying Indians to bulk out my settlers as they took a hammering in the last game trying to storm an Indian village.
Your excellent research on this period has prompted me to consider expanding my forces even farther and another visit to BG at Historicon for the Dragoons is on the shopping list.
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Beautiful terrain there - very evocative and quite realistic looking.
I'm glad to see you expanding your forces - you can never have too many Indian allies when you are the colonists!
;) ;)
I've added the next post in this short series.
This post discusses weapons used by the protagonists of King Philip's War. Please pop over if you feel so inclined.
Cheers
Happy Wanderer
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Great post :-*, You've inspired me to write army lists for Sharp Practice :).
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A good read, thank you!
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Wow! Amazing painting chaps. :)
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That village is spectacular! :o Awesome construction...
Very useful comparison shot, too. We need more people taking the time to do what you did!
Mike Demana
www.firstcommandwargames.com
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/
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HW
As you know , I bought some KPW figures from Brigade.
They are quite small, maybe they fit with Conquest size figs ,not even sure about that ... but certainly not with my the larger Front Rank Or Redoubt FIW at all..
I am very disappointed.
Cheers
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Excellent article 8)
I will be remaking my village palisade as I am sure I can do a better job 2nd time around plus I will make it more of an oval than a circle as on a 5ft wide table it does allow much woodland to placed along the table edges.
I added 'wrapped' bows (just a shaped roll of greenputty) and quivers (from Front Rank medieval range) to some of my Indians to add variety.
The BG KPW figures fit well with Foundry, Perry, Crusader and Warlord, plus they look like they will fit work Warfare and Bicorne figures.
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@ Mindenbrush
;) ;)
Gents,
Here is my last post in this short series on King Philip’s War detailing tactical aspects of conflict and the adaptation of such for use with Muskets & Tomahawks and Pikeman’s Lament rules.
Lots of discussion on game play, set up and how to organise force for play and special rules to go with them.
Hope you pop on over and pick up a few ideas.
Cheers
Happy Wanderer
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Great series! These articles pretty much single-handedly got me interested in this conflict. (Although it didn't hurt that I already had a lot of the figures anyway.)
Edit: Ignore the comment re M&T. Didn't realize you had woven those rules into the discussion of troop types, etc.
Presumably the Musket and Tomahawks lists will be next? That's the ruleset I'd be most likely to use...
Cheers and thanks for all the groundwork!
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Excellent, I wonder if I could take these back 100 years or so and use them for Brazil :P
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@axabrax
;) ;)
The M&T lists are a link in the post...just above the Pikeman's Lament list...good to go :P
Brazil?
I'm sure they could be taken back no problem. IMHO each period needs a close look to see what's important. Then adjustments can be made. M&T has a number of levers you can pull to get the right game effect for specific periods...very flexible.
Happy W
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A website I found on Benjamin Church's Rangers
http://www.snowshoemen.com/churchscompany